her. it is between shapiro and tim waltz, both governors. >> brian: fetterman said he is too into himself. shapiro is too into himself. i warn you not to take him. that's interesting. >> la >> lawrence: waltz came up with the word weird. >> steve: no doubt waltz would be a safer choice. more aligned politically. announcing it officially in we were hoping during our show. it didn't happen. >> ainsley: she picked her political soul mate if it is waltz. they will make this country so left. >> brian: we don't know where she is now on so many issues. >> lawrence: hopefully they'll start asking questions. >> ainsley: look at her record. >> bill: thank you, guys, good morning. big morning of news, 9:00 here in new york.

according to the associated press minutes ago the a.p. says kamala harris made her choice for the undercard an selected minnesota governor tim waltz age 60 to be the vice president nominee. that news breaking now. welcome to our coverage. a big couple of hours coming up here. you have this news breaking on the campaign, major news overseize. i'm bill hemmer, live in new york. welcome back to gillian. walz could boost the vice president's profile and securing parts of the midwest chosen over and above the other frontrunner governor josh shapiro of pennsylvania. let's toss to bryan llenas on the ground awaiting the arrival of the vice president and running mate. they will be there later this afternoon. what can you tell us so far, bryan? >> gillian and bill, that's right. the first rally that vice president kamala harris will have with her now running mate

tim walz will happen in philadelphia at 5:00 p.m. tonight. the first joint rally. the governor of minnesota will be sharing that stage with harris as well as from our understanding pennsylvania's governor josh shapiro, who was also one of the top two finalists for this job. you will have a situation here tonight where they are not only have their first rally together but a chance for the party as well to at least show that they are unified given what has been an interesting 15, 16-day speed through here in trying to pick a vice president. walz is from minnesota. he has an appeal especially to western wisconsin. he is a former high school teacher. he was in the national guard. he is somebody who is known for being plain spoken. he has experience in congress serving as six terms in the

house of representatives and two terms in minnesota. an interesting thing here obviously. this was a pick that was being pushed by progressives, including senator bernie sanders, as well as the united auto workers union who all endorsed walz as the pick over pennsylvania governor josh shapiro. interesting pitfall here could be the fact that he was governor of minnesota during the george floyd riots. he was really attacked by republicans and he even said himself that he could have done a better job during that situation, including calling in the national guard sooner and calling in more national guard troops as the cities were lit on fire during those riots. that will be something to look into. interesting not only in that the fact that tim walz is somebody that emerged as a dark horse. he was somebody that started making the rounds late in this game. he is the one are that coined the attacks against former president trump calling him weird and now a lot of attention

is going to be on the fact that harris decided not to go with pennsylvania's governor josh shapiro. he was the frontrunner here and now he obviously has -- is not being chosen. he was seen as somebody who can really bring in a lot of moderate voters. he could deliver the must-win state of pennsylvania having won it as governor in 2022 by 15 points. but there were some pitfalls. progressives pushing back against shapiro, particularly his stance on school vouchers, his stance sexual harassment case against one of his top aides in his office, and, of course, his stance on israel. progressives were attacking him for being too pro-israel despite the fact his stance was very much in the mainstream with the party. that caused a lot of democrats to come out in his defense saying that it was anti-semitism that was driving that. so you will hear a lot about that in the coming hours and

days why she did not decide to choose shapiro. j.d. vance on hewitt's show the she didn't choose shapiro it would be because of anti-semitism in parts of their party. >> bill: bryan llenas back to you live in philly. kayleigh mcenany joins us in studio. already republicans are saying this is the most extreme ticket in political history. what is your take on tim walz on the under card now? >> a stunning choice. a lot of cheering at mar-a-lago at the moment. tim walz unseated a conservative in congress. he began as a moderate. a radical transformation as soon as he got a trifecta in minnesota. a progressive in sheep's clothing. you look at his record are transgender surgeries for

