as you do. and my good friend steve breyer says, if i listen to almost anyone talk for long enough, i'm going to find something they say that we can agree on, and maybe we should start there. the book is a collection of fascinating, somewhat infuriating stories that i think real people that we should all know their stories and that it should spark a conversation about where we go from here. so best wishes with the book and thank you for your time. thank you shannon. overruled. is available tuesday wherever books are sold. that's it for today. thank you for joining us. i'm jackie heinrich. shannon bream is back next sunday. have a great week. we'll see you next. fox news sunday.

hello america i'm mark levin and this is life, liberty and levin. sunday this opening statement i'm going to cover two issues race and democracy. we also have two great guests, jonathan turley and rich goldberg. but before we get to them, it is amazing how in virtually every election cycle, especially presidential election cycle, the democrat party, the party of slavery and segregation and eugenics, the party of woodrow wilson that resegregated the civil service and the military, the party of franklin roosevelt, who never lifted a finger for the black community, who received a bill in 1940 on his desk. a bipartisan bill to federally outlaw lynching. and he wouldn't sign it. the party of lyndon johnson. yes, lyndon johnson, the biggest racist to ever be president of the united states. and right up until 1960, when he decided to run for president, he led the charge of the southern

segregationists. oh, the 64 and 65 civil rights act. but for the fact that a supermajority of senate republicans and house republicanss voted voted for te bills, there'd for those bills, there'd be no such bills. and i might add, some of joe biden's best friends filibustered those bills. and that's what i want to get to donald trump throughout his life has not demonstrated one ounce of racism. he's a big businessman. he was involved in supporting various campaigns. democrats reform party, then republican, and so forth. he has no record of being a racist or a segregationist at all. and as president of the united states, he was one of the most prolific presidents in terms of trying to advance causes and programs for the black community as well as other minority communities. and yet again, here we are, a presidential election in the party that is the party of the confederacy, the party of the

klan, the party of racism and segregationism is now trying to paint the republican nominee as them. he's not them. joe biden is them. i watched that national black journalism association event, and i was appalled. i want to start by addressing the elephant in the room, sir. a lot of people did not think it was appropriate for you to be here today. you have pushed false claims about some of your rivals, from nikki haley to former president barack obama, saying that they were not born in the united states, which is not true. you have told four congresswomen of color who were american citizens to go back to where they came from. you have used words like animal and rabid to describe black district attorneys. you've attacked black journalists, calling them a loser, saying the questions that they ask are, quote, stupid and racist. you've had dinner with a white supremacist at your mar a lago resort. so my question, sir. now that you

are asking black supporters to vote for you, why should black voters trust you after you have used language like that? well first of all, i don't think i've ever been asked a question. so in such a horrible manner. the first question you don't even say hello, how are you? are you with abc? because i think they're a fake news network. a terrible network, and i think it's disgraceful that i came here in good spiri. i love the black population of this country. i've done so much for the black population of this country. i think it's a very rude introduction. i don't know exactly why you would do something like that. and let me go a step further. i was invited here and i was told my opponent, whether it was biden or kamala, i was told my opponent was going to be here. it turned out my opponent isn't here. you invited me under

false pretense, and then you said, you can't do it with zoom. well, you know, where's zoom? she's going to do it with zoom and she's not coming. and then you are a half an hour late. just so we understand, i have too much respect for you to be late. they couldn't get their equipment working or something. mr. president, i would love i think it's a very nasty question. and i have answered the question. i have been the best president for the black population since abraham lincoln, better than my answer, better than president johnson, who signed the voting rights act for you to start off a question and answer period, especially when you're 35 minutes late because you couldn't get your equipment to work in such a hostile manner. i think it's a disgrace, i really do. joe biden has sat in that chair. you know well they wouldn't treat him the way they treated donald trump. and joe biden has a long history of being a truly terrible person. and i want to thank of all people, yes, nikki haley, because she put out a press statement some time ago when

