and personality, he is playing into kamala harris' hands. that is something he has to be aware of going forward. >> judge jeanine: i agree with that. >> look, when kamala and these other candidates campaigned in iowa, we were pulling up imagese they wore jeans and like iowa but not trump he wore his suit and his maga had peered so long he does aptly with that great sense of humor, he will prevail here. if he wanders down the other path, trouble lies ahead. a hjudge jeanine: he is naturae'l entertainer, donald trump.do >>na he is, he absolutely is. great to see you, judge your crispy when that is it for us tonight. i'm judge jeanine pirro and fori laura ingraham and make sure to catch me monday through friday on "the five." jesse watters takes it next. ♪ ♪ >> former president trump set to meet with the fbi to give

investigators his perspective on the assassination attempt as chilling new audio taken by one of the survivors appears to show a figure on the roof moments before shots fired. we are also hearing from the survivor of the first time in a fox news exclusive. plus 9/11 families devastated after others were given a clean deal, son of a 9/11 victim here to respond. former president trump being criticized for a pretty heated -- >> very nasty and i have answer the question. i have been the best president for the black population since abraham lincoln! >> todd: but why wasn't vice president harris at the convention of black journalists? we will tell you what her campaign is saying this morning. you are watching "fox & friends first" on a thursday morning, i am todd piro and carley shimkus is off today. let's get to brooke singman for

the latest on the assassination attempt investigation and that brand-new video, brooke. >> todd, good morning former president trump to that for a victim interview with the fbi today. the fbi said this is standard procedure consistent with any interview they would conduct for any victim of crime. meanwhile, shocking new video by fox news digital a figure moving on the roof as trump speaks on stage. officials believe the shooter thomas matthew crooks open fire just 3 minutes after this clip was taken. the footage is from 74-year-old james copenhaver, who was shot twice, once in the arm and once in the abdomen. the copenhaver family releasing a statement saying, "the copenhaver family would like to thank everyone for outpouring support for james/jim as he recovers from injuries. james would like to think the first responders, medical staff and he would like to express his thoughts and prayers for the other victims, their families, and for president trump. he prays for safe and speedy

recovery for them all." the victim's attorney spoke out on his behalf, listen. >> overall, he just wants people to understand how unnecessary it was, and that the political divide this country has become so great. people are literally willing to attend release for people exercising their first amendment rights and start firing bullets into crowds. definitely one of the worst things he's experienced as an american. and he wants people to understand it does not have to be like this. >> the fbi has contracted israeli firm to get through encryption on the shooter's devices. the same investigators get into crook's phones 24 hours after the assassination attempt, todd up here >> todd: we will get into that with chris swecker later in the show. another fox news alert, idf confirming just just moments ago that mohammed the top military

commander of hamas and so, so cold usama bin laden has been eliminated in the air strike mid-july and ordering an attack on israel over the death of a political leader, and supreme leader posting on x, following bitter tragic event which has taken place in the borders of islamic republic it is our duty to take revenge. rebeccah heinrichs, hoover institute senior fellow. rebecca, let's start with breaking news and what is the significance of the death of this man? >> look, the idf said three things must be accomplished before finishing in a soul, every single individual responsible for the planning of october 7th massacre. it said it would do that and clearly it is successful but it demonstrates israel can identify even in gaza where the leaders

are and with precision, take them out. so this is significant kill on the part of the idea and really important as they carry out the military campaign. >> todd: of course, iran vowing revenge and what does that threaten revenge look like? if iran ultimately successful in executing it? >> we don't know what the speed iran regime will do but very remarkable because it demonstrates the idf can reach out even end iran. israel's enemies are not safe anywhere including iran regime cannot provide protection of individuals and was there because of iran new present inauguration. so it shows the iran regime is not powerful enough to keep these individuals save. so now, we will wait and see how iran regime response but obviously israel is preparing for the worse even though iran regime retaliated last time

