>> ainsley: good morning, it's 7:00 a.m. on the east coast. it's wednesday, august 28th. this is "fox & friends." kamala harris finally agrees to her first formal interview since taking over as democratic nominee, but she won't be alone. she is doing it with her running mate. does she need backup for moments like these? >> you need to get to go and need to be able to get where you need to go. >> the significance of the passage of time. so, when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time. >> ainsley: john roberts and sarah huckabee sanders gave us their take. >> steve: we know what your take is, viewers. meanwhile, inflation killing the american dream, and the american dream of retirement. we're going to give you the outrageous amount it is now costing your family to live comfortably as more americans are forced to work later in life and not retire. >> brian: plus, talk about a comeback, oak students wave the

stars and stripes after their class mate was banned from flying the truck will wilt and pete go off the grid. where do they go when get they off sight. you know, what are we going to do? you have to use electricity at some point. >> lawrence: that's true. >> brian: head lamps? where are they? >> lawrence: brian can i start the show. >> ainsley: zero emissions. >> lawrence: the audience is waiting. >> brian: want to go to music. >> lawrence: "fox & friends" starts right now and remember mornings are better with friends. [laughter] so once president biden wraps up his two week vacation. he will join his vice president in pittsburgh for an event on labor day. it will be their first joint event since she accepted the democratic nomination. >> ainsley: meanwhile the harris and trump campaigns are getting back on the campaign trail with stops in key swing states. peter doocy live at the white house. peter? >> and the hairs campaign thinks that with president biden off

the ticket, they have georgia back in place. so, they have not designed this bus tour that starts today with the vice president and governor walz just to try to run up the score in atlanta where democrats typically do very well. >> they are going to be in more rural parts of the say. politico says they are trying to mirror the playbook that helped raphael warnock and jon ossoff win in georgia in 2021. the republican ticket traditional battleground states. president trump is going to be in michigan and wisconsin tomorrow. j.d. vance in pennsylvania and wisconsin and he has a particular focus on the way kamala harris is moving to the middle on everything from healthcare tet economy, to the border. >> i read a story this morning that her advisers are considering just copying all of donald trump's policies. [laughter] they are more popular. in fact, i have heard that for her debate in just a couple weeks, she is going to put on a

navy suit, a long red tie and adopt the slogan "make america great again." >> peter: we learned last night that the harris campaign does plan to deploy president biden on monday for the traditional start of the post labor day sprint to the election. is he going to be there alongside the vice president and pittsburgh is a place we have been to with president biden a lot. he has a lot of union bosses there that the harris campaign thinks oh, president biden a lot of favors. he has been invisible for weeks. even though he is the current president. back to you. >> steve: peter, it sounds like the campaign, the kamala harris campaign usage of joe biden, the current president, is they want to use him in states like pennsylvania where he can help them with older white voters. >> peter: so it seems like they are going to use president biden the way that he was being used before, which is just to go to

pittsburgh and probably philadelphia the most. >> peter: i think that's probably right. all right, peter, thank you very much. meanwhile the campaign apparently also wants to wheel out tim walz to various union states and localities because he is very prounion and apparently the labor leaders love to have him. >> ainsley: we knew kamala's campaign kept saying she is going to do an interview by the end of this month. which would be this weekend. she did -- she is granting an interview to dana bash. and she is going to have that interview tomorrow. they are going to tape it during the day and then air it tomorrow night. >> brian: so that will be -- it will be interesting. their first sitdown why they have to do it together is interesting. more of a cushion and more questions. why do you need him there. and if you want to wonder if there is a template, j.d. vance, i think, has made two appearances with president trump. they have been separated. j.d. vance hasn't had a day off, i don't think. the president has two days where he did an interview with dr. phil yesterday and goes back on the trail tomorrow and then he does another rally on friday.

