restaurants catered food for the press and perhaps most memorable were the delegates doing the macarena on the convention floor ♪ macarena ♪ hey mac rainna. >> bret: maybe no macarena this time you can see the trump hotel over the chicago river. we didn't even plan that he will be watching, i'm sure what comes out of the democratic convention. and we have everything covered this week. we have got a special 10:00 p.m. eastern time prime time conch. martha mccallum and i will be anchor that. we will bring you president biden's speech as he says farewell to this nomination. this was supposed to be his convention, remember. he has been to almost every single democratic convention since 1972. tonight we have got you covered and all week. and, of course, we will do it fair, balanced and unafraid. "the ingraham angle" starts right now. >> laura: good evening, everyone. i'm laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle"

from night one of the democratic national convention here in chicago. my angle in moments. but, first, well, businesses boarded up. welcome here. protesters in the streets. celebs, a few of them milling about. and there are free abortions from a truck. sounds like a liberal utopia to me let's go live now to the convention floor where fox news senior white house correspondent peter doocy, is he standing by. peter, what should we expect from the torch passing tonight? >> >> peter: laura, we saw president biden earlier doing a walk through. just from what we could see with our own eyes, he seemed kind of downtrodden. he didn't look like he was very excited. you can see him on the screen right there, to be here giving this speech. he barely spoke above a whisper so, we don't have a ton of insight into what he is thinking. he said he is prepared to pass the torch. somebody asked him if this is a bittersweet moment and he said it's actually just a memorable moment. his team is putting out the word this is not going to be about

his legacy but rather about looking forward and that makes sense. because the things he was putting forward as recently as one month ago in that dnc platform that they accidently released with 21 references to president biden's second term in it. that was a platform that swoos unpopular that they had to force him out of the race which is exactly what happened. the first lady's team is saying ahead of her remarks that there are no hard feelings, with the bidens and the pelosis and the obamas and all of these prominent democrats. this is the first time in the last -- on the first day that, we have seen people actually coming to their seats. so, as protests rage outside and fences are coming down that aren't supposed to come down, people are still making it in, and they are trying to put forward a united front but we'll see. laura? >> laura: peter, i was actually

lucky enough to see president biden today. all of us from the angle were stuck on a street corner and the motorcade went right by. i waved and i'm pretty sure he waved back. you know, i have met him a few times over the years. but it was quite exciting. so he made his way through. and it was about a 30-minute wait. peter, we're looking forward to watching your reporting all week long here. thank you so much. now vibes aren't enough. that's the focus of tonight's angle. ♪ all right, we're here in chicago. so, of course, i like to think about the legendary 1958 bears. one of the most dominant football teams in history. now, if you remember the bears were famous for their bone-crushing defense, which often knocked the other teaming's quarterbacks out of the game all together. that is pretty much what president trump and his campaign did to the democrats earlier this year. joe biden as the incumbent president, he was the great hope of the democratic party.

and they relied on his experience. they defended his record. and they covered up his decline. they told themselves over and over that he was the only person whad ever beaten trump and therefore, he was the best man for the job. they blocked the anyone who tried to have a real debate in the democratic primaries. and then, after all that, president trump effectively ended joe biden's 52-year career in politics in 90 minutes. now, biden is on the sidelines, where he sits with almost everyone out who has challenged president trump. the clinton family, the bush family, the cheney family, all of them are very powerful, very talented. until they crossed paths with trump. now, they are all retired from politics, contrary to what the media predicted at the time. >> the battle between donald trump and hillary clinton is over hillary is going to win. >> enough with donald trump. he's done. he lost. >> trump's done. trump's over. >> laura: with all their most

talented players gone, the democrats have been forced to turn to an unproven backup quarterback. the last person that they ever, ever wanted to see on the field. now, for years, the media has told us that she was tanch at politics. and the media in that case was not wrong. >> so, ukraine is a country in europe. it exists next to another country called russia. russia is a bigger country. russia is a powerful country. russia decided to invade a smaller country called ukraine. so, basically, that's wrong. >> laura: okay. and yesterday, she tried to answer a press question about how she would pay for the one policy of hers that we know about. now, see if you can get out a piece of paper and a pen, try to diagram this sentence. >> we know that there's a great return on our investment. when we increase home ownership in america. what that means in terms of increasing the tax base, not to

