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national security meeting alongside vice president harris. it comes as iran issues issues a chilling threat as hezbollah said they launched a drone attack against israel previewing a possible larger attack an all-out war. hello i am john roberts in washington and guess who we welcome to washington today. >> sandra: great to see appeared good to be back at the studio in washington and good to be with you. i am sandra smith in washington. this is "america reports." israel's defense minister is visiting with the israeli air force. it is happening today. they are briefing them on air defense capabilities in that region. the u.s. deployed ships and fighter jets to the middle east as axios is reporting secretary of state antony blinken warranted g7 allies and iranian attack could happen as soon as today. >> john: fox team coverage free. lieutenant general keith kellogg and the threat of a widening war. >> sandra: let's get right to alex hogan live in tel aviv. israel for us at this hour. what do we know?

>> hi john and sandra. we've been hearing sirens in the northern part of the country as well as the southern part of the country as israel feels attacks from hamas and hezbollah but it is bracing for what could be a potential iranian attack, one that i ron says will happen. >> the islamic republic of iran will definitely take serious and determined in action with strength determination and firmness and ensuring its security and punishing the aggressor. >> today israel's defense minister visited troops briefing them on air defense capabilities and different areas and how quickly switched gears to fight back. at the same time israel is leaning on its allies hoping that same coalition will come to its aid like it did in april when iran launched more than 300 drones and wrestles toward israel in one night alone. as the u.s. is bolstering its military footprint in the region to support israel's defense, today u.s. general michael

carella is here in israel meeting with the chief of general staff of israel talking security and strategy. meanwhile in gaza to today hamas militants fired 15 militants to rockets into is really territory and more than 40 were killed ons and one in hospital areas that the idf claims were being used as command centers and weapons manufacturing spaces. there is new violence today along israel's border with lebanon. the idf says it took out a hezbollah weapons storage facility after days of escalating tensions that we have watched and countries around the world are sounding the alarm and urging their citizens to leave lebanon. we've seen airports in beirut continued to pack up as people are trying to get on whatever flight they possibly can out of the country as quickly as possible. new tension tonight also with i ron warning other airlines to not fly over its airspace.

>> sandra: alex hogan and tel aviv. thank you. >speak a let's bring in lieutenant general keith kellogg. former national security advisor. i thought this was interesting. i want to get your interpretation. competing headlines and wonders publication. the times of israel. one headline says iran set to dismiss recalls even if it sparks work. the competing headline. iran claims it does not want to escalate regional tensions but must punish israel. which one is it? >> john and sandor thank you for having me. what israel may have done is israel may have set a level of deterrence that we have not seen for a long time. here's what i mean by that. let me clear the dots. what they did recently by going downtown and killing the leader of hamas was amazing. then they killed the number two guy in hezbollah. then they went down two weeks ago after losing one israeli

they went down and destroyed all of those infrastructures down in yemen. recently the iranians attack prevented major damage. they went back and attacked. the israelis took out all the air defense site which is one of the top nuclear sites. it is shown that israel can really reach out and touch you. so the supreme leader of iran has a problem. he is reaching. it's not very good and they lost a lot of money years ago. they are saying do i want to risk this by going all in knowing that israel has been really willing to respond using complex military operations which they have done by going into yemen or do i just want to give a pinprick and say it's over and done with trick he has a big dilemma because i think if he comes back hard on israel it's game over. they will go after them all the way downtown to tehran and if i was israel i would say supreme

leader, you are at risk. your nuclear facilities are at licorice. we can reach out and touch you and go there or will he step back and say they have shown a level of strength maybe i don't want to go there. that's why you're getting conflicting signals. i don't think they've made a decision but either way, i would not bet against israel at all because they have the capacity, the capability, more than anything. >> sandra: we wonder which way iran is leading at this hour as we do put up the scoop from axios on the scream as far as timing of the attack. lincoln said that they could attack within the most to next 24 hours which putting the work on alert. u.s. allies are trying to generate last-minute diplomatic pressure on iran and hezbollah to minimize retaliation as much as possible pure he stressed that limiting the impact of the strike is the best chance to prevent all-out war. seems all-out preparations are being made for whatever could be happening. >> the real person that makes

