change that donald trump clearly articulated first that she then took an. >> where did that come from? where did she read that -- i mean -- >> sandra: i got to wrap -- spee what know but one -- what makes her so -- in all -- >> sandra: is going to be interesting. >> how does that happen? >> sandra: we'll be all smug for voters to hear tomorrow night. some sad news to report now, james earl jones comfortable -looking tv and film actor, has died. the current was behind darth vader and the lion king was a celebrated icon on screen and off. james earl joins was 93 years old, passed away today. all right. that -- okay. >> hello, everyone, i'm judge

jeanine pirro along with jessica, jesse watters, dana perino and greg gutfeld. it is 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." >> judge jeanine: bernie sanders dropping a bombshell on kamala right before the debate. the vice president gearing up for her big showdown with former president donald trump tomorrow night and she's turning to method acting to prepare. according to "new york times," harris' been holdup for five days in a pittsburgh hotel doing highly choreographed sessions with an advisor dressed up like donald trump. there is a stage and replica tv lighting and an advisor in method actor mode, not just playing donald trump, inhabiting him, wearing a boxy suit and

long tie. harris will be super careful to pretend she is a moderate. do you think she's abandoning her progressive ideas? >> i don't think she's abandoning her ideals, she's doing what is right to win the election. >> judge jeanine: harris giving this preview how she will attack trump. >> he tends torfight for himself, not the american peoples, i think that will come out during the debate. i suspect he will -- i think he's going to lie and he has a play book he's used in the past, be it his attacks on president obama or hillary clinton. expect that might come out. >> judge jeanine: okay, jesse, before i get into the specifics. three years and niep months in

white house, 50 days without a real presser other than the one with the coach and five days on lockdown, what is kamala worried about? she is the vice president? >> jesse: she's worried about people getting to know kamala, she's insecure and hiding has not worked. it's backfired and we'll talk about polls, that are showing tied. she is not flip flopping, she's a fraud, saying whatever to win. she does not care if you lose, all she cares about is winning. she does not want to do the job, she wants to get the job, that is what i hammer. everyone knows she was for reparation, defunding the police and abolishing ice. be steady and statesman-like,

she is depending on him snapping. as long as he does not snap, he'll be fine. she's been secretive and de dependent on handlers and you don't want anybody in charge that is dependent. look back at her debates as far back going against d.a.s in 2003, two guys she was running against, she comes out after they said the willie brown thing. they caught you at a massage parlor and you are a dead-beat dad. good moments against brett kavanaugh, against jeff sessions and against biden. she is nervous and the team is service, she keeps tries to get in the weeds about policy. she will not win on policy. she's been overpreparing for got you moments she thinks will be able to make her win.

if she has won, the media will say she's won. see how trump does. i think he's in a good position. >> judge jeanine: jessica, 28% don't know what her policies are or what she stands for. when bernie sanders is asked if she's dropping far left policies, he says, in order to win the election, "she's trying to be pragmatic in order to win the election," how mack valian is she? >> i'm sorry, does anyone running for elected office want to lose or feel okay about losing? i'm sure bernie sanders in his d darkest moments sitting there said if i had moderated -- >> judge jeanine: she will sell her leftist agenda to win? >> you mean like sell it out? she has not pair parroting

medicare for all, defund the police since 2019. i know there is this debate about how much should she cue toward president biden and last four years or three years, that is her record for better or worse. that is record bernie sanders became most vocal defender of. it loobed like biden was going to be kicked out, he said this man needs to stay in, so good on climate action. bern better than, it is not a got you moment. 28% don't know where she stands. what i found to be one of the more interest ing points from te new "new york times" sienna poll, how much she has to grow with young people, latinos and black voters who want to know more about her.

the issue with trump, has he hit his ceiling? it is clear kamala, she may lose the election, she still has room to grow and has to tell people, this is who i am and how i governor for next eight years. >> judge jeanine: greg, the harris campaign is downplaying her performance before it happens. what is that about? >> greg: good strategy. you can't lose if people underestimate you. she will always -- she wasn't that bad. jesse made a good point. i wish she was flip flopping, then that assumes actual change. it is a flip-flop flip, which is actually a lie. they always change, bernie pointed it out and jessica is rhythm, it is realistic thing except when it comes to dems, they do it every time and revert back to what they were. don't even take bernie sanders's word, take joe's word, he

admitted the reduction act was a climate swindle. people are concerned about price of food and energy for their family to find out the white house was not addressing that, it was fabrication, trojan horse to cover up for climate swindle. how can you trust them after that? how do you forgive them? dems are losing men faster than j.lo. how does harris address that in the debate? is that possible? jesse mentioned these issues with safety and security, defunding police, pro-blm riots, she praised smollett, compared that to a lynching. she released illegals to reoffend, she has not done much about cop killers and pushing death penalty. shouldn't women care, as well? how come women don't care?

