>> now, listen, i made a lot of promises in 2008, we have manad to fulfill a large number of them but even i was not crazy enough to suggest that during these 8 years we would see the cubs win the world series. >> bret: we should note that former first lady michelle obama was a cubs fan and was back then as well. we will hear from both owens at the democratic national convention tonight. we have got you covered all week long, "primetime" conch tonight, 10:00 p.m. eastern, martha mccallum and i will anchor that we will hear from the obamas and all of the "primetime" speeches and always thanks for having us into your home tonight. we will keep it fair, balanced and still unafraid. "the ingraham angle" starts right now. ♪ >> laura: hey, everybody, i'm laura ingraham and this is "the ingraham angle" from day two of

the democratic national convention. here in chicago. they are playing tell me something good. one of my favorite songs. biden is out and kamala is in. the torch has officially been passed. and tonight's theme is a bold vision for america's future. not to be confused with thursday's theme of for our future what's the difference? tonight's big draw the return of barack obama. now, let's go live to the convention floor where peter doocy, fox news chief white house correspondent is standing by. peter, what can we expect to see tonight in the glow bama that is going to be lighting up the place? >> peter: we're told, laura we can expect a show run a little bit closer to on time as we all know because we were all here last night watching they say it was because there was too much applause. i guess they weren't planning on

people clapping for the first night of a convention. but they pushed the president, joe biden, past "primetime." they were going to try to avoid that with barack obama. they want him speaking in the prime slot when everybody is watching. so we're told they are making some real time changes to the program. what is happening all around us right now. you can see people are being seated for the roll call vote. these are washington, d.c. delegates, more e sighted for joe biden a month ago or kamala harris now? >> i'm excited for both of them. democrats are going to do well in the country. >> peter: how old are you guys? >> i'm 20 years old. >> peter: you guys have not seen barack obama in a situation like this, right? >> what do you mean? bret. >> peter: you probably haven't been to a big obama speech. >> who are you more excited for? >> pardon me? >> peter: who are you more excited for. >> i am excited to be talking to you guys.

those are washington, d.c. delegates. as we continue to make our way. something that we noticed with 15,000 credentials with the media, a lot of what is happening on the convention floor is you are just standing in a line to try to get different places. so, laura, we are going to see barack obama and michelle obama. kamala harris not here. she will pop up a couple minutes in milwaukee. that is where she is choosing to be tonight. back to you. >> laura: all right. thank you, peter. there are a lot of fun memes out there. you have seen them. cam rad kamala, and the angle's original kamala chameleon. now a new one. how about kamala the kill joy. americans i eyes and ears a little bit common sense see the slick joyful branding for what it is. it is a cover for something far more sinister. i like to call it socialism with a smile.

it's a seething disdain for tens of millions of americans who still support donald trump and his policies. now they tell us that the dnc was a celebration of joe biden last night in a joyful turning of the page it's all lies. first they were ready to go scorched earth against joe biden just one month ago. and, second, beyond the obama nostalgia tonight and boy is it going to be on overload, there is not much joy in this convention hall. certainly not compared to what we saw at the rnc. what really gets the proud pumped up, it's not love and it's not optimism, it's hatred and retribution. >> play on the american conscience. >> donald trump would sell this country for a dollar if it meant lining his own pockets and greasing the palms of his wall street friends. >> trump hasn't spent much time in new york lately.

except that is to get convicted of 34 felonies. [cheers] these just fine with us. >> dick day or two on day one. we save democracy in 2020 and now we must save it again in 2024. [cheers] >> laura: yeah, right after the coup that kicked him out. so welcome to the dnc, everyone. have a great time. it's part freak show, part revenge play. they don't get this mad, i don't think, at the terrorists in gaza, they don't get this upset about china for committing genocide in tibet. certainly not that mad at russia crushing ukrainian forces. but listen to kentucky governor andy beshear saying the most horrific things about j.d. vance and his family. >> j.d. vance calls pregnancy resulting from rape inconvenient. inconvenience is traffic. i mean, make him go through t

