truck load of groceries. that isn't happening today. >> ainsley: federal ban on grocery price gouging. she will go in and dictate what you will charge for eggsened milk. state a.gs whip vest gait and impose penalties. meat processing middle men and competition in meat production. will this plan pass in congress? >> i am -- i guess for me i try and stay in my lane. i'm passionate about selling groceries at a fair price. so that is where my concern is. i don't know the ins and outs of this plan. the way things are going right now it isn't right for our consumers. >> ainsley: thank you so much. god bless you and wish you the best. bye, everybody. >> dana: we begin with breaking news. former president trump about to attend a wreath laying ceremony

at arlington national cemetery honoring the 13 u.s. service members killed at abbey gate in afghanistan. we'll bring it to you live as it happens. but first. israel and hezbollah exchanging heavy fire. idf revealing it thwarted a major attack by terror group hezbollah. israeli prime minister netanyahu says the fighting is far from over. good morning, i'm dana perino. great to have you here with me. >> i'm bret baier in the u.s. is working to tamp down tensions between israel and iran, the jewish state has been bracing for retaliation since the killing of two top terrorists last month. tehran is still vowing to retaliate saying its response will be definitive. >> dana: american assets on stand by to defend israel as the biden administration works to

avoid all-out war. >> we have been concerned about the conflict escalating into an all-out regional war since october 7th and worked around the clock moving military assets, engaging in intensive diplomacy publicly and privately behind the scenes to avert that outcome. >> bret: general jack keane is here with analysis. first live to trey yengst in tel aviv. good morning, trey. >> good morning. after israel launched preemptive strikes against hezbollah over the weekend the region waits to see what comes next. we know the iran-backed group claimed victory in sunday's exchange of fire claiming without evidence that they targeted only military positions and fired close to tel aviv. the reality is that 2/three of the rockets and missiles they prepared to launch were destroyed by the israeli military. hezbollah leader warned of further attacks in the future when he addressed lebanon from an undisclosed bunker as the

region surveys the after math of the events over the weekend, joint chiefs chairman brown was in israel today for meetings. he spoke privately with israel's defense minister. the top u.s. general's visit comes with american assets spread throughout the region to deter iran and its prox less. amid concerns about further attacks and israelis on high alert. >> we've been fighting this organization for ten months and we know they want to harm us and waiting for the moment when we are not prepared or alert. and our systems are not high up. so we're keeping our alerts and defense up. >> today israel launched a targeted strength against a car in southern lebanon as the israeli air force continues to go after hezbollah. also multiple alerts sounding today in northern israel amid incoming rocket fire. today's cease-fire talks continue at a lower level. both sides at the table indirectly and there are hopes from american officials that

successful talks in egypt could help to de-escalate tension across the region. >> bret: what are you hearing from officials on both sides? >> i spoke with the senior israeli defense official overnight who was hopeful these talks in cairo coming to a first phase of deal. but hamas is not so happy with where things stand now. they say the current cease-fire talks are not linked to what they a agreed upon in july. a senior hamas official sent me a powerpoint with a list of demands from the organization. the key demand from hamas is keeping israel out of the philadelphia corridor that key strip of land between gaza and egypt. bret. >> bret: trey, thanks. >> dana: general jack keane is here with us. we're awaiting president trump at arlington national cemetery and might have to cut to that. in the meantime we'll ask you about that as well. in the meantime tell us about your thoughts regarding america's help to israel over

the weekend to thwart those attacks? >> certainly we've seen two major retaliation attacks. one by iran back in october 13th and one just recently by hezbollah this weekend. both for the same reason. to retaliate for israel killing significant leaders. in both of those, the united states obviously had a hand. in the first one u.s. led coalition intercepted many of the drones and missiles use using aircraft to do it in addition to intelligence. on this one the united states provided intelligence in terms of early warning as did the israelis systems themselves. that really turned out to be quite significant because it enabled them to conduct a preemptive strike to take down literally 2/three of the systems that would have been involved in hezbollah's attack. so israel displayed an upper hand in both attacks.