israel reached in and took out a terrorist inside lebanon that the regime really responded in a way that israel could deal with an intercept with their missile defense system and respond of their choosing. >> todd: does the u.s. need to be on guard for anything specifically in response to this attack by israel? >> well, the united states should always be on guard because the iran regime particularly views the united states and israel one of the same. we are the big state and israel is the little satan in their eyes so there is a lot of blust. part of what israel has done for the united states is to demonstrate iran regime is not as powerful as they thought they were. israel, small country as a mighty country, very powerful and isn't afraid of what the iran regime might do in retaliation as israel seeks to take out its enemies. the united states to take courage from israel and permit israel to respond in this way to provide diplomatic support that

israel needs and provide the military backing is ronnie's to permit israel to finally finish the job. >> todd: where is the white house and all of this, rebecca? here is john kirby with somewhat of an answer. listen. we don't want to see an escalation in everything we have been doing since 7th of october, manage that risk. those risks go up and down everyday. they are certainly up right now. it's not like we take a blind eye what iran is capable of doing initial what they were capable of doing and the regional. it's not like we demonstrate an unknown unwillingness to defend israel from threats in the region, including from iran if that happens. we maintain that capability and readiness to do so now. >> todd: rebecca, what message does milquetoast statement say to israel and iran? >> well, first of all, john kirby is doing it once again. he's talking about fear of escalation but escalation is a neutral term. what we don't want his iranians to escalate to win. what we do is israel to escalate

sufficiently and only to the necessary degree so it prevails. it wants the heat iran regime stop funding militant proxies that continue to attack israel. that is when the conflict will stop here and my hope is kirby will stop making equivalents between the two sides and back israel fully and listen we will do behind them until they do exactly what they say they will do which is take out the enemy. you see the chinese and russians making similar comments but taking the side of america's enemies i'm at the side of hamas, both side of iran regime and willing and trying to get inside the united states as a political election leading up to it and also trying to create a problem for the united states and israel. >> todd: this will lead to the question is a cease fire off the table in the coming weeks? i think we know the answer to that. it doesn't seem like it is. rebecca, we appreciate your time this morning, thank you. interest hours the democratic party democratic party will hold a virtual vote to officially select vice president kamala harris as its nominee for

president. delicates across the country will vote 9:00 a.m. eastern. that process ends monday night and no challengers have merged. sources close to say she has spoke with bp contenders and asked advisors who incite and final next week with a rally on tuesday in philadelphia where she is expected to announce her running mate. all right, now to this, we are talking to the son of 9/11 victim about the plea deal just struck with the alleged mastermind behind 9/11 and other terrorist suspects accused of planning that attack. that is next. >> they are cutting a sweetheart deal with 9/11 terrorists. we need a president who kills terrorists, not negotiates with them. ♪ ♪

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>> todd: we are back with a fox weather alert and right now 250,000 homes and businesses across nebraska, kansas, missouri rate without power after storms tore through the heartland. in omaha, 128,000 without powers to after two tornadoes reported to the outskirts of the city. hurricane-force winds doing this, take a l look at me you don't want to see that driving. they seen a trampoline flying down the road yesterday linked

to nebraska. janice dean here with the fox news forecast. look, i've seen a lot of stuff covering the news and a lot of weird things on a highway but never seen a trampoline. >> they say if you have severe weather in the area, you have to make sure things like trampolines and all of your outdoor furniture is secure, right? when you have hurricane-force winds, you have potential projectiles. let's take a look at storm reports the last 24 hours, couple of tornado warned storms around omaha area. the problem is with all those people, the power, we have extreme heat across the region. here is a live radio are. we have to storms firing up towards illinois and another day of strong severe weather for parts of the ohio valley, tennessee river valley towards midatlantic. we could see large hail, certainly damaging winds and isolated tornado spirit the heat is relentless across central u.s. toward southeast florida to midatlantic and another round of very warm, hot weather for the northwest.