mention property tax base, what that does to fund schools, again, return on investment. it's a mistake for any american who talks about public policy to not critically evaluate how you measure the return on investment. >> laura: drinking game return on investment. roi. since being named as the nominee, kamala harris has only made three major decisions. and all three were disasters. number one, caving to the anti-semites in her party, she bypassed josh shapiro, the obvious choice for vp and gave the job to tim walz, a radical left winger who is a dream candidate if you do opposition research maybe for the g.o.p. now, because of the many lies that walz has told and because of his disastrous record in minnesota, the harris campaign is afraid to let him do interviews. unless, of course, it's conducted by kamala herself when i are looking in the face of a stranger you should see a

neighbor, right? >> yes. about crying about this a girl from oak win california a guy from out in nebraska on there. >> right? >> rejecting the advice from the democrats on the hill, she announced that radical economic agenda that has already denounced by top economists and her supporters in the mainstream press even. >> we have seen this kind of thing tried in lots of other countries before. venezuela, argentina, the soviet union, et cetera it leads to is that right tages and black marketsment plenty of uncertainty might actually increase brice. >> and number three, in her speech that rolled out that disaster agenda she conceded that economics were failure and- >> -- loaf of bread cost 50% more today than it did before the pandemic ground beef is up

almost 50%. >> 23409d surprisingly clips from the speech li likely to tun up in trump ads than anything from the democrats. let us be very clear tonight there. is a reason why the democrats wanted to keep harris on the bench. there is a reason why she is the backup and not the starter of course, like any well-coached team the democrats are doing anything they can to protect her. they don't let her do interviews, they encourage her to stay on script. and they have told her publicly that they do not want her offering any more policy proposals. and this week they are going to do everything they can to distract the voters from her awful record and her poor political judgment. and if they can keep her hidden from now until november, the democrat machine is certainly strong enough to win this election. but and there is a big but. her momentum is already stalling. trump leads big on the top three issues that concern americans most, the inflation, the border and the economy i is showing

staying power it strong including in pennsylvania. so if back in january, you told, i don't know, republican leaders that biden would have bombed so badly democrats had to go with harris to win the election? they would have felt very confident about their chance. and the underlying could i am in mics they have not changed, so republicans should very confident about their chances now, and that's the angle. kayleigh mcenany senior fox news contributor and juan williams, fox news senior political analyst. kellyanne, this is the last week the democrats can just ride on the vibe so, what comes next? >> what comes next is them having to go across the country and facing the voters, voters if not the press are going to have pretty tough questions for kamala harris and tim walz the kind they won't answer now. look, the polling fundamentals the electoral map shows trump winning, even during this sustained harris honeymoon trump

tough vs. kamala fluff is the way i see it. laura, the cbs poll of all things showed donald trump winning 41% of hispanics. take that for a moment. 17% of african-americans tied in pennsylvania, wisconsin. that's great news for former president trump and i think is he doing this week with his running mate j.t. vance what he need to do. take that economic message. make her as the border caesar. the 10 million illegals come here and all the problems that has brought. you know, when donald trump ran successfully 8 years ago, the issues wasn't as clear cut. he was talking about border security and illegal immigration and people were calling him names. >> now it's the number two issue and every sing swing state in the nationwide polling because people see it in their backyards. they don't think it's fair tonight's theme, laura answer this st stuff for the future. young people can't afford a home

hillary clinton and joe biden. great axios piece today made very clear his people believe he was pushed and the same people are applauding him now they are not buying it. >> laura: speaking of that biden's former adviser anita dunn, she was bitter about the way things went down she previewed his speech, watch. >> this is not a time for legacy, arguing why kamala harris is the best candidate. also for his making a strong case for why the choice that voters made in 2020 was the right choice. the progress we have made radio minding people what it was like when he took office in january of 2021 how far to country has come most americans remember their life, especially economically was much better before this administration. money in their market.