this. >> laura: he was given the chance to clean up that disgusting comment after j.d. vance called him out beshear did not. >> it's ridiculous and also deflection. as a man j.d. vance will never have to face any of this personally. but it's sad that he lacks the empathy to be able to put himself in a different position. >> laura: yeah, he was implying that j.d. vance's family should have to undergo a rape to really understand. this nice guy. i understand that people aren't always the most eloquent. but when he said it, he meant it, and he wants you to know that he is not backing down. so is this what kentucky elected him toy do? is that part of the joy campaign? is be a vicious national spokesman for abortion? i have this funny idea they elected someone like a beshear. by the way he wants to be in the senate, to run the common wealth. but the die hard here at the dnc. they don't really care about raising our standard of living. they don't care about lowering energy costs for working families. they don't care about our

declining military recruitment. you are not going to hear anything about that here. not care about how many migrants in america. not far from where we are broadcasting tonight. what they're really committed to doing is to punishing donald trump and all of his followers. so, how are they passing the torch when they are stuck in a bitter time warp laced with lies? >> extremists coming out of the woods, carrying torches. their veins bulging, so emboldened by a president then in the white house that they saw as an ally. this will be the first presidential election since january 6th. on that day, we almost lost everything about who we are as a country and that threat -- this is not hyperbole. that threat is still very much alive. >> laura: any time politician says that's not hyperbole that

is hyperbole. where get in. staying in california right now for a couple weeks. david plouffe a top adviser to harris' presidential campaign told ax yost today the democracy theme what you heard biden say last night it's going to be hit hard all week. biden has tried this argument for years. it didn't work. so, again tonight, i say what happened to joy? what happened to the vibes? are they already running out of ideas? i mean, beyond the free have a vasectomies and abortion that is. it seems like it. i remember the lock her up chant. they made a big deal of that at the trump rallies in 2016. whatever you think it, seemed to me they were chanted all in good fun. but these people, these people are serious. [. [chanting]

>> laura: look at her nodding. they aren't here to work with republicans. they want to crush republicans in all traditionally minded americans. now we know the democrats' freedom agenda. you will hear a lot about that but it's a crock. their idea of fundamental freedoms. they are not the constitutional ones, second amendment, first amendment, no. it's about ensuring more abortions, more late term ones, more pot, more porn, more dei giveaways. how inspiring. and kamala doesn't for a second think that she is going to be the president of all the people. and the little bone they are going to throw to the little man adam kinzinger this week it means nothing. it's a cheap nod to fake bipartisan. he is not a republican at all. he is just an angry dominicanive chap who needs friends. by contrast when trump talks about working with the democrats to rebuild american cities, he actually means it, because he has worked with democrats for most of his lifelong before politics. again, this is all about the

policies, as he has told us back in february, his success will be the best revenge. joining us now mary katharine ham fox news contributor, kelly mckee white. steam boat institute. mary katharine, what where saul the joy. last night back to the dark brandon moments. what is going on. >> i'm actually surprised. i know they are doing fan service for the room. it should partly be for swing voters out there watching. i'm not sure it is. the only smart thing they do the kamala harris campaign has done in this has to shift off democracy is in trouble. the republicans are going to go down in flames messaging because it wasn't working for voters. >> laura: plouffe said we're going to do it all week. >> i don't think it's a good idea. campaign about nothing gets asked no questions is better than the one about democracy dying. >> laura: kayleigh, this is an odd moment because biden tried. this it wasn't successful, and is he actually a better speaker than she is. >> this is how they feel though, i think the best representation

of where the democratic party's mind is at, was actually a few blocks away yesterday at the anti-israel protest. i got the feeling. i went there, i spoke with many of the young adults out there my age protesting. i realized something that the same ideology under pinning those anti-israel protests leading them to call kamala killer kamala is the exact same ideology that the democratic party has been running on for years. they didn't get terms like settler or genocide from nowhere. they got them from democratic controlled institutions. from universities, from corporations. and that's why joe biden got up on that stage last night and could not condemn them because he actually shares their ideology and it's vindictive. it's angry and that is why no matter how hard they try to push the joyful front, they can't do it. >> laura: one thing i found historically funny of all the things happening here when hillary clinton got up, this was the old natal gentleman tour

with hillary. listen to how angry this sounds. >> i see freedom. i see the freedom to make our own decisions about our health, to speak our minds freely and honestly. i see freedom from fear and intimidation from violence and injustice from chaos and corruption. >> i mean, we just had the pro-palestinian protesters basically shut down washington a couple of weeks ago. ripping down statues, defacing statues, and she is talking about oh, we got to keep it all calm? >> that was wild. i don't know if they are trying to break my brain but i lived through the last four years, i lived through code. they are talking about code to make medical decisions. >> you can't. >> be kind to your neighbor. we are about joy and letting you mind your business. you started a snitch line tim walz for feel call the police on their neighbors for having cookouts with too many people. this is like a recurring theme.

