middle east. while everybody is seeing what is happening to the stock market right now. that long weekend is not going to be interrupted in any way, shape, or form. and yet nancy pelosi thinks he should be on mount rushmore? he should be like somewhere maybe a statue on rehoboth beach, delaware. give him that because that's where he is most of the time or wilmington, not mount rushmore such insult. lesley stahl ha ha laughing along. >> carley: great point. i don't think there is enough room room on the mountain. i don't think it's going to happen. >> joey: get rid of. bold move. >> carley: joe concha, thanks for joining us have. great day. >> thanks, guys. >> carley: mount rushmore topic who would have known only a day like today can we expect something like that to happen. a have a great monday, "fox & friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪ >> ainsley: it is 6:00 a.m. here

on the east coast. it's monday, it's august 5th. big smiles from these guys this morning. today is "fox & friends" from 6:00 to 9:00. we are glad you are here. for the first time since j.d. vance became trump's vp we were able to sit down with his wife, usha vance for next exclusive interviewed. we discussed all kinds j.d. as a family man. how their life has changed dramatically and take on her controversial childless cat laid comment. >> what is he really saying it can be really hard to be a parent in this country and sometimes our policies are designed in a way that make it even harder. and we should be asking ourselves why is that true? >> brian: wow. and the veepstakes watch. here we are, hours away. kamala harris could announce her running mate any moment and that doesn't bother her opponents. >> i don't care. let them do whatever. >> whatever she chooses, the problem is going to be kamala harris' record and kamala harris' policies.

>> steve: okay. meanwhile, look at that. we are tracking hurricane debby. the cat 1 storm is expected to make landfall perhaps this hour in the state of florida. all right. so, ladies and gentlemen it, is the monday episode of "fox & friends" and hour one starts right now. >> brian: we start with a fox news alert. get, this israeli officials are bracing. bracing for a potential attack from iran that could come as early as today. >> ainsley: president biden is getting ready to meet business had national security team in the situation room a little later today. >> steve: meanwhile, live in israel, trey yingst joins us live with the latest. trey, eyes are on israel and waiting for something to start. >> yeah. hey, guys. exactly. good morning. israel is on edge today as the country brace for an attack from iran and its proxies. the "wall street journal" reports that iran told u.s. and arab diplomats it didn't care if its counter strike led to a war.

now, jordan's foreign minister traveled to iran yesterday for a meeting and president biden is scheduled to speak with jordanian king abdullah ii. but there has been very little public iranian interaction with those trying to avert a crisis. with this in mind, israel is taking steps to prepare for a prolonged conflict as reports indicate the initial iranian response could come in waves and include extensive missile and drone attacks. now, a document was sent to the mayors of northern israeli cities, telling officials to prepare for water outages, power cuts, and evacuations. and in jerusalem, an underground command bunker for government officials was open by the shin bet security agency. preparations for war in the north and with iran come as fighting rages on inside the gaza strip. israeli negotiators traveled to cairo, egypt this weekend for talks about a possible cease-fire but made no progress. israel has ramped up strikes against gaza in recent days going after hamas but killing dozens of civilian notice process. the question is now what comes

next in all of this diplomatic efforts to avert a larger war across the region, have failed so far. and now israel must prepare for war. guys? >> brian: what happened overnight, trey. i understand hezbollah hit them with a wave of drone attacks where they successfully pelled. repelled. did any of them land? >> trey: this weekend dozens of rockets fired into israel by this iran-backed group into southern lebanon it. gives you a sense of what the organization is capable of. this was not the retaliation for the killing of hamas leader i see mel haniyeh. or the one in israeli beirut. rocket alerts coming up on our phone. also the drone attacks along the border. again, this is just a preliminary attack nothing to do with the major response preparing for. not only will they see an attack from iranian soil but also larger proxies like hezbollah in