forecast heat indices, 103 dallas, 105 nashville, 107 little rock and kind of things on tomorrow portions of the mississippi river valley and moves towards the southeast florida. you are still warm as we get to the weekend. they were sure forecast today so again, potential strong storms over ohio and tennessee river valley, still warm across central u.s. and we are still watching this area of disturbed weather. we don't think it will get its act together until the bahamas over the weekend. by that time, todd, it is close to florida, close to the gulf coast, close to the east coast spirits and people need to watch this because it could strengthen very quickly. i wish i had better forecast, but until we get the area of circulation, i cannot give you our road track. >> todd: it seems like this storm loves being on vacation, the caribbean, stupid storm. hopefully it stays that way because we do not want damage. it is time for you but better

for the people. >> you know who's on it fox weather? >> todd: j.d., thank you very much. alleged mastermind of the 9/11 attacks and terrorists awaiting trial gitmo, guantanamo bay and will avoid the death penalty after plea deals. the deal anchoring families who lost loved ones nearly 23 years ago. >> hey, todd the department of defense reached said agreements with 3 of 5 9/11 terrorist suspects, which means they alleged mastermind into coaccomplices, excuse me, responsible for murdering 3,000 people in the worst terrorist attack on u.s. soil will escape. in a letter to the victims families obtained by "new york post," prosecutors explain the removal of death penalty for possible punishment these three plead guilty to all charge defenses including murder of 2,976 people listed in the charge sheet this includes the

architect, who proposed the idea of hijacking airplanes with usama bin laden and u.s. educated engineer and jihadist and accused of training and directing the hijackers. also accused of training two of the hijackers and suspected of managing the finances for the 9/11 attacks. this shocking plea deal comes almost a month out from the 23 year anniversary of september 11 and loved ones of the victims are outraged, including the husband of slain nypd officer smith. the prosecution and family have waited 23 years to have our day in court to put all on the record but these animals did to our loved ones. they took that opportunity away from us. they commit of the worst crime in the history of our country. they should receive the highest penalty. a sentiment shared far and wide, even among congressional lawmakers. her more than two decades, the

family of those murdered by the terrorists have waited for justice and this plea deal is a slap in the face for those families. they deserve better from the biden hero's administration. but the biden-harris administration is distancing itself from this saying it played no role in this process, todd. >> todd: chanley painter, thank you and killed in the attacks and now the president of 9/11, what was your reaction when you heard the news of this plea deal? >> welcome it is just terrible and shocking. just yesterday my sat with over 500 family members in the southern district of federal court of manhattan where we waited 23 years for a trial in that court we found out about the role of the kingdom of saudi arabia played pure to got access to documents that the fbi and the doj finally shared with us. this is exactly why a man this is the importance why we need a public trial. look, the united states government does not want the american public to see what

these individuals have to say pure they want to wrap 9/11 up in a box and put a little bow on it and never have to deal with these painful, tough issues. we need a president who will be strong on this issue. we need a president who will not put saudi arabia first could no offense to people who voted for donald trump. he's writing the saudi arabia train and people like kamala harris and others to step forward and be strong on this. we need former president trump to be strong on this issue. they cannot put these animals away and not let them see a trial and have a core, which or their right to just to the mike justice. america is founded upon justice. we need a lawsuit, day in court and we need a hearing. you cannot put these individuals away without hearing but they have to say. yesterday is a prime example why we need our day in court. >> todd: as part of the plea deal, the terrorists have agreed to respond to questions from the family members of victims. bread to come are you planning

on submitting questions, and if so, what will you ask the people who killed your dad? >> we want to know what the kingdom of saudi arabia did. we want to know what they did. listen, everything we uncovered said the kingdom of saudi arabia has played a significant role. we now know 30 individuals helped saudi arabia government officials facilitate and support the 9/11 hijackers. these individuals of the truth to what actually happened 9/11. it wasn't that somehow 19 individuals with no knowledge of english, no experience, no money, no idea how to fly a plane somehow able to band together and pull up devastating consequential attack in this country's history without any help from anybody. what we uncover as they had significant hope and help in the form of the government of saudi arabia. we need a political leader come up, congress, both sides of the l to stand together with the

american people. we need a presidential candidate who will put put america first and donald trump i've heard him say put america first but stand with 9/11 victims and old saudi arabia countable. >> todd: from a personal perspective, this was your dad. what is going through your mind when you hear the person and people that killed your dad or not themselves going to be put to death based on a plea deal struck by your government. speak with a person and people that put my dad to death or stan court and southern district of manhattan. it is the government of saudi arabia. i take no position on these people who are getting a plea deal. plea deals, as far as i'm concerned, are away for the united states government to subvert the truth. we need a trial. if they know anything about what saudi arabia did, we need to hear it from them, whether they live or die, i don't give a c

