gone through a real life-changing experience this year. we don't know how serious it has been. we do know it has been serious enough to barely do public engagements and not committed to any the rest of the year. she has been through a very serious bout of cancer. not over yet. she is out of the woods. i really admire the fact she said it doesn't matter how rich you are or how successful or privileged you are, in the end cancer is the great leveler. at the end of the statement she said i want to reach out to everyone, everyone who has cancer and say i'm holding your hand and i'm on the journey with you. i thought it was really powerful. >> brian: great review. >> ainsley: lawrence is heading out at a diner tomorrow at the spring house market in washington, pennsylvania. if you are there, go visit him. >> brian: special coverage from 5:00 to 9:00 if we decide to get up in time. >> bill: good morning and face-to-face now for the very first time.

final prep underway for the abc news debate tonight. in a race this close, the stakes could not be higher. good morning, i'm bill hemmer live in new york. they have never met before. >> dana: i thought that was interesting. >> bill: in the room for the first time. >> dana: i'm great. i'm dana perino and this is "america's newsroom." this is like a little bit like the playoffs. >> bill: yes. like the championship game before the super bowl. we've had this date circled on the calendar for three months and so finally it's here. >> dana: it's less than 12 hours from now. vice president harris and former president trump meet on the debate stage in philadelphia. the showdown is seen as their best chance to sway undecided voters in a race that could be decided by the slimest of margins. >> bill: trump is expected to go over harris's policy flip-flops, fracking, medicaid for all, the border wall. harris under pressure to explain the reversals going 51 days

without a formal news conference. >> dana: alexandria hoff has the latest on the trump campaign. peter doocy is with the harris campaign in pennsylvania. you are in a place for the media, right? >> it is the same spot and alex can hear my voice even if she isn't listening to "america's newsroom" right now. but we have new intel why kamala harris, the vice president, is suddenly so much more moderate in 2024 than she was in 2019. her team is saying that all that time with joe biden has rubbed off on her. >> vice president harris has spent the last 3 1/2 years as the vice president of the united states. and what has she been able to do as the vice president of the united states? able to work with president biden toward consensus-driven solutions that can make change in people's lives. you bring up medicare for all. she doesn't support that and not running on medicare for all.

>> but she was only five years ago and she says now her values haven't changed, which means at some point she may have to explain the evolution from the last cycle when she said she would back taxpayer funded gender reassignment for inmates and spending cuts to ice. she said this in a questionnaire five years ago. our immigrant detention system is out of control. i believe we must end the unfair uncars ration of thousands of individuals, families and children. i was one of the first senators after president trump was elected to advocate for a decrease in funding to ice. tulsi gabbard, herself a harris debate alum, has been helping trump prepare. >> she has hollywood advisors, stage, hollywood lights in the hopes her friends at abc and propaganda media will declare her the winner and it may be enough to trick voters into actually voting for her. i don't think the american people will fall for it. >> the harris campaign waited

weeks to release an issues page on her website. it came out yesterday and outlines the broad platform that she has. but it is unclear now what took them so long to put that site online because the new republic went and looked at the code of the website and they found out that large chunks of it are just directly copy pasted from the biden issues website. >> dana: national review looked at it saying this is the same thing. what in the world is going on? what is the atmosphere like for after. we'll talk a lot about the debate come up but then where are they planning to go after this to try to make the most out of the battleground states? >> so tomorrow everybody will be down because there are events commemorating the anniversary of september 11th. thursday the harris campaign will send her down to north carolina, the charlotte area. that's the state that they think they can put back in play and so

we'll see how things go tonight. if it changes their plan. they say they'll be in charlotte and greensboro on thursday as their first post debate. they will have t-shirts printed with something she says tonight for that event on thursday. >> dana: the reason i brought that up and you say north carolina, it is so interesting. on the podcast i did with kevin mccarthy yesterday he said pennsylvania, georgia, north carolina are the ones he is paying attention to. do you think trump could lose north carolina? no but she will make it very close. >> bill: i would agree with that. if he wins the three states he is the president again. alexis mcadams was in pittsburgh for five days. she saw kamala harris twice. can you top that? >> no, i cannot. it sounds like the vice president has had a lot of hotel room service in the last five days leading up to this. we don't know exactly why they felt like they needed to go to