lebanon and houthis in yemen. >> steve: trey yingst live in half if a. stay safe. >> brian: suicidal for them but we are ready to repel this attack. it looks like jordan is ready, too. >> ainsley: we have so many ships in that area and we have soldiers in that area as well big presence. >> brian: crazy thing is we still let iran sell their oil to china to get the money to fund this entire operation. doing it both sides let alone billions of dollars we gave them for the hostage swap. >> steve: waiting for it. blinken said it could happen today or it could happen tomorrow. >> ainsley: officials say it will happen. it's just a matter of when. >> steve: exactly. meanwhile, shifting our focus to domestic politics and the election upcoming in november. vice president kamala harris is expected to announce her running mate by tomorrow at the latest. >> ainsley: that's right it. comes after a handful of leading contenders reportedly met with her for a chemistry test yesterday. >> brian: madeleine rivera joins

us with more. maddy? >> the speculation is reaching a fevered pitch, guys as vice president kamala harris spends part of the day held ling with the staff one could imagine to talking about the running mate. 89 people she spoke with tim walz, pennsylvania governor josh shapiro and arizona senator mark kelly. and as she gets closer to announcing her decision we are seeing the criticism ranch up of potential candidates. shapiro is ho is jewish over he wrote saying that palestinians could not establish a peaceful homeland because they were too, quote. battle-minded, unquote. but key benefit from thinks relationship with former president obama? the "new york times" says the two have been close since # 2007 which when shipper, a state representative backed obama is not looking to put his thumb on the scale. meantime kelly sparks speculation that he might be out of contention when he released a

post on x sunday saying his mission is serving arizonans. he quickly deleted that post writing in part i learned when your country asks you to serve you always answer the call. former president trump says he doesn't care who harris picks. meantime his own running mate j.d. vance facing attacks as well which branch is brushing off here he is with maria bartiromo on sunday morning futures. >> i actually take their criticism as a badge of honor. of course the media is going to attack the people they fear the most. the media is going to attack the people who have k. most effectively bring president trump's message to a broader intawt of the electorate. i grew up as a poor kid. i didn't come from a political or wealthy family. >> harris split seven battleground states kicks off in philadelphia tomorrow. >> steve: indeed. madeleine, thank you very much. the conventional wisdom is given the fact that before joe biden dropped out. the joe biden campaign camped him pretty much any time he

would go out of town i would go to pennsylvania. because pennsylvania was a must win state. so the conventional wisdom is even though there are new people in the campaign somebody new at the topic the guy who runs pennsylvania because they need pennsylvania. what is interesting in the last 48 hours the number of donors and activists have come out and said how much they don't like governor shapiro. because, a up in of them say and this is in the "new york times" this morning progressives and other party activists say shapiro and kelly are too conservative on key issues. they are coming out with other people. they are talking a little bit about pete buttigieg as being pushed by a major donor group andy beshear more centrist contributors and more liberal people. if you find somebody who is kind of in the middle it's andy beshear they say.

>> ainsley: it depends on who the voter. does the voter pay attention to the vp pick? they usually are voting for the presidential pick. but we have seen that the vp really matters. we saw that over the last four years. tim walz, they say, is the most progressive out of the tom 3. and nancy pelosi really likes him. he served six house terms and that bernie sanders really likes him because he is very progressive and works for the working family. more moderate is mark kelly and josh shapiro. >> brian: tim walz let's reimagine the police in minneapolis. fantastic. and loves social programs. is he not going to help her with the left. he will help her secure the left, which he already has. josh shapiro is being plagued by editorial he wrote in the college newspaper 20-plus years ago. that's a joke. number two is senator fetterman has come out against josh shapiro warning senator fehrman is to kamala harris, his own personal ambitions trump everything else. >> steve: watch your back. >> brian: look out for him.

he sounds like barack obama. barack obama has been a mentor of his. they are in constant contact. so, if you are think about this, for 20 years barack obama has really backed kamala harris. and now we find out about this relationship with josh shapiro. and as attribute to barack obama he decided to talk like him which is an interesting way to salute somebody for supporting you. so that's good. but unions don't love josh shapiro. they just seem to like beshear and they like walz better. so good luck with that. >> steve: one of the reasons shawn fain. >> they don't like kelly either. >> steve: shawn fain who runs the uaw has a problem with shapiro's support of go school vowrches. which a lot of people do. >> brian: we don't want poor kids getting money to go to good schools. >> ainsley: meanwhile republicans love school choice. >> brian: totally mischaracterized it shawn fain what school vouchers are. only thing it's bad for for teachers unions. more kids make a choice instead

