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>> kayleigh: well, the debate between vice president kamala harris and former president trump is becoming the new and changing battleground, changing by the hour, it seems. trump accusing the harris campaign of changing the rules, all to avoid going head-to-head on the debate stage. the harris team meanwhile is clapping back, saying they didn't agree to any rules at all. this is "outnumbered." i'm kayleigh mcenany here with my cohost, emily compagno. also joining us, host of "american dream home" on fox business, cheryl casone. president of americans. enterprises, tammy bruce, and chairman of o'leary ventures, ready to go here, kevin o'leary. the two campaigns are clashing over whether or not the microphones will be muted. trump also accusing the network, abc, of political bias after this interview between republican senator tom cotton and abc reporter jonathan karl. >> what do you mean, taking away

health insurance? >> she said when she ran for president that she wants to eliminate private health insurance on the job. >> that is not her position. >> how do you know this about her position? she has not said that. maybe anonymous aides on a friday not have said that. she's been part of the failures of the biden-harris administration for four years. when she campaign as president in her own right she promised things like decriminalizing illegal immigration, taking away health insurance. >> that's a position she has said she has changed. yes, she has. >> she has not. jon, she has not said that. >> kayleigh: is jonathan karl a campaign surrogate? if you had watch that you would have thought that was a debate between a republican and democrat. but it was a host of a major sunday show interviewing a republican, vouching for kamala harris, and trump was asked about the dispute you just watched earlier today.

>> when i watch this interview of tom cotton -- fortunately he's a total pro and he knows what he's doing. when i watched the roundtable after that, i said, the hostility is crazy. so we are thinking about it. they also want to change the rules. the deal is we keep the same rules. now all of a sudden they want to change the rules because she can't answer questions. why doesn't she do a couple of question-and-answer? something like i'm doing right now? she can't talk. we can't have another dummy as a president. we can't have a dummy, and the people from vietnam agree with that. [crowd responding] >> would you want the microphone muted in the debate whenever you're not speaking? >> we agreed to the same rules. it doesn't matter to me. i'd wanted probably un, but the agreement was it's the same as last time. it worked out fine, but ask biden how it worked out. it was fine.

i think it should be the same. we agreed to the same rules. the same rules, the same specifications. i think that is probably what it should be. but they are trying to change it. the truth is they are trying to get out of it, because she doesn't want to debate. she's not a good debater, she's not a smart person. she doesn't want to debate. >> kayleigh: there's been a lot of rapid back-and-forth. it began this morning, kevin, in the politico playbook. "we have told abc and possible network seeking to host in october debate that we believe both candidates' mics should be live." jason miller said, "we excepted the same terms as a cnn debate." a trump made the comment he thinks it should be the same, but nevertheless said he is open to -- you want the same rules out of fairness but he could go either way. from the kamala harris campaign, "trump said on muting the mics doesn't matter. i suspected something his staff wanted to know him personally.

but this is resolved and everything is set for september 10th." but is it? that's not what i heard. >> kevin: i think we are in a very interesting crossroads, because i can't imagine the president of the united states -- let's be bipartisan for a moment and agree on one thing. there's no scenario where the president of the united states can't head up a press conference. under any scenario, every president has been able to address the press, in the good times and the bad times. she has to start talking to the press, period. there is no optionality, no scenario where anybody would be comfortable, particularly in the swing states of swing voters. thinking to myself, what do we have here? why isn't she talking for the press? any declinations for these policies because i have to invest in these policies. have questions and i don't get any answers. i'm not being unreasonable. come out, come out, wherever you are, and talk to the press.