they are trying to recast as something different but you see the tone and you see what they actually believe when you hear these speeches. and, you know, biden is going to the well of the people on both sides and does his own people on both sided about pro-hamas protesters outside. and then he hits the blood bath thing. they are addicted to this type of messaging and i don't know if he this get out of this week or the next couple months. >> laura: michigan senator gary peters on the stage. he said yesterday that kamala needs to be clear that her views on the war in gaza are different from biden. translation, you need to appeal to the anti-semitics in their party. there is another reason why peter's remarks are significant tonight. set chair of the democrat senate committee and a handful of his most vulnerable candidates, kayleigh, jon tester, sherrod brown, jacky rosen, they are otherwise occupied. they didn't make it to the dnc in it's all about love joy and

optimism. why are they here, kayleigh. >> they know it's a risk to their campaign. it's kind of the ironic factor. you know, being here for the past couple of days, you get the sense that these people are perpetually stuck in 2016. >> laura: and 2020. >> and 2020. trump's campaign tweeted this out earlier that yesterday during the speeches on that stage, they mentioned donald trump's name 134 times they mentioned immigration 8 times. they mentioned the economy even less. they don't want to talk about the issues. they don't wants to move forward. they want this to be about donald trump. >> laura: do you think it's unfair of me to conclude that this really seems like a revenge play out there? when you saw their faces, when you saw those chants, they were most excited when trump's face went on the stage and it was get him, get him behind bars. >> i think anti-trumpism is what animates the democratic party. and they can't leave that part of them behind. right? they have to use that to get the base together and get them

excited because they were not excited a nongt ago. >> laura: now the teamsters are walking out on stage with gary -- is that with gary peters. yeah, with gary peters they are all walking on stage. they are making a big play of this. kaylee, the uaw for instance, the union head out there speaking for kamala harris, what's going to happen to the auto industry with these ev mandates? they are going to lose their jobs. this industry is going to be killed but i'm glad the union leader, is he going to have his invite to the white house. >> listen, i'm from detroit, my parents are great friends with at love people who work in the auto industry. all of my neighborhoods work for ford or g.m. or stellantis. they are not working for kamala harris. they are very frustrated the specifically with the green energy agenda. they know their jobs are on the line. >> laura: don't you agree the rank and file union workers, trump visited with in new york people he was with the other day, those are hard corps conservatives. >> there is quite clearly a

split between the more well off upper crust of the union leadership and rank and file. that's something that's been happening for years and they have been celebrating and donald trump has been able to message to them. >> when he met with them he said look it's this is not about the next two weeks. it's this is about the survival of your industry. they are going to make a big show of it because they have to there is no substance that's going to be discussed in press interviews by kamala harris. do you agree that those press interviews aren't going to happen? >> no, because the one she did on the tarmac a couple days ago went so poorly for her she is going to run and hide. >> laura: wait seanged. kaylee mcghee big return in investments. mary katharine and kaylee, thank you both very much. >> we care about public safety. we need to prevent gun violence. [cheers] [applause] which it makes me ashamed when i travel the world, which i do. more children in america are killed by a gunshot than any

other cause in the united states. more i do die from a bullet, ca, accidents or anything else. in the united states of america. my god! that's why kamala and i are proud we beat the nra and passed the first major gun safety law in 30 years. >> laura: biden made his proud announcement on the same day 8 people were shot, three of them killed in chicago. the truth is democrats really aren't focused on making your lives better. policies are going to make you richer, safer, happier. we didn't hear any of that last night or today. i suspect tonight there is going to be a lot ofically says and bureau my and nostalgia for the obamas. but the dnc is really driving home the message that the biggest thing they care about is not the american people, but defeating trump.

