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beginning of this conflict. >> specifically about what to do in this case with where palestinian civilians might be able to go in rafah. >> we aren't involved in drafting their plan for them. we have committed to them our concerns about what that plan ought to be able to account for, yes. >> when it comes to this credible plan to protect civilians, what happens if israel does not provide this plan and moves into rafah anyway? >> i won't get into it. >> bill: after the rescue of the two israelis from captivity there in gaza the other day a big question about the rest of the hostages and you heard what he said. we have no information to suggest that the americans held there are not alive. >> dana: all right. harris faulkner will take you through the next hour. here she is. >> harris: a new surreal moment from the president of the united states. who is doing this man's strategy? president biden joking about his age and memory insisting, in
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fact, he does remember things after that scathing doj report casts so much doubt. he didn't get indicted because the question was could a jury even go anywhere with him because he has no memory. now he says he does have memory. will they indict him? many democrats are defending the president nonetheless. but some are voicing some serious doubts about him. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." 81 years old, commander-in-chief. you hear me say it age is not the matter here. acuity and fitness for the job, judgment and memory are important. he lashed out at special counsel robert hur for describing him as a well meaning elderly man with a poor memory. yesterday he was laughing about it. >> president biden: we're promoting clean industry and energy in the future made in america. what i didn't realize and i know i don't look like it but i've been around a while.
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[laughter] i do remember that. [laughter] [applause] >> harris: he just made this woman's job harder. the white house press secretary live now. >> he will defend himself and to the american people and make that very, very clear. so we believe, he believes he did the right thing and we'll continue to speak on this in a very loud and clear way. but anything specific related to next steps and what happens after last week certainly the white house counsel's office can answer that more specifically >> i want to circle back to a question about president biden sending 27,000 palestinians died in gaza. that appeared to be numbers from the gaza health ministry. he said last fall he had no confidence in those figures because of the health ministry's ties to hamas. does president biden and the
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white house -- >> harris: we'll continue to monitor this. there are a lot of important topics. i wanted to finish the thought on this. she did. karine jean-pierre, the white house press secretary was specifically talking about that scathing robert hur report on the president having poor memory, essentially, you know, nice man, can't indict him, that sort of thing. many americans are not laughing about this as the president was. fellow democrats say they are not amused. >> the question is, is he in a position to serve until january of 2029? i know the country knows the answer. i know those in congress don't want to acknowledge the truth. i think the special counsel's report only validated what the whole country knows. >> he is old. 81 years old. i know 81-year-old people in good shape and i know 81-year-olds not in great shape. he is old and no question about it. >> harris: the "wall street
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journal" columnist wrote this. the free world's leader is a fragile ornament wrapped in cotton protected by aides from falling. sheltered by staff and in biden's case, by much of the media from accountability, cocooned from the risk of doing or saying anything i can't control. it amounts to a fraud on the american public but it is inescapable as a feature of reality denial that once you've started, you can't stop. despite poll after poll showing americans are worried about the president's abilities, the white house says no need to check him out. >> does the white house think that the idea of the president taking a cognition test, a cognitive test as a part of this physical is a legitimate idea? >> i will say what dr. o'connor, what he said to me about a year ago when the report came out last year, obviously on his
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physical. the president proves every day how he operates. how he thinks. to speak to her report quickly. special counsel hur as far as i remember is a republican, a prosecutor. he is not a medical doctor. >> harris: power panel. guy benson and jose to debate it all. sit by for the great debate. first peter doocy at the white house. we were just watching the white house press secretary and we're still monitoring that news conference. >> and harris, even though president biden is doing less and less on camera, including today. nothing on camera. than he was in the earliest days of his administrations officials here are trying to tell us he is doing a lot more than people who are a lot younger. >> president biden does more in one hour than most people do in a day.
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his age with experience and expertise is an incredible asset and he proves it every day. that's what we believe. >> 86% of adults don't believe it according to an abc poll that asks simply is president biden too old to serve another term? >> he is not cognitively fit to be our present. i have been around him for eight years in the white house in and around the oval office and so i have seen a dramatic change in him. if you look at the time when he was vice president and compare it to now it's amazing how much he has deteriorated. >> the democratic cavalry is coming and hoping to put the gaffes in pros peabody. >> it's wrong. >> age is objective. he is younger than i many. what do i have to say about his age. he is again knowledgeable, wise.