j.d. vance has been nonstop since. they don't need each other. did you watch j.d. vance on the sunday show on sunday. >> lawrence: again? >> brian: kristen welker relentless. he is 39 years old. 40 years old now. just met president trump. is he comfortable talking about president trump's policies. why is tim walz not comfortable talking about the last three and a half years. >> ainsley: might be kamala is not comfortable. >> brian: she makes him be more comfortable. she. >> ainsley: she does the word salad and he jumps in. >> lawrence: makes her look weak. even joe biden didn't have kamala harris saving him and he was full of word salads and gaffes. look, i just think this is going to be a critical interview because dana bash is going to have to puck back on blatant flip-flops and lies coming out of the harris campaign. family member came to me and said lawrence, when you interview the former president

again you ask him why he wants to cancel medicare and medicaid? i go where are you getting it from? it's the harris campaign putting that stuff out on social media. it's a lie. it's been debunked multiple times. but it keeps going out there. >> ainsley: in fact, he doesn't want to tax your social security. >> brian: ever sit around the table with your extended family sometimes being that they do other things for a living and hear. so things that they say. i spend the whole time going i never heard that i never heard that. ask them where you heard it from. i saw it on facebook. where were you? we grew up in a time what you read in the paper you believed. this i read this online. i read this online. no, i have never heard that i spend the whole time going yeah, i don't know where that came from. >> lawrence: every family is going through that same exact scenario. >> brian: misinformation. ai is here now. looks like they are actually saying it. so, you know, when you are around the table. the number one issue, according to the polls, is the economy and inflation, right? but people at home don't talk

about inflation and the economy. they talk about things are not affordable. and that is one of the things. >> brian: my family talks macroeconomics. >> steve: i'm sure they do. and micro. that's one of the reasons, presumably by the kamala harris campaign has said she will make things more affordable. that's in her ad that we ran yesterday. so, tonight, dana bash or rather tomorrow when she talks to kamala harris, danna barb needs to say okay, you're going to do it. how are you going to make more affordable living for americans because she has been so light on details. and we understand why they want to do it. the broader you are, the legislation likely you are to alienate somebody. >> lawrence: the question is what kamala harris shows up? is it a new improved kamala harris or is it this kamala harris? >> do you have any plans to visit the border? >> i'm here in guatemala today. at some point, you know -- we are going to the border.

we have been to the border. so this whole -- this whole -- this whole thing about the border we have been to the border. we have been to the border. >> you haven't been to the border. >> and i haven't been to europe. [laughter] and i mean i don't understand the point that you're making. >> so what else are you going to do to fix this problem with inflation? >> thank you. well, let's start with this. prices have gone up. and families and individuals are dealing with the realities of -- of -- that bread costs more, that gas costs more. and we have to understand what that means. that's about the cost of living going up. >> you need to get to go and need to be able to get where you need to go. >> brian: biden-harris administration. so she is going to talk about oil and gas. i'm not against fracking and she is going to talk about i'm not for ev mandates.

but just look at what they be doing. do you know if what they did yesterday the biden-harris administration bars drilling on 2800 acres of public lands over in alaska. really? if you talk to senator sullivan, dan sullivan over in alaska or murkowski, they have totally destroyed the oil and gas industry. they are reversing everything president trump did including anwar which was supposed to be excavated and explored. they can stop all of it. say whatever you want. look at the actions. people of pennsylvania, there's a reason why l and g is not thriving right now, because you are on a pause, thanks to president biden, to kiss up to green portion of his party. he has put lng leases on pause and excavation. >> lawrence: keep saying the biden-harris administration. i don't know if you read politico yesterday. but they make the point that donald trump campaign and j.d. vance keep trying to tether vice president kamala harris to joe biden. as if she is not the vice president. >> brian: it's not the former vice president.

>> they are trying to tether them together. >> steve: it looks like they will be tethered together and they are tim walz governor of minnesota and also kamala harris. when they are interviewed by dana bash tomorrow. we had bill mcgurn on about 45 minutes ago from the "wall street journal." and this is his observation about how much emphasis is being put on this one single interview. >> i suspect he's also there to find out what kamala harris believes. you know, he probably has no idea like the rest of us. and this is ridiculous that we're all excited about one interview? i mean, this isn't the vatican where the pope, you know, takes his time and decides whether to give you an audience. she is supposed to be out there every day. she wants the top job. >> brian: that's what marc thiessen said too why is this a