just like at who they talked about yesterday. trump's name was brought up as cailee said about 160 times. the economy, number one issue in the country mentioned 28 times. the border 8 times. crime, just six. joining us now is chicago city council alderman raymond lopez. great to see you. democrats winning any new voters at this convention? >> i highly doubt it. i think this is all playing to their own base, not trying to recruit new people. clearly the democratic party, my party is not interested in talking about what matters. how are you going to keep people safe? how are you going to secure the border and deal with the 8 million undocumented individuals that they let in under kamala harris' lead. >> laura: a bunch of folks came up to me. i went for a little exercise today, walking all around and navy pier. people live in chicago. they lo this city. and they are really mad, still mad and it's not even -- it's not a political response. this is just a common sense desire for a better life.

and i'm not hearing any policies about how to recruit one of them said we were down, what a thousand law enforcement officers in chicago, i believe is that correct number? >> almost 2,000. >> laura: i'm like the bureau of labor statistics, i'm off by 10. that is a problem. and why aren't he discussing things like that. >> right now in this beauty pageant of hypocrisy going on. >> laura: beauty pageant of hypocrisy. >> we say one thing and doing the exact opposite. you have the most american of american cities where we are telling people to come here, feel welcome and enjoy our beautiful city and 100 percent it's a beautiful city. but, yet, we had to board up every single store in the surrounding area to keep it safe from looters and rioters that our mayor, brandon johnson has welcomed here and colors are pitiful. >> are you supporting kamala harris? >> i haven't decided because even when joe biden was asking for the democratic party's endorsement here, i was the lone

democrat i'm not going to jump in and endorse him. i see what the immigration situation has done to neighborhoods. >> laura: i saw it out there today. >> we got no answers. we get no support. there is no plan for the future. that really bothers me as we move forward. >> laura: government funded provides up to 15,000 in rental assistance for six months for asylum seekers. more of a priority. than the regular -- chicago people. i saw a lot of people on drugs, a lot of homeless. >> we have every day chicagoans struggling to pay rent. getting no support. we even have our own national guard who are here this week to protect us sleeping in the hallways of the police headquarters because we couldn't put them in hotels. we have whole hotels dedicated to the undocumented asylum seekers. >> laura: alderman, everything you are saying to me indicates that you want to support donald trump. you want to support him. come on. >> you want to support trump. >> with nobody in the background, i want to support a

president that's going to do right by our communities, do right by our country. i'm tired of this anger-driven hysteria. because what i haven't heard at any point halfway through this convention. >> laura: trump is literally voicing all the concerns that you have. >> and i will give trump credit. because he at least is putting himself out there with proposals and plans and allowing to take questions where all i'm getting is trust me when we get there. >> laura: the water is warm. come on over. put your toe in. it's all right. >> sadly more democrats are feeling the same way. >> laura: your views have a lot of support on the streets of chicago. that's what i found. alderman, thank you very much. thank you for coming on. all right. democrats desperately moving they will do anything to try to win. what does that mean? we're on it, next. ♪ playing)

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>> there is a duality to the nature of democracy, incredibly strong. and incredibly fragile. >> we need to preserve our democracy. in 2024, we need you to vote i little ironic maybe since he is the guy got thrown out by his own party, a month and a breath ago thrown out like a cheap rug. the democrats are ruthless they will do anything if this means they have a real shot at

winning. >> sometimes you just have to take a punch for the children. [laughter] >> and that's what you are doing right now you? are just going to take the punch for the children? >> who is purging right now? >> i don't know. >> everybody wants to have a fight with nancy pelosi at this time. >> do you know what? i have have to do what i have to do. >> right. >> he made the decision for the country. >> >> laura: do you know what we call her nancy the gavel pelosi. okay. don't mess with nancy. but biden revealed last night that the two have grown a bit distant over the past month, shocking, since before he officially dropped out of the race. joining me now is minnesota congressman dean phillips former 2024 democratic candidate for president. congressman, you primaried biden and the democrats tried to shut you out. now they are the party of saving democracy. why didn't they give democracy a shot when you were concerned? well, i will tell you, laura, that was my mission. this is universal. i wouldn't say one party is exceptional at the practice of democracy right now. and i believe in competition. i was terribly disappointed that my party shut it down.