pittsburgh to do this debate camp except for the fact that it is a battleground state. they want to show they have connections to it. but yeah, she went for a walk and went to a spice shop in pittsburgh and otherwise she was just in there apparently sparring with an aide who was dressed as donald trump and who spent months rewatching old trump primary debates with the sound off so that he could have the mannerisms down. and these are the kind of things you apparently have to do if you are trying to train someone to debate donald trump, who has never actually seen donald trump in person except when she went to the state of the union address as a senator. >> bill: we can't wait and it is 12 hours away. talk to you later today. thank you live there in philly. want to bring in harold ford junior and caroline downey with us now. here are some of the trump allies on what he needs to do tonight. watch here. >> those independents and uncommitted voters, this debate will show why donald trump is

the only choice in 2024. >> he will frame the race in people's minds and have a decisive impact. >> get her on policy like you did in biden in the first debate. disciplined, tough policy-oriented donald trump. >> he ended one presidential campaign the last time he -- he should expose kamala harris's radical record. >> bill: what does trump do tonight? >> hammer home all the policy extremism she is trying to divorce herself from and point out she is a phony, fraud, the fact she has flip-flopped from her 2020 presidential campaign platform and now trying to moderate to the middle. that's blatant pandering. nobody is buying it. very disingenuous and say you have been lying to the public. this is always the risk, by the way, of her leading this phantom campaign of ghosting the press unless they write a puff piece about her.

it allows your opponentent to define who you are. trump has this blank slate, prime opportunity to characterize his adversary and kamala harris will be in defense mode. he shouldn't underestimate her. she will be extremely rehearsed and scripted. this should be a home run for him. >> dana: bill mcgurn writes that the low expectations for miss harris may be an advantage. all she has to do is not humiliate herself and her performance will be hailed as a triumph. if the press corps did its jobs, but it won't it's on donald trump to do that job himself. she has taken some criticism for sitting on the lead, basically. "the new york times" poll now, super tied. what do you think? >> good morning, good to be with you. we've been waiting for this day and she has an enormous test in front of her as does president trump. president trump has debated six times at the presidential level.

this will be her first. this is not to suggest that i think your points are well taken. i think she has to project leadership tonight. if i'm her, i don't try to litigate every point. some of the issues and concerns that trump campaign has expressed about her perhaps changing and shifting positions, i think she should talk about a philosophy. how she will govern. it will be one or two instances she should probably engage the president on. i wouldn't engage president trump on every one of them. we're about to commemorate 9/111 of the greatest failures of imagination on the part of our national security apparatus. she should talk a little bit about that. lean into that and let the country understand she can govern and i think the biggest part will be where she distances herself from president biden. are their differences in how she will govern? did she take some of the positions shared because she was serving at the pleasure of the president? how she does that will determine whether or not voters believe that they should give her the

confidence to be president. president trump has to show discipline. if he does that he will have a good night. >> bill: my guess is as you see the debate rules on the screen, the same as in june. frankly, i think once we get to this cycle we have to rip this thing up and start all over again. the muted microphones. no live studio audience is a rip-off for the american people. i think you hear a ton from him of 3 1/2 years. late last night the story broke apair interestly she filled out a questionnaire five years ago. a lot in it about funding trans surgeries for migrant inmates. decriminalizing drugs. ice, ripping it up. here she is from the year before about abolishing ice. >> there is no question we have to critically re-examine ice and its role and the way that it is being administered and the work it is doing and need to probably think about starting from

scratch. >> bill: what the campaign is telling us. the statement from last night. the vice president's positions have been shaped by three years of effective governance as part of the biden-harris administration, which suggests she will say now that i've been in government, my mind has changed. does it sell? >> she said recently transparently that her values have not changed and we know that her values with the border are essentially an open border. she actually once advocated for decriminalizing illegal immigration and the humanitarian side of things. national sovereignty is a concept foreign to her. so i think again, her values, her underlying values are extreme but she has tried to moderate to win some of those independents in the swing states. on this debate stage trump should ask her, you know, why the sudden change? why didn't you give us a conversion story about immigration? because we now have a crisis that has made every state in

