think he is incorrect in this one. you can get a salad in new york city for under $15. we all know that. i know, $6 is a lot for a cup of coffee. do not touch my grande whole milk latte. it's the thing at 6:00 in the morning that makes me happy. all right, kevin? don't touch it. >> you have to make yourself happy while being in your budget. >> there are a lot of things we waste money on. if it makes bill hemmer happy, it having my tea that i know is overpriced, with nothing in it, just plain coming because of the green of it, if that makes me happy, i'll just cut it out in other ways. he's got a good point. we can't just spend and be anesthetized about it. we have to wake up and say, what can i check off my list? >> very easy solution, taco bell has stayed cheap. i'm here to tell the story. sub in taco bell for the sandwich. >> thanks to everyone. don't forget to dvr the show and watch the debate here, the abc

presidential debate tonight. "america reports." ♪ ♪ >> he wants to turn the page on the past. she represents a new way forward for this country. where donald trump represents something old, something stale, something people are ready to move on from. >> they going to see donald trump lay out his vision for making america great again. he's the only candidate in this race trying to unify the entire country. >> it's about going after the character but also talking about policy, because your character influences values which influences the policies you have. if she pains that picture, we are well on our way to being where we need to be to enact this election. >> lino president trump is an incredible debater. we need to keep that bar high for her because, again, she is seeking the highest land in the office. >> john: that's what's being said and that is a live look at the spin room at the national constitution center in

philadelphia. his hours from now, former president trump and vice president kamala harris will face off at the very first time in a presidential debate, and the stakes could not be higher. hello, i'm john roberts in washington. this is a big, big day, sandra. >> sandra: the day is finally here. good to be with you. i'm sandra smith in new york and this is "america reports." the two candidates will lay it all out on the line tonight, getting a rare opportunity to defend themselves and make a direct contrast to their opponent. that could be especially important for kamala harris. a "new york times" siena poll fined 28% of voters say they still need to learn more about her. >> john: while donald trump is a far more known quantity. only 9% of voters feel the same way about him. younger voters speaking to fox say they still feel left in the dark about what harris stands for. because she has been in power for the past 3.5 years. i think it needs to be answered. more interviews about what is specifically her record. >> i would rather have someone who has their stance on exactly

everything, exactly what they want to see, not just a "yes" man for the public. >> i guess i'm waiting to hear what else she has to comment on, because i haven't really heard much else. >> sandra: so we have an all-star lineup of guests with analysis across the next two hours. but first let's get right to senior white house correspondent peter doocy. he is live from philadelphia for us at this hour. hello, peter. is the harris campaign planning to have her explain all the flip-flopping that she has done since announcing her candidacy? >> yes, sandra. the campaign is telling us that the vice president's values have not changed, but that lately she is just being practical. >> i think what people will see is what her actual governing principles have been. it's about making sure we can actually get common sense solutions done. he talked about health care, for example. she is proud of the fact that we were able to build on the formal care act, making sure we kept the cost of insulin for seniors

at $35, that we cap out-of-pocket prescription drug costs for seniors at $2,000. >> overnighted in philly, trump on his way soon, and he's bringing specific jabs about immigration policy. >> his vision for this country is a 180 degrees different vision then kamala harris, who wants to leave our borders open, who wants to continue to tax people, who wants to make sure our enemies around the world don't fear us and our allies don't respect us. >> all the big speech of area roads, 95 and 676 and the expressway has a digital billboards up today warning about trump's threat to abortion access. we expect that to be a centerpiece of the harris debate strategy. campaign is also using a new ad starring barack obama to telegraph another potential line of attack on trump. they could accuse him of having crowd-size envy. >> this weird obsession with

crowd sizes. it goes on and on and on! america is ready for a new chapter. >> the former president saying america is ready for a new chapter. kind of curious, because if you go to the brand-new harris issues page on your website, the new republic looked at the computer code and, as it turns out, big chunks of it are just copy pasted directly from the joe biden for president issues page. >> sandra: as far as we have observed, this wouldn't be the first time that they have found to be doing that. peter doocy, it's going to be quite the day, quite the night. thank you, sir. john? >> john: let's bring our panel. brett o'donnell is a geo-peak medications consultant who has prepped several presidential candidates for debate, and terry's implant was one of president barack obama's longest serving speechwriters and he's also the book "say it well."