i think they do, they have been told to care about one thing and that is abortion. thankfully, the supreme court and trump decoupled abortion temperature is not a national issue, it is you hava table. women don't have to be single issue voter, they don't have to ignore crime and education, what we call the rest of the world. you don't have to vote based on what planned inner pahood demands. he said he is against a national ban, it is for states to choose. this will come up tomorrow and trump needs to say, this is not part of my decision-making, it is back to you. a vote for or against trump from a woman has no impact on the issue of abortion. has no impact.

dems don't want you to know that. they are reductive. if you're a woman, it has to be about abortion, how insulting is that? how stereotypical you can't think about inflation or foreign policy, that is not important, it is my right to choose. it is not on the table. >> jessica: why did trump flip flop on it? he did last week in florida. he said he knows six-week abortion ban is draconian, then he said, i will let it go. >> greg: this is a state thing, closer to voters. you can bring that up, that is playing in the weeds. i'm talking about the issue is decoupled from the election. >> judge jeanine: right, not an issue in terms of what has hap happened. women can vote in the states. dana, she is so worried about this debate, everybody knows, if you prep too much, you freeze.

she is practicing the hand shake, how she walks on stage. i described in the beginning, lighting is the same. phillip raines is playing trump. she was getting ready for a donor dinner and had to practice holding wine. how inauthorizentic is this wom? >> dana: you have to wonder about the staff that puts that out to the press, that is what you release to the press, those details? i wonder, we'll see, her strategy could work, it might work. it is tied, we'll see. they have been conservative getting her out there. bernie sanders thing is great example if you seed the ground to everybody else. this is always a sunday show every sunday. what you do, look and say, bernie is going to be on meet the press, who is calling bernie to tell him absolutely do not

say she is a radical progressive in sheep's clothing, don't say that. he does say it. and it reminded me of the 2004 campaign, when a young man, joe founder found that one nugget of john kerry saying i voted for it before i voted against it. george w bush said, got it, he went with that. the book "liberal fascismism," what stuck in my mind, how patient progressive are. they know where she is. they know where obama was. they arin foo, they can pretend he is not for this or that and she is not for this or that, she's never had to say what she is for, everybody else is saying it for you. bernie sanders was important. ra rafael asked about the gun buyback. i think she will do that when

she gets in. >> judge jeanine: great points. coming up, kamala's sugar high comes crashing down. new poll shows she could be in majority are on trouble m november. ♪ ♪ the good, the bad. help us turn to you in everything. amen. you should join me in more prayer on hallow. stay prayed up.

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>> dana: had to come to an end. summer of joy is over and kamala harris' momentum comeings to screeching halt. trump is beating kamala harris by one point. gray lady suggesting harris' support stalled after august. big problem for vice president,

voters think the country is heading in the wrong direction and this is considered a change election. 55% think harris represents more of same and 60% see donald trump representing change. cnn election guru sounding alarms. >> polls over the last week or so, what do we see? tighter race, tie in cbc poll and srelrs poll and this is pat m pivotal state. we saw a small harris lead in margin of error becoming a race that is way too close to call at this particular point, one that is even. >> dana: kamala harris might be back to being the incumbent after being like brand new. >> greg: like to make a point. >> dana: love it. >> greg: kat's back comes out, it is about be ing binary and

nonbinary. if you don't like trump, your only choice is harris and you have never-trump republicans selling out core values, capitalism, taxes, immigration or crime. if you don't like trump because he's a meany, you have no choice but to vote for a leftist. in 2016, i did not vote for trump, i did not like him as a candidate, that did not mean i voted for hillary. i did not vote. i wrote in ruth buzzy. they are trying to trick you into thinking not voting is not a vote. you are not required to vote for the other side because you don't like your guy. you have people in kamala's camp convincing others to explain their choice and make the case. kamala can't make the case herself. she's like a criminal suspect who sends her family out to

speak on her bal because she is behind bars. but she is not behind bars. you don't need work of mouth, if you have an open mouth. you have mark cuban talking about how he speaks to her often and daily and he understands what she stands for. that is nice you have knowledge with her. is this campaign strategy one big game of telephone, you talk to her and go on msnbc or cnbc? no, maybe talk less to cuban and talk more to us. cut out the middle man. >> dana: there is rumor her campaign is in disarray, meltdown going on. >> i'm an open nerve ending, dana, i was feeling this for a week and a half while jessica was pooh-poohing. s significant. >> judge jeanine: let it go.