this country a border state. it has imported it to our doors in even the most faraway places like martha's vineyard and massachusetts. so that's what i think trump needs to do there. >> dana: one of the things from "the new york times" poll was people are saying they want change and that they associate change more with trump than with kamala harris. her campaign slogan that we'll hear tonight we're not going back. she wants to be the change agent. can she make that sale? >> you have made that point. that may be the most important takeaway from that poll. in most presidential races defined by who can identify as the change candidate. why i think tonight projecting leadership, selectively showing where she will differ from biden. maybe polling shows why people want change and what issues and positions this administration has taken that need to be changed. and we'll get a chance to see if she does that. i think some of the flip-flopping and shifting, i don't have as much of an issue

with any candidate shifting on an issue if they can lay out why. if it's driven more by ambition as opposed to wanting to impact policy and change people's lives then i don't want it. if it is wanting to change people's lives and you can honestly say i was wrong, we have had that with republicans and democrats. we'll see if she is able to persuade that her shift is indeed authentic. >> bill: what bernie sands said on sunday. >> thank god he is not the nominee. can i see one thing. james earl jones, such a joy he had and brilliant and condolences to his family. >> bill: what a life. >> dana: we have a friendly disagreement about the debate. i think that the not having the audience and the debates is -- might not be such a big show for the audience that is there but i do think for people who are really wanting to listen so that it doesn't devolve into a food fight. remember the debate, primary

debate, you couldn't get a word in edge wise constantly interrupting. i think it's going to be very interesting. can she fill the two minutes? >> bill: i totally agree. we're in agreement on that. exactly right. halfway through the moderators at cnn said you have a minute 36 seconds left and got halfway through the debate and we have to make a point. filling the two minutes. then with another minute to rebut. we'll see how they do on that. >> dana: stay with fox news channel for the live simulcast of the abc news presidential debate. the special coverage begins at 5:00 p.m. eastern and goes until the end. >> bill: all night, right? we're watching the storm, tropical storm storm franseen gaining hurricane strength in the gulf of mexico will develop into a hurricane as it slams into texas and louisiana later in the week. stay tuned for that forecast coming up here. >> dana: chilling new details on the suspected kentucky gunman accused of shooting five people. the text police say he sent

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>> we have a duty to honor the selfless sacrifice and the greatest price that was paid by those 13 brave servicemen and women. you had husbands and brothers and sisters and fathers in that group. great americans. what we're going to do is issue for them the congressional gold medal to their families, the highest honor congress can pay to civilians or to military personnel, to any group. >> dana: house speaker mike johnson hosting a congressional gold medal ceremony to honor the

13 service members killed at kabul airport days into the chaotic withdrawal. staff sergeant taylor hoover fell that day. his mother and father join us now. i'm honored that you are on the show with us today. kelly, start with you. for you and darren, the most important title you ever had in your life was mom and dad. and today is a chance for you to be there where they honor your son and all that you did to raise him to be the person that he became. tell me about what this means to you to get this honor today through the speaker of the house. >> thank you, dana, it is a great honor. with that it's a very deserved honor. i am very -- i'm so proud to be here. i'm praying that my son will be with me today and kind of hold my hand through it. i'm so proud and thankful for speaker johnson. >> dana: darin, the republicans

put out a report yesterday, quite detailed. it took three years to do the investigation. what do you want people to know? i know you've asked people to read the report. if they take the time to do that, what would they take away? >> i think they would take away the absolute horror that the state department and their cowards were not on the ball with the exit from the embassy. i think the d.o.d. should be ashamed for the way that they handled it. they basically left our kids out on an island and set them up and given those circumstances the kids still -- still made the best of that situation and they came out heroes. but the -- the garbage goes clear to the top from the state

department, d.o.d., n.f.c. and right up to the office of president. >> dana: kelly, you say you are looking for accountability. does this report help you get that? >> yes, it does. it helps with the future. i definitely think people need to be held accountable. they need to come forward. they need to be called on it. these 13, these 45, these thousands that were on the ground, they did their job and did the state department's job. they were prepared. did their best. they went above and beyond. the people that put them there that threw them there and said you will do this no matter what, you know, no matter what comes your way you will going to do it they need to be held accountable for the chaotic, non-organized mess they threw these kids in.