this is the supreme leader of iran. where does he want to go. i think he is having second thoughts because what israel has done is something we have not done. they put respect and fear into iran. i think he has a big problem right now and i'm kind of hoping and i'm cautiously optimistic that they will do a pinprick like they did with us after we killed sole money. they went after the airbase but they hit dirt and we had some guys injured but only through basic concussions. they told us in advance we need to respond but we will respond in this way because i think he knows if he responds heavy, if they kill a single israeli, they have a major problem. >> john: if they throw a rocket or a missile into downtown tel aviv or maybe the western part of jerusalem, it will be a big problem. we had up on the screen there and maybe we can put it back the u.s. forced posture in the region. do you think it will act as a deterrent or will it simply serve to help defend israel if iran and hezbollah decide they

launch? >> i don't think it will make much of a difference. we have the teddy roosevelt aircraft carrier down there and here's why. if you have a military force i don't care how good the military forces. if you haven't got the will to use it and the backbone to use it it doesn't mean anything paired their fear is not the united states. their fear is israel is willing to go all out and israel has shown recently in what they have done in the killing of hamas and hezbollah leadership that they are willing to go there and that is what is weighing on the supreme leader. >> sandra: good to see you in person. thank you. >> john: hopefully we won't be going there. speaking of things we are watching closely, allies look at the dow as the market officially opened this morning after a weekend of uncertainty. down 958 points now. the nasdaq and the s&p are also way down as well. fears of a u.s. recession triggering a global sell-off which happens to come a few days after the market hit record territory because of the

anticipation of rate cut. fox business correspondent kelly o'grady live with more. is this a temporary blip or is this something more permanent? >> that's the question. there's a lot of uncertainty and a lot of questions regarding are we entering a recession or is this a market correction we are seeing. to orient you where we are right now. i have it in front of me down 923 for the dow and the s&p down 1:30 six and the nasdaq down 496. that is well off session lows but these are the job reports from last week. unemployment ticked up to 4.3% in addition to adding an anemic 114,000 jobs. it triggers what is known as the sample. without getting bogged down into the details, it has been accurate in defining every recession since the early 70s paired another metric we are watching, goldman sachs updated to 25%. they still say the risk is limited but it does underscore

the concern from economists is as collating. the big tech sector is getting really hard hit today. nvidia is down close to 6%. one line of thought here as these names are beneficiaries of big and flows with the ai hype. a lot of folks i'm talking to her saying the sell-off is more of a correction. these evaluations were already too big and so we are seeing some profit taking. another line of thought is if we are indeed approaching a recession you move away from the gross jobs. it's not just happening here in the u.s. global markets are reeling as well peered the japanese market closed down over 12% which was the worst day for that index since 1987 and if you are a cryptocurrency junkie like me, that should over $500 billion in the last 24 hours. investors are concerned there is a flight to save assets that we are saying but we are well off session lows. i think it is too early to determine if this recession fear is real but we will see how the week goes. >> john: and the day is so long. appreciate it.

thank you. >> sandra: another update on the market shortly. in meantime, coming up, my exclusive sit down with supreme court justice neil gorsuch it's in a rear interview at the supreme court. in a wide-ranging interview we talk on the state of the republic, his new book overruled and his response to recent calls for sweeping reforms to the supreme court. here is some of that interview from earlier today when i asked him about presidential immunity. >> sandra: obviously this is happening and you are writing this book during crucial times for the supreme court. i'm sure you are enjoying a little break but major decisions came down of which you are part of the presidential immunity ruling. i wonder, if any message, you could share with us on the unprecedented nature of the court handling something like that? >> you gave us a very hard question. it's the first time in american history that one presidential administration was seeking to bring criminal charges against a

predecessor. we had to go back and look at what sources were available to us. there is some. you can impeach a president if he does something unlawful. you can enjoin or stop the conduct of his officials peered you could go to court and get an injunction. those are two things we can all agree on. we also agree that no man is above the law in his private conduct. even a president can be prosecuted for speeding. his private conduct, he is like everyone else. what happens when he leaves office? there is a president of the united states supreme court called nixon versus fitzgerald in which the courts said will cases cannot be brought against a president presumptively in his official capacity after he leaves office. why? that would chill him from exercising the powers and duties of president while he is president. he would be overwhelmed.