>> jesse: "new york times" comes out, i predict she will call this an out liar, pew research poll has a tie race, therefore a tie race means a trump landslide. right now "new york times" according to latest poll, gives donald trump 99% of winning this election. nate silver, who has been like two weeks efforted probability of trump winning increases, gives trump 64% chance of winning this election. great sduf from polls, great stuff. trump is more moderate, harris is seen as too progressive. trump is more popular than he ever was in 2016 and in '20 and in change election, trump is seen as the candidate who will bring change and this country wants radical change. we're going in the wrong direction, economy is in a bad place and harris is seen as tied

to status quo and joe biden. kamala had strategy to take three weeks off and not define herself and be vague, mysterious kamala. that back-fired and trump filled the vacuum and other people filled it, her team could not fill it. now everybody is like who is this woman or no, she is california socialist. >> dana: what do you think, jesicca. >> j >> jessica: out liar was going to come out of my life. i did not see the forecast. there was 99% chance hillary was going to win and donald trump did. >> jesse: how did that go? >> jessica: traumatic four years but lived to tell the tale. you be careful. [laughter] >> jessica: "new york times"

sienna poll, a plus poll. if it were to bear out findings they came to, it would be gre greatest racial and generation al since the 1960s. if we're to believe kamala up three points with 18 to 24 year olds or she is up 55% with black voters. do you think donald trump will get more black voters than in 2020? sure. i don't think she will be that short on it and her advantage with woman turning out in droves to vote, she is up by 10 in this poll. it says to me, donald trump will take every white working clas voter in this country, i would have easier time believing that than she will win by three points. >> dana: we'll see.

joy will get you so far and judge, what do you think about strategy of sitting on that lead for three weeks and letting trump define her while they sat back? >> judge jeanine: it's a shame. truth is, i thought it was longer. if you, i don't see the interview with thech as a real interview. so for me, it is like seven weeks allowing herself to not be out there and answer questions a allowing other people to define her. that is negative. everything is going to depend on tomorrow night, she has allowed all this time to pass, either she is weak, not smart or has to memorize lines because she does not know about the policy or doesn't agree about the policy or she doesn't remember what she said about the policy. she has to memorize her lines. that period of time, she's lost

and shame on her, she needs to worry, she did not do that. when you have 28 p % of people who say we don't know what she stands for and tie to 5% who are truly undecided, that makes for a very fluid race. we have a lot of people don't know what is going on, trump support is resilient and her support among latinos and young people is not as strong as trad tradig traditional democrat support. she is not as strong as other democrats have been and you will see a different number ultimately. trump's lead, he's seen as more se centrist candidate. why? maybe tulsi gabbard, maybe r.f.k. jr.

maybe four years later we say, he was not as crazy as media tried to make him out to be. another important point and i'm trying to figure out what it was, change candidate. fact 44% think she's a progressive tells me that she has not said anything in the last 3-1/2 years. she's so tied to biden she can't get away from him and that is going to hurt her. >> dana: okay. tomorrow night is the night. coming up next, bad news for last person in the room, kamala harris. house gop releasing scathing report on the deadly afghanistan withdrawal. ♪ what can i do to make a better cotton crop? we believe that the best products are made in america and come fresh from the family farm.

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>> greg: kamala harris trying to pin the chaotic afghanistan withdrawal on trump. house gop releases report what went gone outlining how joe biden ignored military advice and afghanistan pleas and lied about it. here is what one lawmaker who wrote the report had to say. >> this was a catastrophic failure of epic proportions. state department by law has the authority authorized by congress to come up with a plan of evacuation known as the neo. state department wholly failed in that responsibility. when you don't have a plan, you plan to fail. this was a failure. >> greg: there is campaign

releasing statement trump left biden-harris with little information for dangerous withdrawal, only a dangerous, costly mess. that is not what i heard. i heard they had a plan and abandoned the doha plan. >> dana: they first defen ded themselves and then said it was their idea all along. mike pompeo said that is not what it was going to be like. biden was like, i'm going forward. harris made sure severyone knew she wrote harris was here, she wanted everybody to know she was the last person in the room to talk to. fast-forward to the campaign.