minors, carbon electrical grid by 2040, driver's licenses for illegal immigrants. abortion policy allows abortion until birth. far to the left of america. as john mccormick pointed out, kamala harris has to do the exact opposite of what tim walz did. he became more progressive. harris is trying to become more moderate. republicans will say you have shed your progressive policies but chose a progressive instead of the guy who out performs donald trump and joe biden in pennsylvania and that man's name is josh shapiro. >> gillian: it could lose jewish voters. what do you think tipped the scales for the campaign? it is a bit of a shock choice. do you think it was an ideology bent or was it based on raw polling? >> to the word coming out of the kamala harris aides it was

chemist tre. i would love to know what obama said to her on the phone. this time four years ago joe biden was having apprehensions about choosing kamala harris. he called obama and expressed reservations to obama. obama said back to him none of that is as important as winning. so i wonder what obama said. if this is a chemistry choice that's fantastic but if you don't make it to pennsylvania avenue in two months the chemistry doesn't matter. i have to believe it was an innate decision how she was feeling. feelings should go out the window. >> walz is 60. came to politics late in life at the age of 42. he was a high school teacher. a high school football coach. with dana and me on this program two weeks ago. he is likable, he carries a smile with just about everywhere he goes. i think maybe the personality characteristics here is probably what sold him with kamala

harris. the question is this. if you win you spend a lot of time with this person. who do you feel comfortable with and want to be around? i think a lot of times the person on the top of the ticket has failed that test. >> that's right. i talked to a former republican congressman who said he is a nice guy. i liked tim walz in congress. maybe there is a belief in the kamala harris campaign he could help with western wisconsin, which shares a media market with minnesota. that he could help in a place like michigan. he is not to be dismissed but it is just leaving a huge wide gaping opening for j.d. vance and donald trump to expose with a progressive record when you try to sell yourself to independents. donald trump is winning among independents. joe biden won them by nine. kamala harris has to play catch-up. >> bill: he had support from bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. you must believe that

republicans will try to exploit that political relationship there. back to the point about pennsylvania. if you are a democrat and electoral college you cannot win the white house unless you win pennsylvania and its 19 electoral votes. as for minnesota, republicans have not won there since 1972. that's richard nixon. >> it's a blue state. you chose a blue state governor. let's say tim walz helps her take her over the line. wisconsin and nevada and arizona along the way. you don't win without pennsylvania. josh shapiro out performed trump by three points in 2016 in pennsylvania. out performed biden by three points and won the gubernatorial race in pennsylvania by 15 points. you make a math choice. i take it to the glenn youngkin choice. maybe he could have helped to take virginia out of the blue column.

she chose not to choose the math choice. in their calculus vp doesn't matter. the chemistry and governing does matter, i guess. >> bill: more to analyze in realtime. >> gillian: let's bring in bret baier to react to the news by phone. initial thoughts off the bat about this choice. >> i think to her point, i think republicans in some corners are rejoicing. they thought that josh shapiro would be a specific challenge for them in pennsylvania. i can tell you dave mccormick, the senate candidate in pennsylvania, is probably very happy right now. makes that less challenging perhaps that race against bob casey. but i do think that it is a doubling down on the progressive side of the party. i also think it shows the inherent power of nancy pelosi. think about all that she has influenced perhaps in just the

last four and a half weeks. the removal of a democratic nominee current president, and now in part the selection of the vice presidential nominee. she was weighing in and her point mattered. i think it raises some questions about the jewish vote and how perhaps afraid the democratic party is of the palestinian protestor clash that we may still see some of in chicago. but perhaps less now with josh shapiro not on the ticket. and finally, i do think that it is interesting. he is 60 years old. roughly the same age as kamala harris, and it is a different look. minnesota obviously is not one that is really in play a state. it was closer but it won't be now probably. and it is a fascinating pick

that really has some people scratching their heads. >> bill: just to the point that you began with there. rnc research on x are tiring away already -- he is defending sanctuary cities and states. the transcript said should minnesota be a sanctuary state? if the definition of that is that the federal government enforces local law, then yes, should cities be allowed to be sanctuary cities? yes, local control. so this is the angle they have chosen to go after walz. that means crime will be a contending issue for republicans going after this ticket. >> of course. the 2020 riots come front and center in minnesota. i also think you look at who she didn't pick. not only shapiro, but mark kelly. two moderates in swing states the democrats think they have a