his political enemies would bring suits against him forever more. the court held that about 50 years ago. all the court did in this case was simply apply that same president an idea to the criminal context. >> sandra: grateful for the justice for the sit down earlier today. we hit on a whole lot more. obviously that was a big moment to hear that supreme court justice weigh in on the presidential immunity ruling. a lot more from that interview coming up as he just wrote this book called overruled. it's really interesting. his passion is today get into what he says is the human toll of too much law. often times we talk about the economic toll of too much regulation and too much law in this country. this is about the human toll. in a bit he will dig into the story about a fisherman and his wife down in florida and a lawsuit that changed their life forever. justice orchards gives us that story in his own words and just a bit and it's a remarkable telling of evs

who are suffering from too much law. >> john: aside from leading, that's the most i've heard any supreme court justice talked. >> sandra: and more coming up. >> john: we are awaiting state department briefing as the u.s. monitors and anticipated iranian attack against israel. live coverage just as soon as that briefing kicks off. >> sandra: debby is bearing down on florida bringing devastating storm surge to the golf course to. >> this storm has produced and will likely produce significant flooding events. when you have flood situations that is the number one way where we will see fatalities.

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>> sandra: earlier today i sat down with supreme court justice neil gorsuch and a rare interview at the supreme court. i asked about his new book overruled in which he writes about the human toll of too much law. >> sandra: just a gorsuch. thank you for having us today. it's a pleasure to be here. you are new tells the stories of everyday americans and how the sheer volume and complexity of our laws and our legal system are taking over the lives of everyday people. what are we doing about it and why did you feel compelled to write and tell their stories? >> i have been a judge now for about 18 years and i just keep seeing cases where ordinary decent hardworking americans found themselves being swallowed up by law. that they didn't see coming. and that they couldn't have anticipated and their lives were ruined.

also done some wonderful things to try and address it but people like john and sandra gates, fisherman in florida, marty han a magician in missouri, the hemingway museum in florida, bobby in colorado. i just thought it was important to explore what is going on in our law. what has happened in my lifetime that is changed in our law and it turns out quite a lot. the number of laws has simply exploded. that's the short answer peered the longer answer is you are probably a federal criminal, sandra. some of my friends in the academy estimate that americans commit, everyone of us over the age of 18 could be tried for a federal crime. the federal criminal code has more than doubled in my lif lifetime. federal regulations, the federal register used to be 16 pages when it was first produced in the 1930s. it now runs over 60 or 70,000

new pages every single year. >> sandra: how can anyone keep up with that? >> that's my question for the book and what should we as americans do about it. one will judge in washington can't address the problem. it's a problem for we the pe people. >> sandra: there is a common theme having read both of your books that you've written down during your term here at the supreme court. you write about a profound decline in trust in one another and perhaps this is the result of that. how did we get here and what is your message about the state of the country today considering your writings in your first book, a republic if you can keep it. how are we doing? >> the declaration has three really profound statements to us. they have resonated true his history. we all have inalienable rights peered we are all created equal. we have the right to govern ourselves. that's our report card. our national report card. and i do think it is worth asking how are we doing on those

fronts today? that's what the book seeks to explore. and i'm really grateful that i had a chance to do it. >> sandra: your labeled a conservative justice. this is a conservative court. to those americans who question what is happening with this institution today, you tell them what. >> first of all, the book is not conservative or liberal. it's a question for all americans. what do we say when we have so many regulations that people like john and sandra gates are caught up in it. the fisherman and his wife. what do we say when one on a 47 americans is now subject to some form of correctional supervision in this country peered when there are more people serving life sentences today than in 1970 was serving a sentence. now you ask about the court. i think the court is doing a pretty good job. i will be honest with you. you ask us to decide the 70

hardest cases in the country every year. cases where the lower courts have disagreed. and there are nine of us. can you get nine of your colleagues to agree on where to go to lunch? and we have been appointed by five different presidents over 30 years. and we are able to reach unanimous judgment in these hard cases about 40% of the time. you hear that? that's the same figure as it was in about 1945 when franklin roosevelt had appointed eight of the nine justices on the supreme court. now you say what about those divided cases? only about half of them are the ones you are thinking about. the others are more scrambled groupings. according to "the new york times" last term in 45% of ideologically divided cases, whatever that means, i agreed with what the times called the liberal resulting. that's the court i know.