crap. that is for god to judge. if they want to rot away in a jail sale, and they want to be martyrs, then maybe living and rotting away in a jail cell is the way to go but i don't take a position on life or deat. but i want to know what these individuals know about what the government of saudi arabia did to kill my father. >> todd: it is that of question and for having those questions come i would share them as well with my dad were killed now 23 years ago. thank you for your time this morning. appreciate it, sir. up next, we are asking parents about safety concerns for their families as the migrant crime we are seeing in our country basically turns every statement to a border state. it was under kamala harris' watch. don't go anywhere. >> raise your hand if you think civil offense rather than a crime to cross the border without documentation? can we keep their hands up so we can see them? [applause] ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> todd: vice presidential nominee, j.d. vance, will be visiting the border while his stop in arizona while vice president kamala harris went to texas commission made no effort to see the border crisis there. meantime, hundreds of orders away, hitting one virginia community after melanie wall decker was murdered by illegal immigrants during a carjacking. john take us from loudoun county, virginia, where the crime took place and john joins me now. another completely avoidable crime that takes the life of an american citizen. where do you leave the blame? the answer is easy to say illegal immigration problem. but the reality is we look at things in loudoun county and there's been a problem for years now and it is truly systemic. when you have a systemic problem and y you can connect the dots, you have to ask yourself what is

really going on? and i grew up, a systemic problem, you work on leadership. i think we have a leadership problem throughout this county. >> todd: it is not just throughout the county but i would argue the top of our nation. rachel, a loudoun county parent. here is kamala harris attempt at complete 180 on the border. those kamala harris up till last week known worldwide as the border czar, watch. >> abolish i.c.e. that position that you agree with? >> listen, i think there was no question we have to critically re-examine i.c.e. and its role in the way it is being administered in the work at is doing and we need to start about thinking from scratch. >> raise your hand if you think it should be civil offense rather than a crime across the border without documentation? can we keep hands up so we can see them? [applause] >> donald trump does not care about border security. he only cares about himself.

when i am president come i will actually work to solve the problem here problem here it's been one rachel, someone living in the county dealing with migrant crime like so many of our counties far away from the actual border are these days, do you trust kamala harris to solve a problem that, quite frankly, she and joe biden lit get to the point that it is now? >> of course not. first of all, i would use her words come i think we need to critically re-examine our leadership. i think we need to critically re-examine what is going on, not just in our county but our country. this is just another example of a crime and of the actions that happen when we let people into our borders. they are not vetted and they are not checked. we open our borders to anybody and everybody. honestly, this is happening across the country, not just in loudoun county. so yeah i'm i don't trust her, and i think we need a change in

leadership. in order to the do that, we need to show up and vote in november to make that change. >> todd: as a dad, john and i do everything binary whether safe or not and i make that analysis on basically everything. do you fear for your kids' lives knowing the migrant crisis is not just texas, arizona, california thing but the migrant crisis is in every single state including loudoun county, prett. your kids could be the victim of somebody who is not supposed to be here. >> no, you are right. this used to be a place people were drawn to is one of the most prestigious places to live in this area. it was a safe area. but if you go back, we started having homes with public safety in our school's ear and became well-known for perversion being allowed in school or as and when that is allowed and public safety officials don't handle it well, next thing you have

coverups of rapes and i would suggest a direct correlation between policies in schools and criminals have that this is a good place to promote crime. you don't see these problems in north dakota where they have strong sheriffs and places like here, you've got this problem. it's getting worse, not better. >> todd: obviously, you've been critical of the administration in loudoun county. we reached out to loud loudoun county sheriff's office and this is a tragedy in one ofe safest in the county where violent crime can happen anywhere and we must do everything in our power to keep citizens safe. stopping those from entering our nation. got to leave it there. thank you for your time. as parents we have to keep it safe and certainly in this country in loudoun county now makes that tough but we appreciate your time here at let's get back on the campaign e harris flip-flopping on a number of issues to persuade voters and