rainy day funds. better than now. how was that progress? >> you are talking about the rich. i think trump had passed a major tax cut for the very wealthy corporation have you seen kamala harris come out popular note. not dealing with big tax cuts. going to stop things like what they call price gouging also make a big effort to support youngs people who want to buy a house. we aring two make a big deal out of about cutting the cost of prescription drugs in this country that's why you are seeing that populist argument take hold, as you pointed out earlier laura, there are lots of economists who have arguments about what her policies look like that takes you back to some era in the mid 70s. if has traction. why on the issues you highlighted earlier, economic

issues. what you have seen harris closing the gap between where trump was vs. biden are you saying wages are up for middle class americans compared to 2019? is that what you are saying? that's totally false. marc thiessen in the "the washington post" destroyed that argument. it's a fact. >> laura: unemployment near record low. stock market at a record high what is true is that wages are coming up. and come through coronavirus terrible economic time. >> laura: with no inflation. lawyer. >> juan: all your economists were saying america is going into a recession, joe biden kept us outside of a recession. >> laura: we will see what happens after the recession if there was a recession. real numbers going. 61% say going in the wrong direction and feel poorer economically at least had 5%

feel boarer. >> not positive signs. >> some feel paycheck to paycheck. even if your wages went up it doesn't matter if the price of everything else. >> laura: real wages. >> absolutely, real wages. also the war on fossil fuels and the energy dependence that they have introduced has also affected our economy. look at the trump tax cuts, if they expire last year. we are in trouble trouble. doubled personal exemption child tax credit and then those companies that went from the highest tax rate in the lecd to below the average of 23%, they reinvested in employees and inventory and research and innovation. by the way, juan, i will put up donald trump 2019 against kamala harris 2019 any day. the issue is kamala harris 2019 won't dare show up here. she is kamala harris not og

vintage. >> laura: if the record of biden and harris is so strong, why did they put biden on monday night and why are they kicking him out the door the second he gets. his speech doesn't start until 11:00 p.m. eastern. 11:00 p.m. is he a sitting president of the united states of america. >> juan: you know i love the two of you. i must say if i was listening to the two of you. i would say did donald trump lose in 2020? why did the american people reject him if he was so great in the answer is, you look at that economy, you look at that dealing with coronavirus and you say oh, the american people said we want something better and what they saw was joe biden and this time they are looking to kamala harris and a new generation. >> laura: what they saw was joe biden and totally called coup on him kicked him to the curb after 52 years and someone first pepper to drop out of the race. >> who they had no confidence for so long or they could have made this deal with joe biden

and told him not to run for re-election december 1st of 2022 you got the brass ring. you became president. ran three times in two centuries got rid of donald trump. can you elevate the woman. everyone will tell you they had no confidence in her. now alleluia the sudden they have confidence in her. joe biden knows this is not revelry tonight or respect this is rejection. they stripped his dignity spoidzed to believe the new reinvention of kamala harris. i think it works for the democrats right now. trump being up among i wants and four in ten hispanics that's huge news because they were not gravitating toward kamala. wait a second, the economy. people don't want to make history. they want to make money. they want to make their mortgage and rent payments i think people want to make a good decision in november. and right now the reason we are seeing so much momentum for

harris, you guys don't like her, you say she is terrible. >> no, i don't understand her. >> juan: someone that represents optimism, hope. [laughter] >> laura: come on, juan. >> she is joyful. >> juan: it's pet were the way -- you would think kellyanne is pretty skilled that trump would have a better angle for trying to go after and define kamala harris on his terms. he doesn't know it. he doesn't have it. it's not happening and -- you talk about a split among the democrats. what about the split among the republicans still split by the fact that trump is in. >> beat everybody in the primary. you guys kicked r.f.k. jr. out of the party. so afraid. didn't win a single state. >> i see, dimension any of the republicans especially former cabinet members who have said donald trump should never be anywhere near the white house again? >> laura: sorry and adam kinzinger speaking at the convention. oh, our heart is beating fast in