she was running because you see her race and ethnicity were questioned by the left, by the democrat party, by the likes of the view, sunny houston and so forth. oh, she's kind of playing the race card. you know, she's really indian. she's not really black. oh, i see and so we have a long list here. joe biden's timeline of racial comments and actions from 71 to 74, his legal residence had a deed barring ownership by african americans, a 1974 biden made an analogy of himself as a 20 year old in the senate to being a token black. 1975 biden asked if the only way a black man or woman can learn is if they rub shoulders with a white child. in 1977, he said that bussing would cause his children to grow up in a racial jungle. 1977 he voted against black justice department nominee, specifically over their opposition to bussing. 1977 biden said he asked to join the senate judiciary committee specifically to lead the charge against bussing, that is, against integration. 1979 biden

voted to allow racially segregated private schools to keep their tax exempt status. 1981 biden said george wallace was right about some things. 1984 biden used the word boy to refer to jesse jackson. 1985 biden made a favorable comparison between segregationist senator john stennis and confederate general stonewall jackson. 1987 biden, quote, sought to appeal to white voters by touting an award he received from george wallace in 1973, where he praised biden as one of the outstanding young politicians in america. the list goes on and on, folks. on and on. i wonder, but charlamagne tha god thinks about this. ooh, i wonder what that abc news reporter thinks about this. they don't think about it at all. and dare they ask kamala harris, why would you be a running mate with a man like a record like this? remember what you said, kamala, in the 2020 debate? oh on the issue of race, i couldn't agree more

that this is an issue that is still not being talked about. truthfully and honestly. i there is not a black man i know, be he a relative, a friend or a coworker who has not been the subject of some form of profiling or discrimination. growing up, my sister and i had to deal with the neighbor who told us her parents couldn't play with us because because we were black and i will say also that that in this campaign we've also heard and i'm going to now direct this at vice president biden. i do not believe you are a racist. and i agree with you. when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground. but i also believe and it's personal and i was actually very it was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two united states senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country. and it was not only

that, but you also worked with them to oppose bussing. and, you know, there was a little girl in california who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools, and she was bussed to school every day. and that little girl was me. you really eviscerated joe biden for his racism and segregationism that you desperately wanted to be vice president. so all of that was put aside. all of it doesn't matter. but what i really want to discuss this evening is democracy. the democrats used to say they're going to save democracy from us, from trump, from maga, from conservatives. you know, anyone who disagrees with them. and yet here we have an election that's the most undemocratic election in american history, not because the republicans who went through the primary process went through the nomination process, had a convention voted at the convention. you know, participatory democracy. if you will. but the democrats haven't

done any of that. the people voted in the primary, and the person they voted for was broomed out by the media and the democrat party, and they're trying to install kamala harris. they're doing it right now. they have what they call virtual nominating going on. did you know that she's going to be nominated by the democrat party before they even have a convention? so there's not even a debate at the convention. there's not even an opportunity for a debate at the convention. there's not an opportunity for anybody to challenge her. they crushed that a long time ago. these delegates were delegates for biden. all of a sudden, they've transitioned their delegates for kamala harris. wow. what about all those voters? they don't matter. they don't matter. and even more than that, look at this campaign that they're running the media and the democrat party. what kind of campaign is this? we don't have access to kamala harris, kamala harris is an extremist. she's a radical. she's a racialist. and i would argue in many respects, she's

an anti-semite, but she's married to a jew. i could care less. well, she might appoint a jew as her running mate. i could care less. i could care less. i'm not into identity politics. i'm into facts and substance. that's what i'm into. and her record? it doesn't speak for itself because the media won't report it. her record is horrendous. horrendous. and she hangs out with care. a radical islamist hamas front group, hamas is a terrorist organization. if you haven't checked it out lately, kamala, her pastor, amos brown, another racialist and anti-semite in my opinion, because he was there in south africa at a meeting and joining up with the anti-semites. and by the way, he's free to come on the show. kamala is free to come on the show. anybody can come on the show. i'm happy to debate you and go over your records very, very clearly. but what kind of democracy is this? this isn't a democracy. the way this is taking place. the democrat party doesn't believe in a democracy. it believes in autocracy. james madison wrote

in august 4th, 1822, a popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it is but a prolog to a farce or tragedy, or perhaps both. knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power. knowledge gives knowledge about the candidates and the issues. i would add. so we're being prevented from getting knowledge about kamala harris. so we have the videos, we have her statements, but she's flip flopping. we need to question her about it. but she's hiding out. she's like joe biden and pantsuit. what do i mean by that? you can't get access to her unless you're a friendly group. unless you're a hand-picked, friendly, so-called journalist. she's got her surrogates out there. that is the media democrat party operatives, other people telling us what she means, telling us what donald trump