one by iran and one by hezbollah as the results of -- both iran and looks like hezbollah is de-escalating as a result of this. so that's obviously a good outcome from what we could have been something disastrous. >> bret: the strike takes out that threat, at least temporarily from hezbollah. we didn't see iran really live up to its retaliation claims and israel is just preemptively trying to protect itself in both of these cases. >> the iranians are still promising to retailiate for the killing of the leader in tehran in the high security zone. interesting enough, they -- this has been a promise for weeks now and they are clearly prioritizing this cease-fire negotiations that are taking

place leading hopefully to hostages being released and a prisoner exchange. that obviously is their priority. i think that is interesting of itself. i've always had the suspicions in the back of my mind that iran, given the last attack and how humiliating it was for them to undergo that because they -- half of their ballistic missile systems failed, that i think with some reluctance they'll retaliate. if they can get this deal done they would take that certainly as opposed to the possibility of another humiliating defeat. but look, iran is the king pin here. they are driving everything. hezbollah's retaliation attack doesn't happen without iran green lighting that attack this weekend. so let's make sure we understand who is behind what is taking place here in the middle east. it is the frustration many of us have with the administration, a lot of emphasis on de-escalation

but not much emphasis on really pinning the rose on iran and enforcing deterrents on them in terms of operationalizing their proxies against israel. >> dana: successful defense does not mean they don't get to think about retaliation from the israeli side. general, i want to take everybody to national -- arlington national cemetery where president trump will be laying a wreath at the ceremony. this is the third anniversary of the abbey gate bombing. i want to make sure i don't talk over this here. let's watch for a moment. >> remain as directed. present arms.

[orders being given to soldiers] >> forward march.

halt. >> dana: general jack keane. we saw president trump to witness the changing of the guard at arlington national cemetery on the third anniversary on the withdrawal from afghanistan which really is still so painful especially for those families there and it

reinforces the significance of our mission as i understand it. there are still 140,000 of our allies waiting in afghanistan to be given the fulfilled promise that they would be able to come here if they were supported -- if they were helped us. that didn't happen but president trump making a point today to show that he still remembers and that he would be a different type of president going forward. general keane, your thoughts. >> well yes, i think what signifies today the very tragic event that took place three years ago, but it was the most seminal serious foreign policy blunder of the biden administration and set? motion the series of events we're dealing with today. because as president biden very

defiantly, i know from people who were in the room, made that decision not to keep troops present in afghanistan over the objections of the entire military chain of command of the six nato nations who wanted to stay there themselves but could not do so without u.s. support, but wanted to stay for their own national interests and protection and we can see why now, as isis is erupting inside of europe, that their judgment was certainly correct in terms of their concerns for their own people's safety. that this decision was made and it set a chain of events in that we see with russia, china, iran, and north korea collaborating and coming closer together and seeing the united states make such a judgment failure in terms of unconditional surrender with a date certain that led to the chaos and tragedy that took place on this day three years ago. that judgment failure, what the

adversaries sees, the united states walking away from an ally that we were fighting with side-by-side for 20 years and being willing to surrender the country to the very adversary that we were fighting. that is the judgment failure that our adversaries saw and they see it as huge political weakness on our part. they have been coming for us ever since. to take advantage of these vulnerabilities because they clearly see opportunity for themselves. it is no accident or isolated that russia moved into ukraine as a result of this decision, because the u.s. weakness. it is not an accident that iran has operationalized all the proxies in the middle east to take advantage of what they believe is u.s. weakness and president xi certainly incentivized by this as well became so aggressive over the last two to three years as a result of it. it is indisputable. you can't walk away from it and

not pin the rose here and connect the dots in terms of what happened. >> bret: general, obviously the trump campaign is using that in talking about foreign policy when going up against vice president harris. just a little background here as you are looking live at arlington national cemetery. three years since that withdrawal in afghanistan that left the 13 u.s. service members dead. three of them are buried at arlington national cemetery. now, the request of hoover and gee, their families, president trump is accompanying those families and will lay a wreath not only there but at each of the fallen soldiers' grave sites. that's the background of the invite and these families have been very outspoken about their dissatisfaction about how they've been treated and how the

investigation into that day, even three years later, general, has unfolded. >> yeah, i find that really disappointing. i've said it before. they should be absolutely complete full disclosure to these families in terms of what we knew and what happened and bring them in and answer every question that they possibly can have about this until there is some degree of satisfaction. honestly, there is nothing we can do to make up for the tragic loss of their loved one and they'll live with that for the rest of their lives. in terms of getting answers and facts, that should be provided. >> bret: let's listen in. >> appropriate for all of us to place the right hand over their heart.