>> kayleigh: if i'm president trump and i'm watching this, i'm looking at someone trying to script their way to the presidency. then i turn on abc, who i am expecting to be fair to me, and i see jon karl acting as a surrogate. though he was so hostile to tom cotton, and i'm supposed to walk in and think you're going to be fair to me? really? when my missing? >> emily: remember when don them and interviewed a bunch of people in new jersey and cleveland, and when americans said this is how they feel? the whole point is this media has operated as a surrogacy for kamala harris this entire time, or for the biden-harris of administration, and now that apparently goes to policies. here's what the policy is, and here's how to feel based on numbers i've made up rather than how you actually feel. the point that i see, too, is what donald trump said. i will debate you anytime, anywhere. i want my future commander in chief to have the confidence of someone that is ready to take on

every other global leader. so i would hope the current vice president will come out and say, what questions do you have for me? i saw, on the night that evan gershkovich and everyone was released from russia, she did to questions. i watched it live, because i was sobbing because they were bringing our americans home. it's not like she is immune or impossible to do it, that something is clearly happening where she knows, when her feet is to the fire, it wouldn't work out. a quick final point to the thing that donald trump was saying, that obviously she doesn't want to debate. when floyd mayweather wanted to fight john gotti in the exhibition this weekend, which we watched, he didn't say it had to be xyz. he said, i want to fight you anytime, anywhere. you make the rules, him either. mexico city? great, i'll be there at 7:00. i can't have that confidence with the potential commander in chief? let me know where to debate you. i need to earn americans' votes. >> kayleigh: donald trump had a litany of questions on abc

that he laid out on truth social. donna brazile was accused of providing a question to the hillary campaign while on cnn. not currently there, now on abc. but these are the things he is thinking through. >> tammy: we have seen this before with media. no one should be surprised. with debates we have seen moderators act as surrogates for the democratic candidate, or going after mitt romney or george bush. i think this is what americans now are privy to. they understand that this isn't the role of the media. you are not to be an advocate for one side. if legacy media really wanted kamala harris there or even a surrogate is to say, we are having tom cotton on, we are not going to be her surrogate, you have to have someone here, but if you want tom cotton on tv without any push back, okay, but that is our situation. they would have to move on that. they would have to put a surrogate there. but at least they could make

that. yes, we have invited kamala harris and we have not heard back, or she refused, that's all you need to do. and at least you are doing your job in the meantime. but trump also wants to make sure that he has some fairness in this environment. he knows it'll never really be fair, but he wants the american people to know. >> kayleigh: i think outside observers -- we will see how they see it, the people sought to two debate set, two candidates. he replaced the candidate, now it's kamala and trump, but now you want to change the rules. >> cheryl: remember, we are talking about two weeks from tomorrow that this debate is set to happen. i'm going to tell you, i'm not sure they really care at this point. that campaign has done so many flip-flops that she has announced, and i think what they are doing is making, in their mind, smart political calculations. because now that she's the candidate, the rules don't apply to her and the rules are out the door. i think they are showing that now in particular with the argument this morning about the debate rules. they want his mic to be open. it's obvious, they want that

site, because she wants to fight. she's ready to fight, he is ready to fight. i say, whatever the rules are, sign, they get the policy out there. enough with all the semantics and the kumbaya with the democrats. time to hear about regulation, tax policy, health care, foreign policy. enough is enough. we need actual specifics. she's going to have to do that without the prompter. >> kayleigh: well, that's the task. went to bed thinking there was a september 10th debate, woke up thinking, maybe not so fast. so we will see. the bipartisan has task force on the trump assassination attempt is set to visit the site of the shooting just hours from now. live report, next. my restaurants, my tattoo shop... and i also have a non-profit. but no matter what business i'm in... my network and my tech need to keep up. thank you, verizon business. (kevin) now our businesses get fast and reliable internet from the same network that powers our phones. (woman) all with the security features we need.

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>> emily: the house investigation into the trump assassination attempt is entering a new phase today. members of the bipartisan task force are set to tour the site of the shooting in just a few hours. lawmakers will be meeting with law enforcement and local officials in butler, pennsylvania, and we will hear them speak during a news conference following that tour. there is that comes just days after five secret service agents were reassigned amid the investigation into the attempt on trump's life. first, let's go live tcb cotton in butler, pennsylvania, with the latest. >> hi, emily. task force members say, in addition to accountability, they want to really understand what went wrong to prevent an agency failure like this from ever happening again. >> every single american wants answers to this, and we want to know that our candidates are secure. it doesn't matter whether you are a republican or democrat. we need to have the confidence that our candidates are secure, and right now america does not