big event? trump just sat down with dr. phil for an hour. j.d. vance did two poll sides with fox and did half hour on meet the press with kristen welker. and then you have this major event, which i think might be a marching band there, too. just to introduce. >> steve: if it was on "fox & friends" we would have a marching band. >> ainsley: so embarrassing, isn't it? he is right, the media all day long today is going to say she is doing an interview. she is doing an interview. y'all can't say that anymore. is he absolutely right. all the republicans are -- donald trump has been on fox a lot. he has been on other networks a lot. he did that podcast with the famous podcaster. he did elon musk on x for two hours. dr. phil. >> lawrence: i wonder if there are going to be notes for this interview. one of the big sticking points apparently to many solve the report guiltying is that she wanted notes for the presidential debate. why does she need notes to get on the presidential debate stage and debate the policy day to day? because she is not prepared.

>> brian: i'm not sure jason miller said that but i thought he said there was some speculation. >> steve: jacqui heinrich sent out a note do you live of us regarding the muted mics that, is ongoing conversation with abc. so apparently while the trump side says that is a done deal apparently it is not. >> brian: it was trump that said that. >> steve: jacqui said it is 100 percent false that harris wanted to use notes as we have heard. >> brian: can i say one thing? bill maher should be giving credit he said she should do interviews. how can you sit with vladimir putin if you are not going to do interviews. >> ainsley: how about the report from axios two days ago saying our campaign says we might not have time to release policies. >> steve: takes so long to come up with a policy you should know what you are for. that's why it's going to be really important. we are all going to be watching. we will on friday morning talk about what she said and we will go through the list. what did she say about this, this, and this, to see how different it is. >> brian: we have to elect her

to find out what she will do. >> ainsley: then she will release the policy. >> steve: meanwhile, let's talk a little bit about this. once upon a time it was all about the american dream. >> brian: is this going to be a long story? [laughter] >> steve: no, it's not. the american dream was to, what? get married have a couple of kids, except for dawn, apparently, and. >> lawrence: shot right back at you. >> steve: do you know how much the dream of the american -- the cost of the american dream was 10 years ago. the average american said i'm going to need $130,000 to achieve the american dream. now, it is almost $140,000. >> and also, yeah. so now it's up to 178. >> lawrence: up 36%. >> brian: my dream would just be go through august without the heat being on, again. what the hell just happened? >> ainsley: what are you talking about? it's facing that way. it's my heater. >> brian: some is bouncing off steve's chin at my face. i'm getting a cloud of heat.

it reminds me of hawaii where the cost of the american dream is extremely high, lawrence. >> lawrence: looks like $260,000 if you want the american dream there got california, 245,000. massachusetts 242,000. wisconsin 209,000. and new jersey where steve lives $207,000. >> ainsley: used to be that people could retire, what? was it 62 and then they increased it. >> steve: you still can you can retire whenever you want. >> brian: just live in poverty. >> ainsley: 82% say they are now considering delaying their retirement. work longer than they plan. 39% fear not enough having enough money stashed away. >> steve: i was looking into this day. 61% of people fear retirement more than death. and to your point, brian, the worry is you could retire any time you want to, but you live in poverty. people wait until the social security kicks in. that is the number one worry that i'm going to retire and then i'm going to run out of money.

>> brian: here comes inflation all of a sudden and if you put social security with inflation, it sounds good and but it's not practical because it just destroys the deficit like you do lori lightfoot did as mayor of chicago. she puts -- she puts wages tettered to inflation. which is bankrupting that city. >> steve: if there is a cost of living adjustment, if the cola is 2%, to increase your social security 2%. but inflation goes up 4%. or, you know, a year and a half ago it was at 9% and you are getting a 2% cola you are going the wrong way. >> brian: trump should be talking about this. >> lawrence: are these people experiencing joy? because if you are on the other side. [laughter] lawrence i dealt with this for a whole week of joy in chicago. everything is going well with the country. >> brian: you needed three days off. >> steve: joy to the world. >> lawrence: over the weekend i had to be deprogrammed after all the nonsense.