anticipation of that tour de force. come on, juan, most united the party has been since 1984. i will say, this juan, i have got to give this to you. in blue states across the country, you don't have to show an i.d. do vote. right? most blue states. that's fine. that's what they want. to get into this arena, you have to show your i.d. 8 times. so democrats want to protect themselves when push documents shove. but they don't want to protect the integrity of the vote and the voting booth. what does that say about their real priorities? protect themselves, yeah. we know what that says. >> juan: i see lining one trump voter fraud in 2020 was bogus election? >> laura: apparently you don't -- apparently, you can yell but apparently you don't understand the argument. voter i.d. vs. i.d. to get in here. get out. >> juan: this is why want to go forward. >> laura: come on, juan, you are

smart. we love juan but that's a silly argument. don't try to pull that argument that's goofy. >> juan: you have no evidence of any fraud. >> laura: juan, we are talking about just fact. >> i.d. >> laura: simple concept show it to get on a plane and show it to get in here 8 times but the democrats don't want you to show it to vote. >> juan: anywhere in america. >> laura: kellyanne and juan, this so fun. great to see both of you. >> take care, guys. >> laura: now that the economic plan blew up in her face on fridays, she hasn't added any new agenda items to her website. lots of moirch for sale. clear the plan is to have no clear plan whatsoever. given she can't speak coherently on anything beyond maybe her best texmex recipes it's safer that way. >> what is interesting in me seeing this plan it's truly very progressive. regardless of what she is saying

to donors behind closed doors, she is putting a progressive bent to her campaign at this point. that's not what a lot of people expected or hoped to see. i have been talking to moderate democrats who said she could run a vibes campaign. she didn't have to get into policy details at all. >> the more details you share, the more your policies are going to get picked apart. she is saying i trust the american people. i trust the journalists to explain these policies and our values to folks and i think when that happens, it will be successful for democrats. >> laura: yeah. just don't share any policies. we trust the american people to buy a load of -- and for one economic policy we do know about, well, she can't really explain how she is going to pay for it. joining us now missouri senator josh hawley, senator, of course, kamala harris occasionally steals trump's ideas like no tax on tips, but, what is this ghost agenda as i like to call it tell voters. >> laura, i think the reason kamala harris isn't saying anything about policy is not

because she doesn't have policy positions is because she does have them. they are execution bloviatingly clear and execution bloviatingly bad. let's start with the border. she is the border czar. she is it in fair of amnesty for 15 million illegals in this country who she let. in worse than that, she is in favor of gold plated healthcare for all of those illegals and she wants it paid for with taxpayer funds. so, no wonder she doesn't wants to talk about her plans. no wonder she doesn't want to talk about her plans to ban gas and diesel in this country. think what that would mean for working people, what that would mean for farmers and food prices so, yes, proposing soviet price controls because her own policy and agenda are bankrupting the american people. >> laura: well, nancy pelosi said today that basically it's exciting that a woman of color is going to be president. she spoke quite a bit about that. well, don't make this about dei, make this about substance. okay, we tried to make it about

substance. they hide the substance. they roll out the economic agenda. it's panned by jason fuhrman, the obama economic adviser. and then they go back to the race angle with pelosi today it's an odd dynamic. which one is it. >> they don't want to talk about her actual policy positions because they are so bad. take a look at those price controls. here is the real thing, laura, here is what she said is have said. kamala harris, she should have said i was wrong to shut down american energy. i was wrong to try to ban all gas and diesel in this country. let's reopen american energy. that would get prices down. that would get our people back to work. that would free us of our dependence on china from our dependence on these foreign dick tears that joe biden has led us. to say she is not doing any of that she doesn't want to talk in detail because everything she stands for an anathema to the american people. >> senator, stay with me for a moment it. turns out that the democrats love cleaning people out after