she knows the anniversary is coming up, they say this again, it is trump's fault. there are cameras, she can step out and make a statement and have a person in the background say biden had no idea what he was doing, she can't do that, she wrote harris was here with her book. with the job losses from covid and the shutdown, they act and will say that biden would not have had any job losses because economy would not have shut down, they would have handled covid differently if in power. so unbelievable they are trying to rewrite history and it is not working either. >> greg: judge, kamala blames trump. if it had gone right, would she have credited trump? >> judge jeanine: i think history has given an answer to that one. if she wants to claim credit,

take responsibility and truth is that "new york times" poll shows 50% blame kamala a lot for the withdrawal and i think that feeds into the 44% who believe she is leftist progressive. so much we can talk about. biden did not listen to his generals or the pentagon and according, i think on page 26 of the report, the chief of staff of operations said president biden decided we were going to leave and he was not listening to anybody. i will never forget, like when america crossed rubicon, when biden administration said we're leaving and yeah, there will be some americans left behind. in my life, as an american, you always believe the calvary is coming for you, this is first time in my life that i realized

there were politicians who did not believe in that concept. you have joe biden, whether a callous foreign policy withdrawal or the fact he's been wrong on every foreign policy issue he's ever been involved in, according to bob gates, you look at everything that has gone wrong. he comes in and funding iran and now terrorism all over the place, right after afghanistan, russia invades ukraine, like the world fell apart when the world looked at what they did and then we had pineapple express mission, people like cory mills who 4 their own mission to get americans and afghanistans who he helped during that time out. >> greg: you can argue republicans are exploiting this

catastrophe, the dems were exploiting this whole exercise for political optics and rushed the thing for a political reason, they wanted it out, it was supposed to be timed, when they shouldn't have. where do you stand on this catastrophe that your party is responsible for? >> jessica: i stand nowhere near that vantage point on this, at least in terms of timing issue. republicans on foreign affairs committee would be better served if they let democrats participation in creation of this, gregory rinks, ranking democrat said they were not invited to participation and they were not even shown a draft when it was released and the timing makes it clear they want joe biden to look good and joe biden and kamala harris to look like an idiot.

problem for trump, he has people like mcmaster, who has books out and defended trump a lot saying plainly and clearly trump bears some responsibility for this. not all, some responsibility because of the february 2020 negotiations that released 5000 taliban prisoners, including terrorists. that was his deal. there is a new ad sfaz out about trump on national security and has people like mark asperand john bolton talking about how he's not fit to serve. he idolizes dictators. >> greg: they are scared of them, they are part of the blob. establishment group of people that don't like him, we know that. we know it. >> jessica: we don't know it, you will continue to find out, i will tell you everyday.

>> greg: never be surprised by people complaining, they are the same people. jesse, final word? >> jesse: kamala harris, she will try to distance herself from joe biden while embrace joe biden for 90 minutes. she has to distance. this is how she does it. dana says you are the last one in the room. i was last in the room, but when things were falling off a cliff and taliban moving on capitol, i would have been faster reacting and i would have gotten us out faster. then turn to donald trump and say, we got us out of afghanistan, you didn't. hope she is not watching. listen, i'm a california woman, things are different in california, it is progressive, i know. when i went national and figured out i had to govern entire

country, i saw things that work in california does not work nationally and that is where i am today. hope she does not listen to that. >> judge jeanine: well, people believe that. >> greg: got to move on. ahead, media laser focused on stories like kamala's dorito stash. ♪ ♪ move over, darling. if my heart bends. (tony hawk) skating for over 45 years has taken a toll on my body. i take qunol turmeric because it helps with healthy joints and inflammation support. why qunol? it has superior absorption compared to regular turmeric. qunol. the brand i trust.

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do you admit it's rigged? >> jessica: it is rigged, you just told me you guys are winning, how credible trump is. i think she's been locked in a room for five days and there is nothing to write about. she went to the spice shop. the woman is sobbing she needs kamala to be president. >> dana: interesting about the spice market trip she took. selina zido said, why would you go there? you look. on the web seat, this is fully l leftist business where she could go and be welcomed. do you think they could walk into any small business, buy a round for everybody like chick-fil-a or burger king or wherever trump did that most

recently, they can't do that. like the wa-wa stop, nobodies there and j.d. vance at that one donut one, don't at me. that was one. this looked like it was supposed to be spontaneous. living in a hotel five days, is she cooking in their? she does not take opportunity to say anything. you have that situation. i do think that if trump had gone to this spice store, all the articles would have said their spices are up 28% under inflation, but none of the stories said that. fair point to make, they don't do it. >> jesse: can media ask questions or do they stand silent while she looks at oregano. >> dana: don't wait for a question, i have something i want to say. she never takes the opportunity to take the opportunity.