>> brian: even after oprah sang it you weren't feeling it. >> lawrence: i wasn't feeling it. are you someone delaying a retirement? email us friends@foxnews.com. >> ainsley: back then what the american dream spouse, two kids, owning a car, living in a median priced home and buying health insurance through your employer. >> brian: dawn's number one fear i retire. [laughter] and that is -- i don't know if she was surveyed. that's her number one fear. >> ainsley: you'll be home. >> brian: what do you mean you? are not going back? you're done? >> steve: my wife kathy says you know you are happier when you are working. >> brian: you are happier when you are working. >> steve: she is right. i'm happy. >> brian: what are we doing today? >> steve: we are doing the news. >> ainsley: i think you spend more time here during the day than do you at home,right? >> brian: i am doing outnumbered today. >> ainsley: is that why dawn opened the store? >> brian: in case i come home early. >> ainsley: turning now to headlines, sources tell rioters

that two more crew members are under investigation following last week's deadly super yacht disaster. the ship capsized off the coast of sicily, killing 7 people including tech tycoon mike lynch and his daughter hannah. a ship engineer, a saylor and the captain are said to be under investigation for manslaughter. the engineer is suspected of failing to protect the yacht's engine room and operating systems and the sailor was on watch duty that night that the yacht capsized. the man who jumped over a bench and attacked a las vegas judge, remember that? appearing in court yesterday ahead of his trial. evidence faces attempted murder charges in connection with the chaotic incident that unfolded during a january sentencing hearing in a battery case. >> i just history. according to the laws of the state of nevada [bleep] [bleep] [shouting] >> ainsley: the trial is scheduled to begin on tuesday. the suspect has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity.

a bill in california that would give illegal migrants access to a loan program for first time home buyers now heads to governor gavin newsom's desk. the program gives qualified applicants access to loans up to $150,000 and requires no money down. state lawmakers advance the legislation even though a spokesperson for california's finance department admits the program has run out of money. newsom has yet to say if he will sign it into law. and finally, say hello to the big arch. mcdonald's' biggest burger ever. the sandwich is currently being tested out in canada and portugal. and it should be on menus here in the u.s. after a few test trials. it comes with two patties, cheese, crispy onions, pickles, lettuce and a tangy sauce. and canada the big arch meal will have a drink and costs about $9. >> brian: canadians have a good report, portuguese have a good report then we can try it. >> steve: that's right.

two all beef pattedies, sesame cheese sesame seed bun? >> brian: good marketing that you can say that. >> brian: lettuce and tomato, heinz 57 and french friday potatoes. >> lawrence: you eat potatoes? >> ainsley: occasionally i like those little kid cheeseburgers but rarely. do you eat it? >> lawrence: no. ever since -- that's all we ate. >> ainsley: growing up. yeah. >> lawrence: i don't eat it. >> steve: between that and kfc my payday my dad would bring home a bucket of chicken. >> lawrence: there is trauma there. >> brian: we got call dr. drew for you. have you two major incidents. you need to be debriefed from the dnc. >> lawrence: deprogrammed. >> ainsley: pregnant chocolate milkshake we kept going to mcdonald's in our neighborhood in new york. all of them the machines were broken. >> steve: it does make sense. >> ainsley: i need a chocolate

milkshake. >> steve: fast casual burger places are so popular and charge more. that's probably why they do that. >> brian: i wasn't born with a suction to use the -- to be able to enjoy a shake at mcdonalds. it's just too thick. i need like a wider straw. i wasn't born with a physical suction. ains. >> steve: use a spoon. >> lawrence: that's another crazy -- >> brian: too thick. >> lawrence: brian comment let it go. >> steve: are you thinking of the frosty at wendy's? >> brian: one of them. >> ainsley: mcdonald's does have the larger straws. mcflurrys are good. >> brian: blender is broken, it's too thick. >> steve: all this talk of fast food i'm hungry now. >> ainsley: we will order during the break. >> steve: former president trump indicted a second time over alleged election interference. we have legal analysis coming up next. ♪ nt lower