chance at. she went the other way. and for a candidate who is going to have some issues running away from some of the things she said in 2019 in her own presidential race, this is a doubling down. this is a clear choice ideologically i think as well. >> gillian: walz has 12 years served in the house, five plus years as governor now. yet according to the latest abc poll nine out of ten americans say they don't know enough about him to have an opinion. that's a real challenge for the ticket. >> yeah, they will get him out and about. i think he will be the attack dog. i think the democrats look at him as an antidote head-to-head with j.d. vance. fascinating. you and i talked about it on the set last night of special report. this is a real battle for the rust belt. who could out rust belt each other as far as those voters?

tim walz and j.d. vance will go head-to-head and see who pulls it out. >> it was coming out of the convention in milwaukee what the target was. legal republican strategists the following line. there is a substantial number of white men without college degrees in minnesota and wisconsin and michigan and pennsylvania who voted in 2016 but sat out 2020. a lot of what the theory of the case was for the presentation in milwaukee during the convention is to go after those men and get them to vote in 2024, which would give donald trump a chance in wisconsin, give him a chance in michigan and also in pennsylvania, bret. >> i agree with you. this guy hunts, he ice fishes. he is one of those guys. he talks about rural america and how donald trump doesn't

understand it. on the flip side donald trump and the former president and j.d. vance are talking directly to those folks and trying to get those folks just like they built that coalition, he did, trump did in 2016. we need to think about the democratic party. the delegates themselves are really controlled by progressives. and if you think back to the power of bernie sanders after 2016 when hillary clinton goes on to get that nomination, you know, the power inside was very progressive and it still may be because labor weighed in on the scales on this choice, progressives in the party weighed in and this is who vice president harris chose. >> bill: hang on one second. a lot of reaction coming in. i will read it. desantis out of florida. harris-walz most left wing ticket in american history. minnesota was ground 0 for the blm riots in 2020.

harris egged it on and walz let it burn. kelly an conway, what a relief. that on x right now. >> gillian: walz did come to internet notoriety over the last week or so and given credit for coining the term weird to describe the republican ticket. may this be a case of the campaign choosing the shiny object in the room. >> they like how he talks and addresses media interviews. he has been on our shows. he is not afraid like j.d. vance, not afraid to go to different places, not afraid to mix it up. he does speak in plain speak. he is a former football coach. former teacher. he has that appeal, that affect.

i think that for the people politically looking at what was going to benefit kamala harris specifically with states and specifically with moderates and independents and suburban women and maybe never trump or skeptical trump republicans, i'm not sure that this pick gets there. we'll see how he performs. we'll see it in chicago on wednesday night. >> bill: thank you, bret. bret baier joins us now. josh also joins us. your top reaction to this selection a harris-walz ticket going up against donald trump. >> a victory for progressives in the democratic party over the moderate wing of the democratic party who thought josh shapiro could have handed the ticket the state of pennsylvania and given the necessary moderation to the democratic party brand that they've struggled with and that

kamala harris struggled with in her 2020 presidential campaign. look, tim walz is a folksy good and a good political track record. he represented a tough seat in minnesota for a number of years. nancy pelosi had a good relationship with him. one of the biggest assets for the governor getting the number two spot on the ticket and won two terms in a competitive state like minnesota. minnesota is not a presidential swing state. it is -- there will be a lot of questions on why when a lot of democrats thought josh shapiro gives you more politically, brings moderates, swing voters into the democratic camp. why the harris campaign went with the most progressive option on the board? mark kelly also a finalist from arizona, another swing state. shapiro from pennsylvania. minnesota is a pretty blue state. governor walz governed in a