have that confidence. >> today congressman crow and task force chairman mike kelly will lead this bipartisan group of lawmakers on the tour. the task force could use its subpoena power to get answers, and at the end of the investigation lawmakers will make recommendations for agency reform or new laws. the task force was briefed by the fbi last week, and one congressman tells fox the agency says it is making progress accessing encrypted accounts used by gunmen thomas crooks. former president donald trump told elon musk he plans to return to butler sometime in october. local officials are telling us here on the ground that preparations have already begun. >> that level of collaboration and communication improvements, we have done some of those already. radio communications. but those are all things that have to be worked out so we are back to understanding what everyone's role really is. >> at least five agents who are

involved in the rally security planning are now on administrative leave, but a source tells fox more agents may be caught up in the agency's internal investigation. several republican lawmakers in d.c. who are not selected a part of the task force are holding a forum on the assassination attempt and that forum is about to get underway. emily? >> emily: thank you, cb. kevin, following this he might have recommendations, but this will be the second bout of recommendations from congress, changing policies, protocols, and training. so it's going to be different now? >> kevin: i think a lot of people are concerned that all these conspiracy theories floating on the internet, could be quieted by a firm report. most people know what happen here. it was a breakdown between local police and the secret service. all these videos emerging now where you see the gunmen flopping around on the roof, you would have thought that would have caught the attention of some sniper. i am interested in why that

didn't happen. what does being put on administration leave me in? that lacked, semiwax, sort of lacked going to be whacked? if you're going to whack somebody, just whack somebody. it makes it hang out longer. people want to know that's going get solved. in history we have a shot or assassinated seven presidents in the united states. we haven't had that many. that's a lot of people getting killed. we have to fix this problem, no question. >> emily: we do. cheryl, i hope we are not operated within the mafia definition of getting whack. the reality is cory did lose his life. so this was a successful assassination of a wonderful man who is no longer with us. i have not yet seen bipartisan unity as i did the day following the attempt. will the unity stand, and will the pressure remains of americans get answered? >> cheryl: i think on the political side it will.

this is bipartisan, the anger and fear about this happening again. on the agency side, we have multiple investigations going track by track, side-by-side, and we don't have clear answers. i can't believe cb cotton just said that, that we have not cracked his accounts. that is ridiculous. call a russian hacker at this point, or a chinese hacker, to get in and help you figure out what this kid was doing online. that is insane to me. the other issue, there is so much seating going on. i hate to say it but it looks like that field office is going to take the brunt of the blame. and that's unfortunate to me. but there is so much cya going on with the agency. >> emily: tammy, less important than why is tiled. the how will eliminate how to prevent it moving forward. >> tammy: right. even with the reports we have seen, we can draw some conclusions. but that's not our job. we don't want people to draw conclusions. this is why he had the system, two in fact, yes, so that void.

it starts filling in with other things to connect the dots. that's where conspiracies come through, but the american people don't need to be pushed in that direction. we have seen an fbi that colluded to smear donald trump, and the fbi director directly participating in that situation. we have seen things over the last 8-10 years that have shocked us, that we would never have imagined was really occurring. so we are in a position where we are wondering, and we shouldn't have to be, but we are, what really happened making this report and clarity even more important. >> kayleigh: there are lingering and confounding questions here. the shooter is able to fly a drone, but the secret service had no drones? i mean, why? the building was identified as a vulnerability, but yet no one was put on that roof? why? the shooter was identified as suspicious at 5:10 p.m., an hour and one minute before the shooting took place. why wasn't he followed? i listen the presidents detail

informed? moreover, the communications. secret service informed 2-5 times about a suspicious person. why did that information not make it to the presidential detail? it's crazy to the average american. i believe this bipartisan commission is a great thing. but it would have been nice if we would have heard a mention of this from kamala harris during her speech. i'm sure she denounces this as much as anyone, but it would've been a nice touch of unity just to hear that moment at the dnc. >> emily: coming up, guys, an op-ed. move over, ryan gosling! a new op-ed says that second gentleman doug emhoff is -- wait for it , a modern-day sex symbol. their words, not mine, guys. stay with us. ♪ ♪ for a limited time, subway just dropped the price of every footlong in the app to $6.99. wait, subway did what?! $6.99 footlongs?