i think we shouldn't be suppressing debate. we shouldn't be canceling people. we should be having more it. and that's my mission right now. was i disappointed? yeah. but am i pleased with the outcome? i actually really am. not pleased that we didn't have a thoughtful competition but pleased that the man who i respect but was not going to win was kind of enough, thoughtful enough and had enough courage to actually hand power over which is not. >> laura: do you think he wrote that letter? do you think he wrote that resignation left. >> no. he probably had help which is what all presidents have help. look, i want to celebrate, it's really rare in human history let alone american history where those in power electively hand it over. >> laura: not electively, nancy the gavel pelosi told him you know it? >> of course. >> laura: she said here is how it going to go down, joe, mr. president. you are either going to get out or get you out. you have got 24 hours. >> it goes to show that nancy pelosi had a little bit of a more heavy gavel than this guy

did. >> laura: all right, congressman, tim kaine said biden made his decision to drop out based on bad poll numbers. then, joe biden on the tarmac last night said. this. >> go back and look at the numbers. we weren't that far behind. it was like we talked about how this was -- we were getting blown out. that's not what we saw. but what happened though, if the discussion had been was i going to cost seats for democrats, that would have been the whole subject matter. >> laura: yeah, well that's true. tim kaine said his comments about biden getting out because of the numbers after that. i mean, biden didn't want to get out. he was forced out. this rewriting of the narrative, so you can stand up here tonight and talk about how we are going to save democracy from donald trump. did donald trump leave office on january 20th? 2021 or not. >> he ultimately did, of course he did. >> laura: you think that democracy will end if joe biden's successor, kamala harris does not end?

>> i do not believe democracy will end. do i have grave concerns about donald trump's character? yes, i do. i'm not going to lie about that. same grave concern about republicans colleagues, i don't. it is a sneak disease, i think, across the board in american politics where we have too many people willing to be silent. too many people focused on self-preservation instead of principle and too many people willing to be quiet and walk the company line simply to ascend that letter. >> laura: they quieted you down. >> my side did it and frankly, laura, most of my republican colleagues excoreiated donald trump privately in the halls of congress. who did donald trump i mean, where was the effort to silence his opponents? >> where was the effort? >> laura: republican opponents. he didn't make any effort. >> i'm not throwing stones. all i'm saying is that no, i don't think democracy is in peril. donald trump lacks character that is true. >> laura: we have never had presidents before, including. so best presidents who had any character issues, congressman? >> look, i think it's fair to

say every human being has character issues. laura, look, i know most people watching right now probably adore president trump. i spent time with him in the white house. i saw both sides. but the side that so many find distasteful and also the side. >> laura: kamala says gernzers are dumb is that good character when she said they are stupid. all the newspaper articles came out and said her staffer hated her and quit because she was a nightmare to work for. is that all roses and sunshine for kamala harris? i don't think so. >> there is no roses and sunshine in american politics. >> laura: here it. >> i would say we have angertainment industry have us believe we sore utterly divided it's irretrievable. that is not true. i will tell you i went to a donald trump rally when i was campaigning in new hampshire back in the winter of '23. i was met with hand shakes and friendship and hospitality and decency. >> laura: you should be a republican. >> i should be a republican. >> laura: that's why you are

basically a republican. i'm recruiting a lot of people tonight into the republican party. >> did i not know this would be recruitment hour but my point is to anybody watching, all of us, give each otherrance challenge. most of us are decent people. give each other a chance and i want to see more debate and more policy conversation. >> laura: we are not seeing a lot of that here. do you think she is going to win? >> i will tell you a month ago, i would have said first of all, when joe biden was running it, it was so clear. polls were awful. >> laura: you think she is going to win. >> i thought would be closer. but right now, laura, right now, based on what i'm feeling, sensing both in my district and this room around the country, i think -- i think the tables are turning. it's going to be a cut throat down to the wire race. i would bet now after having bet that trump would win this entire year, i think that she is going to win. primarily because she selected a guy who i think can finally speak to voters in the part of the country. >> laura: you just took my breath away. congressman, to be continued. it's great to have you on the

show. >> any time, laura. >> laura: minnesota is near and dear to my heart. >> right back at you. thank you. >> laura: kamala hoping the honeymoon neverends.