progressive direction during his eight years in office. you will hear a lot about crime and immigration. >> bill: let me interject. try to answer the question you just posed. why do it then? if it's considered the outset to be so progressive? >> well this is a choice of style over substance. you look at governor walz's record and it is pretty progressive. i imagine republicans will be honing in on his record of the riots in the twin cities after the george floyd murder. there will be a lot of criticism that republicans and democrats offer his way during that moment. that will come up in a lot. but he comes across as bret was saying as someone comfortable speaking to all types of groups. a working-class guy. he speaks in a folksy manner. they think it will play well in some of the midwestern states not just pennsylvania but michigan and certainly wisconsin

that are big political battlegrounds. >> bill: walz represented congressional district one. a huge rural section of the southern part of the state in minnesota. tom emmer is also a congressman, republican from minnesota, and one of the main jobs is electing republicans to the house. here he is on x, all right? ready, josh? it's not surprising kamala harris picked tim walz to be her running mate. embodies the same economic and soft on crime policies harris inflicted on our country the last four years. walz is an empty suit who worked to turn minnesota into harris's home state of california and solidifies the america last agenda. i imagine they are ready with that one to fire it off. when you talk about the protests in minneapolis, there will be a spot, josh, where that reporter

is standing at night with these burning buildings behind him saying these protests are largely peaceful. >> look, the issue of criminal justice, the issue of law and order, the rising crime in many american cities, that is one of the bigger vulnerabilities that democrats have that kamala harris specifically has in this campaign. i can already see those ads from the republicans coming along and already being prepared by the trump campaign. look, walz fashioned the word weird to describe the trump-vance ticket. it will be really interesting to see which ticket is viewed as weirder, the one that is a little to the left on the issue of crime and criminal justice or the one that has been attacking trump. >> bill: how about this thought, josh, there will be those who suggest she ran away from

shapiro and she did it because there is no end in sight to this war in the middle east. and when you've got chicago hanging out there some two weeks from now, they are already bracing for protests. who knows how large those protests could become? the media will cover it in chicago and it is going to get a lot of attention. >> bill, there is no doubt that democrats and harris campaign were worried about the prospect of anti-israel demonstrators. anti-semitic demonstrations taking place in chicago and really causing a ruckus at the moment when the party needed to be unified. that clearly was weighing on the harris campaign's decision. it may have scuttled shapiro's ability to be a history-making selection on the ticket. that may have been a decisive factor in her selection of governor walz. >> gillian: this is gillian. a second tweet from tom cotton.

let's be honest. kamala is the most anti-israel member of biden's team always siding with hamas. shapiro and walz's views on israel aren't that different. her base did not want shapiro. some democrats even if the house that has been out there for a couple of weeks. what role if any do you think shapiro's faith played in the harris campaign's decision today? >> well look, the harris campaign will have to answer. a lot of jewish democrats in particular that were raising the specter of anti-semitism within their own party. we talked about the squad and the anti-israel faction of lawmakers that have really gained a voice in congress over the last few years. look, it's hard to deny -- >> gillian: a lot of pro-palestinian groups lobbied the campaign hard against shapiro the last two weeks.

>> that's right. and there was a lot of buzz that shapiro was the odds-on favorite and heard the opposition campaign from the left against governor shapiro. a lot of it you have to wonder why shapiro wasn't picked given he is from the most important swing state on the map and he gives them the moderation that the harris campaign badly needed at a time when harris is at risk of being looked at as a very progressive candidate, a very progressive vice president and candidate when she ran in 2020. so shapiro was sort of an obvious political choice. i think the party and harris campaign was worried there could be really significant division and that the anti-israel forces within the party would cause a ruckus at the chicago convention. >> bill: we are getting a lot of reaction. bring back in kayleigh mcenany. jonathan martin from "politico", what's striking isn't just that she landed on the left's preferred pick, that she defied

so many democratic consultants who preferred shapiro. i would argue if you were listening to all the din and noise over the past week or so, they were building toward a shapiro pick. that was the sense i had at the end of last week. but something changed this past weekend. senator fetterman out of pennsylvania, people were throwing darts at shapiro from directions and angles that i think a lot of us hadn't seen before. or really had anticipated. in my view, just reading the tea leaves, things started to change this weekend. >> no doubt. a concerted pressure campaign. teacher's union, fetterman, pelosi walted walz. harris was having a battle between her head and heart. her head said josh shapiro, you need to win pennsylvania. the analysts, the data, i have