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>> at the heart of these new concerns about president biden's acuity and memory are the transcripts of that october interview with the special counsel. karine jean-pierre was just asked as we were coming to air whether or not the white house would support releasing those transcripts. if he is not having these issues as they say, put it out. let people decide for themselves. she said there is a process that they are going through and that they are looking into it. harris. >> harris: you know what you do when you want to do a thing? you do it. you don't say you'll do it. you just do it. we'll see what they do. we've seen what he does many times. the president, this is just yesterday. looking so confused. apparently not really knowing where to go and stand. he is looking at the guest. dude, where did you go? that's not where you should be. even the guest knows from jordan. at the event yesterday while hosting jordan's king. that's him standing there wondering what is this guy
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behind me doing? guy benson, fox news contributor, host of the guy benson show and jose, former press secretary for the dnc. i come to you first. i put this on his team. if you are going to sell a product, you have to know where to put it on the shelf and whether or not it needs a little extra care in terms of getting somebody to buy the truth about it. what is going on with his team? >> look, i think first and foremost we have to recognize biden is old. i get it. let's get over the age issue for a second. they forget things. we know that. that's not news. trump has forgotten things all the time. at the end of the day. if the polls are true, if biden's cognitive ability is declining, guess what? the republican nominee will wind by a landslide in november.
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it should be good news for republicans. i don't believe any of it. i think biden will win re-election. not about his team. this is about democracy. let people choose. the voters will decide in november. >> harris: based on what you've seen. i heard the one shot you took at trump but basically said he could beat him. all the things we've seen are true. no one is making this up. just watch him. guy, your take. >> two days ago we all watched the super bowl. i seem to recall you were very pleased with the outcome of the game. the highest rated, most watched television event in america in the history of television. the white house and president's team that you were just asking about made a decision before that that they were not going to sit down for the traditional presidential interview with tens of millions of eyeballs watching. now, the report came out on thursday from the special counsel. we got that interesting performance from the president
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later that evening. i am willing to bet that c brick s news had the resources to scramble. if the house said we need this president to prove what he can do of course. we need to put this president out there too prove not what we're saying about him but to prove how he can perform in a sustained sit-down scent. they didn't change their mind. i think it speaks volumes. >> harris: go chiefs. for a later time. president biden facing major age and fitness questions, what we've been talking about. jose, when you started with he is old, i nearly fell off my chair. because i don't think it's about age. i think it is about acuity and fitness for the job. always looking for the readiness factor. it is not evident in him right now. vice president kamala harris is insisting i'm ready to serve. no question about that adding that everybody who sees her on the job walks away fully aware
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of her capacity to lead. that was in an interview with the "wall street journal" before the robert hur report was released. a lot of confidence from the vice president. a recent nbc poll shows only 28% of voters, though, have a positive view of her. reverse order, guy. >> i'm not sure what she is supposed to say. her approval ratings are terrible. people don't have confidence in her. that's part of the reason why democrats are white knuckling this thing and sticking with joe biden because there isn't a viable alternative in which they have broad confidence. that's part of the story. by the way, harris, going back to kjp and clip you referenced where she said the president does more in one hour than most people do in a day. that is shades of what she said a few months ago. oh i can barely keep up with him here. it is obviously untrue. they have to at least attempt better spin than that. >> harris: can i ask my team do we have the part when she was
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asked about his schedule yesterday? she was asked about his scheduled and said she didn't have anything to share for today, tomorrow and the next day. so from tuesday to thursday of this week. maybe that will come out. i don't know. if she had it i'm sure she would have started with it today. space, broadband, vaccines. you saw the list of things on the vice president's plate. is she the backup plan or maybe gavin newsom? jose. >> well, let me tell you something there is no backup plan. only one plan, joe biden. you said something important, which is readiness. we don't care about age, we care about readiness. i actually think the american people care about inflation going down, the economy going up. they will judge this president on the economy and the economy is doing better each and every day. >> harris: the prices of things are still among the highest that we've paid you have aggregate the dollar value across time and energy and the way that
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inflation going is now ticked up above 3%. we're going in the wrong direction. things are getting higher. so you can make that argument but people don't feel what you are saying. i didn't say i didn't care about age. i said i don't think that's specific for this president. we have a lot of war going on in the world. >> dana: he is ready every single day. >> harris: he lost his secretary of defense for three days. i have to let you go. thank you, gentlemen. former president trump calling on the u.s. supreme court to get involved. he wants immunity in his federal election case. what the justices may do and what it means for the looming presidential election. plus fulton county, georgia d.a. fani willis, the one with the lover she hired. she may have to answer a judge's pointed questions about her love life. her answers could determine whether she gets to try trump's election case or gets kicked off