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>> laura: we're back in chicago for day two of the dnc. and now that they have sent jill and joe packing, they are trotting out the closest thing they have to a political deity, the obamas. socialist senator bernie sanders is first. he will speak, then michelle and then mr. hope and change himself. one problem. kamala is no barack obama. and never could be. he had charisma, really smart, won a bunch of primaries, was able to excite voters in a way that's really hard to replicate once every 60 years or so.

in 2008 obama won a staggering 95% of the black vote. but in a new morning consult poll has kamala at just 72%. trump is polling 21% of the black vote. what was it 10 or 11 points, 9 points last time around? that could be a game changer for him. mark cartser chicago resident and activist. also with me cyrus. a former democrat now voting for donald trump. cyrus, you voted for biden last time around? why the change? biden let in so many illegal democrats and hear democrats talk about immigrants and how to they have to protect them so frustrating. gangs and illegal immigrants walking through the neighborhoods. we have to see them dig not guilty garbage cans and really crazy. the media doesn't see it but normal every day chicagoans we see it everyday. >> laura: i saw it today out on the streets. mark, everyone should know they just did a big group photo got everyone to that's an

pleasurement, they checked that box tonight. mark, this really is i think the issue along with just earning power of all americans, but especially disadvantage americans and black men are citing this issue of the economy. what about that? >> oh, yeah. you know, this economy is crushing our communities. we see where resources are being given to illegal immigrants versus american citizens. and so it's killing our community, it's causing mass murder. it's going to -- i mean, just shock and awe black america. we f. we don't put a stop to this. that is putting a stop to me supporting donald trump. >> why do you think black women though, cyrus, they are very much on board with kamala harris? they are all in on kamala harris? what's the divide between black women and black men politically that seems to be developing? >> i think a lot of black men have been incarcerated a lot of our uncles and fathers have been in jail. a lot of people older black men can relate to.

that is like the system going up donald trump. overall he is just a gangster. he tells it like it is. he keeps it real. i think with black women, unfortunately, a lot of celebrities, a the loft media, the bet awards, for example, that play as big influence. >> michael shingleton gelton was on cnn today talking about black men migrating to the republican party. this was his take. >> black men are seen in many ways the erosion of their economic power black men are not graduating college at the same rates of black women. men in general are not graduating from college or ascertaining the same economic gains. i do think that as a part of the reason have you seen since the end of former president obama's tenure a movement of men broadly speaking to republicans. >> laura: is trump in his views which are more populist and common sense than sending all our money overseas, is that what is doing it here ised that the big change? >> on top of that, we have a

large group that biden, sorry about that, trump freed from biden mass incarceration plans so, trump freed victims of joe biden. >> laura: criminal justice reform. >> yeah, criminal justice reform and men in general going to go with trump because he represents that strong hand, that strength that america needs against countries like russia and china and places like that. this lady is not ready for. >> cyrus, i was thinking about that fact, the fact that trump brought all these people into the oval office. i covered it. the criminal justice reform effort, van jones from cnn, he was like all on board with this. and he got almost no credit for that i mean, he might as well have been just kicking the can down the road because the press, basically gave it a b yawn. people are not as dumb as

democrats think they are. >> they live in a world where republicans are evil and racist. we live in the real world where we can see the effect of donald trump's policy, how it benefited a lot of black people. how johnson, for example, a lot of black people who have been freed from the incarceration, we know biden's crime bill, we know kamala harris was busted out by tulsi gabbard last debate. we are not falling for the propaganda. we are in the holiday, you most people in my hood are stumping for trump i'm definitely stumping for trump,. >> you think that 21% figure mark is accurate? >> going to go even higher so we look at groups like black patients for is you look at go red for our organization. men in general, we are going to go from state to state on behalf of trump. right after this democratic national convention, we are going to deal them a terrible blow. >> i love. this this is the best ever. mark. >> go red. we saying go red. >> all the way. >> you got the jacket. >> all the way. >> laura: all right, guys, great

to see both of you. coming up, joe and kamala like to fib or lie about how many jobs they created. but it turns out the numbers are fudged even more than they thought. plus the roll call vote for kamala beginning any moment. grip the edge of your seat because i know you can't wait. we will bring it to you, next. ♪