kamala stance on phones as she r supporting mandatory buybacks ae with more. she is more flip-flops than me on a summer vacation. >> she and the campaign really have the last week have changed their positions. we have seen fracking, that position has changed and obviously pennsylvania, fracking, 100,000 jobs. the gas industry in pennsylvania, 120,000 jobs and they made pennsylvania. she is clearly making some changes, but one of the big ones we haven't talked about yet -- first, listen to what she said about the issue of the first time she was running for president. this was about assault weapons. watches. >> do you believe in buyback of assault weapons? >> i do believe we need a buyback program. i support a mandatory buyback program and it has to be smart and we have to do it the right way. you can be in favor of second amendment and civil

society with with assault weapons. no executive order when they say i will eliminate assault weapons. >> hey, joe, instead of saying no, let's say yes, we can. [laughter] >> lets be constitutional. >> yes, we can. >> well, fast forward to today, her time as a senator, remind she bans assault weapons and increase oversight of gun dealers and universal background checks. that is when she was a senator. she campaign for mandatory buybacks of assault weapons during filled 2020 presidential bid here with a reverse that. the campaign has come and they also say she backs what president biden still wants and that is a ban on assault weapons. but the buyback program, she says is no longer something she is pushing for. >> todd: besides her hatred of donald trump, has she stuck with any position in the past? is she vice president or is that changed too? >> when it comes to abortion,

she has. i got to give you the facts here, but i would say certainly a political calculation or change on fracking. and also medicare for all. remember medicare for all was an original bernie sanders plan and the government rancher health care and no more private insurance. and that is unpopular. >> todd: and apparently keep criminals in jail, which 2020, she didn't necessarily want to. >> her former history as a prosecutor. >> todd: another democrat defection coming out of -- and you would have told me this would have happened come i would have told you know but this is why. >> this is so interesting. the former president of paypal makes an announcement on social media with a lengthy post on x. and this is david marcus, i am costing the rubicon i'm back in the republican party in president trump, many including a former version of myself get trapped in a framework that becomes their identity and prevents them in their thinking with new facts and information.

i finally broke free from all of it. what are one of the things he ts about in the post from an incido pitch dnc to raise $100 million from silicon valley emphasis 2017 to build a tech platform so they don't have a repeat of the disaster of hillary clinton's campaign for 2016. and he says, "i don't believe in elites versus the regular american." that is what fellow dnc is. so he gets burned by the democratic party. the other thing i want to say real quick here is that there is as of yesterday a group of 100 venture capitalists coming out of silicon valley that are supporting harris. it is a new group and it is called d.c.s for, kamala. and several other billionaires. but silicon valley is not one

and david marcus says he lays out this is why president tom should be the next president. >> todd: chucking we are all individuals. thank you, you bet. you see this wild situation yesterday, the national association of black journalists convention and chakra were responding to critics after a testy q&a with journalist. there is jack and he is mixed (♪) [birds chirping] [phone dings] meanwhile, at a vrbo... oh my god. what? i got onekeycash on this house. hmm... [water flowing] hmm... when other vacation rentals throw curveballs, try one that gives rewards. everybody wants super straight, super white teeth. they want that hollywood white smile. new sensodyne clinical white provides 2 shades whiter teeth

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♪ ♪ >> todd: former president trump sparring with reporters at the national association of black journalists convention. take a look. >> you attack like journalists calling them a loser and sang the questions they ask are stupid and racist. why should black voters trust you? >> i don't think i've ever been asked a question so -- in such a horrible manner, a first question. i love the black ovulation of this country. i've done so much for the black population of this country. employment including opportunity zones historically black colleges and universities were out of money, stone cold broke, and i save them. i haven't answered your question. i have been the best president the black population since abraham lincoln! >> better than -- >> todd: here to rack jack