>> jesse: look how goofy that is. how goofy that is, spice girl. there you go. >> greg: you could be in the media, she puts nut in nutmeg. [laughter] >> greg: if they do photo ops, good, fine. people have to remember that journalism is profoundly shallow enterprise. days of old, they were blue collar barely educated drinkers with notepads, now over caffeinated, over educated seat warmers whose only angle require they don't have to call anybody. they file stories that are high in sugar and low in substance. it used to be media included people magazine, now they are people magazine. i don't think reporters like to report. they don't. used to be that is how you made your name.

as a former veteran journalist, at men's health, i researched abs before anyone else does. there are eight packs. >> dana: how many minutes to get to one? >> greg: five, five minutes of flat abs per day. >> judge jeanine: if they don't, can i sue you? >> greg: no, i was probably only person at men's health to be sued. >> judge jeanine: for that? >> greg: for something else. >> judge jeanine: shallow, first word on my favor, even jessica can confirm. shallow. >> jessica: rest is garbage. >> judge jeanine: they are trying to make her seem like she lives like the rest of us. she lives where the vice president lives, someone buys groceries, sets machienu, washe.

if you can identify good spices can make you president, i will vote for gordon ramsay. craziest part of the story, guess who wrote it? associated press took unambiguous statement that j.d. vance wrote and turned into negative against j.d. vance. enough said. >> jesse: see gordon ramsay's birth certificate. is elton john going maga? ♪ ♪ let's get started. bill, where's your mask? i really tried sleeping with it, everybody. but i'm done struggling. now i sleep with inspire. inspire? inspire is a sleep apnea treatment that works inside my body with just the click of this button. a button? no mask? no hose? just sleep. yeah but you need the hose, you need the air, you need the whoooooosh... inspire. sleep apnea innovation.

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♪ >> jessica: we know how sir elton john feels about donald trump's rocket man nickname for jong-un. >> donald has been a fan of mine and been to my concerts many times. >> jessica: isn't this what we want in life? >> dana: little rocket man maybe my only nickname i loved, b brilliant, as well. elton john and i like this. >> love the art and hate the artist, if bernie sanders were to buy my book because he can

appreciate good writing, i would appreciate bernie, despite me individually, takes discerning elevated human to have that sort of opinion. >> jessica: judge? >> judge jeanine: i really liked it, so comforting. oh, boy, does elton john trash don? answer was no. i like him. other thing i want to make note of, donald trump, you know, he knows pop culture. he was a celebrity running hotels, had stars singing at hotels, he understands celebrity and pop culture, it is not fake like other people running for president. >> jessica: greg? >> greg: i think it is refreshing, a lot of entertainers have huge egos and that is what makes them so

antag antagonistic toward trump. i'm not a huge fan of elton john. i found "uptown girl" terrible, "we didn't start a fire." i thought he grew up in allentown. born to run, i like that song. >> judge jeanine: yeah. >> jessica: one more thing is up next. ♪ hold me

♪ ♪ >> it's time for "one more thing." speak of the greatest voice in hollywood history james earl jones has suddenly passed away at the age of 93. he was a cinema legend, voiced

iconic characters like darth vader, mo fosse, as well as starting on screening classics like "field of dreams," and "the hunt for red october close to help your key will be missed on screen and off. tonight, "jesse watters prime time" scoop. we go inside, 8:00. speaker rest in peace. a great deal of respect. okay. it's time for fashion finds. [laughter] all right. meow out of the way, humans. these dogs took over the runway and strutted their stuff for the new york fashion week. these posh pooches were paired with designers and models as they made their way down the catwalk to raise money for nonprofit animal welfare organizations. there was positive energy throughout the events. some dogs even getting adopted on the spot. greg. speak of those models are bitche

ss. [laughter] >> we have a great show tonight! her new book drops tomorrow. on the cover, covered in mail. it's called "i used to like you until," and that's how binary thivides us. buy it, order it. it comes out tomorrow. i read it. it's fantastic. i am mentioned in it a lot. does a lot of juicy details. lots of juicy details. >> go kat. >> this governor saved the guy who was choking at a lobster roll eating contest. also, on politics today with kevin mccarthy, just posted. >> that was fast, dana. that's it for us. have a great night. >> judge, thank you very much. >> good to see you.