>> dana: final word about what you hope going forward that this report helps. i saw that yesterday you said we can't have 22 a day because of the ptsd they're all dealing with. final word to you, sir. >> that's absolutely true. we've got all the men and women on the ground that day dealing with the most horrific things they saw and things they dealt with. we need to do better as a country in order to help those veterans so that the 22 a day does not continue to happen. we owe these men and women everything. we owe them basically our lives, our freedoms, and to have them have the withdrawal happen the way that it did, it's not fair to them. they spent 20 years fighting this war and left their blood, sweat, tears, and in some cases

their body parts, their minds were messed up, and we have a duty -- we have a duty in this country to take care of them because they took care of us. and that is the one big takeaway that needs to happen for these men and women. >> dana: kelly and darin, our audience can see some pictures that you've provided to us of your lovely son, taylor. what a handsome kid and perfect blend of the two of you. thank you for coming on the show today and hold each other tight as you go through this ceremony today for this honor. >> thank you, dana. >> thank you. >> bill: a tough moment there for them. we'll watch next hour. 25 past the hour. new details on the georgia school shooting. there is now body cam footage with audio that shows police officers interviewing the suspect and his father last year on their front porch.

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harris and her record. president trump knows her record. he obviously has a record of success that he can stand on. and he will challenge kamala harris on exactly that and keep reminding voters who she really is. >> bill: 11 hours, 30 minutes to go. come over to the board and show you new polling numbers that came out of the tar hill state in north carolina. right there. let me -- that's a little ugly but i got it now. here is what we got from quinnipiac. harris 49, trump 46. still within the margin of error in north carolina. let me clear this and go to this is georgia. by the way, in north carolina you see who is not on here? robert kennedy. very significant late last night. talk about that in a moment. georgia, here we go. trump at 49, harris at 45. slightly outside the margin of error, 3.2 for trump if it goes that way. the calendar.

all this stuff is changing. we're here now, presidential debate tonight. we thought north carolina would start on friday and all that has been put on hold because of the decision from the state supreme court late last night. we'll get to pennsylvania in another week and virginia popping up here down the calendar route. presidential race. show you north carolina right now and show you what joe biden did well in north carolina back in 2020. essentially in north carolina he cut the margin from hillary clinton in half. trump won the state 1.4 points but if you go back to 2016, same state now, trump won the state by almost four. biden did better. a lot of these big counties where you found raleigh and charlotte. and that helped keep biden competitive. let me go back to 2020 so you see it again, all right? trump wins the state. it was close if you remember that night.

74,000, 481. what do democrats smell in north carolina now. do they see something here? if so, are the 16 electoral votes up for grabs for kamala harris? >> north carolina went for donald trump in 2016, went for him in 2020 and it will go for him again in 2024. the democrats have definitely been investing a lot of time and energy in north carolina. at the end of the day north carolina voters want a strong america, they want a strong north carolina, they really truly care about the same issues we see in other battleground states. whether or not we have a strong economy, a strong southern border and we'll have a strong standing in the world. this one poll is an outlier. every other poll we've seen over the last several weeks shows president trump with a consistent durable one to two point lead. about where we feel that state is right now. but we feel very comfortable that donald trump will carry the

tar heel state. >> bill: our polling found that trump leads nationally among independents by eight points. this is what they found in north carolina he only leads by five and then in georgia it's tied 46/46. >> you have to go into the different methods and cross tabs. what we like to do is look at each individual poll over time and how it is doing compared to previous polls. one thing that we have seen in all of the battleground states is donald trump is doing better than he did at this same time in 2020 or even 2016. so we feel very comfortable about the margins and what we're seeing. we're also seeing growth on him. we can tell the sugar high for kamala harris after they pushed joe biden off the stage is wearing off and this thing is returning back to what we think is a regular election cycle conversation. where it's going to focus on the

issues and donald trump has a very durable lead when it comes to issues like the economy, inflation, the southern border, and where we stand in the world with our relative strength compared to the rest of the world. >> bill: we'll see how he makes that argument tonight. robert kennedy wants off the ballot in all the battleground states. he is getting his wish in north carolina. on the screen now. in michigan he remains on the ballot. i don't know what wisconsin does in the end. right now he will be on the ballot in wisconsin. maybe that changes. north carolina late last night said it will cost us money, it will cost us time but we are going to take his name off the ballot. ras the effect of that whether it's in north carolina or michigan? >> well, i think all of those voters are going to take a hard look at donald trump. i think they will like what they see. the fact that robert f. kennedy, jr. has said that kamala harris is a threat to democracy and he certainly has the stripes to show it is going to really have