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laying ceremony for the family of darren taylor hoover. one of the things i'm reminded, bret, is of the convention in milwaukee where the families of these lost soldiers were there and i actually obviously everybody got to see them in prime time when they were given a chance to speak. but also had a chance to see them at the hotel and they were in the lobby and somebody said would you mind saying hi to them and an honor to give them a hug. their pain is very real. >> bret: painful and they speak about it quite often publicly. and they've been very critical of the situation. general keane is still with us. you've been through a lot of ceremonies and for these

families three years later is still very real. >> oh, sure. i think it's raw as well because certainly the circumstances. death any time during a war is tragic for the family to handle but at the very end of the war as people are literally leaving, to lose your loved one like that just deepens the pain as a result of it. and then prior to their death the families themselves watching the chaos that's taking place at the airport live and knowing that their loved one is somewhere there helping to safeguard and protect the airport and safeguard the people as much as possible, and then they get caught up in a suicide bomber attack tragically, as we have said 170 afghans killed in that murderous affair as well as our marvelous 13 troops as well. it is just added pain to all of

it. and i'm astounded that the families right now do not have a full accounting in terms of the facts and circumstances and they still don't have all of their questions answered. that troubles me quite a bit because that deals with the institution that i spent most of my adult life associated with and one of the things i always -- i always respected the institution for is being forthright about things that didn't go right. that should certainly be the case here. >> bret: somebody would have paid the price with their job or some kind of repercussions. that hasn't happened in three years. >> yeah. well, it starts with the commander-in-chief. he made this decision unconditional surrender with a date certain, which drove the rapid collapse of the afghan security forces. they knew they couldn't win without the united states air power. and the united states

intelligence and united states support. so that accelerated. the unseen commander, bret, told the president this could happen a lot faster than we think it could and we could find ourselves in this situation, mr. president, where we're actually turning the country over to the taliban. and the answer to that was so be it. i mean, the defiance and arrogance of that statement i find really quite appalling and that's where the rose should be pinned because when he said unconditional surrender by a date certain, that meant we had to rapidly shut down seven military basis, rapidly shut down three c.i.a. bases and pull out of there as soon as we can. >> dana: this is the wreath laying for nichole gee. part of the female engagement team for afghan women and children. let's listen in.

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general keane in a moment. this is nichole gee, the picture she took she was holding a baby there. she was -- she wrote i love my job. general, at the memorial service her good friend said she died proud of who she was, what she was doing and proud to be a u.s. marine. i know that has special significance i know for you, who watched these young people dead indicate their lives to their country and unfortunately this result was just a horrific end to her life. >> yeah. i know she was proud to be there at that moment in a matter of crisis and there she is trying to help people deal with a very difficult situation. and she was right in the middle of it. i'm confident that she and the others who were there were proud to be there representing the

america and trying to bring some stability to what was obviously a very chaotic situation. >> dana: there will be one more wreath laying, bret, one for all of the 13 that were killed at abbey gate that day. president trump starting his day here and then he will go to detroit but he continues on the theme of the day speaking to the national guard center there. >> bret: you think back to chicago we just came out of there, the democratic national convention, and how much was spent on foreign policy in that speech by vice president harris, and specifically on robust foreign policy. almost speaking like former president trump was the incumbent. this issue usually elections aren't turning on foreign policy, but this issue seems to be one in which the afghanistan withdrawal is something that the trump campaign has success

litigating against the harris-biden administration. >> dana: president trump is about to lay the final wreath. whenever a commander-in-chief or former commander-in-chief decides to make an event like this the highlight of his day 71 days to go until the election, i know that the troops are very, very professional but does the messages get back to them about how the candidates would handle it? >> i think what the troops here are participating in, they are very proud to be associated with any ceremony that is taking place at the tomb of the unknown soldier and the soldiers that are doing this, you know, are part of the old guard that are stationed here in washington, d.c. troops around the world they serve a commander-in-chief and that's the way they look at it. they don't look at it politically. they look at the fact that the