of going to the public school they have to do. >> ainsley: the money will follow the child. >> brian: yes. we don't want that. >> ainsley: i bent to senator on fry da to sit down with usha vance the wife of j.d. vance running as vice president with donald trump. this is our first time talking to her since he was announced as vp. she is a lovely person. we went inside their home and spent a long time with her. we talked about their children and why they decided to got political route when they didn't have to. both very write. yale law students. how they fell in love and coming to -- his military experience. we also had to ask those tough questions about comments that have come out recently. j.d. vance talked about childless women the cat ladies and we asked her what he meant by that listen. >> in 2021 j.d. said we are effectively run by a bunch of childless cat ladies. when it became controversy what

is your reaction. the reality is j.d. made a quip. he made service he wanted to make that was substantive. i wish sometimes people would talk about those things. and that we would spend a lot less time just sort of going through this three-word phrase. or that three-word phrase. what he was saying it can be really hard to be a parent in this country. sometimes our policies are designed in a way that make it even harder. and we should be asking ourselves why is that true? what is it about our leadership and what is it think about the world that makes it hard to the parents. >> ainsley: what do you say to the women offended or hurt by that. >> j.d. absolutely at the time and today would never ever ever want to say something to hurt someone who was trying to have a family who really, you know, struggling with that and i also understand there are a lot of other reasons why people may choose not to have families. many of those reasons are very good. i think what i would say is let's try to look at the real conversation is he trying to have and engage with it and

understand for those of us who do have families. for the many of us who want to have families and for whom it's really hard, what can we do to make it better? what can we do to make it easier to live in 2024 and live a very full life that isn't just professional. that also has this kind of rich, personal life and community behind it. >> ainsley: so she was saying, basically. it was great answer. she is saying, look, he is not putting down someone who can't have children or who chooses not to. many people decide to do that for many different reasons and that's okay. she is just saying she wants policies -- it sounds like he wants policies to promote families as well and make sure all the policies are good no matter if you have children or if you don't. >> brian: yeah. i mean, that was a substantive answer to that and also, i never thought about this. when you are a parent you start looking at child care, tax credits, and you start looking at things differently. and also, you believe in the

promise of the country. a lot of people with the green new deal were saying because of climate change and what have you i don't want to have kids because i think the world is going to end. and he thought that was the wrong mindset. >> steve: of course. evidence came to promise first time he was on our program was when he was promoting his book "hillbilly elegy." life. you got into the mother but not the father which we don't hear about a lot. >> she said he made amentdz with his father. his sphere a really good guide he said which i thought was lovely. talked about what j.d. is like as a father. listen to this. >> you see different scenario with individuals who had similar child hoods. usually, they fall back into the same patterns as their parents. has he taken his childhood experiences and just made fatherhood a wonderful experience for his family? >> well, i mean, i think that he uses his childhood as both a

positive and negative example, right he? knows what it feels like not to have a father who is there all the time and really involved. so he and his father did actually reconcile and his father was a very good man. and so that, i think, is just the driving motivation in his life. there is nothing that he cares about more than being there for his kids. he wakes up after a really late night of travel, he wakes up at 6:00 a.m. to make sure they have some elaborate breakfast the next day. is he just determined to be there for them. >> steve: that's the great thing about talking to his wife. you learn a lot about him that we don't know. >> ainsley: it was really sweet when she talked about his childhood and how he was raised by so many prominent or strong women. she said he loves family. basically that's what he just loves coming home to his family. we saw him. he was there for a brief second. and he was very polite and very nice. i really like them. i like them a lot. >> brian: little by little we will see their whole house.

lawrence was in -- what room were you in. >> ainsley: the living room. >> brian: where was lawrence? >> ainsley: in the same room. they were all three sitting on that sofa. >> brian: diverse room. totally different. >> steve: i recognized those drapsz. you sat down for a long time with her and we have got a great big like 15-minute segment coming up very shortly. >> ainsley: yes we do. yes. we talk about her life. her education. his life, how they met. how they fell in love. and embraced on the stage at the convention. they are madly in love. they really help each other out and they are a team. >> steve: thank you for going to cincinnati. >> ainsley: thank you it was a lot of fun. thank you to the vance family for allowing us in. >> steve: indeed. all right. >> ainsley: something effecting a lot of people down south. fox hurricane alert. hurricane doubly is starting to make heading to the big bend area where we saw a cat 3 last year.