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♪ ♪ >> kayleigh: it appears the media is trying to cover for democrats' issues with masculinity. first, they cast minnesota governor tim walz as a "manly man." now there's this, a "washington post" op-ed -- i cannot believe this -- calling second gentleman doug emhoff a "modern-day sex symbol." it reads in part, "he secure enough with his masculinity to prioritize his wife's ambitions over his own. what a hunk." that's a "washington post." can you believe that? that headline is part of a growing media narratives that centers around manhood in the 2024 election, claiming that two versions of masculinity on the ballot. listen to how cnn anchor dana bash sums it up. >> they are doing so trying to put forward male figures,

tim walz being one of them, doug emhoff last night, who can speak to men out there who might not be the sort of testosterone-laden, done them at gun-toting kind of guy who wants to listen to hulk hogan and thef players that came out of the rnc, or might want to listen to that but also, in addition, understand that it is okay in 2024 to be a man comfortable in his own skin who support the woman. >> kayleigh: ah, the testosterone-laden men. got to be on the lookout for them. that's what i came to you first have you jumping out of your seat. they say progressive sex symbol. moreover, move over, ryan gosling. the female fantasy invited by the man he might become our

first gentleman. >> tammy: stereotypes. also, the underestimation. who did they think they are appealing to? do they think it is their own base still struggling with what a man is, or are they assuming conservatives need to hear this somehow? it is an outstanding dynamic. i would say we must regret -- this is an effort to make it deeply personal, that it is gender issues. let me tell you something that matters to both men and women regardless of how you present yourself. world war iii, joining it for the military. if your son or daughter or husband or wife is going to come home in the next year because of a limited nuclear exchange. whether or not you do have gas in your car to get to work affects men and women. and when it comes to masculinity, i'm sure their wives think they are the sexiest guy in the world. but for emhoff and his marriage previously, the nature of cheating on one's wife, that is not a masculine trait.

that is a cheater's trait. donald trump obviously is a grandpa, and he doesn't like war. he deals with mass violence, targeting people. i think that's a big difference that the american people care about. >> kayleigh: i think there is something interesting going on beyond the surface of all this. i'm curious if you've seen is in your day-to-day life and in your business. "the new york times" hit on it. on one side are young women who are very liberal and on the other side of young men, some of whom feel that rapidly changing gender roles have left them behind socially and economically, and see former president trump as a champion of traditional men. >> kevin: i have a completely different take on all of this narrative which has been around a couple years now. to me, it is verbal poopoo, and here is why. i look at the world i live in, 55 companies now, probably 10,000 employees in them. i don't care what gender they are, what color they are, who they associate with sexually.

i couldn't care less. can they execute their mandate? i don't care where you come from or what your religion is. can you execute the mandate you've got? you will rise up in my organization. i've got every kind of person, from every nationality. i don't care. can you execute? man woman, gender, yada yada, willis, willis, lift. i sit them down and say, here's a task. you can eat get it done? if you can get it done you'll make money and if you can't i'm going to fire you. >> kayleigh: there's an interesting piece in the wall street journal. they mentioned women are supporting kamala, trump has the mail though. and where is the outreach from either camp into the other gr group? for trump, i would love to see him embrace the rubio agenda of vulnerable women. but from kamala there is not outreach to men at the dnc. zero whatsoever despite being behind in the polls. speak of this is why dei

is less and less part of corporations. it doesn't work, and it is pandering and it doesn't make sense. at the end of the day, talk to us about what matters to us. taxes, home prices, gasoline, groceries. that's what's going to connect. but the fact that you are targeting a group based on gender doesn't make sense, and i think it is pandering and frankly stupid. >> kayleigh: emily, i want to pull up that poll i mentioned. trump leading among men 55-40. >> emily: i will say i think the objectification is horrifying. if this was the potential incoming female spouse in "the wall street journal" or "washington post" or "new york times" ran things like that, do you think people would accept that? what makes people think it's okay now that it's a man? i'm turned off by them shoving that down our throats pray secondly, ryan gosling, please don't go anywhere for the love of god. not at all, not for doug emhoff. thirdly, here's what i find so telling. after the dnc concluded,