and those ideological cases 6-3 is about a third of our docket this last year. that's about the same number as it was in 1945. my experience with this court is nothing changes. >> sandra: which brings me back to so many of these incredible cases that you tell in the book about hair breeders. a magician. wanted to use a bunny in his show. this is a world that might be unrecognizable to many. not too long ago. so has our judicial system gotten too far? can we rein it back? can we bring these laws back? how do we save everyday americans from getting mired down in the judicial system? many are for years and they lose their nest eggs fighting these battles. >> let's take isis brantley the hair operator. an ancient art handed down through her family. one day her salon, she successful doing well.

it's rated. and shut down. why? because she didn't have a barber license. now she says i don't want to cut hair. i don't use knives or scissors or anything like that. i just use my hands. they said you have to go to barber school. it takes three years to go to barber school and a lot of money that she did not have. and of course barber school how much do they teach you about hair braiding? >> sandra: not much. speak of nothing. nothing is the answer peered she loses her home. she is homeless for a period. she fights and she wins the right to hear break. she overcomes the texas licensing system and wins. i know we have problems but i'm an optimist. when i see people like isis bradley standing up for what they know to be right. >> sandra: really enjoyed the conversation with the justice and next hour i will have more from that set down including his thoughts on recent calls it by

president himself for sweeping reforms to the supreme court. >> john: that was fascinating. we know that the magician in missouri had an illegal bunny and the hair prater had no issue. >> sandra: the wife had a knock on the door and she was doing laundry. he tells the story later and he was brought into court three years after a federal official boarded his boat, measured his fish, found that a few of them did not make the required size, threw them back and said come to shore and i will deal with this later and he was accused of switching the fish. anyway. it was an incredible case that went a very, very long time that they ended up winning and the supreme court. his wife said we are not giving appeared we are standing up for what is right and we don't want this to happen to other americans. >> john: i know that you probably never fish switched in your life. may be. i don't know. you go fishing. >> sandra: neither of mine of

long enough. but that's part of the problem. sometimes you are brought into court and the law changes to her right now you would not be guilty of that crime but because they look back ten years and some of these cases, it was incredible conversation and eye-opening for me, someone who is not deep into the law to find out what is happening out there and this is to his point happening to everyday americans. so often we are covering the economic toll. he is talking about the human toll. these real world stories of everyday americans who are paying the ultimate price and so many of them feel like they just want to take this all the way to the supreme court because they know and believe that they are right. >> john: he is a fascinating fella. i like his hair. >> sandra: and it's a privilege and an honor to be there at the supreme court and walk the halls. it is one of our greatest institutions for sure. >> john: we need to remind people of that because there's

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>> john: the state department briefing right now as we await president biden situation room reading with top national security officials on the growing crisis in the middle east. the u.s. says it is prepared for every scenario as an iranian attack on israel appears imminent following the deaths of top officials within hamas and hezbollah last week. >> sandra: okay. it's hurricane debby. i tropical storm blasting across florida. at least four people are now

dead and states are bracing for impact later this week. nicole valdes is reporting live in madison, florida, for us. is the state ready to respond to the damage after the storm moves on? >> governor ron desantis believe so. he says he has been working for the last few days to prepare floridians for the impacts of now tropical storm debby. not a storm that can compare to one that hit the same area about a year ago but still one that has packed a punch flooding already taking place across the sunshine state. right here in madison we are just east of the state capital of tallahassee and we have seen some lower lying local roads already underwater. that is just to name a few. the flooding started really yesterday across the gulf coast of florida and will continue over the next few days. the governor says that he has been in touch with the national guard who is already

stationed more than 3,000 soldiers to be ready to respond to the impacts as well as more than 17,000 linemen to try and get power back up and running. right now we know that power is out for more than 300,000 across the state. the hope is that they won't have to wait days to see the lights come back on after that's impactful storm. >> sandra: we are just taking in all of the sites we are seeing there and we wish the very best for all those affected by this. thank you so much nicole. john. >> john: everything from big tech to consumer stocks getting hit hard as investors run for the hills amid growing signs of a recession. here is the dow down a little more than 900. not as bad as it was earlier in the day and hopefully as good as it will be later in the day. charlie gasparino can tell us what is driving this deep nosedive. i can never figure out the stock market because on july 26th and email went around here at fox that said stocks soar on rate cut bets and today's stocks