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bruce blakeman joined us earlier this month to discuss the new mask ban. >> it's easier for people to shoplift. car jack, rob banks and harass people. our cops will be questioning people who look suspicious, if they have a reason to believe that never engaged in something nefarious,. >> brian: not worried about the virus. demonstrators in new york city similar mask ban during college protest. doorbell camera captures a moment a cyclist is almost hit by a tree. we were there in milwaukee yesterday. tree goes over topples a. witnesses say the person on the bike did not appear to be hurt. those are your headlines, no looking at that very closely because it's almost like he could have stopped. the tree was coming down but he kept going anyway. >> brian: let me find out more, thanks, brian go do that, a fox news alert former president trump indicted again in the

election interference case brought by special counsel jack smith. the indictment was revised after the supreme court's presidential immunity ruling last month. here to react is former federal prosecutor katy cher coughs ski. hello katy, thank you for joining us you think this is purely political no reason to bring this indictment at this point. ruling needed toen litigated by the trial gruj anyway and done that with the existing indictment. this seems like a pure headline grab in my opinion during the are r. heart of the campaign season here. >> ainsley: they want these headlines right? no chance this case is going to trial before the election. so many challenges that need to be looked at with this case. again, if donald trump is elected, this could very well be jack smith's final act at all in these cases. i think this was a last ditch effort to bring this to the forefront of the headlines again. case.

>> ainsley: cases so confusing. new york, florida, d.c. georgia. >> this is the one about j-6, correct? >> this is what they consider the main election interference case that kind of big case deals with the fake electors scheme and things along those lines there is a lot of acts in those charges that deal with the presidency and the official acts that may or may not have been undertaken there. >> ainsley: the supreme court recently ruled presidential immunity for official acts. how do we define official acts? would this have been an official act? is jack smith just trying to narrow it down and frame it differently? >> according to jack smith the superseding indictment attempted to interpret the supreme court's decision to take out things that they believe would be objectionable even based on the face of the new indictment, there are still many things that are not in line with the supreme court's decision. that's why there is going to be several more layers of review at the trial level and all the way up potentially through the supreme court before this could even go forward.

>> ainsley: katy, let's look at president trump's courtroom calendar. last september 5th judge decides how d.c. case should mover forward. of december the judge decided whether to throw out the on case. 18th sentencing for new york vs. trump. on the 26th arguments begin an appeal of the $450 million civil fraud judgment against trump and his business associates. then on december 5th, arguments begin in the appeal for the georgia state election interference case. what do you think the average voter is thinking? are they thinking enough is enough? we're going after hunter biden. we are going after donald trump. let's just have an election. >> i think people are probably getting very frustrated with what i would consider lawfare. especially in the jack smith case very novelvel legal theories. these are not legitimate crimes we have ever seen charged before. certainly seems like a direct attempt to interfere with the election. so ironic in a case that is alleging that donald trump did the same thing. i don't think that is any sort of hiding the fact that this is

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northeast. we will certainly keep you up to date on that. i can't believe we're getting into labor day weekend, steve doocy. it's crazy. >> steve: i can't believe it's the last wednesday of summer. >> janice: don't say that we can eke out a few more weeks. >> steve: thank you you, janice. kamala harris and her v.p. pick tim walz are finally going to sit in front of the cameras tomorrow. but is this some of what we can expected from the vice president? >> culture is -- it is a reflection of our moment in our time, right? and and, and -- and present culture how we express how we are feeling about the moment. you know every election cycle we talk about this is the most election of our lifetime. lawrence, this one is. >> this is just extraordinary testament to the importance of having a president who understands the power of the

diplomacy. and understands the strength that rests in understanding significance of diplomacy and strengthening alliances. >> steve: okay. john roberts is the co-host of america's reports, he joins us right now. john, so she is not good at ad-libbing. and apparently in those cases, and apparently she is bringing in her co-host to help her out. >> she is. in effect. so when he talks about what can be unburdened by what has been. then tim walz is k. jump in and says what she really means is. >> steve: voice of translator. .>> it means that tim walz can gang up on dana bash. she is a terrific journalist. i'm sure she is going to ask terrific questions. one of the things i would ask if i was doing this interview by does she flip flop on issues that she held very fervent positions on back in 2019. >> i had to write them down. border wall, fracking, medicare for all. buy backs, and green new deal.