all. with a strictly enforced border after all they love i.d. checks. proper credentials for entry or you are turned away. and they don't think it's inhumane to keep people behind the fence who just want a better layoff for those they love in gaza. fox news senior correspondent mike tobin is outside the convention center with the latest there. mike, what can you tell us? >> well, we are now back at union park where the big demonstration is kind of diffusing a little excitement here in the last couple of minutes, there was an injury. but apparently some guys got in a fight and a guy got his eye busted up. as far as excitement during the administration. one of the things we did see was police executing kind of a textbook edge move. agitators they wanted to get out of the crowd. busted through the crowd and plucked that agitator out of the crowd and through the line of police riot cops if you will. one of the stops at the parade

route today is 578. that's where the situation got kind of tense. that's because the demonstrators were able to get down three sections of the anti-climb fencing on the outer perimeter of the security perimeter. to get into the united center and the dnc. so they got those three sections down and they got in between two fences, if you will. the outer fence and inner fence. and they demonstrated there for a while. we saw some of the capitol police put on their gas mask. the chicago police came with light riot gear. they came from both sides and squeezed the demonstrators back out the same holes they had entered that fencing area through. there was a little bit of like sticks being thrown at the police officers, some signs that hit them right in the riot gear right in the head with their helmets. as far as demonstrations we certainly have seen worse. about 30,000 people and probably around 50 or 60 that seem like they wanted to break off the parade road and they wanted to try to storage the fence. clearly they had some success

think never made to the inner perimeter. one of the things that the supplies stated none of the protects were in any danger at any point, laura? laura thank you very much. go back to senator joshua hawley. juan didn't seem to understand what i'm saying. you have the dnc which, you know, i love chicago it's a great city and under a lot of america, crime and migrants and so forth. it's an incredible city. but, look, they understand security. the democrats, when their safety matters. their safety matters, directly impacted, you have, i think we counted 8 i.d. checks to get into the building. the fencing is like forget the protesters, i don't think they are going to get anywhere near this convention center. the barricades, they are fortified. you have law enforcement who are from this moment respected. it's quite an interesting

dynamic, again, when their own well-being and safety could be directly threatened. and all we're saying, and, again to my dear friend juan, who i love, let's apply that same approach to the border. and makes sure people are voting who are supposed to be voting. that's what we're saying. >> 100 percent, laura. i notice that the democrats are all for walls when the walls protect them. they are all for voter i.d. when it is in their dr. to do so. like you said, they are all for cops and the cops are protecting their own personal safety. but for everybody else in america. you are out of luck. here's the deal. let's note forget kamala harris is the one who opened the border. she has been vice president for three and a half years. she was the border czar. she'll opened the border. now she wants amnesty for all 15 million illegals and she wants healthcare, tanks pair funded healthcare for illegals. if you think you are better [inaudible] wait until kamala harris has you paying for every illegal in this country those

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>> laura: dnc kicking off and polls showing tightening race the rnc is counter programming running mate crisscrossing the country showcase something the democrats don't have. they are called policies. >> with your vote, we will unleash explosive economic growth and vast new prosperity for all of our citizens. every policy in the trump agenda is designed to bring the jobs

and wealth back home to merge where it belongs and where it's going to stay. kamala puts america last. i put america first. >> laura: when donald trump talking to america or answering media questions, he is now in deep debate prep. and he faces kamala in less than a month. to help him prepare, trump brought in someone who helped end harris' first presidential run, tulsi gabbard, and she joins me now. oh, tulsi, i'm so sad you are not here with me in chicago. you could be sitting on set. you would be having fun. come on. thanks a lot for leaving me here. now, without giving away too much, how is debate prep going? >> oh, first of all, you know, president trump has proven time and time again his strong performance on a debate stage. so he doesn't really need help at all with debate prep. nors did he do debate prep like a typical politician.