means. she needs to sit over and over and over again for serious interviews, voting is one thing. voting based on information about the candidate and their politics is true. voting. people vote all the time, all over the world. they vote in venezuela, as bernie sanders would call it. they vote in russia. oh yes, they even used to vote in iraq before saddam hussein was taken out. is this an open voting system? they talk about ballots. they talk about drop boxes. they talk about voter harvesting. they talk about if you disagree with them, voter suppression, voter repression, voter oppression. what is this? they say they support voting. what they don't support is knowledge and information. so you know who you're voting for or who you're voting against and why. biden holds record of lowest number of press

conferences. remember this record number, lowest number of press conferences. and the media knew it. they didn't have a problem with it. they didn't have a problem with it at all. biden told them what to think, biden told them what to say, and then the debate revealed everything. even though the media knew it. but so many americans may not have who don't focus on these things. so the media went into damage control mode as did the democrat party. they're attached at the hip, so they blow out biden, and yet they're doing the same exact thing with kamala harris. they're lying. biden was shuffling. biden was looking into the ether. biden was this. he's talk and so forth. oh, the clips are a lie. oh, they're just cherry picking and so forth. and so look at look at kamala harris full promotion by the media, full defense against any challenges by the media. the full racialization and sexualization of the campaign, which is what the democrats do in every election. and so this is taking

place right now. now she's plagiarizing the biden campaign. she's issuing statements or her staff are she won't sit down for a serious interview. and she's afraid, you know, i will challenge donald trump anywhere. excuse me. that's fine. that's a debate you owe the american people the truth. you need to reveal yourself to the american people through questioning, not through billions of dollars of media, in-kind campaign contributions and fluff. not through hundreds of millions of dollars in propaganda advertisements telling us what to think of you and telling us how great you are. you know, this isn't mao's china, this isn't putin's russia, and yet you treat it as if it is. you treat the american people with disrespect. the average person is being spoon fed propaganda soundbites, identity politics, media spin. this isn't

democracy. this is not how you run an election. george orwell in 1946 wrote the following. it is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic, we are praising it. consequently, the defenders of every kind of regime claim that it's a democracy. words of this kind are often used in a consciously dishonest way. the democrat party is an operating as if we're in a democracy. the democrat party is operating as if we're in an autocracy. and this has been going on for a long time. so the harris and her ilk claim to be defending democracy, as they're systematically dismantling it. they're afraid of you. they're afraid of we the people. they're afraid of the voters. they're afraid of challenges in a primary. they're afraid of all this stuff. they're spoon feeding this to us. kamala harris has never won a single vote from any american citizen for president of the united

states. she's being nominated by delegates who were chosen as biden delegates. she's being nominated through a virtual voting system right now, not an open convention. no challenges, no debates, no democracy. this is how fascistic and marxist parties conduct themselves. that's what you're seeing more the reason that harris be forced out of hiding, forced to abandon her cynical campaign and reveal herself to the public. and we must demand it. kamala harris, get off your high horse. make yourself available to the american people. available for interviews by non sycophantic media. address your flip flops. address your extremist record address the fact that you boycotted benjamin netanyahu and that you take the side of hamas as opposed to israel. oh yes, you do address your opposition to school choice, address your opposition to police address comparing ice to the klan, stand up, confront

your record. speak to the american people before voting begins in about a month. address your awful record as san francisco district attorney. your awful record as attorney general of california. defend your position. she's the great prosecutor. oh my goodness. except when it comes to little little boys who are molested by priests in san francisco. well, well, you kno, i'm not answering you people, except when it comes to people stealing under $1,000 from stores in california. she's the one who unleashed what's taking place in california. in that respect, why should we believe you're tough enough to deal with? she and putin and un and the other evil genocidal maniacs. why should we believe you're tough enough to deal with iran and hamas and hezbollah and the houthis? why should we believe any of that? when you're scared of us, we