why when precisely zero people in the democratic party have voted for her to be president she thinks it's okay to skate by policy page on her website. does she think she does not need to explain this further to the american people to explain where she is. >> steve: she is a politician. a lot of politicians flip flop. they change their positions. they evolve. we have heard that a million times. but she has got to explain why. you know, when she is in the oval office, sitting next to the resolute desk talking to joe. and he says okay, i want to do this. did she say okay? i think that's a bad idea? she has got to explain the evolution of her new thinking. and you mentioned border wall, crime, gun, there we have got the flip-flops on the big screen. >> it would be nice to know why she changed her position as opposed to anonymous aides whispering on auto friday night by the way she doesn't believe that anymore. she is changing her policy. what is the policy? we had marianne williamson on our program last week. on her web page she had 31

highly articulated policy pages. kamala harris has got none. zero. >> steve: right. gout figure it's going to come up with dana bash when she talks to her and he tomorrow but then again, with the debates, it sounds like the debate is on, although there is some discussion whether or not the mics are going to be muted because apparently the harris campaign says it's an ongoing conversation with abc. abc is not commenting and so we don't know exactly what's happening. >> well, i think what is going on is you have got elements of the harris campaign that are trying to goad donald trump into saying okay. let's have the mics open. the reason why they want to do that. you go back to october 7th of 2020. the vice presidential debate between kamala harris and mike pence. every time mike pence tried to jump in and counter point something that she said, she would say i'm speaking. i'm speaking here, mr. vice president, i'm speaking. and. >> steve: john. john we got that soundbite. >> i'm speaking. >> steve: we're going to play

that soundbite. >> all right. let everybody hear. >> this is modern and i want to add, mr. vice president, i'm speaking. >> i have to weigh in. >> i'm speaking. >> you know what? if you want donald trump to win, then say that, otherwise, i'm speaking. [cheers] >> steve: john, i apologize you were speaking. >> john: i was speaking, steve. so let me speak here. let me finish my answer if i could. i think she is trying to generate a moment like that. those are the moments that stick out. if you can't fully articulate a policy because you don't really know what the policy is and you never really told anybody what the policy is, what you are relying on is debate moments. if there is an open mic phone trump is going to say something and then she gets to jump in and have a debate moment. >> steve: she needs a little something because they are going to put it on tiktok the influencers is the only people she has actually been interviewed by. >> john: she is going to try to create a viral moment and open mic can allow her to do it. >> steve: indeed. we got to talk about your show on fox nation.

it's the godfather of fentanyl. tell us about that. >> so, where we are with the fentanyl crisis. every week there are millions of fentanyl pills coming in. you know, some weeks there is enough fentanyl coming across the southern border to kill everybody in america. and tens of thousands of measures have died because of this scourge. this traces back to the origins of the fentanyl price a guy george eric mark wart. he was a genius high school chemist dropped out of high school because he wanted to cook drugs. he cooked lsd, he cooked heroin, he cooked methamphetamine in a winnebago which some people say was the model for walter white in breaking bad. and then in the early 1990s, he cracked the code for creating street fentanyl. it was originally marketed as tango and cash heroin in new york city and the east coast. people started dying with needles in their arms because it was so much deadlier than heroin. we traced that whole thing until he was released from prison on

compassionate release because he had cancer and the guy from the oklahoma bureau of narcotics james mat gear interviewed him. so we wrap all of that together and tell you what the origins of where we are today came from. >> steve: did you a great job. people love "breaking bad" you're going to love this check out "the godfather of fentanyl" with john roberts on fox nation right now. of course, watch him in, let's see 1:00 this afternoon on "america reports." >> john: the team did a terrific job putting that all together. i'm just happy, steve, i still got 45 minutes when it's 8:30 when i decide whether it's going to be a good day or bad day. >> steve: john that's at 8:36. >> john: almost an entire hour. >> steve: thank you, sir. we will be watching you later. all right. still ahead on this wednesday, arkansas governor sarah huckabee sanders is going to join us live. but, first, a patriotic parade, oklahoma students waved the stars and stripes after classmate was banned from flying the flag on his truck. will and pete go off the grid.