we because he is not a politician. this is the strength of president donald trump is he is his own person. is he real, he has strong views on issues that are important to the american people, and he has got a strong record of success on every major issue that are most concerning to the american people today. whether it's the economy, border security, crime on our streets, or the issue of war and peace and actually being able to live in the peaceful free and prosperous society. so, you know, if i can contribute anything, it really is just sharing the experience that i had with kamala harris on the debate stage. and how i think she is going to try to trick the american people as she has been over these last years to hide this radical record that sh she is going to try to run away from joe biden. but, in reality, she is directly responsible through her job as vice president and through her tiebreaking votes in the u.s. senate for the abysmal economy that we have seen. for the radical inflation that

we have seen. for the border crisis and tens of millions of illegal immigrants coming across our border. and the fact that we are closer to world war iii and nuclear war now than we have been before. >> laura: she is not going to want to talk about any of that you are 100 percent right on all those issues. but kamala harris, mark my word, and i know that you know this, her goal is going to be not to debate donald trump, but to bait donald trump. and that means bait him on personal attacks, i know i'm not good looking enough for you. it's going to be more of that. so, for those moments, what's the best way to approach it? policy, come on a new yorker. and you don't get new york humor? that's okay you're from california? love california. but i'm actually going to fix it. you wrikd it i'm going to fix it. but that's what i think she is going to spend a lot of time doing.

>> yeah, i don't have any doubt about that. we look to how president trump debated president biden, he stayed very focused on the issues that are most important to the american people and comparing and contrasting his record of success with joe biden and kamala harris' record of failure. donald trump is who he is. whether people disagree or agree with what he says at any given time. you never have to question how he feels about something or where he stands on an issue. and that's going to be his strong contrast with kamala harris ohio guarantee you right now is memorizing lines, being fed to her by he or she pollsters that she will deliver. i think in a way that she has practiced in many ways throughout her political career. but, you know, it's not even an inch deep. it's very superficial. and she has got an incredibly vulnerable record because it's been disastrous for the american people. '. >> ainsley: she won't defend it.

tulsi, i can't wait to see the debate. so great to see you but i'm mad at you for not being here. thank you, tulsi. >> i'm sower, laura. >> laura: democrats want you to ignore what liberalism does to urban america, including right here in chicago. so, we found out what's really going on in liberal utopia and we share it with you, next. ♪ i'm expected! not anymore. mr. dubin's been taking relief factor. relief factor!! keep pain away for good, with relief factor. a natural supplement that takes a different approach to pain relief. it doesn't mask pain, it builds up your body's response to inflammation so pain won't get in. call or go online today and live your best life without pain. ♪

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♪ >> laura: back here at the dnc, and it's good vibrations. they just showed a picture of trump and booed. all the good vibrations. well, it should be a liberal nirvana here. it's run by democrats. chicago is, at every level of government. super majority throughout the state. peace and love should be breaking out all over. new residents should be flooding in every month. instead, residents are leaving and a few blocks outside of the dnc border wall -- >> -- definitely the number one issue is the violence in chicago. the gun violence. >> the violence. >> the economy is the big -- it's a big question mark, you know. you go to the grocery store. you know, eggs, bread, just small items are large in price now.

>> patricia pray easily and ambassador lowery black leadership network co-pastor at chicago's universal baptist church. pastor, great to see you, the mayor spoke of your city tonight and offered a full-throated endorsement of kamala harris. said she is just getting started. your reaction? >> first, let me give all praise to god my lord and savior jesus christ to make it possible to get here. thank you for having me. my action is the proof is in the pudding. we have crime in the black community. we got illegals here. we have high prices of inflation. i mean, our schools are inundated. our children aren't learning enough reading level in the low teens. so, i don't see anything that kamala has done as being the border czar. >> she opened the border. she has allowed the illegals, paid the illegals to come in here and invade the black community. everything shoes has done.