>> janice: popular area for hurricanes to make landfall. not a heavily populated area, flight we are looking at handful eminent right now. it's the lowest pressure point that they measure the national hurricane center as it makes its way on shore. we are talking about a landfall right now within this hour. hurricane warnings along the big bend, hurricane watches as far south as sarasota because it's a large lumbering storm and bringing in a lot of gulf of mexico moisture. the problem is it's going to stall in the next couple of days and it will not have any steering currents and that's part of two of this storm that we are going to be following and potentially catastrophic for areas like georgia and south carolina. there are some of the wind gusts a 10-foot storm surge, that's overtop of me, over top of low lying areas. dangerous and potentially catastrophic. the hurricane models that we look at. and after day three, there is so. uncertainty and it looks like

the storm stalls out and that's why we are so concerned for areas across georgia and south carolina. this could potentially be 30 inches of rain. 30 inches of rain which would cause incredible damage. you know, you don't typically see 18 to 24, 24 to 30 inches of rainfall short period of time for this vulnerable area. talking to ainsley who has a lot of family in region, you have to listen to your local officials, but you also have to decide for the safety of yourself and procedure property and your family, you know, i do make that decision now? because this is going to happen and where is that 30 inches of rain going to fall? millions of people in this area? and that's the big concern. >> steve: going to fall on the low country and a lot of flooding. >> ainsley: usually the parking garages will allow you for free to move your car to the upper level. charleston sea level we get flooded a lot downtown charleston. >> steve: look out.

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♪ ♪ >> brian: where does the time go? it is time for the 76th annual butler farm show. it begins today on the same property where former president trump survived assassination attempt more than three weeks ago. matt finn joins us live from butler with the latest on the investigation. matt? >> matthew: brian, on friday, the acting directors of the secret service ron roe said that the secret service sniper team did not have communication new report from "the washington post reveals how poor the communication might have been between be local and federal agencies. according to encrypted radio transcripts on july 13th at 5:4. a local counter sniper here in p.a. said just an fyi, we had a younger white male, long hair,

lurking around the agr meeting. he was viewed with a range finder sighting the stage. we lost sight of him. that message was apparently referencing the shooter thomas crooks who ultimately pulled off the near assassination of former president trump while killing one man and injuring others there has been public outcry over why no secret service workers have been fired or suspended just yet. i spoke with republican congressman mike kelly. this is his district. is he on the special dhs task force that is investigating the july 139 shooting. >> american people have a right to know and we have a tremendous responsibility to find out for them. i don't want to talk about innuendo where somebody said something to him or a secret note from somebody. we are going to do the deep dive that is necessary people on the ground what they went through and then how did you prepare for this? >> and congressman kelly is actually urging everyone to take a breath. he promises the task force will repeatedly visit this site and

give the american people answers. steve? >> steve: all right. matt finn live in pennsylvania. matt, thank you. meanwhile, one leading democratic voice warning his own party to curb your enthusiasm around kamala harris and the run for the white house. >> have a lot of momentum if you do look at the polling this is still a tight race. >> there is natural exuberance on the right side of the aisle right now because there was despair for some period of time about what november was going to look like. now people feel like there's a chance. it is absolutely trump's race to lose right now. >> steve: axios political reporter stef kight joins us right now. stef, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> steve: axelrod went on to say right now trump is ahead and ahead in most battleground states. they are close. the states can be won by either. so what looked like joe biden was going to lose, those states now, it's a horse race. >> yeah.