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>> harris: she does not want to be there but there is another hearing on thursday in the misconduct investigation into fulton county district attorney fani willis. willis and her lover, i have to say that. because it's true. who she hired the lead the trump election meddling case could be forced to testify. here is the judge. >> because i think it's possible that the facts alleged by the defendant could result in disqualification, i think a hearing must occur to establish the record on those core allegations. >> harris: whether the judge
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throws willis and nathan wade off the case could hinge on exactly when their affair started. there are reports former president trump may attend thursday's proceedings. jonathan turley, fox news contributor, george washington university law professor and constitutional attorney. great to see you today. jonathan, just first of all this push for her not to be in court. what do you make of it? >> well, the judge did the correct thing. enough evidence here he needs to establish a record in order to rule on this. it doesn't mean that even if any conflict existed it would derail the case but could derail her. the most serious aspect of these allegations is that they may have filed a false affidavit and false papers with the court. the key to their arguments before the court was that our relationship began in 2022. that brought out a former
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attorney who represented nathan wade and his former partner who said that is just not true. there are witnesses that can show their relationship preceded his hiring. that's very serious. keep in mind that willis and wade are prosecuting people in this case for making false statements to courts. so this is becoming increasingly bizarre. >> harris: i get the connection there. the question has been why does it matter when it started? it matters if it started before they said it did on key paperwork to the court an affidavit. you can't go after somebody for a crime you just committed. now i get it. >> well, i think the question for the court is did they act dishonestly with the court. >> harris: did he lie on the paperwork? >> right. and also is there evidence that you could have the filtering of money that she could give money to wade who gave it back to her. that will be more difficult to
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show but their response to the scandal is as troubling as the scandal itself. they have put themselves ahead of their case and ahead of their office. they should step aside because they are undermining their office. >> harris: quickly, i pointed this out yesterday. if they had this longer-term love affair, that also opens up potentially for lawsuits for other people who worked around them because not everybody was rolling with the boss as nathan wade was. that really complicates matters in who from the office you can put on the case to replace willis and nathan. does that entirety put this case in jeopardy? >> well, it's always difficult when you remove the top prosecutors. but keep the office in play. she still remains the head of that office. so it's hard to wall them off from the case. i think that's going to be the default for the court rather than say the entire office is
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disqualified. keep in mind this is what willis was talking about when she promised she wouldn't date anyone that she was supervising or hiring. >> harris: wow, love is love. if it was love. let's move on, please. the trump legal team is asking the u.s. supreme court to block a recent ruling that denied him blanket immunity for alleged crimes committed as president. this could delay his trial on charges of plotting to overturn the 2020 election. his attorneys are arguing an absence of criminal immunity for official acts prevents the president to function properly at the height of the election season will radically disrupt his ability to campaign against president biden. which appears to be the whole point of the special counsel's persistent demands for expedition. that is the quote and the supreme court has given special counsel jack smith one week to
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respond. remember, he tried to get the supreme court to take up the immunity question late last year. he said only the justices could fully settle it. jonathan. >> well, the court, of course, has already rejected this urgency special counsel smith wants. the question here is whether the panel went too far and cut off trump's ability to seek an interim appeal. an in bank appeal from the full court. they basically penalized him. if he tries to do that they'll send the mandate back to the trial court. what that means is the trial court could start pre-trial proceedings again before anyone reviews this. i think trump has a good argument procedurally. i think it is unfair he should not be given that same opportunity. where he will have trouble is on the immunity claim. it is very sweeping and i expect there will be justices including some on the right skeptical of
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those claims. >> harris: what does that mean ultimately for trump? >> well, there are two aspects in play here. one is the merits where i think it favors jack smith with the supreme court. the other is schedule. smith is really -- sort of unyielding in trying to get this thing tried to get trump convicted before the election. once you are past the summer you will be running out of runway. the department of justice does not like trials right before an election. >> harris: all right. jonathan turley, great to have you with the possibility that the former president would show up in court on thursday, i would imagine we'll see quite a bit of you. appreciate your expertise. >> thank you, harris. >> harris: house republicans demanding special counsel's transcribed interview with president biden. you heard peter doocy talking about that. the press secretary says it's in process whether or not they would do that. the transcript where he could
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not remember when his son, beau, died and there are a lot of points talking about china and ukraine and how it could all play into republicans' impeachment plans. and house republicans say we've got our own problems to focus on. >> do i want to help ukraine? do i think it's vital for the world's interest? absolutely. the same with israel. the thing is we have to protect our southern border first. >> harris: the senate is ready to give big money to other countries as our u.s. border and the border biden crisis are wide open and on fire. when it comes to border chaos, a wild report on the white house staff absolutely going at each other over this issue. we'll break it down with congressman chip roy next.