jailed black men in california after being out there. we are talking about a person that doesn't have a clue on what to do. >> laura: pastor and peray, look, nancy pelosi went all in on in this is the first woman of color. this is historic, great first woman of color, diversity, jr. over there at nbc. nice guy this is diversity. this is it. this is our chance to make a statement about women of color in power. >> well, for me, her being a woman of color does not supersede the fact that not only does she lock up black men but she locked up black women as well. black mothers. which meant their children went into the california foster care system. imagine you being put into foster care because your mother didn't take you to school. she has never done anything for us. and she is the vice president right now. so, anything that she is saying that she can do, or that she will do, she could do right now. she doesn't want to. and that's why we don't want

her. >> laura: pastor, the "new york post" just did an analysis how badly chicago is run right now. 617 homicides 2023. most than any u.s. city 12 years. increase of 16% of major crimes. after 40% increase the year before. 24% of chicago kids as you said before meeting their reading grade level. the story goes on and on and on. we could spend the whole night going through bullet points. but this -- i'm going to repeat. this should be liberal utopia here. well, every level of government is run by a democrat. >> well,. >> that's what they keep voting in here and it's chaos. >> total chaos. >> and a great city. >> real problem is. this is that a lot of black folks actor voting in the numbers that they are using. as contract heritage foundation. i went out during the primary. and me and my teens as fraud investigators, we found some we

saw democratic judges posing as republican judges. i heard with my. >> laura: focus on the future. i get it. i know what you are saying. let's focus on the future. african-american men to me seem like they're skeptical. women. >> not even skeptical. i think at this point we have all seen that the emperor does not have on any clothes. they are giving the illegals resources that they denied go to us for generations. now we see that they have had the money all along. they didn't want to share it with us. i don't think that it's a black male or black female issue. it's an american issue. because they are giving our hard earned tax dollars away to people who chose to circumvent our immigration system and come here and suck off the taxpayers. we don't have it. we can't afford them anymore. and it's insulting for them to come here and gaslight us like this. >> laura: when we hear wages have gone up. inflation has goblegd up 30% of

your budget for food. 35% for fuel. home heating oil for people is up in some cases 60%. places conservative leadership. we didn't have prices low didn't have inflation. our communities are thriving. we didn't have two wars. >> laura: people are optimistic. 2019 the pandemic was awful. people felt a sense of optimism. had more money in their pocket could occasionally go on vacation. >> america was great. >> i just heard maxine waters just talk about 60 years. let me tell you about 60 years under democratic leadership. 60 years black people have been voting for the democrats, and we don't have anything. we don't own any businesses in our community. we have nothing. we don't own schools or banks. we don't own nothing. 60 years under this liberal rule, it's time for black people to look at the conservative, we

need to give them a chance. malcolm x said it best. quit voting, putting your eggs in one basket. >> laura: everyone has to open their minds, great to have you on. we got to come back to chicago and do a town hall. those were fun, fun really -- i. >> i want to do -- >> -- people of chicago i want to share. >> laura: got to roll. share in the next time. radio, can do it for an hour. up until recently, kamala harris was giving speeches, boasting that bidenomics is swell, well, that didn't work out. and the reason why is simple. marc thiessen nailed it today "the washington post's." over the past three years americans have gone from the highest levels of household savings ever recorded to among the lowest levels. at the same time, they have accumulated the highest level of personal debt ever recorded. holy moly. and, indeed, consumer debt now tops an eye popping

$1.14 trillion. that is a nightmare. joining us now ray washburn, chairman and ceo of charter holdings. ray, how much worse could this get under president harris? >> >> let me tell you when donald trump left office, gasoline prices were $2.17 a gallon. today $3.41 a gallon. up 50% in four years. when i heard her come out on friday with her economic plan, i looked at it, as you he no, i'm very involved in the restaurant business. our commodity prices since trump are was in office up 45%. utilities up 20%. labor over 20%. her margins have been squeezed. what we are seeing from the customers in our stores is they are not -- they are out of gas, literally, they have run out of room on credit cards, trading down. seeing this throughout the restaurant business and even in our gas stations you are seeing the same thing. customers are just run out of cash to spend. then you see her come out and say we are making too much

margin. we are gouging customers. we are now going to play by her rulings. what have her rules been the last four years when they had an opportunity to do it? what is the difference between harris economics and biden comix? it's mother progressive, more communistic and socialistic. any of us grew up in the united states in the 1960s and 1970s and saw communism fail, that's what she is trying to lead us back into. >> laura: ray, on that point, i mean, it is quite something. axios reported that biden's council of economic advisers chair gerald burnstein skimming gen z staffer in-house as the vibrarian and this staffer updates bernstein on the economic vibes observed on social media platforms, including tiktok so they are even taking the vibes at the vibes analysis toe committee