to imagine they focus group tested this. the head said josh shapiro. her heart i think is in a place where there has been a lot of reporting that there wasn't this close relationship between joe biden and kamala harris at the start of the administration. she felt on the outs. we saw a little bit of that with the border czar and some of the mixed messaging and she wanted her vice president to not have that same experience so she i think made a choice that she thought this person could be a governing partner regardless of the political consequences. we're not in a traditional time and not had a shake-up like this in quite some time. >> gillian: interesting you frame it of her following her heart. if you were her and looking at this. just thrust into the position two weeks ago, you are inheriting biden's track record on all policy issues, inheriting his senior staff, inheriting his

campaign staff in whole or in part of making some changes now. inheriting the entire apparatus that you now have in order to make your own case. it is not that surprising that you would want the pick that you want and everybody else's opinion be damned. one place where she could strike out and make her own decision and make a mark on this race. >> yes, regardless of what the facts on the ground said. look, i think another component to this is -- you hit on it -- is the 2020 riots and the way you saw the governor handle it there in minnesota. i was doing some digging. he admitted it was an abject failure, his handling. remember the third precinct, the police precinct on fire. he had to apologize. a 30 year police veteran, head of the police department said he had never seen the civil unrest, mass looting, indiscriminate arson. that picture comes at a time

where iran may be striking israel, where we are in economic calamity, it feels that way. the idea of chaos and you double down on chaos candidate, what the trump campaign will say, on paper this choice made no sense. in her heart, progressive heart i think it made a lot of sense. >> bill: there is a reaction team ready to go for this pick and it is all over x and email and we'll continue to get a lot of reaction throughout the day. one thing that came in right now and there is video of it online of walz signing a bill into law allowing residents to get a driver's license no matter their immigration status. he thought it was good for minneapolis and st. paul. vance -- before i go to that one thing. the middle east is on edge. we don't know what iran is going to do. we are don't know what they will order hezbollah to do. the u.s. military is stacked and packed in the middle east as we speak. we await on that.

the markets are on a rollercoaster, who knows the status for the economy now going forward for the next three months and beyond. no comment, no statement, nothing on x from president biden or for that matter kamala harris in the middle of this decision that she is making. however, j.d. vance says this. this moment could set off a real economic calamity around the globe. steady leadership. the kind president trump delivered for four years. kamala harris is too afraid to answer media questions. by my count it's 16 days since the coronation happened, the switch took place within the democratic party and kamala harris has yet to do a media interview. >> it is stunning. you have to do a media interview, press conference. she has taken a few questions on the tarmac. the time she took the questions in the release of the hostages

her answer wasn't as clean as some hoped for. i wait for the press to clamor for the free wheeling opportunity. j.d. vance is messaging with hewitt. the only we action we have thus far from the trump campaign. if it's not josh shapiro they will have not picked him out of anti-semitism. previewing a little of what we're going to hear. shapiro, an a.p. headline. i was young, just 13, apologizes for having an israel themed barmitzva. >> gillian: two weeks ago we were told by the white house and the biden campaign that he went to bed one night determined to stay in the race, 100%, woke up the following day, made the decision, announced two hours later to the american people. now we're being told that as of two hours ago, vice president

harris had not chosen her running mate. she made the decision about a half hour later. we're now confirming that decision. does any of this square with your knowledge about campaigns and politics and how stuff actually works? it seems suspect to me. to say the least. >> it was a last minute decision. trump made a last minute decision in vance. he had it in his mind kind of who he want ed but it was a day of decision and he made the call to vance and he missed the call on the plane. so the story goes. this morning i do think there is a question of decisiveness here. it is a two-week period but she woke up. according to nbc they were printing signs with both running mates' names on it. she wanted to sleep on it. it was a last-minute decision. it appears to me probably the data, the focus groups, the seasoned veterans who came to her and said josh shapiro has to