an impact on his voters. what we're already seeing is a dramatic decline in people who were voting for other. people are picking sides and when they do, that settling out is a net positive for donald trump. >> bill: something we'll be watching carefully come the evening of november 5th. 30 seconds, michael. what should viewers expect tonight? >> they are going to see donald trump lay out his vision for making america great again. the only candidate in this race who is trying to unify the entire country and who is going to talk about how he is going to restore our southern border, rebuild our economy and make sure that america is strong enough to be able to protect our interests at home and abroad. >> bill: we'll be watching. michael whatley, head of the rnc, we'll speak soon, thank you for your time today. >> thank you. >> dana reads sports. >> he was there and it is a little flip, a catch, a fumble

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broad daylight and tried to rob him and he got shot in the chest >> dana: he got to thank the emts that helped him on the sidelines. >> dropping my papers over there. no way to start an election, right? >> dana: it will never happen again. >> bill: from your lips hope so. wildfires raging in the west. we're live in san bernardino, california where the largest fire is threatening californians as we speak. the latest polling showing the economy, immigration and abortion are the top issues this election. fox news talked with young voters across the country about what matters to them. >> domestically i would say definitely inflation and rent prices, the housing crisis is something that i think the biden administration didn't really tackle nearly enough. so domestically i would

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>> bill: we have new details after the school shooting in georgia on this investigation. we're getting body cam video of officers from the sheriff's department visiting the suspect's home a year ago, may of last year, 2023. they spoke to the father and then the son on their front porch about a threat he had allegedly made online. here is part of that. >> do you have weapons in the house? >> i do. >> accessible to him? >> they are. there is nothing loaded but they are. we actually we do a lot of shooting, a lot of deer hunting. he shot his first deer this year. >> did you say something about a school shooting? >> maybe misheard somebody else. i don't remember saying that.

>> you never ever said -- >> no, i swear. >> bill: authorities say they could not substantiate the details of that threat. fast forward a year now. officers arrested that teen suspect for the shooting at apalachee high school in northern georgia. he is charged with killing two classmates and two teachers. authorities charging his father with manslaughter and second degree murder that we watched here on "america's newsroom" inside the court in georgia. it is a captivating piece of video. it goes for several minutes and you have the father first talks and answers questions and then the son comes out and it is in light of what we know now, it is something to watch. >> dana: we also think about the victims. nine additional victims injured and several have a long way back and have them in our minds as well. >> bill: in the meantime we move to kentucky. a manhunt now in its fourth day for the shooting. the suspect in a mass shooting on kentucky interstate i-75. joseph couch allegedly opened fire on the highway saturday and

wounded five people. they say he is armed and dangerous and nowhere to be found. madison scar pino is in london, kentucky with more on that story today. madison. >> good morning, bill. dozens of law enforcement officers are on day four of the search for the alleged shooter and they are warning people here in the community to stay inside. imagine just driving down i-75 and getting ambushed by bullets. that's what happened here saturday evening. thankfully the five people shot are expected to be okay. after the shooting they eventually found the former army reservist's car and ar-15 weapon used in the shooting but not him. it's not an easy location. the terrain is hilly and lots of trees. the search area is a jungle. >> this manhunt has become a methodical effort like a hide

and seek. hopefully he has no water and nothing to eat and time we'll wear him down and put pressure on him. >> he also says there is a chance that couch is not around the area anymore. he is already being charged with attempted murder and assault. the affidavit shows a text from couch to a woman just 30 minutes before the shooting. according to the affidavit the text says, quote, i'm going to kill a lot of people. well, at least try. couch sends another text that says, quote, i'll kill myself afterwards. police believe he is still out there and combined $15,000 reward for information leading to his arrest. law enforcement wants this area to be on very high alert. schools in laurel county are closed for a second day in a row, bill. >> bill: thanks, madison. good to have you there in london, kentucky. when there are developments we'll bring you back. thank you for that. >> more interviews about what

specifically her record is. >> she doesn't really have a political stance on a lot of things just trying to seem like a friendly candidate to everyone to try to get people. >> i'm really just waiting to hear what else she has to comment on because i haven't really heard much else. >> i don't know if there will be a huge difference, necessarily. but i think there needs to be more transparency with the american people. >> just be strong on your stances and have reasons to support them not just support them because you want these people on your side. >> dana: young voters telling fox vice president harris needs to be more committed to her policies instead of trying to be popular. let's bring in jimmy failla, host news saturday night. how much did you try to be popular? >> great question. my analysis of this election kamala is running for class president. that's been the hang-up, okay? trump is running for president. this is what i'll do with the border and economy. kamala in pushing the joy and