i mean, there is no question the mood swing has been dramatic, even from just a few weeks ago when axios and others were reporting that there were democratic lawmakers essentially resigned to a trump presidency up ahead. and so there is certainly been a dramatic shift in how democrats, in particular, view this race. they feel that, you know, biden stepping aside and kamala harris becoming, you know, the nominee really gives them at least a chance. the reality is you look at the polls and it's still very, very close. i will say enthusiasm matters. that was one of the biggest reasons people were concerned about biden. they want to have democrats eager to turn out. that enthusiasm level is going to matter and i encourage people to turn out in november which could matter. there is still a long way to go. and kamala harris is going to have to answer questions moving forward. >> steve: absolutely about policy. her policy and joe biden's used to be pretty much on the same page but now she said you know that stuff that i used to think, i don't think that anymore because i want to win.

speaking of winning, you guys at axios has a new item at the top it. talks about kamala harris is eyeing a broader path to victory than president biden's 2024 map. it says an army of enthused volunteers and piles of cash, harris' entry could put georgia, arizona, north carolina, back in play forcing trump to spend in the states he considered safe. and you go on to say in the item in axios, in arizona, the harris campaign stef mayors. mayor giles of mesa, arizona. while they have been so poor on the where their polling they are bringing out border state mayors saying yeah, kamala harris is doing a good job. >> yeah. we have seen the kamala harris campaign start to create their own playbook.

right? they are going to maybe follow some of what the biden campaign was doing. she is a new candidate with new strength, and we are starting to see shifts in the polls among who is more supportive of kamala harris, including voters of color, younger voters, people who were starting to move away from the democratic ticket and towards trump are now coming back around, at least so far. early polls indicate that they are much more willing to get behind kamala harris. not going to change the kind of state that they're going to be going for and looking at sun belt states as opportunities where just a few weeks ago. again, democrats were not looking at these states very favorably. and we are seeing kamala harris go on offense, even on issues that have been the current administration's biggest headache including on the border. we have seen them hit back with ads saying she is the one who supports, you know, locking up cartel members that she is for border security. we are seeing them go on offense on that issue as well. and i think that is, you know,

an acknowledgment that is going to be one of the biggest issues between now and november. >> steve: biggest issue for kamala harris is announcing her running mate. i know you have been working the phones over the weekend it. looks like it's going to be shapiro, right? >> it does look library pennsylvania when you look at pennsylvania ad spend nag state recently. the two presidential campaigns have spent nearly i think more than double on ads just in pennsylvania compared to the next swing state, michigan. both campaigns see that as the state to win. that could determine who has control of the white house after november. and so, anything that the harris campaign can do to give them an edge in that state it's something they are going to be taking very seriously. >> steve: all right. we can't wait. stef kight joining us from axios. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> steve: you bet. it is 6:30 here in new york herk

city. in three hours wall street opens and today, carley, is a bad day to look at your 401(k). >> carley: pandemonium. a fox business alert. nasdaq, dow futures all plummeting this morning after last week's weak jobs report. nasdaq suffering the worst drop following more than 4 her sent this morning. this all comes as japan's stock index suffered its worst day in nearly 40 years. there is also concerns the u.s. will enter a recession and also added worry over a wider war in the middle east causing all this chaos on wall street. three more americans have been arrested in turks and caicos. abc news reporting they were arrested after ammunition was discovered in their luggage. no other details about their arrests have been released. five other americans arrested on the small caribbean island nation on similar charges this year. how about this? golf star scott j scheffler

winning olympic gold in paris shooting a 9 under with six birdies on the back nine big win. scheffler getting emotional after they played the stars and stripes ♪ [national anthem] [cheers and applause] >> carley: wow. scheffler said after the round that he takes tremendous pride in representing his home country. what a year for scottie scheffler capping it off with olympic gold. >> steve: and i get it, too. because, when you are there, you are working for your home country and when they play that song -- >> carley: get to stand on the highest podium and hear your national anthem that's an amazing moment that he will never forget. his little daughter was there just born with his wife. >> steve: not smart betting

against scottie scheffler he has had a very good year. carley, thank you very much. >> carley: you are welcome. >> steve: ainsley sat down with usha vance for a "fox & friends" interview. usha shares the best advice she has received since her family's major life change of trump becoming trump's running mate. >> wonderful friends, many of whom i have known since i was very, very little and they have just been here for us. we know what matters to us in our personal and family lives. focusing on that i think helps weather all these ups and downs. ♪