be choice were weighing on her mind and she slept on it and woke up and she decided to go with her gut. >> bill: rnc research on x. according to walz one person's socialism is another person's neighborlyness. we'll see that in an ad and debate whether that's what america wants in the next term. back to josh joining us now. if i could lean on you for a moment here into that big brain of yours, when walz was running for re-election, can we say whether or not in parts of minnesota he out performed joe biden or did he out perform donald trump or under perform in his home state? >> so, he has been a battle tested politician. i think when he ran for congress it was a republican-leaning seat in the rural parts of southern minnesota. and he won his seat back in 2006 at a time when people didn't

think democrats could win that rural part of the state. so he has a pretty good political resume. that said, when he became governor and tacked to the left he ran about where democrats in minnesota ran. he governed as a progressive. in 2022 he helped democrats win back the state senate. he got full power. democrats control the state legislature and the governorship with him and -- his statewide record doesn't suggest that he is really run well ahead of the democratic ticket like josh shapiro has in the state of pennsylvania. >> gillian: let's talk about doug en hoff for the moment. the second gentlemen in history. if she prevails in november he will be the first first gentleman and he is jewish. how does that play with the base? does that -- does that count

towards harris's favor she put josh shapiro aside now, but her husband is jewish? how does it play? >> well look, there may have been some hesitance to pick governor shapiro. it could have been a factor in their decision, i don't know. i think the bigger factor, gillian, is the anti-israel forces are alive and well and outspoken within the democratic party and they were even before kamala harris was on the ticket, the biden campaign was worried about disruptions in chicago. there is anti-israel march that will be taking place during the convention that will get a lot of attention. so i think the division between the squad and the anti-israel folks in the party and by the way the delegates are a notch to the left to the average democratic voter. the prospect of josh shapiro getting booed, left wing activists heckling the running mate, that would have been

really ugly and a bad image if that was her pick. that's how things went. there was a risk it could have happened. so i think you can't discount the discrimination and anti-semitism factor in the decision in this selection. >> bill: republicans are getting on message together. stefanik, walz was a failed member of congress and served several terms in the house as a failed governor who supported defund the police, blm that torched the cities to the ground while kamala harris fundraiseed to bail out violent criminals from prison. josh, hard to say at the moment because we are living through this in realtime. hard to say how much this pick matters in two or three days because the trend is it goes back to the top of the ticket and we're going to get a debate i would imagine, maybe more than one. maybe for the american people maybe we get three, who knows what trump and harris ultimately

decide on as these behind the scenes debates continue. but how long does the walz effect last out there before the focus goes back to the top of the ticket and kamala harris? >> the running mate usually doesn't have that much of a difference in the big picture. for someone as politically new to the scene relatively speaking as vice president harris is, this is one of her first big decisions. democrats wanted to know will she pick someone more to the left or more to the center? how is she going to govern as president if she is elected? and the pick of walz over shapiro is a strong, strong signal that her instincts are to the left, not the center. >> bill: thanks, stand by. more on the phone now. >> gillian: let's bring in senator tom cotton joining us by phone now. senator, good to have you on. what are your initial thoughts, reactions to this pick? >> thanks for having me on. bill is right. the top of the ticket is what

really matters. kamala harris's choice of tim walz enforcers what they knew, a san francisco liberal. during the blm riots in 2020 tim walz allowed looters and rioters to rampage through minneapolis. kamala harris encouraged contributions for the bail fund for the few that were arrested. kamala harris said she wants to decriminalize illegal immigration and stands up for illegal aliens and fights for their rights. tim walz turned his state into a sanctuary state where violent illegal felons and given drivers license to illegal aliens and college tuition to them. kamala harris is a san francisco liberal and walz is a self-proclaimed socialist. the american people will make their decision based on kamala harris's dangerous record but tim walz exposes that record once again.