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the people outside. axios is reporting infighting inside the white house over biden's border crisis. it says former top aide susan rice called health and human services secretary an idiot. and other words we would rather not say. axios also reports president biden exploded in rage at his staff on air force one. homeland security secretary mayorkas disagreed with some of biden's policies while vice president kamala harris made it very clear her only focus was on the root causes of migration. one former senior administration official went after the vice president with when this. she has been, at best, ineffective. at worst sporadically engaged and not it was her responsibility. an opportunity for her and she didn't fill the breach. so finally someone sees what the nation did on that. the "new york post" sums it up in one word, meltdown.
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wow. early this morning the senate passed a massive $95 billion aid package for ukraine and israel. missing from the bill, border security funding. and its prospects in the house are uncertain. the white house says this. >> speaker johnson said the package's failure to address u.s. border security makes it a non-starter. johnson helped torpedo an earlier version of the legislation that includes sweeping border security measures and other reforms. it is very confusing from what's coming from the speaker, very confusing. we should not be playing politics with our national security. >> harris: fox news senior correspondent chad pergram is on capitol hill. interesting for her to call it confusing. it is. the border bill had 60 plus million for ukraine and -- billion and 20 billion for the border in its original form. that wasn't going to work anyway. >> that's right.
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the lack of a robust border package infuriated many conservatives even those republicans torched a bipartisan plan to fix the border. they voted -- most republicans voted no. conservatives are furious at the senate gop leadership. >> it says they prioritized ukraine over the southern border. they prioritized another country over defending our country and a terrible thing. they are not in sync at all with the republican base. >> 22 senate republicans voted in favor of the bill. many on the right say the senate missed an opportunity to address the border instead of helping ukraine. >> china and russia, if we want them to fear us we need to rebuild our own country. we need to rebuilt a strong europe and a strong america. we need to rebuild a civilization that can support conflicts instead of just run
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away from them. >> 70 yays is a robust vote in the senate. it could influence the house. >> the responsibility now falls on speaker johnson and house republicans to approve this bill swiftly. and i call on speaker johnson to rise to the occasion to do the right thing, bring this bill to the floor. >> house speaker mike johnson wanted the sen a at to deal with the border. it was silent about the most pressing issue in the country. >> harris: thank you very much. republican congressman chip roy of the great state of texas, member of budget, rules and judiciary committee is in "focus" now. first of all the bill had so many more billions of dollars, three times the amount for ukraine than what originally was supposed to go for border security. where are we now in terms of it reaching the house? >> first of all, i think i might
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submit a bill rename texas to ukraine and maybe this administration and senators will focus on securing the border in the united states. look, i've never seen the nursing home known as the united states senate work harder than when it comes to spending the america people's money for foreign wars. that's what's going on here. by the way, is there anything more cynical than having republicans sitting around defending their votes to send $60 billion to ukraine and saying it will help our defense industrial base and help american businesses? since when do we have economic development that is being driven by funding war overseas? that's what is happening in the u.s. senate. anybody that is sane and sees what's happening at the southern border would know that you cannot fund foreign wars while our border is wide open and exposed to criminal, lawlessness and terrorists coming across the border. we feel it in texas even though thanks to governor abbott, most of the numbers are heading to
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arizona and california. but this is an ongoing problem. you know 7,000 crossed the other day, 139 of them were chinese foreign nationals. that's where the priority of the american people is and my priority and where the priority is for speaker mike johnson. he with as clear yesterday this a bomb nation of a bill that came out of the senate those 22 republicans should not have voted for, that bill will be dead when it comes to the house. >> harris: quickly, you know, has there been a push to sit down with president biden and talk to him about flipping the switch and i know he doesn't want to hear trump policies. maybe you could name them something else. little candies that work well. i don't know. but what about that? waiting for all of this sausage to be made is leaving that border open longer than it needs to be and he could take action. >> he could take action right now. he certainly could limit the flow enormously. it is not a quick fix that the executive can wave a wand and take care of it immediately.