the people, when you're scared of a tough interview or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5, trump goes everywhere. he's ubiquitous. you go nowhere except where, you know you'll be safe, where you'll be lauded, where you'll be applauded. you can say the most horrendous things about your opponent and the country. i'll give you a perfect example. you keep waving around this so-called bipartisan immigration bill. this bill, ladies and gentlemen, is a disaster. and i'd like to ask her about it. i know cnn, msnbc, and the rest of the reprobates won't. according to the heritage foundation, tom homan and mark morgan, who know a hell of a lot about this subject. three senators and biden secretly negotiated this border bill, and the bill codifies biden's and mayorkas open border tools in the statute. they codify the executive orders, which would make it impossible to get rid of them with, god willing, a trump presidency. they go on. the key takeaway is that

neither the funding nor the statutory reforms would truly secure the border. the border security is the only measure that congress should use. so i want to ask kamala harris. she supports this bill. it's a very long bill. i'm sure she's read every word of it. well, what else does she support in this bill? with more than $7 billion for the department of homeland security, state justice, hhs, the biden administration would again fund sanctuary jurisdictions and nongovernmental organizations that have been facilitating mass illegal immigration. so they fund them. what else? they accept and codify crisis levels of daily illegal immigration. if passed into law, the law would create a three year border emergency authority to allow agents to expel illegal aliens back across the border during extraordinary migration circumstances. but the numerous exceptions and limitations swallow the whole bill. the secretary of homeland security has the discretion to activate the authority after us customs and border encounters an

average of 4000 illegal aliens daily for seven consecutive days. you know, the obama secretary of dhs said over 1000 was a crisis. they go on, secretary, activation of the emergency authority becomes mandatory after the cbp encounters 5000 illegals daily average for seven consecutive days, or 8500, in one day. not counted in those numbers are unaccompanied children parolees. those who claim to fear of prosecution, and how many others? they're shipping people into the country. almost a million now. they don't count with the app people coming in. may i have an appointment to come into your country? oh, absolutely. they don't count. so they're lying through their teeth about the numbers going down and what this bill does continue to allow these crisis levels of illegal alien encounters means the border agents would remain overwhelmed. it goes on and on. well, what's taking place here? in other words, it's a fraud. which is exactly why kamala harris says if we had the

bipartisan bill. but trump and the republicans wouldn't want it. well, let's talk about that bill. kamala will you make yourself available so we can discuss that? no you make yourself available because you haven't done a thing about anti-semitism taking place. but my husband's jewish. who cares? that's identity politics. i'm interested in substance. your record is a disgrace. isn't that why you won't make yourself available to the public? that's the answer. you're not running a democratic campaign. your party is not democratic. and this is not a democratic election. considering this autocratic democrat party. i'll be right back

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october 8th, by hamas since october seventh. they're under attack by the houthis. iran is behind the whole thing. this administration has had numerous special pleaders, people really, who would make alger hiss look like a great american patriot, in terms of back channeling to the foreign minister of iran. iran's going to get a nuclear weapon. tell me, what has this administration done to deter iran at all from threatening us, threatening our former president with an assassination plot, threatening the israeli people? what is this administration done to deter any of this? nothing. nothing. actually, they've invited it all. they've shredded anything we had, like deterrence coming into the last couple of years, and they continued to erode our deterrence as they pursued a nuclear deal with iran. they wanted to get back to that old nuclear deal. they opened up spigots of cash. right now, with everything going on in the news right now, there is $10 billion being made available to iran that the president could say, stop, we're not going to let you have that money

anymore. right now, with everything going on, iran's oil is allowed to flow. china almost 2 million barrels per day going to china. the president could say to the chinese, stop it. we're going to enforce our sanctions. what is he doing with israel? he's withholding weapons when he should be saying very publicly to iran, we're going to make sure israel has every last bit of munitions. it needs to carry out any mission. it needs to defend itself and to take out its terror threats. he hasn't done any of that. so what is the regime in iran? see, right now they see weakness. they see an invitation to escalate. because what does the president say? he wants to de-escalate. he doesn't say, i'm going to back israel. if they need to counterattack against iran or against hezbollah or against hamas or against the houthis in yemen, he says israel, knock it off, get a cease fire. we're going to withhold your weapons until you do. and we're going to keep the sanctions relief for iran. that's madness, mark. it's complete madness. and it is why we are in a situation of the middle east on fire. and rich goldberg, kamala harris is worse, isn't she? she boycotts