vooibs thing is pushing to an electorate that doesn't have the luxury overlooking the issues facing them. the economy, people know trump was better with jobs. even the people trump fired got book deals. the guy was creating jobs. i think the issues are breaking big don's way if he can stay on message tonight. >> bill: some of those people work at other networks now, too. to your point about issues, "new york times." how much blame to you think kamala harris has sitting vice president on rising prices? 54% say that. problems at the border, 63%. >> for real. the only thing higher than inflation are the people who think bidenomics is working. you have to be on something. everybody is confronted with this every day. not about messaging. the messaging comes from the cash register and bank account. when it comes to the border they are insulting voter intelligence trying to claim they are suddenly the pro-border security party after four years of

decrying border security as racist. it is like putting snoop dogg saying weed is bad. we know you don't feel that way. how dare you. that's what they are doing. good on young voters for moving away from this and demanding more transparency. they aren't getting it. >> dana: let's play this quickly. do you remember this woman? she wanted humanitarian aid after two hours of protesting. >> do you want students to die of dehydration and starvation or get severely ill even if they disagree with you? if the answer is no you should allow basic -- it's crazy to say we're on an ivy league campus but basic humanitarian aid. could people have a glass of water? >> dana: she is teaching at the same university contemporary western sievelylation. >> that sends a message if you break the law they won't hesitate to give you your own parking spot in the faculty lot. the most absurd protest of all

time. door dash and we want it now. think about the message they are sending to students. they rewarded this. it will now teach that future generation and the only thing i want credit for, hemmer, is this thing did not go on at my alma mater, nasa community college. they only time we protested was when they ran out of schlitz. >> bill: what is modern western civilization, when does it start? 2012? >> america is bad. that will be $3 hundred thousand. >> bill: been too long. >> every saturday night through the election i'm live. >> bill: you need to book snoop dogg. thank you, jimmy. so tonight is the night. it could be the single biggest event of this election cycle. we don't know, it's possible. first debate between kamala harris and donald trump.

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>> dana: fox weather alert. louisiana bracing as franseen builds in the gulf of mexico likely to become a hurricane today expected to make landfall in louisiana tomorrow. the coast is under hurricane and storm surge warnings and mississippi to east texas are under tropical storm warnings. a lot of water to be dumped on those folks. people are preparing for flash flooding, power outages and life threatening storm surge. fox weather is your hurricane hq. scan the qr code at the bottom of the screen and download the app. it's free and great and get you all the information you need. >> bill: raging wildfires forcing thousands of people in california to leave their homes. seven large fires burning across the state. one of the largest called the line fire consumed more than

23,000 acres in the san bernardino mountains. jonathan hunt near the scene live in that county now as the sun comes up and breaks on another day we hold our breath for. jonathan, hello. >> for sure, bill. good morning to you. good morning, dana. this huge fire still burning. it has burned through something like 40 square miles so far. this is what the result of that looks like. the charred hillside as far as you can see here pretty much every piece of vegetation burned. there is little left here. that was here just a couple of days ago. this fire only 5% contained so they have a long way to go, firefighters, in getting it under anything like control. it is now burning in the direction of big bear, a popular ski resort and summer vacation spot for a lot of californians, that's the big concern now. meanwhile thousands of people

are under evacuation orders. as always in these situations, many of them reluctant to get out but the sheriff says they should do, leave it to the professionals to protect their properties. listen to the sheriff here. >> you can rest assured if anybody comes out and attempts to loot in this county they will be arrested and prosecuted. we will be out there in force making that happens including undercover units. >> the national guard is now here, bill, trying to help out. four helicopters coming in, to fixed wing aircraft doing everything they can but it is a tough fire fight they're involved in. >> bill: thank you. hopefully the winds stay down and cross our fingers for the folks out there. jonathan hunt in southern california. thank you. >> dana: guess what, bill? an hour closer tonight. the road to the white house runs through philadelphia. donald trump and kamala harris meet in person for the very first time