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here is part 1 of the "fox & friends" exclusive interview. ♪ >> ainsley: so, usha, thank you so much for sitting down with us and letting us come into your beautiful home. >> thank you. we are really happy to have you here. >> great. thank you. your life has changed dramatically over the course of the last few weeks. how are you dealing with that? how is your family? >> well, i think search doing really well. it's been such an adventure. obviously this is like nothing we have done before. everyone has just been really kind since we started this. there have been so many people volunteering to help us. help us understand how to do everything. i can't thank people enough for that. >> ainsley: what has been the biggest adjustment? life has changed a lot. >> yeah. the secret service is a big change. i have to say they have been amazing. they have really taught us an incredible amount over the last couple of weeks how to live with a security detail and all of that. that is certainly a change. we have code names now. our kids had a lot of fun with that. >> ainsley: were they able to select their own. >> they were.

>> ainsley: when you started dating j.d. you met in law school. did you ever think this is where your path would take the two of you? >> oh, no way. that really wasn't on my mind at the time. >> ainsley: you never discussed politics. >> we talked about the things we were interested. in we talked about the issues of the day or things like that. but, planning a life like that was not on the horizon. i was planning to become a lawyer and practice he at one point was planning to do the same thing. and then we talked about having a family. and about where we would like to live and how we would like to spend our time and all of those sorts of things. from the before he announced his senate candidacy through his senate candidacy we had a lot of serious conversations because we do have three children. and giving them a stable, normal, happy life and upbring something something that is the most important thing to us. >> ainsley: the weekend before the convention, we saw donald trump on stage and he was shot and then a few days later he announces j.d. as his running mate. i'm sure that had to be hard for

you. how did you get through that? >> yeah. well, i mean, it was obviously terrible and i'm really grateful that president trump was all right at the end of it and, of course are, he had the secret service detail looking out for him and able to get off the stage. just seeing that was incredibly shocking, i think, for everyone. from a personal perspective, i guess i try not to worry too much about that. we have been really lucky, the people who are here they are just amazing. and i don't know how they do what they do. the secret service detail. so, i just trust in the fact that most penal -- the vast majority of people out there would never think of doing anything like that. and there are a lot of people who have our backs. >> ainsley: some political families decide to keep their children out of the press or even off the stage at conventions or at inaugurations. have you all talked about that? what do you think you will do with the children?

>> we have talked about that. they weren't very visible at the convention. they were off sightseeing in milwaukee which they loved. we will continue to keep them -- let them have their lives as children which i think they really deserve. and let them spend lots of time with their father and if that's sometimes seen by other people, great. and if it's other times private, great. but i don't think we expect to make them a real feature of any of this. >> ainsley: it was report that you had represented j.d. with his convention speech and all wrote it in the hotel room and that he helped you with yours? >> i actually just wrote mine without his help because i wanted him to hear it for the first time when i got down there to say it to him. we do all sorts of things like that together. in this case he worked on it by himself but i listened to parts of it and gave him my thoughts about where i thought, you know, buy thought he might tweak this or that or thought it was missing something or a family story he might want to convey. maybe he had forgotten add that

one. in that sort of thing. that's really fun. that felt like a lucky opportunity. >> you did a great job at the convention. your speech was beautiful. how did you prepare for that? what was it like to be on national television and throne into the spotlight thens of thousands of people. >> definitely nervous. i was definitely nervous when i found out about it. of course we didn't know we were going to be there a moment of nervousness, a little bit can i get out of this? i don't know if this is a great idea. the morning, actually, of those remarks, of the introduction, i sat down and just started writing what i would like to say. and that really helped. once i had this opportunity to put on paper the way that i felt about j.d., and get to say something about him that other people couldn't say, then it all kind of evaporated. so it was kind of fun at that point to think i'm going to go say these things and let people know what i think about him and why he is so special?