cobbler on recession fears. which is it? >> and they are tumbling on rate cuts coming and they are coming. at some point you can talk about rate cuts and this and that. stocks trade on fundamentals in the long term. the fundamentals are now looking increasingly not good and one reason why is the corporate economy and the wall street economy is catching up with essentially the mainstream economy. for four years particularly the last two years we have had fairly significant inflation. inflation to a point that when people were working and they felt like they needed to work more and they were in a horrible mood about it or else joe biden's approval numbers would be a lot higher and they are not. we've had an economic problem no matter how many times you try to papered over and try to spin it with transitory inflation everything is going great. main street didn't feel that great. but everything was okay on wall street. people were buying stocks for a lot of reasons.

now finally the main street economy is catching up with wall street because there is clear evidence now that the consumer is cutting back. the employment outlook is looking weaker. there is less employment. it is a softer job market. all of this factor is that you need for an economy is kicking in and i want to make this totally political but i guarantee this is in people's mind. the fact that donald trump is now losing marginally or not connect with kamala harris which would be a continuation of the biden economic policies is clearly playing some role here because kamala harris if she replicates what joe biden wants to do we are talking about more regulations, taxes, go down the line. stuff that is not good for the economy and we should point out without bias here has not worked for the last four years when you think about it.

>> sandra: jury is out on that. we will see. >> juries out? it's right there on your screen. >> john: you mentioned it earlier. >> sandra: i sat down and talked with john a bit when we got here and we were looking at the stock market and i have shared with you. the betting odds on the lead to win the white house and the stock market as it was going up was tracking the higher probability that trump was going to win back the white house and it's interesting to know that as she gains in enthusiasm and gains in the polls that the stock market is selling off. it's merely an observation. market watchers have to watch everything and that is certainly part of the equation. when it comes to the stock market. hold on. it's a lacking indicator. i'm just wondering what the stock market saw earlier. what they are factoring into the future. >> wait a second.

it's not necessarily a lagging indicator. there was clearly a trump a trade that was put on. it looked like he would run away against sleepy joe biden so to speak. no doubt trump trade but on certain stocks financials. energy stocks. going through the roof. it was powering the market. that trade definitely reversed when biden dropped out and kamala harris got in there and there was this safe use of push by the maiden stream media at her poll numbers went up in the predicted odds got even where kamala harris is a little ahead. there is no doubt that trade has reversed and that is part of this. it's not all of it. there's a lot of things going on and we don't have to get too technical. there's a young carry trade unwinding which is kind of technical and we don't have enough time to explain it but that's going on. there's also a recession for your going on no matter who gets elected. that leads to less corporate

earnings. >> john: all of this was triggered by the jobs report last friday. >> it was baking in before that. >> john: but that's what led to everything. i want to get to this underlying point because buried in the jobs monitors were these factors. the greatest increase in unemployment as people with less than a high school diploma or high school graduates with no or college. the first group unemployment in a year went from 5.3 to 6.7% and the latter group went from 3.3% to 6.6%. that is right there within the sweet spot of blue-collar workers and i'm wondering with all of the rosie talk of how the economy was doing great and american families were prospering, these folks weren't and now they are facing layoffs, greater job loss and the possibility of a recession now. >> and not just that. i think we should point out that prices are still higher than

they were four years ago. the rate of inflation has come down but prices are still very high. right now the american worker, particularly the working class american is looking not just at higher prices where it's hard to take your family out to dinner at applebee's on a friday night but the fact that your job could be at risk. and i say this. you can only spin this so much. for about two years we have been hearing joe biden's okay, nothing is wrong with him. for two years we've been hearing that the economy is great. i will tell you this i've been covering the stuff i covered the financial crisis but something to think about. right before the financial crisis started in sept september 2008, john mccain and sarah palin were ahead of barack obama. they were winning. as soon as that financial crisis hit, it reversed. the party in power during these times of economic tumult never does well.

this is going to have an impact if this continues and it's not just a market, it's the economy. if this continues it will have an impact on november. >> sandra: i knew larry would pick on me for calling the stock market a lagging indicator which he is. >> larry? do you think i'm larry kudlow? >> sandra: our good friend larry is weighing in on me saying that. >> john: he's at applebee's right now. >> sandra: i understand and i know i should've known better to say it in that way. what i'm saying is the way that we watch the stock market, the way that the stock market reacts to the news, i do believe has changed and has evolved from what it once was. >> it is always been a short-term and imperfect in the short term. speech about the markets are incredibly efficient. we can agree. >> they are. they eventually work out right. >> john: that's all the time we have for this tide talk. make sure to join us tomorrow.