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♪ >> lawrence: so bill belichick may have led the new england patriots to six super bowls but even he has gripes about the

massachusetts taxes on monday belichick says the extra 4-cent tax chutes. taxes on income of $1 million and up is another thing to here to weigh in pete hegseth and will cain. gentlemen, i will start with you, first. is he just saying what all of us have been saying for years about taxes? >> pete: sure, it makes sense. logic this way. lawrence you are paying taxes every state you do a diner. in it would actually be better for you since you pay most of your taxes in new york. when you go to tennessee. >> lawrence: i will take it. >> pete: texas and florida not paying anything that week. a taxachusetts paying 12% state income taxes you are competing against the dolphins who have a 0% income tax rate in florida. if only it worked that way.

if only it worked that way, will. because in your vaunted nfc east, new jersey, they pay 10%. d.c. they pay 10%. philly pays a big tax and cowboys pay nothing. yet, you guys don't win. so i don't know really know why it doesn't work more straightforward when it comes to state income taxes. >> will: if you come at the king you best not miss. [laughter] >> will: three straight years, okay. three straight years of 12-5, prior to that 12-4 when we had 16 game season winning the nfc east. we fail in the playoffs not the regular season. so the substantive point of this topic, it is funny i wish in free agents cared more about taxes. for years the dallas mavericks making this pitch hey come to texas we have a zero percent income tax yet they choose to play in new york or l.a. bill belichick saying something we all intuitively think is true. why would you go play in massachusetts and pay an extra

10, 11, 12, 13% when you can play in florida or texas or tennessee and pay zero percent. i'm glad to hear bill belichick say reality actually mattered in the nfl. taxes matter to where people move. >> lawrence: i'm a little surprised by this story i got to be honest, pete, when it comes to this young man being penalized for having the american flag on the back -- in oklahoma, i mean, it's right on the border of texas, they share our value snl. they are not quite texas. but what do you make of this story? >> pete: well, first of all it's a school administrator holding down a safety issue with the flag. it's always safety, flight this is also just north of oklahoma city. so i have a lot of friends from oak city. that's the tall buildings crowd in oak city. oklahoma city. a little ethos bleeding into the suburb. good on the kids i don't care suspend me. i don't care suspend half the school. show up with the american flag. school policy no flags.

they say no flags then not going to have us. good on the kids who are leading the way on this. >> lawrence: will, let me read this statement and i will get to you respond. it's a two pager. it's the practice of edmond's public school to not fly flags or bring flags of any kind on our school practices. this practice in place for several years and explained to our students. to be clear this is not about the american flag or patriotism. edmond public school proudly displays the american flag in the respectful way outside of each of our buildings and in our classrooms. will, do you think so this is a proper excuse? >> will: well, i will latch on to a word you used to set up this topic, lawrence, you said you were surprised. and so am i. i'm surprised to the extent that i have to step back for a minute and go is this more complicated than i want to make it? so i'm going to be hobbit with you. pete, i will be real with you. i don't think edmond has a bunch

of left of center people. oklahoma is as red as it gets pretty much all over the state. >> pete: yeah, it is. that doesn't mean you hire school superintendents from across the country. that's what i was going to say. you are right about schools. schools can be little oasis of leftism within right. little osei siss the blue within red. i don't know whether she or he is not. i know this probably isn't the most popular take. i think this is actually more complicated than we want to make it lawrence. first of all the school says if i allow one flag i do have to allow all flags. do i have to allow the kid comes in and bring the pride flag. i'm surrounded by flags. texas, alamo flag all above my head right now do. they have to allow them all? then i can get past that and say no the american flag is different. we allow the american flag, that doesn't give license under free speech to allow the pride flag. in that's our policy. but then i do think there is a legitimacy of them saying do we

allow gigantic flags flying out of the trouble in the parking lot is that a school safety issue? my point is i'm not ready to leap to this being another example in he hadmond oklahoma of them saying we don't appreciate the american flag. i do think that school administrators are put in some difficult positions to say one flag all flag. flags everywhere or flag no, sir where. i don't know yet that this is actually some huge problem in our culture or administrators trying to figure out how -- >> lawrence: what have you done with will cain? >> pete: i don't know, i will leap on behalf of him. >> pete: they are banning the american flag from the parking lot. if you can't -- if we have got one flag that matters in our republic, what is it? it's a pretty easy ground to stand on. i get what will is saying. will is an analytical guy smart guy i get it. i'm trying to be fair. >> lawrence: texas boy that grew up with a lot of people in texas on the back of their trucks with that same thing happening. been happening for years in texas.

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