>> ainsley: what about the ups and downs of politics? are you prepared for that this is a huge role. have you talked to melania? have you gotten advice from anyone. >> i have gotten advice from various friends who found themselves unexpectedly in the spotlight or honestly faced crises other or other situations that changed their plans for their lives. we have wonderful friends. many of whom i have known since i was very very little and they have just been here for us. we know what matters to us in our personal lives and our family lives. so focusing on that, i think, helps weather all of these ups and downs. >> ainsley: what is some of the advice they have given you. >> one really good piece of advice that someone gave me not to read the news that much. it's not burying your head in the sand. j.d. is out there and thinking all sorts of things, i think he deserves to have someone in his life that hears it straight from him and not what somebody else is saying about him. i think that helps. >> ainsley: what about the

negative press? how does that effect you? >> that can be hard. you know, times -- sometimes i don't see it all and sometimes i do see it and i look at it and think wow, this is not the j.d. i know. this is not accurate. and other times it might spawn discussions or thoughts about what we should do next or how we should live. but, i think we have been doing this for a little while. grown accustomed to it and grown thick skin. i tried not to let it effect the way that i live. >> ainsley: there are a few comments out there that i have to ask you about. in 2021 j.d. said we are effectively run by a bunch of childless cat ladies taking aim at government leaders that don't have children. what was your action? >> i took a minute to look and actually see what he had said and try to understand what the context was and all that which is something i really wish people would do a little more often. the reality is he made quip in making a point he wanted to the make that was substantive it.

had actually meaning. and i just wish sometimes that penal would talk about those things and that we would spend a lot less time just sort of going through this three-word phrase or that three-word phrase. what he was really saying it can be really hard to be a parent in this country. sometimes our policies are designed in a way that make it even harder. and we should be asking ourselves why is that true? what is it about our leadership and the way that they think with the world that makes it hard sometimes for parents? that's the conversation that i really think we should have. and i understand why he was saying that. >> ainsley: what do you say to the women who will offended or hurt by that? >> i think i would say, first of all, that j.d. absolutely at the time and today would never ever ever want to say something to hurt someone who was trying to have a family who really, you yu know, was struggling with that he made that clear at the time. he has made that clear today. and we have lots of friends who have been in that position. it is challenging and never ever

anything that anyone would want to mock or make fun of. i understand there are a lot of other reasons why people may choose not to have families. many of those reasons are very good. i think what i would say is let's try to look at the real conversation is he trying to have and engage with it and understand for those of us who do have families, for the many of us who want to have families and for whom it's really hard, what can we do to make it better? what can we do to make it easier to live in 2024? >> ainsley: so, issue shah, how hard is it when you read in the newspaper you have a friend in law school sophia nelson who attended your wedding. she transgender, she a public defender in detroit. she spoke out last week and she said j.d. hates the police. that j.d. had told her that he hates the police and he felt like minorities were being treated unfairly. will you explain that to us?

does he hate the police? did he say something like that? >> um, well i haven't looked very closely at what their email correspondence was so i don't know exactly what it said. j.d. certainly does not hate the police. i think that is clear through his career and before, you know, he maybe had a negative interaction once or twice and made, you know, a remark like that. i don't know. but, since then and always as long as i have known him he has had a great deal of respect for them and everything they do to keep us safe. yes, it is hard to know that sometimes politics comes in the way of friendships and, you know, we -- i think j.d. made this clear in his own response. it is hurtful and it is sad. and the only thing that i would say is that we've both been in a position of having people speculate bus a lot and draw a lot of conclusions based on sometimes information that isn't even true. and i don't want to do the same about other people and these are people that i care about.

i can't speak to why they say what they say or do what they do but i care about them and wish them well. >> ainsley: the left is busy attacking both of you now for past comments you had made about trump. idiot if you oat voted for him and might be america's hitler. later he said he was wrong. he admitted and this said he didn't think that donald trump would be a good president at the time. but he said he ended up being a great president. how do you feel now about donald trump. >> you know, i have had it several years since then to kind of understand what it is that he is out to do. honestly what j.d. is out to do. we have a lot of really good conversations about that. and if i didn't feel that the ticket, you know, the trump-vance ticket was able to do some real good for the country, then i wouldn't be here supporting him and j.d. wouldn't have down this. that's where we are today. >> ainsley: what about politics, do you and j.d. agree on everything politically? >> oh, i mean, no.

we're two different people. we have lots of different background and interests and things like that. so we come to different conclusions all the time. but, that's part of the fun of being married. and what i never doubt about j.d., even when i disagree about this or that is his intention. what it is that he really wants to do. and i really trust that in him. sometimes he might say i think this and i think that. and i think that probably makes things better for him and certainly for me. >> ainsley: does he ever change his opinions because of your advice. >> he treats what i say seriousness and respect. that becomes a part of the way that he thinks about things as is true for me. the way that he talks about things and the conclusions he documents really shape the way that i think about things. so, there's a nice give and take that i think it's pretty happy. happy one. >> ainsley: let's talk about j.d.'s life. you met in law school. >> um-huh.