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600,000 but up to oh just a million jobs. no big deal. joining us now maria bartiromo, anchor of "sunday morning futures" and mornings with maria on fox business. maria, this could be the largest revision downward or upward in 15 years. but i'm sure it's just a convenient coincidence, i should say. >> it's incredible, laura, i mean, you are talking up to a million jobs that were basically fake that we thought they were there but they weren't. and tomorrow we're going to hear from the bureau of labor statistics on exactly how many

jobs were actually nonexistent. what happens is the bureau of labor statistics reports job numbers every month. as you know, the first friday of the month. they do that based on a survey of businesses. but, then they get the -- just from employers, but then they get the state tax records, and then that encompasses all jobs. they have to revise it. people are questioning why it is that we are over here celebrating all this job creation every month, joe biden coming out doing press conferences telling us how great his economy is and how he created all these jobs. only to see a massive revision several months later. so we're talking about from march to march is what they're going to report tomorrow. and from march to march, march 2023 to march 2024, there were 2.9 million jobs created, we thought. but, they are going to revise that up to a million jobs lower. >> laura: now, maria, people made investment decisions based

on those numbers, correct? i mean, this is not just. >> absolutely. >> laura: this isn't just a rounding number. this is a real scandal. there needs to be like an investigation as to how this could happen. it's a regular people, this just looks like putting the finger on the scale to make joe biden look better and kamala harris look better going into an election cycle. to regular people, maybe that's not what happened. but to regular people, that's what it looks like. >> of course, because you are saying oh, we thought that it was 242,000 jobser month. for the last year. and, in fact, the philadelphia federal reserve is saying that it's more like 130,000 jobs. every month. how do you have such wide disparity in exactly how many jobs there were and how many jobs you reported there were? so we will see we will see how this is perceived by markets thrmt is going to raise the exception that we are going to go into a recession in the coming months. here is a report from evercore

saying that the likelihood of a recession within six months is actually heightened now given this question about the job creation. >> laura: oh my god. >> maria: we are probably going to see impact on the market. certainly people questioning what the labor department tells us every month in terms of job creation. the bigger. >> laura: i'm sorry, maria, i think every american watching tonight has to realize that this was the shining glory of their economic bragging, okay? this is what their bragging point was, jobs created. the media reported it. all the press poodles, biden-harris, walz, all of them. nancy pelosi, over and over again, and we find out in the middle of the democratic convention that it was a fraud, that number was fraudulent. it was wrong. and i think it was fraudulent. what are they going to do tell the fed to lower interest rates to help them again in the cycle. >> learn tomorrow.

if we learn the economy is weaker than everybody thought. more bets that the federal reserve is going to lower interest rates in september. don't forget though that is facing the tsunami of spending. so disingenuous to come out and say that the reason we have inflation where it is up 20% on joe biden and kamala harris' watch is because of price gouging. i mean,. >> laura: come on. >> maria: so disingenuous to price gouging and not mention 71 billion-dollar in spends. democrats and all their spending. >> laura: economics 101, maria, always great to see you. thank you so much. all right. the dnc's big party, the celebratory role call vote just began but kamala is already the democrat's official nominee. joining me now. bill hemmer co-host of "america's newsroom." bill, what's going on down there the pomp and the circumstance and all the fun? >> bill: hit a bit of a wall a moment here, laura. good evening to you. getting ready for first roll

call, rather. rather perfunctory because we know that kamala harris' name is the only one in there. so we will get that going here in a couple minutes as you hear the delegates roar here. laura, what we have been watching the last hour or so are videos here in the arena from republicans who say think will not vote for donald trump. >> videos from women who have talked about abortion. remember, the female vote is a significant part of this convention for all four nights here. what we haven't heard is who kamala harris is. what she has done in her life, what she has done as vice president. what she would do as president, and we have heard nothing about tim walz. i think you would be challenged to find a lot of delegates who really know his resume very well here thus far going into night two. now, the job for that goes to her husband, the first gentleman, whos will speak on her behalf and it goes to barack obama whose hometown is here in

chicago. jim masena was on with cavuto earlier today and he called barack obama the explainer in chief. is he going to come out and make this bring from kamala harris away from joe biden and into kamala harris explain where the party is. >> why it is where it is and where it's headed so that's the big job. now, if you thought that last night was expected to be a classy send off for joe biden. i think you can make a pretty good case that well, after midnight or 12:30 on the east coast it was not the classy send off that perhaps a lot of people here in chicago with the dnc had expected. having said that, laura, i just looked at the schedule. central time is listed. barack obama is expected to come out, according to this schedule now, at 10:00 local time. which would hit him well into the 11:00 east coast hour as well. so, i don't know if we're up against it again like we were last night or if they are going to cut out a lot of things in this program. but, right now that's how it reads and we will see how it goes momentarily when the roll