can't keep cost of goods with rent and all the other costs they have. >> economics that are in the cocoon in d.c. with harris and biden and the whole rest of their group. they don't know what the rest of the country is going through, they stay on the coast. they don't go to kansas city or chicago or dallas or phoenix or denver and seeing how the customer, the consumer is just out of go to the malls. no one got any bags. no money to spend anymore. getting worse and worse and worse. appreciate having on to explain what going on because real life business people. if you are getting out of school right now and want to start a business and hear this rhetoric, you are going to play by our rules. if you get a patent and don't use it. what kind of entrepreneurship is that going to start. >> ray, i think we need people who actually have made payrolls and no what a small margin you can make right now in this terrible economy.

and grocery stores, i mean they are under huge pressure. >> average grocery store makes -- kroger makes 1.2%. most grocery stores are making around 2% margins. look at the trash heap of retail in the united states when we were growing up. you had a. and p. k-mart, serious, all gone. why? they were replaced by more efficient prashts like costco and walmart that meet what free enterprise saul about. we need to have the government out of and it let free enterprise handle it. >> laura: great to see you as always thank you so much for joining us. biden is about to hand off the torch. who going to get burned? that's next. ♪ ging programs and services. i faced my ptsd, and i'm a better husband and father because of it. we help warriors get the expert care and support to thrive. i got involved. i got healthier. i got to be an athlete again. through our programs, community and advocacy, we're proving anything is possible.

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>> ♪ ♪ >> laura: we are back at chicago at the dnc county parent -- really beginning covid and late this evening joe biden will be speaking further humiliation for him as he keeps just taking it.

they removed him from the dnc marquis night of wednesday and thursday percent after tonight but, of course, since the entire week will be if energy production apostolic candidate, the democrats rejected in 2020, they will offer terrific tributes to the man they discarded like an old moth-eaten sweater brimming journeyman journeyman a former project area for joe biden. michael they put joe biden on an 11:00 pm eastern time. what about that? >> this started the bridge to the next generation -- your old boss ronald reagan spent on a monday night, bill clinton spoke on a monday night. -- >> laura: dedans roobroeck and out, he was up-and-coming callaghan and troy mark. but what you expect him to state and that is going to pass the torch >> some of the people saying he was stabbed in the back he was stabbed in the front, you know, --

>> laura: baltimore style. >> and as you saw what she said today, you know, people smarting and really angry with her, you know, i'm sorry for them but the country loves it. >> laura: the country love the fact that joe biden was pushed aside? >> that kamala has made this a raise again, that tyson bell is is not in play again that she now has more pathways to victory according to the washington post modeled on donald trump. >> laura: what you think from back is up on the three issues that people care about -- >> that's what you will hear him joe biden tonight talk about the -- and the capital steps. 500,000 -- >> donald trump killed 500,000 people, that is their argument? >> we have to remember what life was like -- >> laura: nah -- >> the swamp of the bureaucracy. >> laura: so you're basically saying that biden will argue that donald trump wanted to kill people for -- >> and he will have to remind people of how that goes these were and that will --

>> laura: chy-mac when it's in my condition was pretty good. michael catalog have you on, thank you for drawing out here in chicago. liquid showed up, jesse watters. >> jesse: it's so racist but they couldn't keep me out. i'm here and this is probably the most boring seeing i've ever seen in my entire life compare this to milwaukee, everyone was excited. this place is dead. this place, you can hear a pin drop. i don't know who these people are. 's and like an actual convention that your boss makes you go to let you don't want to go to. >> laura: i thought joe biden in the motorcade walking, you know, kind kind of come by, we were all trapped on the corner of the street and he was looking outside the window. i think he looked right at me and we had a moment. >> jesse: you locked eyes? >> laura: we did and he is like why are we in washington? have a great show, that cp mack will be watching. >> jesse: thank you very much. think -- wait to see you as always. >> ♪ ♪