>> sandra: thank you charlie and larry. president biden set to meet with top national security officials as tensions between israel and iran may come to a head appeared marc thiessen will join us to break down what may happen next. >> john: plus we may soon learn who vice president kamala harris is running mate will be after she held interviews chemistry sessions with three top contenders yesterday. our political panel is here with the pros and cons of the candidates. stay with us

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who will she select? let's bring on our political panel. jonathan caught former communications director for senator joe manchin. i hope it messed things up there. good to have you both. start us out here. who do you think she will pick? speak out for choices seem limited and shapiro seems to be that superior candidate. he is more moderate, key is where she's trying to go to the center but her vp choice should be your subordinate, not your superior. he has a more talented candidate and performer. a lot of people think he is obama-like. and on top of that there happens to be a war in the middle east. a democratic party has imported that war into its own party. those divisions between pro-palestinian and less let's say pro-israel. they don't want to take that division to the convention.

they want a united party so i think it is tough to pick shapiro. who is the bland choice and this safe choice and they do no harm choice? probably walz. >> john: according to a reuters report it's narrowed down to walz and shapiro. the problem with shapiro ids he was out there in front on the israel matter appeared he also said this back on september 23rd 1993. i know we are going way back. the receipts are out there. palestinians will not coexist peacefully. they do not have the capability to establish their own homeland and make it successful even with the aid of israel and the united states. they are to battle minded to be able to establish a peaceful homeland of their own and they will grow tired of fighting amongst themselves and will turn outside against israel. we found that pretty easily. i'm sure all of the muslim americans and arab americans that are in that area and crucial to kamala harris as a lecturer thinking the same thing. >> i think what's happening

right now as they have the vetting down and they are looking over it and seeing what candidate brings the most and what does not take away the most. j.d. vance i think it had a good rule out for one day and then it has been downhill from there. the harris campaign it has to avoid that. i think they will avoid that because whoever they pick will be a very centrist moderate person who has governed in the middle and they will get a bump from it and go around the country and have a great time. i think they have also done a really good job in elevating a lot of super surrogates. roy cooper, andy beshear, whoever is not picked in this group will be elevated a high enough that they can help hopefully carry estate. mark kelly should spend the next 90 days in arizona campaigning for kamala harris and hopefully that helps. it's unfortunate that this is an issue. if josh shapiro was not jewish, i don't think we would be having this conversation. i think that's pretty awful to have a 2024. >> sandra: we will finish with this. fox news sunday morning futures

on sunday talked to trump and vance and asked him about all of this and here was their take. >> i don't care. let them do whatever. they still want to have open borders. if she picks shapiro she will lose the palestinian vote. >> i think whoever she chooses the problem will be kamala harris as record and kamala harris' policies. the american people are suffering because kamala harris keep making bad decisions. i don't care who she chooses as a running mate. >> sandra: so. >> kamala harris has a lifelong record of being a woman of the left and now she is trying to move toward the center on so many things and what does that make her? that makes her kind of a typical politician. she is going to lead us into the future? that makes her more of the sane and that's the opportunity for trump. she is washington. >> john: and how does she get away from the flip-flops that dog to john kerry and 2,004? >> policy petition spirit she was campaigning and she sees what works. >> john: does she give that

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>> sandra: in moments president biden will be holding a closed-door meeting we are told with his national security team inside the situation room israel facing an imminent threat from iran facing fears of all-out war that will drag the u.s. into a bigger conflict paired hello and welcome ever appeared i'm sandra smith in washington. spewing good to have you here. a good interview you did with justus gorsuch. we will have more from that. i'm john roberts and this is "america reports