netanyahu's speech that sent a word to hezbollah, hamas, the houthis and iran and the other jew hater anti-semites in our country and all over the world. i looked she's never denounced talib for her comments. she's never denounced omar. in fact, she took the position that omar shouldn't have been sanctioned by the house of representatives. she's as tight as a tick with this group care, which is a hamas front group. she surrounds herself with these radicals, including her national security advisor. i believe his name is phil gordon. what do you make of he? well, her policy is going to be at this point as far as we know, the same or worse than the president currently, she owns all of his policies as far as appeasing iran. she hasn't said she wants to go back to maximum pressure. she still wants to get back to a nuclear deal. her national security adviser, who you just mentioned, phil gordon, is one of the architects and leading proponents of going back to a nuclear deal. he's also one of the ardent opponents of providing israel the weapons it needs to actually get jobs done in the middle east and deter

threats. so whether you have harris or biden, the policies look the same. it's appeasement of iran and pressure on israel. but let's back up and let's remind americans who we are talking about here. when you saw israel take out the operational commander of hezbollah in beirut, that was a man who murdered 241 american marines in 1983 and was behind many more attacks for decades after that. when you see ismail haniyeh, the leader of hamas, who was at the right hand of the founder of hamas for years, another man with american blood on his hands, not just on october 7th but long before that taken out that was doing justice for american families, for american victims of terrorism and who is their sponsor? who is their overlord? who's pulling all the strings? it's the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism that chants death to america, death to israel. that's currently plotting to assassinate president trump, that's trying to meddle in our elections right now because they know

that donald trump is an existential threat to their way of life, of sponsoring terrorism and building missiles and acquiring nuclear weapons. that is what is at stake right now. we'll be right back

welcome back america. you know, richard goldberg, kamala harris is touting herself through her advertisements and surrogates that she's a tough prosecutor

up against a convicted felon. isn't it just amazing to you that the resources of the federal government will be used as much as possible to try and put donald trump in prison for the rest of his life? they're weaponizing the justice department for political means and not actually concentrating on the threat to americans at this moment. but you go back to what you talked about a little bit on hostage taking of americans that's going on, and we just saw the deal that just took place with russia. and we're absolutely, very happy to see journalists come home. evan gershkovich, two other americans coming home to their families. that is good news. but remember why they were taken. why did vladimir putin take americans? why did he think he could do that? why did why does iran think he can take americans? why does china now have an espionage law that threatens to take americans at any moment? because they think nothing will happen to them? because guess what nothing happens to them? nothig ha ofppens to them of conseque. we have consequence. we have to to go k and look go back and look for r them, giving them mass ways to appeas murderers back, giving theme tg

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courageous, because he is a professor at george washington law. and i'm sure i hope he's tenured and he's here on fox. and so they won't like that either. but that said, jonathan turley, i want to get a bit into the constitution, the attack on the supreme court and it all really is central to free speech and the other unalienable rights that we enjoy as american citizens. you've written a seminal book, a book that is crucially important for this time right now in this country, the indispensable right free speech in an age of rage. there it is. this is a must read for anybody who cares about the future of this country. you can get it on amazon.com, any major bookstore. and i'm not kidding about this. i thought i knew a lot about the first amendment. i still think i do, but i know twice as much now having read this book. it is a seminal book. so jonathan turley, this war on the supreme court, which is now which is now unhinged, which is now persistent, whether the pack, the court,

whether the change, the makeup of the court, whether there should be ethics rules that are applied to certain justices and not other justices separation of powers, this is a very dangerous political attack on the court, isn't it? it is. and, mark, thank you very much for inviting me on. you've been one of the strongest and certainly one of the most consistent voices in defense of free speech. and so it's a great pleasure to talk to you about the book, but you raised the right aspect about these proposals on the supreme court. they are very much part of this age of rage, and it is also an example of why this is perhaps our most dangerous age. i because of an alliance that has formed particularly against free speech involving the government, corporations, the media, academia, and they're attacking not just free speech. you're attacking core institutions. and it's a sad part of joe biden's legacy. for 50 years, he refused to take