president of the united states is their commander-in-chief and he is in the chain of command and if he asks them to do something, they will go out and get it done to the best of their ability. i've seen that time and time again. it is not that they don't have opinions about who should be president, obviously they do. they vote themselves. it is quite remarkable to watch that unfold in our democracy and how a military serves its commander-in-chief loyally unswerving loyalty as a matter of fact with the sense of duty and pride and accomplishment regardless of what party they are from or what the politics are associated with it. >> bret: general, for the people who say the u.s. has managed to deal with the terrorist threat from afghanistan and the taliban government seems to understand that harboring terrorists is not a winning thing for them even in the wake of what was definitely a critical -- criticized as this

chaotic withdrawal, and they say it is working even though it was messy at the end. what do you say? >> well, i don't think so. first of all, for the reasons i just stated, given the foreign policy blunder has contributed to the aggression and assertiveness of our adversaries as a result of it. i think you can clearly connect those dots. secondly in dealing with the problem inside of afghanistan itself, we have no eyes and ears anymore. even if we do find something, we've got thousands of miles to go to be able to deal with that target. that's really quite challenging for us. it is not surprising that isis is rising again and making attacks inside of europe with the threat to do the same in the united states. we don't have the eyes and ears. >> dana: we have the third wreath being laid now to honor all 13. take a moment to watch here.

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wreath that president trump will lay today. bret i was looking through the names and ages of the 13 again. all 25 and under from all across the country, from california, texas, nebraska, massachusetts, ohio, tennessee, missouri. >> bret: you see congressman mike waltz there from florida wiping his eye and general kellogg at former president trump exits there and has been meeting with the families on this day of remembrance three years after those 13 were killed on abbey gate. >> dana: a final thought from general jack keane as we wrap up this ceremony at arlington national cemetery.

general. >> well, i think it's a reminder the united states military is out there every single day standing watch and making certain that the american people are protected. they volunteered to do this and do it willingly and with a sense of pride and dignity and certainly loyalty to their chain of command and loyalty to the united states of america. these ceremonies just remind us what that sacrifice is really all about and how fortunate and blessed we are to have americans who are willing to step forward and put at risk everything that they care about in life for something much larger than themselves, the security and protection of the american people and god bless them for it. >> bret: general jack keane. thank you. >> dana: good to have you with us, thank you, sir. >> you're welcome. thank you. >> dana: we want to bring in governor doug burgum watching along with us this morning. we have lots of things that we could talk to him about

election-wise. you were at the convention and had a chance to meet some of the family members of the 13 who had died and get your thoughts of president trump spending his day today getting started at arlington national cemetery recognizing those 13. >> bret and dana thank you for providing live coverage of this. president trump, who deeply respects our military and our veterans, this is so typical of him taking time to recognize these folks. i think i want to touch on what general keane said. when he talked about pinning the rose. we have to pin the rose on biden but harris brags about being the last person in the room when they made this decision. they made it for a date certain. that date certain was chosen for political reasons as, you know, governor of one of the greatest and most solemn governor you're commander-in-chief of the north dakota national guard and we were approaching the 20th memorial to recognize those who

died in the war on terror in north dakota since 9/11 forward, this disastrous withdrawal occurred and we found ourselves with gold star families asking wow, my son died in afghanistan during the war on terror. does that mean anything or not? i think that it's not just for these families but for all gold star families watching today, thank you for bringing attention to this issue because this is why we need president trump back as our commander-in-chief. somebody who understands how the world works and understands what we need to do to keep our nation prosperous and the world safe. >> bret: let's talk about the campaign here. speaker johnson has come out and said this about vice president harris, that it is a sugar high. democrats are on a sugar high. everybody acknowledged that and that gets real after labor day and i think that kamala harris is about to be put to the real test. where do you see this race and

how important is that first debate in the minds of the trump campaign? >> well, i think where we are in this race is again unprecedented. we have never had a candidate that is ten weeks away from an election that has never had to answer a question or never had to do an interview. this has never happened in the history of our democracy. i think we have to ask ourselves where is the role of the voters, not just -- can't blame mainstream media. the voters ought to be demanding that they understand her positions. biden ran from the basement. harris is maybe out in public but her policies and her thoughts about which direction the country might go is in a vault inside the basement and nobody understands that. voters deserve and should have the opportunity to understand what she is really thinking. otherwise we just have to assume that her day one is actually going to be the day not just the first -- her first day as the