>> ainsley: he was in the marines and then went to undergrad and law school that's where you met. >> we met in totally normal circumstances. we were just friends. all our classes together in the first semester. as time passed it eventually we started dating. but, it was a very sort of normal, quiet. >> ainsley: who spoke to who first. >> went to j.d. for me first but i wasn't too far behind. >> ainsley: these really cute. did you study together and help each other get through law school. >> we did. we did a lot of stuff together so we were always hanging out. >> ainsley: how about the military experience in the marines how did that shape his life. >> he learned basic skills how to live and carry himself as an adult that he hadn't had before. there was that i think the process of becoming almost a family with people from all around the country, many of whom who just radically different background than him. those are some his best friends today. >> ainsley: i know the importance of family and society has been part of his platform.

can you explain that? why is that important to him. >> i think it comes from his background. it comes from the fact that he knows that he would not be anywhere near where he is today if he hadn't had family members looking out for him every stretch the way. i think it comes from seeing my family and knowing that the stability and calm that i provide in our family life comes from, you know, all of the support that i had just the faith that things would be okay because i had people behind me. i think that j.d. needs family to thrive. i do. i think that maybe the most important thing is to know that he has people who everyday when he comes back love him and care about him. and know who he is. and frankly, that is the most important thing. and that's true for me, too. i mean, that's how i get through my days and how i have been able to have the life that i have. >> ainsley: you know him better than anyone. and america is just learning about j.d. vance. what do you want them to know

about your husband? >> i think i want them to know that he is a real person. you know, he is a wonderful father. he is an excellent husband. he's my best friend. he is funny. he has all sorts of dorky interests that, you know, anyone of our age could relate to. you look at the news sometimes and you just she caricature of a human. and he is a really good person. and i wish that people sometimes would pause and actually listened to the words that he says try to understand their meaning and their purpose. i think he really cares about having a good conversation about actually changing things for people who have had a very hard time in this country. and changing it for the better. letting them have the kinds of lives that he has been lucky enough to have himself. that's what i wish people knew about him. >> steve: that was great. >> brian: yeah. >> steve: she was very open and honest and likeable. >> ainsley: isn't she.

what did you think, brian? >> brian: great questions by the way. this is a huge help to him. it shows the human side but also shows that they are willing to take the hard questions. i thought it was great. >> ainsley: thank you. >> brian: finding out a lot about her. can you see how experience she'd is. she might be new to politics but she can handle. >> ainsley: she is smart. she a lawyer. i have great respect for their family. i have great respect for the wife when you interview a candidate spouse, could be a husband or wife. they didn't sign up for this. the spouse did. so i'm really glad that she invited us into her home so we could all get to know her. america wants to know what she is like. what their relationship is like. it's always nice interview. >> steve: they have only been in the spotlight in this kind of way for a couple of weeks. >> ainsley: right. >> steve: you know, she had great answers to some really hard questions. >> ainsley: right. not just for selfish reasons. i'm glad she decided to come out very quickly.

>> steve: she explained everything we wanted to know. >> ainsley: do an interview very quickly. two weeks too. this thank you to the vance family. >> brian: more scrutiny on the vice president pick kamala harris doing is it. compare the two nonstop. perfect timing for them. great job. >> ainsley: thanks, brian. that was part one. we will play one throughout this show and part 2 airs tomorrow. >> steve: all right. very good. can't wait. all right. meanwhile, the big story for our friends down south. hurricane debby is making landfall as the a category 1 storm in florida's big bend at this moment. live reports from the region coming up. ♪

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