these measures against the supreme court. for 50 years, he retained to on this principle one of his last, that he really did not compromise on. and then, in an effort to save his nomination, he gave this to the left that he would he'd hand over the court, he would go for one of these reforms. now, fortunately, they will go nowhere. but it is unfortunately, as you note, a symptom of our time, a symptom of the age of rage free speech. we have these new york courts that keep upholding this gag order against president trump. we have a prosecutor, in my view, unconstitutionally appointed. but regardless, who wants vary in this overarching gag rule in the federal system on president trump, and people are perfectly happy with it. what's the big deal you have you talked about social media, elon musk bought twitter. then we learned what twitter was actually doing, working so closely with, with the federal

government and federal agencies and the independent journalists who looked at this at every agency is involved in trying to control our speech and then we have the supreme court. the case comes before them. it's teed up, and they pass. there's no standing. they say, what do you make of that? well, i think what you see and i talk about this in the indispensable right that there's a thing about rage that people often won't admit. they like it, it's addictive. it's actually contagious. we saw that when i was covering the trump trial for the fox, news corp, i, i walked out of that building and saw people dancing in the street. it's intoxicating because it gives you license to do things you wouldn't normally do. it allows you to look away from things that you would normally object to, like gagging the leading candidate for the presidency. and i share your view about the supreme court. we are facing an unprecedented threat to free speech. that's what the book

deals with. and part of it is what i've called in testimony before congress censorship by surrogate, that a use of private companies to do indirectly what the government cannot do directly. and that's what the court had an opportunity to weigh in on. and they passed. ladies and gentlemen, the book is the indispensable right free speech in an age of rage. you can grab it right now on amazon.com. any major bookstore, it's soup to nuts. this is your core liberty. the right to speak speech applies to association. speech applies to freedom of thought. speech applies to your ability to embrace and practice your values and your belief systems and speech also involves trying to get the candidate who's running for president on the democrat side to speak to us, to have an interview. this book covers it. soup to nuts. we'll be right back. it's treasure time. duck

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america. the issue is your unalienable rights free speech and the republic, the indispensable right free speech in an age of rage. jonathan turley and get it on amazon.com. i encourage you, all of you people who are patriots and constitutionalists, you need to check this out. i'm quite serious because we're facing all of this today like never before, as jonathan turley says. and writes in his book, jonathan turley, this issue of free speech, there's a constant effort to amend the constitution to change it. there's a constant effort to influence it. i remember when conservative talk radio was under attack. i remember when tv ownership was under attack, this issue of free speech, where does it come from? well, you know, that was part of the

reason i wrote this book is to try to figure out why we're still struggling with free speech. there's a movement now to amend the first amendment. it's led by one of my colleagues who says that the first amendment is what she says, excessively individualistic. it needs to be balanced against notions like equity. that's a popular movement. and i wanted to understand why it is we're struggling with this, and i try to go through the personalities and periods that shaped our view of free speech. but one of the interesting things is that the beginning of the republic, we had a moment of clarity. the framers viewed free speech as a natural right, a right given to them by god, not some right bestowed by the government, maintained at the discretion of the government. they rejected the blackstone and british approach to free speech. and that's what you saw in the first amendment. but within a few years, we lost that clarity and we fell back by default on what i call a functionalist or an instrumentalist view of free speech, that we protect it when it's good for democracy. what

allows you then to say that some speech isn't good for democracy, and the result is that we've been on a slippery slope since then. and one of the things the book tries to look at is we are physically not just psychologically tied to free speech. you know, if you don't use expression actually parts of your brain shrink, there's a physiological response. we need to project part of ourselves to the world around us. that's why the framers said this is a gift from god. this is part of being fully human. you can't be fully human unless you are able to do that. and so we just had a poll come out showing that 70% of college students now believe that free speech is as harmful as physical violence. and only about only about half of the students agree that biased or offensive speech should be protected. that's the slippery slope that we're on. that's the success of the anti-free speech

movement, which really came from higher education. we are raising a generation of speech phobics who believe that speech is harmful to them, threatening to their very livelihoods. that's this book is trying to help get a reawakening in this country as to how this defines us as a people and why we need it to be fully human in the short time we have left. this administration has created a disinformation or misinformation board. it's been involved in trying to control social media. it's tried to control the media, which seems to want to be controlled with respect to, say, a hunter laptop or something of that sort. we're not really getting the kind of information we deserve. so we, the people can speak to each other and as a community speak about these issues that are taking place. what do you make of that? well, i have a long chapter on the media and exactly as you point out, how it is sought on the branch, they're all sitting on, they're destroying their profession. i and this administration, the

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