"the new york times," the bastion of light and illumination, ran a political fashion piece that compared to men and talk about their uniforms. and they called j.d. vance's beard and emblem of e-men frontiersman ship that reflected his more traditional approach to gender roles. now of course they cut him down and said more things about why that's terrible, and then they went on to talk about walz and to say how his regular guy cred, his penchant for plaid shirts and other costumes of regular guyhood, how attractive that was. was. and you see the same brands and types of clothes on people like don jr. and everyone. the whole point is everyone wears it and it doesn't matter. the media will always make it sound like it is toxic if it is on the back of someone that votes republican, and it is the next best thing if it is on the back of someone that votes with a d, that they can keep doug emhoff and the subject of vacation. >> kayleigh: does a stunning examples. the american people noticed at

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the taxpayer-funded program to all prospective home buyers regardless of immigration status. the bill next goes to the full state senate, and this isn't just happening in california, by the way. a taxpayer-funded group in oregon is offering up to $30,000 for first-time home buyers. the catch, it's not even open to united states citizens, only migrants. kevin, is this good for business? >> kevin: no. in fact, the average salary in america is $68,000. down payment, $20,000 to $30,000. if i were a taxpaying american citizen listening to us right now, i would be really pissed off. this is more gavin newsom stuff. i have been an open critic of his policies in terms of what it has done to california. it is turning it into an economic dumpster fire. this policy makes no sense. i call it un-american.

you are an american paying taxes, and you don't get the same free money? who would even propose that? that is such a stupid idea, i can't believe it. if that passes, that is just more insanity in california. >> tammy: do you think he's going to sign it, kevin? i'm questioning whether they will. they've got a budget deficit right now in california. i'm wondering if the budget hawks are going to say, wait a minute, gavin, back up. >> kevin: i think the reason he was not considered for the presidency in this last round is he owns a dumpster fire in california. if you propose for him to run this country the way here in california, not all of us want to live in a dumpster fire. so he's got to fix california and that's not how you start. if you're a taxpayer, an american citizen, and you don't get access to the same deal, you should be really pissed. >> tammy: 's program ran out of money when they first introduced it into weeks, to be

clear. the housing crisis in california is off the charts. they will pass it, tear point, but i'm not sure gavin is going to sign it. >> kayleigh: i can't imagine being gen z, being a young person. you feel economically depressed and you look at the media and housing, $412,000, up nearly 30% in the second quarter from 2021. and then you think, maybe i can for the sprayed weight, the interest rate is about 7% on mortgages. i looked this morning. then you found out your taxpayer dollars to go to illegal immigrants getting the down payment you have saved for? i can't imagine being a young person's trying to find a starter home and hearing this. i just can't. >> kayleigh: don't ask me to so many californians fled to oregon there's a large agricultural population and the coast is so staunchly blue, and the majority is red. that's why so much of oregon is trying to cced to be joined by idaho, and policies to your

point -- the travesty is not necessarily an open hand to illegal immigrants. the travesty is that you are stamping down american taxpayers. you are casting them aside and you are propping up illegal immigrants. >> cheryl: this is my kamala harris and other democrats don't want to talk about things. they don't have to raise their hand and say, do you approve of this? as a former leftist, it is california, new york, and england, london, that you can look to to determine where the left is going worldwide. london is doing the same thing. they have just announced free housing, homes for illegal immigrants. obviously we have been doing it with hotels. california and oregon are doing it here. but as a native californian, i've never owned a home, lost everything in 2007 and 2008. we had the housing crisis then because of the subprime issue. the ability for people on welfare to use that to get a house, the fact that people would need this to get a house

maybe means they can't quite afford it yet and that would lead to something else. but as an individual who has never had one and maybe we'll never get one, considering the environment, i think about our veterans living on the street. when we think, we are not bereft for other people who might want this program, and it certainly should at least be u.s. citizens first. >> emily: and now california is trying to tax your assets that aren't even in the state. there's not enough time in the show to talk about the terrible policies coming out of there. but guess what's next? kevin in the hot seat. we are going to ask thoughts on kamala harris' tax plan, gen z men wanting to make more than their partners, and australia's new right to disconnect law. don't go anywhere, guys. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪

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>> donald trump with a speech the national guard association coming up in a little more than an hour. trump highlighting his support for the military after democrats criticized him at the dnc. we will have the event for you as it happens. the bipartisan task force into the assassination attempt against trump holding a field hearing at the scene of the crime. we've got the latest for you on that. today is the third anniversary of the suicide bombing that killed 13 american service members. we will talk to a gold star mom.

and more accusations of governor tim walz embellishing his past. our political panel weighs in. i'm john roberts. come join sandra and me, top of the hour, for "america reports." ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> emily: it is time for "let's ask kevin." kevin, vice president kamala harris wants to raise the corporate tax rate to help pay for campaign promises. what do you say about that? >> kevin: so, of all the policies that have been proposed by her in the last three weeks, this one is the greatest concern to institutional investors and sovereign wealth managers. if you recall, last time we did this we lost about five large corporations per year to ireland. 28%, over 30 in states where there's corporate taxes at the state level. we are no longer competitive in the g20. it is a serious, serious policy,

and i think that is why i really wish so much that she would come out and talk to the press on this one specifically. i really need to understand what she's thinking here, because the evidence is already there. it is a bad idea, a very bad idea. we would go from middle of the pack in the g22 the bottom quartile on tax competitiveness. really bad idea. >> kayleigh: and on price controls it's probably not a good thing when democrats are anonymously telling reporters that this will never pass. your own party. >> kevin: i think it's fair to say that's a mistake. somebody whispered it in her ear or she read it on a teleprompter. i'm sure she regrets it. soviet-style price controls don't work in america. telling somebody what you can grow and apple for and sell it, and then the person is going to buy next the apple, it's controlled by the government apple agency? what are they even talking about? she wants to unwind that one for sure. >> cheryl: but how do you feel about the fact that she just

like biden kept saying greek, greedy corporations, greedy businesses? they are punishing people for wanting to achieve in this country and do well. >> kevin: every election cycle is bashing greedy corporations. however, the pragmatic american voter knows that 83% of jobs in america are from the private sector, including their job. so who are we bashing? their employers? not so smart. it never really works. it has been tried so many times. evil, evil corporations. don't i work at one of those places? it doesn't work. >> tammy: this is also what is concerning. maybe they whispered in her ear, but that was the price control event, a big event. it was like a signature event, that this is what she stood for. which means somebody powerful set that up. wouldn't the same people be informing her if she is in the white house with ideas that we know fail? do you imagine that being possible? >> kevin: i love where you

going where with this, let me draw an analogy for us. when you invest, you can buy the s&p 500 at an index and pay 11 basis points for it, or hire a money manager who picks stocks, 85% of the time charging a lot more, and they can't even beat the s&p. so let's talk about -- you are the masterminds that chose harris as the anointed leader? are they stock pickers? is that obama? >> kayleigh: nancy pelosi. >> kevin: is it pelosi? they are stock pickers, and we know stock pickers lose basically 85% of the time. there's a bit of the risk here that she's going to be a loser just like hillary clinton was. >> emily: well, starting today, guys, australian employees have the right to ignore their bosses outside working hours. a new law means that employees cannot be punished for refusing to read or respond to contact from their employers outside of

work hours. kevin? >> kevin: that's nuts. that's completely nuts. what happens if you have an event in the office and it's closed? or you have an emergency somewhere, and have to get a hold of them at 2:00 in the morning because it affects the job they're working on, and their mandate within the organization -- this kind of stuff just makes me crazy. it is so dumb! who dreams this crap up, is my question. why would anyone propose such a stupid idea? i think you know where i stand on it. >> kayleigh: have to know, really quick. do you ever get from your employees "i'm in silent mode" that a lot of young people put on their phones? >> kevin: the next moment is i just fire them. [laughter] >> tammy: you are on a roll today firing people. >> kevin: you can't be on silent mode network! >> tammy: doesn't disallow the go-getter to say, if you need something, i'm here? at any time. isn't that the benefit? you're not going to find the