>> bill: we were talking with bret 20 minutes ago with the states of minnesota, wisconsin, pennsylvania and michigan. does tim walz appeal to workers? >> no, you can see it in the election returns. my in-laws live in minnesota. maybe now they'll get rid of their failed governor. even worse for all of us because the harris-walz record shows what a disaster they would be in the white house. it confirms again that they will be governing from the far left if they get into the white house. it would mean higher taxes, more inflation, more crime, more chaos at the border and more war and chaos around the world. >> gillian: senator, i guess his defenders, his supporters, will tell you that he is very plain spoken, likable, a former teacher and football coach. what could be more american than

that? >> i served with him in the house and know him. he is plain spoken about his own far left record. that's why kamala harris picked him. she is a san francisco liberal and feels most comfortable around other far left liberals. again it reinforces everything that the american people know about kamala harris's radical record. >> gillian: democrats have also touted his relationship with harris, closer than with some other frontrunner v.p. ticket picks. what do you know about their relationship to one another from working with him and her? >> they never -- i don't think they overlapped in congress more than a couple of years. i can tell you it is hard to build much of a relationship between the senate and house in two years when congressman tim walz was running for governor. let's be honest, for much of the last two weeks they thought she

would pick josh shapiro and it was the only choice with an organized campaign against him but the pro hamas wing of the party. frankly josh shapiro and walz's views on israel and the middle east aren't that much difference. harris is catering to her pro-hamas element in the democratic party. let's be honest, she can't lead anything. not this country or certainly not her party. >> bill: the reaction here at home and in major american cities, you wonder what the data on the inside was telling them about how their party felt about this? i think for a while they thought maybe they could tamp this down and find a way to a cease-fire in gaza and put a lot of this behind us. what we saw in washington ten days ago was despicable.

all those people in the head gear supporting hamas and all over the freedom belt and amount of graffiti that was drawn up on the monuments. i don't know where the cops were. i'm not blaming them. there weren't enough of them to stop them. that, senator, i believe is probably what kamala harris is seeing deep within her party that will be a problem for the next 90 days and beyond possibly. >> i think it is a problem for the democrats. they have let this large anti-semitic wing grow up. i don't want to say she is caving to that wing. she belongs to that wing of the party. the pro-hamas lunatics you saw defacing monuments in washington and burning the american flag is a growing part of their party. there were arrests made which is always the case with the left wingers. promptly released and bailed out of jail just like tim walz did

in minnesota and kamala harris encouraged people to do during the blm riots and later that day she didn't condemn the rioters or didn't say that she supported israel's right to take the fight to hamas. she put pressure on israel to cave in to hamas. what did you get? more emboldened iranian proxies, two days later shooting missiles into israel. blowing up kids on a playground. israel has taken out four terrorist leaders, did you -- they put more pressure on israel to stop doing that as well. kamala harris doesn't have a problem with how israel defends itself. she has a problem -- [inaudible] >> bill: you dropped at the end but appreciate you jumping on the phone. thank you. we go to michael whatley head of the rnc for the first official

reaction from you, sir. what do you think of kamala harris, tim walz? >> the most radical left progressive ticket that we have ever seen in american history. i am amazed that kamala harris doubled down once again on her radical left ideology to pick a soul mate for the ticket. this is a guy who is soft on crime, a guy who has open borders and loves inflationary spending. one of the most left wing members of congress and i think that they are doubling down on every single position that we've seen over the last four years, whether it's open borders, inflationary spending or a weak standing in the world for america. >> gillian: mr. chairman, this is gillian here. the luger center out of georgetown university the school of public policy has an index that ranks every member and

their bipartisan score. they are claiming that governor tim walz when he left had the seventh most bipartisan record of anybody in the house. what are your thoughts about that? that was 2015 and 2016. >> i would say look at his voting record and his rhetoric. the fact that he failed to shut down the riots that burned down minnesota and supported efforts to put the rioters out on bail just like kamala harris did. the fact that he supported inflationary spending. he did everything he can to shut down energy moving into minnesota, and the fact that he is going to be a perfect ideological companion to kamala harris and the left wing of his party and the ticket. >> bill: i assume there will be a debate with tim walz and j.d.