call vote gets underway. back upstairs to you, laura. >> laura: all right. thanks so much. kills me to hear lynyrd skynyrd playing sweet home alabama. that's okay alabama gets its say. joining me now marc thiessen former speech writer to george w. bush. we had hidin' biden. >> yep >> laura: now we have duck and cover kamala. hyden and sliden biden and duck and cover kamala. she will try to get through this election cycle without giving a major interview through-to-a real journalist. >> oh, 100 percent. she is rising in the polls right now, it's a sugar high, because all it is that she is not an oxygen narn who has dementia. that's why people are excited about her. she is the least examined major party nominee probably in american history. she didn't make it through the primary, she didn't make it to iowa the first time around. she didn't go through a primary this time around which means she didn't have a debate where democrats attacked her record. she haunt done a single town

hall tan questions have frorts. not a major interview and press conference. only going to do one debate. we all know one debate can ruin a presidential campaign. there great opportunity there for donald trump. >> laura: has that happened before in presidential politics. >> ronald reagan only had one debate with jimmiment carter. they agreed to two. so joe biden took one of the she get a pass because the former nominee got to have take one of her debates? they agreed to two debates. they should do at least two. one debate can end a presidential campaign. we just saw that with joe biden. >> laura: don't you agree that the meme campaign and the joyful stuff, that's all going to kind of fall away in the debate and it's going to be bait donald trump. to me, that's what they're going to prep her to do to bait him january 6th. >> charlottesville or go back to you don't like the way i look. it's going to be that kind of. >> going to try to get him off

his game. if he goes out of the debate the way he wasn't into the debate. focuses on the record and lays the traps and lets her fall into them. she is just as inartic could lated joe biden without the excuse of age. >> you need to give her a chance to get off the item prompter and let her fall on her own face. she dual it. she hasn't given anything without a teleprompter yet. got to be invery dibly disciplined in may be the one time we get her queen for an unscripted moment. >> laura: well, there is american samoa just gave the roll call. we got the d.j. up there and cassidy, the dj. so, hopefully that will get everyone jazzed up. mark, you wrote a great piece about the two factors that are most important in understanding the support that donald trump has and that kamala's vulnerabilities really quickly what those are. >> two statistics you need to understand why -- what biden was saying yesterday fell flat is on

biden and harris' watch americans have gone from the highest personal savings ever reported to the highest personal debt ever reported. all the savings was spent down, they got record credit card debt and record personal card debt and record interest rates means they can't get out of that debt and compounding every month. >> laura: real life. r.f.k. has now -- apparently they are trying to figure out whether join forces with trump. >> wow. >> laura: that would make a huge difference. >> that would indeed. i agree. 100 percent. >> laura: deciding whether to drop out or join forces with trump to beat the party that refused to allow him to have a real debate within the party. that. >> would be quite a thing to have the son of robert kennedy endorsing the republican party for president. >> laura: in the end it would have been a mistake to shun him aside as they did. >> i think very much so, yes. >> we appreciate it. thank you so much, mark, fabulous column, look who just showed up. >> hey, what's up, laura. >> laura: where is he.

great to see you. d.j. killed me to hear sweet home alabama played. >> jesse: can you believe they played sweet home alabama at the dnc. when they showed the alabama flag i thought a lot of the people were going to lose it. no alabama flag at the dnc. >> laura: a lot of love and joy and sounded like a lot of hate last night. they get that bulging veins. >> jesse: hating trump gives them joy. that's what brings joy to the democrats. >> laura: is it hard for them when obama gets on stage, michelle, bernie sanders, they be electric personalities is, that a hard comparison for kamala to be on stage? >> jesse: i definitely wouldn't want to have to speak after those people. it's a big night and bernie, i'm really looking forward to bernie sanders, when bernie endorses kamala that's not the endorsement you want. >> laura: jesse, take it away my friend. >> jesse: thank you so much, laura, i really appreciate it.