next day of the biden-harris administration, but really like the beginning of the fourth term of the obama-biden-harris ruling coalition. >> dana: so interesting the way it's all working out. as people try to figure out the math how many would it be in a man was on the bill maher show over the weekend and what she should and shouldn't do with interviews. >> you see kamala. i'm glad we have a real fight now for president and she is doing well. but doesn't talk to the press. >> i think it is all about winning an election, all right? then the easiest path to winning the election, look, you can talk about maybe she should have had more guts about this or that and the other. >> dana: what of her spokes people from the campaign said she did 80 plus interviews before she became the nominee. maybe they've checked the box on that. we do believe she said she would do an interview before

august 31st. the clock is ticking on that, too. >> it's hard to believe we're talking about an interview, one interview, like that's a remarkable thing. anybody who has ever been on the campaign trail and runs for president knows you can't walk out of a pizza ranch in iowa without having four microphones from the im beds in your face answering questions every day. this is remarkable and unprecedented. i think we just have to take on face value her policies are the biden-harris policies and that means we have open borders, it means we'll have soviet-style price controls and we'll have continued explosions of wars like we've been covering this morning, the world is at war and we will have more of that versus going back to what president trump had, which is a border that is secure and strong economy and peace overseas. >> bret: to wrap it up on this debate. there was a truth social post from the former president that suggested he might be rethinking

that after the weekend watching abc over the weekend and what he thought was a biased presentation of views. there is also a debate about the debate and the rules. kamala harris campaign says we believe most candidates mike should be live throughout the full broadcast. trump's handlers prefer the muted microphone because they don't think their candidate can act presidential for 90 minutes on his own. this seems to be a pattern for the harris campaign about notes. this is debate about the debate which is former president agreed to with the biden campaign under the rules that were exactly the same as the cnn debate. so where is this? is the trump campaign ready to move forward with this no matter what? >> well, i think the debate about the debate will continue to go on and i think that the harris campaign is going to

continue to try to do what they are doing. they flip-flopped on everything else and hide behind quotes from anonymous aides and i think they will do anything they can to try to get out of a debate with president trump. if that means hey we'll keep asking for rules that are unreasonable and with complete bias and advantage to them, we'll see where it happens to go. they want to continue to stay in the vault inside the basement. one way to do that is avoid a debate. >> dana: thank you for joining us this morning and for going through the wreath laying ceremony in arlington. very moving to see and glad you were with us. the trump assassination task force is on the ground in butler, pennsylvania today as that investigation into the july rally continues. congressman jason crow is among the bipartisan group that will be there and join us straight ahead. psoriatic arthritis symptoms can be unpredictable. one day, your joints hurt. next, it's on your skin. i got cosentyx.

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>> dana: welcome back to our coverage. a bipartisan delegation of house members expected to have an update of the trump shooting investigation touring the butler fairground site in pennsylvania today. want to bring in congressman jason crowe, colorado democrat and ranking member on the house assassination task force. what do you hope to find out today that you haven't heard so far? >> well, we're still in the preliminary stages of our

investigation and i learned in the army that there is no substitute for actually being on the ground and seeing the physical outlay of what we're dealing with here. we want to look at the perimeter, the buildings where the shooter was and the podium was and see for ourselves where this whole incident occurred. that is going to help inform us in our interviews and document requests so, you know, it will be a bipartisan visit. democrats and republicans are here. also to show that we're condemning political violence together. we are in the midst of a very contested campaign cycle and it is important for america to see that we can have tough debates, we can have some fierce debates but in america we condemn political violence. there is no room for it and we'll come together to get importances here. >> bret: there is real frustration, i mean real frustration that it has taken this long to get answers and here is senator ron johnson on

this weekend talking about that frustration. >> part of the senate bipartisan investigation led by the chairman of the committee and subcommittee. all i can tell you is the secret service, f.b.i. basically are dragging their feet stonewalling us. we have gotten some transcribed interviews. the documents we request are heavily redacted. if you want to design an investigation to drive conspiracy theories this is exactly how do you that investigation. >> bret: do you believe the f.b.i. is dragging their feet and if so, why? >> no, we've seen no indication of that, bret. trust me, if i feel like there is feet dragging going on here, if i feel like there is anyone stonewalling, i will be the first to call that out because i want and demand answers. every single american wants answers to this and we want to know that our candidates are secure. doesn't matter whether you are a republican or democrat. we need to have the confidence

that our candidates are secure and right now america does not have that confidence. but we have now received two briefings from government agencies. they started to produce documents to us. they have been cooperating by agreeing to produce folks for our transcribed interviews. we've received full cooperation on the ground in advance of our visit here today. i have seen no indication that there is any type of stonewalling or foot dragging. if i do, i will call that out and chairman kelly and i are working hand and glove to make sure this is happening the right way. >> dana: on friday there were a bunch of suspensions of secret service agents. do you think it was the right call? >> well, what we don't know is exactly the nature of those suspensions. this is an internal personnel matter so this is always the case. i do a lot of oversight. i'm the ranking member of the oversight and accountability subcommittee for foreign affairs and there is always a difference