vance. can you confirm? >> i welcome that debate. there is a lot we can talk about. any time you have an opportunity to compare somebody like j.d. vance, who grew up in rural appalachia, put himself through school, answered the call for military service when america was attacked and then has never forgotten where he is from, will fight every day for american families. tim walz, who is signing up with kamala to advance radical left ideology from the white house, there is a clear contrast and i'm excited to have that conversation. >> bill: tim walz born and raised in nebraska. moved to minnesota later in life. one debate on the vice presidential level. can you tell us today how many debates there will be between donald trump and kamala harris? >> i can't. i think those discussions are ongoing right now. but we'll hopefully have some

announcement that will be coming out soon. >> bill: thank you for your time. michael whatley jumping on the phone, chairman of the republican national committee. we'll get more reaction from you as we move throughout the day. thank you, sir. we are going to get a break here. >> gillian: not a bad idea. >> bill: there is a ton of reaction still out there from the right and the left and keep in mind we'll see kamala harris later today. a big rally in philadelphia this evening. walz will be with her as well. we should see vance on the stump in 15 minutes as well. we're just getting going here. back in a moment right after this.

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>> bill: tim walz is the one choseer by harris to be on the card for the final sprint for the election on november 5th. bring in general keith kellogg. general, good morning and thank you for joining our coverage here. the politics folds into a lot of these world events. and the world events that you are keyed into right now is what

happens next in the middle east? ongoing war with hamas, hostages there. no cease-fire. something that kamala harris and joe biden have wanted. it hasn't happened. see what netanyahu's next move is. you have iran that suggests as of two days ago that it doesn't care whether or not its response to israel starts a regional war. how does that sit now, general? >> yeah, bill, to you and gillian thanks for having me today. it's really interesting to watch this. six days ago israel netanyahu took a bold move by attacking deep into iran and killing the leader of hamas haniyeh, dramatic. when you look at the other things they've done to shoot hezbollah's number two and went deep into yemen after the houthis. everything they've done in fighting north, south, east and west. they put iran on their back foot

and added basically some deterrents into the region we haven't seen before. deterrence is based on credibility. it's capability and will. the iranians and russians and everybody else in the region knows israel is prepared to act. the supreme leader can say he doesn't care if it goes to regional war. yes, he does. he needs to know that israel will respond. what i mean by respond, if they hit israel hard the supreme leader is at risk with his life. the leader of hezbollah, the risk of his life. the nuclear facilities in iran, risk there. the israelis showed in the last episode when they fired all those missiles at them they went towards and took out all the air defense systems in one of the big nuclear sites so they can go there. this is interesting to watch. i think iranians are a little nervous. they can talk a big game but put themselves at risk and i think

this is where they'll go. i'm all in with israel on this one. my frustration is the united states hasn't backed them up. we have forces in the region. we haven't verbally supported them or shown military strength supporting them. this will be a real problem for the biden administration. >> gillian: to bill's point about politics playing into the geopolitical situation we now find ourselves in. obviously overnight iran regardless of when they launch struck a u.s. base in iraq injuring service members a few hours ago. should we have heard from the president or vice president harris either in her capacity as the vice president or as a candidate at this point? >> you know, gillian, absolutely. i am just stunned. they have just disregarded the american military. a real disgrace they have done that. i go back to 2020, the state of the union when president trump was in the well of the house and said if you attack an american,

didn't say kill, wound, maim. if you attack an american your life is forfeit. we need to make sure we follow through on that. we can make everybody pay a price for that. oh, some americans got hurt. those are sons and daughters of americans. our most precious asset. when i was in the military if we lost somebody i wanted to make sure it was recognized not only for patriotism but we responded as well to those that took their lives on them. this administration hasn't done that. it's a disgrace. >> bill: second time in four months, could happen again. we know we did respond about a week and a half ago but never got results in it. we hope to find out soon how bad the injured are. general. thank you for jumping on with us. let's get a quick break again. breaking news when we return after this. your investment portfolio and your retirement money?

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