brewer, chairman of the jack brewer foundation and civil rights commissioner. and several opinions for trump to go there and what we ultimately so, bad strategy and you knew you would get questions like that but others say, boy, he will fight any time anywhere for the american people. what camp are human? >> no doubt, they didn't tell him to meet at school for the fight but they jumped him. so i think president trump sparred back the way they he should have. it is really sad when you start to look at what is going on. president trump brought up a great point, i am a father of four kids and my kids are mixed, three of my kids are mixed. so my wife is half middle eastern, and my kids -- and she's half wife, excuse me, half white. so a quarter middle eastern puritan 50% black. my kids consider themselves black. so to come in and say race only matters when we want to matter so you can go around and be an

indian woman for your entire political career but all of a sudden, you want to paint as a black person pure donald trump was right about standing up for what he saw it like the rest of the country saw. i just watch cnn special coming here that was bragging about kamala harris being the first indian-american vice president. they ran specials about that. so why can't that man say that? i thought he was dead on. i think that is the reason kamala harris did not show up herself. but remember, trump came there with the thought kamala would be there and she wasn't. i think time and time again, the americans are saying donald trump is consistent. he tells you how he feels and not sugarcoated me will not paint to the race game. he knows his track record on african-americans and track record with policies that are helping the black people. that means jobs. that means real freedom. criminal justice reform in the first step out of it, he let out over 10,000 black men from

prison. kamala harris locked up thousands of black men. there was nothing they can do to run from the real record of what kamala harris has done and what president trump has done for african-americans periods me when i think there are real interesting answers for trump rally when yesterday fox crew spoke to black americans. let's take a look. >> as far as i seen, she is not winning the black vote at all. now, from what i have seen, black women yes, black men, no. >> there were two things come at the silent vote for trump and silent no vote. that is what you will see. she won't get the numbers that perceive she will in a black vote for trump or no vote. >> that is out of frustration? >> that is out of frustration but black people can only blame yourselves because you listen to democrat aides decade after decade. >> todd: your reaction to what you heard there specifically the comment from the gentleman that

black men are just not energized by the kamala harris election and black men are really, really going for president trump because, jack, i got attention of that in your first answer to me. i wonder how big of a forces this right now. >> it is a huge force and they can't understand it because they can't comprehend the wimax. barack obama came in and got your support from bl black men. kamala harris can't do that i'm a white? throughout history, she has been a terror to black men. you look at who she looked up and how she looked them up and to look back and to see that she so liberal on immigration. right? if you are illegal immigrant, she pushes to let you out of jail. now, you look back at her record as attorney general, she locked blackman up there and so what, if i'm an illegal immigrant you want to show me a favor by the black man locked me up? of course you will not get the black vote. we see through that and we see through the race baiting and you

can't come every four years and try to appease black folks and think we are going to support you. i think it will be a failed effort and i think the more kamala speaks, the more you will see pushback who she really is. we need her to speak, talk, and they will try to keep her in the basement like joe biden. they will never go front and center like they did with president trump being asked questions and not have a script in front of you to read from. i think that is the biggest difference, todd periods me when i think you are right to be concerned about basement stratey 2.0. keep in mind it's been 11 days since for all intents and purposes became nominee, right? we still don't have a press conference with real questions and beautiful flowing zoom meetings and flowing rallies but no one is pressing her and that is what she needs to be pressed. i'm so fascinated by the black male vote the next three months will be fascinating to see. when black males turn out for

trump but two young males, black-and-white, 18-29 register to vote so they can vote for donald trump or kamala harris. jack brewer, i vote for you. you know i love you. you are on my favorite team the new york football jets. my favorite fast food place pixelate a driver fighting off alleged armed robber pulling a mask off and surveillance videot first, some favorites come i love peter doocy with a look what is coming up on "fox & friends," take it away. >> nice to see you on thursday, coming up on "fox & friends" in 20 seconds. the accused mastermind of 9/11 on the couple of flutters behind the attacks have reached plea deals with the u.s. government to avoid the death penalty. how are the victims families reacting? we will talk to some of them and hear from some of them. congressman mike waller calls the decision disgusting. he will join us live in the

studio. bp nominee j.d. vance said to visit the border as harris flips the script as she turns a blind eyes straight ahead. another flip-flop, harris walking back calls for mandatory gun buyback program. is she a threat to the second amendment? plus clashing in on chicago. trump caught and combative q&a while touting his accomplishments for the black community. harris faulkner, as you can see on the screen on the right on the panel and will join us live in chicago with her take. plus, megan ortega's, rachel campus duffy and byron york stops by. kicks off 9 minutes and five seconds right on the channel you todd, back in a couple and yu are watching "fox & friends first."