person on silent mode if it's against the law, but does not give the go-getter and edge? >> kevin: you know, in the end, it doesn't matter. nothing matters except for your ability to have executional excellence and perform and do your job. the people that work for me make a lot of money when they are able to do that. they rise up and they make a lot of money, because they know what they're doing. have executional skills. and i don't care where they came from, what color they are, what gender. i couldn't give a damn. >> tammy: put in a competitive jobs environment, you do have to offer some kind of work-life balance and a few perks. >> kevin: you know what they call it? they call it money. [laughter] >> emily: speaking of money, according to a study, gen z men are less comfortable than millennials with their partner making more money than they do. kevin? >> kevin: again, between men and women, or whoever your partner is, i think that doesn't matter in terms of an emotional

relationship. what i tell everybody to do in a relationship is have your own account, your own credit card. never married your finances together. so many marriages dissolves not because of infidelity, but because of financial stress. you have to have your own identity. after you get divorced, if you have been merged in with your significant other, you are a nobody in our system. you have to have your own credit track record. don't let emotions get in the way of that. if you are listening to me here, i don't care how in love you are. you keep your account to yourself. >> emily: it seems like -- i mean, we will see what happens in november, that hopefully there will be a lot less financial stress depending how it goes. hopefully it'll be more positive. >> kayleigh: i would love to hear from tim walz and the democrats on this, because they are so into masculinity. >> kevin: he doesn't have an investment portfolio. i just found that out. >> kayleigh: between the two of them, i don't think -- >> kevin: who's going to take care of him and his family when

he retires? >> emily: but a lot of money from the private sector. >> tammy: multiple pensions, though. >> kevin: i don't want to get into a partisan debate, that i pulled his numbers and he's in the top ten worst states for creating jobs and for losing capital. there is a massive transition of retirees out of his state because he whacked them with a super surcharge tax over 10%. i knew nothing about this guy. >> emily: i'm just laughing because you always say "whack." stay with us. more "outnumbered" in just a moment. ♪ ♪ time to press rewind with... neutrogena rapid wrinkle repair. it has derm-proven retinol... ...expertly formulated... ...to target skin cell turnover... ...and fights not one—but 5 signs of aging. with visible results... ...in just one week. neutrogena psoriatic arthritis symptoms can be unpredictable.

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>> today marks three years since 13 u.s. service members tragically lost their lives and a terror attack during the withdrawal from afghanistan. we honor and remember all of

those fallen heroes and we thank them for their sacrifice. they will never be forgotten. earlier today former president trump visited the arlington national cemetery to pay his respects in a wreath laying ceremony. some of the families of the fallen were with him. emily, we covered this live together that day three years ago. riley mccollum is a name we all learned whose daughter was born just weeks after he lost his life. levi raleigh rose mccullum will turn three years old and has never met her father but he died a hero. >> our prayers have not stopped going out to the families of those fallen and we remember and honor them every day, not just today although today is a horrific reminder of what failures in leadership and failures and decision-making and abandonment of our allies looks like and i hope among the questions people are asking the future president kamala harris,d the last person in the room andp over those decisions and

ignore the recommendations by generals and i want to acknowledge as well the people who stood. people ask they are rado of save our allies, tim kennedy and all of those who went in the gap after the failure of our leadership and government to save our allies and save americans. >> it was that day that a lot of people lost faith in the american dominic bided administration. we know the vice president to your point was the last person in the room and that was her words. at 2:00 p.m. eastern time today the house task force looking into the assassination attempt of former president trump will visit the butler p.a. fairgrounds where trump nearly was killed last month. those bipartisan lawmakers will be holding a press conference afterward. 418 to zero was a vote to establish that bipartisan commission. a lot of questions. we hope that they find answers. thank you to every impure dvr that show and we will see you tomorrow but for now, america reports. >> we have had multiple hearings