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we need to pass laws to give him tools or force him to the table and give a future president trump tools. the bottom line is they don't have any interest in sitting down at the table. their interest is the chaos created by wide open borders. it is purposeful and designed to flood the zone to remake america. not just political. they want to remake america. they want to end western civilization and flood the zone with people from all over the world at a time when we have 50 million people foreign born in the united states. they are doing this for a reason. it is crass frankly. my democratic colleagues are trying to force their will and their beliefs on everybody around the world including, for example, countries in africa who dare to say marriage between one man and one woman. these democrats are radicals. want to remake our country and doing it at the southern border. republicans need to lock arms and stand up and defend the border instead of preaching about the border and campaigning on it. they need to stand up and do something about it. the 22 republicans who voted for the bad bill should be ashamed
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of doing this to the american people. perpetuating open borders while funding the border security of ukraine, taiwan and israel. >> harris: the impeachment of the man whose responsibility it was to implement the laws on the books with immigration, republicans now are set to tee up a second vote now tonight aiming to impeach secretary mayorkas. one week ago, they first voted narrowly and that failed. this time they will have an additional vote with house majority leader steve scalise back from cancer treatment. thank the good lord. former affairs committee chair mike mccaul from texas was on with me yesterday. >> harris: why can't you fire this man? why didn't the republicans get it done? >> we're going to on tuesday. steve scalise is coming back. it will be a floor manager in the trial. this man is the architect of destruction and he has caused the chaos knowingly not --
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really by design rick not by accident. >> harris: it is tuesday and now it's tuesday night. tell me about this evening. >> number one we have to get everybody into town. we have the storm blowing up in the northeast and make sure somebody comes to town to have the 216 votes needed to get that done. god bless scalise. i fought cancer and we're praying for him. i'm glad he will stand up and knows what we need to do. not just political. this is important. mayorkas needs to be held accountable. he deserves to be the second cabinet secretary impeached because he has been endangering the american people while fragrantly violating his oath to defend the laws of the united states. we'll get those votes whether it's tonight or tomorrow we'll get the votes. he needs to be impeached. we will see what happens. i want to give a shout out to my great team. the ones that put forward the first articulation of the reasons to impeach alejandro mayorkas in 2021 almost three years ago.
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we made the case then. we knew it a mere nine months into this administration and making the case every since. i hope impeachment managers will do the job. >> harris: we have. and that bit you shared about your health, god bless you, too, i'm glad you are doing well. we'll talk to you on the flip side of a nighttime impeachment vote on the secretary of homeland security. thank you very much. >> harris: tony bobulinski testified on capitol hill this morning. it is part of house republicans' impeachment investigation into the president of the united states. and his involvement and his son's foreign business dealings. why some critics and observers are saying bobulinski is the most dangerous witness for president biden. ben domenech in "focus" next.
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schools last night and some areas have no electricity at this hour. driving and airline travel a mess. more than 40 million people under winter weather alerts this morning from west virginia to massachusetts and some parts of pennsylvania and new york have already seen more than a foot of snow. look at the screen. fox weather's nichole valdez are here. this is remarkable. been a long time. >> harris, hi. it has been a while since we've seen a scene like this in central park. we're under a winter storm warning. the first one issued for the big apple in more than two years. officially the biggest snowstorm we've seen since january of 2022. the heavy, wet snow that is creating the white-out conditions as strong winds are blowing all of it around. not only what's falling but already bit up on some of the trees and buildings in central
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park. there is a lot of people trying to take advantage of this. a lot of kids running around with tubes and sleds hoping to make action happen on some of the hills in central park. you are right. new york schools yesterday mayor eric adams announced they will move to online learning. some issues already reported there as some log-in issues with ibm have already been making that a little more complicated than some had thought. last winter was the least snowyest for new york city. only two inches recorded there. significant snow reports from pennsylvania and new jersey as well. good news is a lot of things are still moving. businesses and poll sites including queens and the bronx will stay open today. the snow totals every six hours or so. hopefully here very soon we'll give you an idea how much snow
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is in central park. >> harris: seeing ay -- tony bobulinski is on capitol hill right now, a former business partner with hunter biden. oversight committee chairman james comer with insight on what bobulinski may know. >> one of the things that tony bobulinski has said in interviews in the past is the fact that joe biden was the big guy. bobulinski was privileged to a lot of information about just exactly what the bidens were going to do with china. i think it's important for the american people to know exactly what cefc was, who actually owned cefc and what role joe biden played in cefc. i think tony bobulinski has those answers. >> harris: a new op-ed is warning the biden family,