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and take a look at this. chilling new video taken by one of the men actually shot during the trump assassination attempt shows a figure moving across the roof just moments before shots were fired. and today former president trump expected to be interviewed by the fbi about the shooting. chris schweikart a former assistant fbi director he joins me now. chris, of all the videos we have seen so far. is this one the most damning when it comes to the secret service response? because, quite frankly, it's the

audience's perspective, the crowd's perspective, we can see something that doesn't look quite right. where was the secret service? >> yeah. it is both damning and chilling. you know, i hearing back to the testimony of the acting secret service director where he went to great pains to make a case that the snipers could not have seen him but here you can see him from the ground. so, and in plenty of time to actually intervene, if need be. i mean, this was a case of just really poor execution, planning, and communication. you know, i think the myth has been busted that the secret service are the best in the business. they have been going for 40 years with no incident. i think they just.com play sent. >> today fbi victim interview of donald trump will take place. maybe it's me. i just think this is going to be proforma. correct me if i am wrong. each passing day, the feds, the state and local have a blame game that just seems to grow

with fingers pointed at one another, grows more and more by the day. as have you studied the information that has come to you, what story do you think is the most plausible? when you look at the information, what does the real story look like to you? >> yeah. i mean, first, about trump's interview, you're right. that's a nonevent. there is nothing that he will add that the fbi doesn't already know. but i think the narrative here, the story line here at large is that the secret service got very complacent. as i mentioned earlier, they have gone 40 years with no incident, so they are more out there posing than they are actually implementing security measures. the blame game to me is the only blame is on the secret service. when you are working inner agency operations you have to make darn shore that your local police department and state departments are connected in to the the command center. whether they're on their own network or on the secret service network, it doesn't matter. two people from different

agencies sitting right next to each other, passing information real time that just didn't happen. that's executive protection 101. and i just think that, you know, they were poorly trained and poor planning, poor execution and you stand back. look at the secret service these days. they are more investigative agency than they are a protective agency. and i think they have to reverse that only about 30% of the resources are doing protection. >> your former agency, the fbi has contracted an israeli tech firm meantime to help get through the encryption on the shooter's devices that according to sources. why? why doesn't the fbi have this technology in house already? we're the united states. why do we have to contract out to an israeli firm to get this, chris? >> yeah, because they are better than we are at the tech -- at this kind of tech exploitation, forensic exploitation. we're good but we are not as good as the israelis. you got these encrypted apps that are developed overseas. developed outside the united

states. and some of the information -- some of it is not stored. some of it is on the device still. they got to crack into the password to get into the device. i'm not surprised that they have gone to the israelis. they just are better at it. >> todd: that doesn't make me feel reassured in any way, shape, or form but it's honesty. that's what we get from you chris swecker, we appreciate it? >> thank you. >> todd: georgia police and deputies arresting a suspected robber in gwinnett county yesterday thanks to chick-fil-a delivery driver. pointing a gun at the employee i don't. the driver says he was forced te lead the man to the store's safe and told if he would die if he didn't open it. fought back. telling he didn't know the combination. after struggling for the gun. he was able to remove the suspect's mask. allowing police to track him down. that's brave. to the paris olympics we go. one of america's greatest swimmers ever, katie ledecky continuing her dominance

yesterday setting a new olympic record on her way to another gold in the women's 1500 freestyle. 27-year-old maryland native get this now has 8 career olympic gold medals that is tied for most all time of any female swimmer. i'm going to come out and say it. i will have a controversy statement. she is really good. as for these games the u.s. still leads the total medal count with 31 so far. france coming in at 26. it is their games. they should have somewhat close to the top of the leaderboard. china there with 20. great britain 17, and australia at 16. they have got a lot of good stuff down there in australia in terms of summer activity, so you prep yourself. you get ready are to the summer games. "fox & friends" starts right now. go out there and make it a spectacular thursday, everybody. happy august.

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