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created this task force is that we have to have the report done by december 13th. what we're looking at doing whether we do interim reports and findings to get more urgent information out during the campaign cycle as well. in discussions what that would look like. >> dana: we appreciate you coming on the show and keeping us posted. important issue. thank you. >> bret: ceo of telegram arrested overseas igniting another firestorm over free speech online. plus a planned eight-day test flight stretching into the better part of a year. the crew of the boeing starliner finally knows when they are returning home next. n homeowner. if you need cash, the last thing you want to do is spend cash just to see if you qualify for a home loan. yet, some lenders charge you hundreds of dollars in upfront fees just to apply. they keep your money even if they turn you down. call newday. unlike other lenders, at newday there's no upfront appraisal fee,

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control team. >> dana: so that test flight is going to last a little bit longer. nasa announced it is bringing the boeing starliner back from the iss without its crew. they will be hitching a ride home in february instead and that will be on the spacex dragon capsule. we have more from miami to explain and set us all up for what happened and what is going to happen. hi, dana marie. >> hi, good morning. the space mission went from eight days to eight months, dana. after weeks of debate nasa said for safety knee decided it is too risky to bring the astronauts home in the starliner after concerns of multiple helium leaks and problems with its thrusters. the astronauts have been stuck at the international space station since the beginning of june. now will come back in a spacex capsule in february. nasa awarded boeing with a $4.2 billion contract and musk

spacex company with 2.6 billion contract to help develop the agency's human space flight systems. spacex has completed multiple crew flights. as for boeing, this space mission was the troubled star lineser first one under nasa's program. >> when they launch, they know there are circumstances where they can be on board for up to a year. so mentally, you know, you know you could be in that situation. now once you are in the arena, obviously it's a little different. it is challenging. it is disappointing that they are not coming home on starliner. that's okay. it is a test flight. that's what we do. they knew the risks. >> one boeing employee tells the "new york post" quote, we hate spacex and feel humiliated the company is now bailing us out. as for butch and sunny, nasa says they support this decision fully. food and water up there is not a concern as nasa says they resupply missions frequently.

boeing says that starliner will be coming back down to earth unmanned this september. dana. >> dana: all right. dana marie, thank you so much. joining us now is a former nasa executive and former white house assistant director for space policy. a terrific guest for us to have today. i was thinking about all those people who got stranded when they had the software update at the airports and everybody was stranded for a few days and how frustrating that would be. of course, i guess you kind of know the risks. in this case it is different. they're astronauts, but still, this is quite an ordeal that they are going through. your thoughts this morning. >> it is an ordeal. the great thing about astronauts is that unlike mere mortals, they love space and some of them have done tenures that are a year long. being there for eight months is a thrill for them.

they have supplies, we have supply missions that will give them all the food and resources they need. to have tasks to do and i think the best news here is that we have american alternative to bring them home. i think that if you step book and look at the geopolitical picture, we're happy to have an american alternative. >> bret: this is bill nelson on the dangers of space travel. >> space flight is risky, even at its safest, and even at its most routine. and a test flight by nature is neither safe nor routine. >> bret: you say that it is a positive thing that u.s. alternatives. is it embarrassing that boeing can't do it themselves? >> it's their first crew test

flight in space. it is difficult and complex. we all make mistakes the first time. and it is how we recover from those mistakes that matter. so they have a lot of work to do to fix the problem and launch additional missions that are uncrewed first and then crewed. if you look at the spacex history and nasa's history there are mistakes along the way. the resilience and recovery that matters here. >> dana: it is a good thing they can help each other out. the rivally will continue with some heat. thank you, great to have you on the show. appreciate it. >> bret: thank you. >> when will you sit down for your first interview being the nominee? >> i want us to get an