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bobulinski is the most deadly impeachment witness. about a month ago you may recall hunter biden's business partner walker said joe biden met with the head of the chinese firm his son was making deals with in 2017. the president said repeatedly he didn't have anything to do with anybody with his son's business deals. democratic house staffers in a memo writes. republicans have sacrificed the privacy and safety of these individuals in the name of digging up dirt on the biden family. an effort which has spectacularly failed. ben domenech, spectator editor at large. would you describe it as a failure what republicans are doing and digging up truths and unearthing meetings that the president said he never had? >> this is as ridiculous as when they tell us that we see the president and we can tell that
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he is completely on top of everything and he is the the hardest working guy who has ever held the job. it is laughable on its face, harris. i think it's important to understand what the republicans are trying to do with this series of interviews they are conducting. it is something that frankly democrats did not do when it came to building a case under their impeachments. they are trying to lay out all the different facts according to the witnesses who are -- in many cases as close to the family as you can possibly get. very well aware of the different meetings, the different phone calls, etc. , that happened between joe biden and a number of figures who, as you noted, have attachments with china that are frankly eyebrow raising. i think we'll see what comes out of these conversations going on today on capitol hill and i think that will eventually be laid in front of the american people for them to judge for
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themselves. >> harris: you are right. when we look at the president we see what we see. it's an awfully convenient setup that he has no memory. then you wouldn't have any memory about meeting people, you know, through business deals with china and russia and ukraine. you wouldn't remember any of that. i just wonder what the fine line is on the president's memory. he says he remembers the facts and the robert hur investigation. yet they didn't indict because they weren't sure that a jury could get through him not remembering anything. i don't know. it seems too convenient. >> it seems very, very convenient, harris. i don't think that we should pause in questioning that. have any sort of misgivings about questioning it. it certainly seems to play to his advantage. >> harris: either way the american public doesn't win whether we have a president not being honest about his memory or really can't remember anything at all. inflation still is dogging the biden administration. most of all american families, of course. new data shows prices rose more
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than expected last month, up by more than 3% from a year ago. food prices up by 2 1/2% overall in the past year, even more than that for staples like meat, sugar and bread. the news is affecting the dow jones down more than 400 points on the news after red hot days recently. the stubborn inflation also means we won't see relief from high interest rates any time soon. the white house is commenting just this hour. >> we've been very clear here that prices are still too high. that is something that we've done whether junk fees, healthcare, whether it's inflation reduction act. there is more work to be done. this is an economy in a much different place than it was a year ago or three years ago. >> harris: actually for the prices that's not true because prices don't come down when inflation abates a bit. now you see it going back up.
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that's a nightmare scenario. >> look, i think the white house sounds divorced from reality on so many different things. nowhere more than this. they simply deny the reality that the american family experiences on a daily basis when they see the prices of the goods that they purchase regularly, especially for families, working families across the country. it is an insult to them to claim they are not seeing that type of impact on their pocket books. i would particularly point out to you, harris, that the cost of electricity has gone up exorbitantly. something you can't get away from. not like you can turn it off and function as a household. so when they are talking about these issues, they sound so dismissive and not doing any of the things that you would try to do to try to turn things around. instead they are just telling people you aren't actually seeing that thing that you're seeing, just like it is with the president himself. >> harris: you tipped us into a lane about not caring about the american people.
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the preaching about plugging in electrical everything. take away your gas stove. drive e.v.s that are highly priced and still want to drive up what fuels those things, electricity. by the way, the electricity has enough pressure on it already. most of it is fossil fuel generated. ten seconds. >> i just think this white house is really botching so many things at this moment including their handling of the spin around the president's age. i don't know how they can get worse but they need to turn things around if they will have a hope in november. >> harris: yeah. the country needs it, too. we want them to succeed if they can. ben, great to see you. thank you. "outnumbered" after the break. "outnumbered" after the break. nt brand. there's nothing better than a subway series footlong. except when you add on an all new footlong sidekick.
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