and terry knows what that's about. thanks for being with us. we are to borrow a page from fox sports. the keys to the debate tonight. first of all, brett, give us your three keys for donald trump tonight. >> i think the first thing is that donald trump has to make this debate about policy and not about personality. as long as he is focused on tying harris to the past and the failures of this past administration, then he is on the right course. because he has to make this a referendum about the status quo and the biden-harris administration. finally, he's got to paint her as a weak, failed, dangerously liberal candidate who would endanger the future. >> that is for team trump. what about team harris? what are the keys to the game tonight? >> is the exact opposite. she has to define herself. the most important thing you can do in any debate is define yourself and the opponent and the choice. what she has to do is define herself, show that she's a

moderate focused on middle-class issues. she has to define him. he is now the oldest president running. the majority of americans say they have serious concerns about his mental abilities, his former press secretary has talked about his mental decline. he has to frame the choice. she's framing it as one between moving forward versus returning to the policies of donald trump. >> john: donald trump is a known quantity, as we pointed out, and only 9% of voters think they need to learn more about him. much more of an unknown quantity, kamala harris. and bill mcgurn is blaming the media for that. that tonight should put a spotlight on her policy but she's got a free ride from an incurious media. he writes, "ironically the licks vacations for ms. harris may be an advantage. all she has to do is 90 million herself and her performance to be hailed as a. at the press corps did its job, would all know more of what we need to know about kamala harris and what kind of president xi would make. but because it won't, it is all on donald trump to do that job

himself. so trump -- i don't know what the moderators are going to ask, brett, but bill mcgurn is suggesting to be has to highlight her record and flip-flops and lack of explanation. >> he does, not just flip-flops. he's got to say she is lying and that she's covering up the fact that she is response will for the problems americans face, whether its economy, immigration, crime. all the major issues that americans feel that about are the fault of policies from this administration. he has got to tie her to those. people have very little about her. they don't even blame her very much for this administration's policies. she needs to get the blame and he needs to be responsible for doing that. >> john: she's trying to portray yourself as an agent of change in this election, but we talked with governor john carney of delaware and he suggested she is not the change agent, she is more of the same. listen to what he said. >> she has run and is running on

the record of president of the united states, and i believe that is a winning record. >> john: she has run and she is running on the record of joe biden, the president of the united states. as we pointed out, her issues page on her website is basically copied and pasted from the joe biden website. if you're trying to be the agent of change, don't you need to have some new ideas? >> there's different ways to look at change. there's also the issue of generational change. as i said at the beginning, you have a 78-year-old former president to spend most of his time focusing on his own pet peeves versus someone who is 20 years his junior who is focused on what she wants to do for middle-class families, someone who grew up in a middle-class family, someone is policies revolved around support for middle-class families, tax cuts for middle-class families. >> john: the most of her policies from 2019 she has left behind. she has turned 180 on those and she would explain why. talk about generational change, democrats have been in charge of

the last 16 years. so really the candidate for changes donald trump, because they are in office. it is a kin to o.j. looking for the real killer, when she is suggesting change. >> john: final question to you, terry. a new "new york times" siena poll found overwhelmingly voters see donald trump as a change agent rather than kamala harris. >> what is fascinating is that so many republicans are choosing not to support donald trump yet again. we had a remarkable development the other day where dick cheney, one of the most conservative politicians in america -- >> john: it's like, bring it on. >> it's a powerful statement. one of the most conservative politicians in american history in recent decades has made the choice to support kamala harris because he and liz cheney believe donald trump is such a threat to our democracy. that is significant. >> john: read what liz cheney said about kamala harris four years ago and what democrat said about dick cheney. strange bedfellows. >> so many republicans are supporting harris.

>> john: terry, welcome to the program. good to see you again. tune into our special coverage of the abc presidential debate simulcast. our coverage begins at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. ♪ ♪ [taps playing] ♪ ♪ >> as gold star parents, our grief never truly ends. it changes, it transforms, but it remains with us always. a big part of us died with our children. august 26th, 2021. >> today their love lives on in a families, in the neighborhood they were raised, and through their he lacey.

we honor their heroism with the congressional gold medal. >> sandra: a moving ceremony and emotional moments playing out on capitol hill today as house speaker mike johnson presented congress' highest honor to congressional gold medal to the 13 service members killed in the withdrawal from afghanistan. among those who died, mary and lance corporal riley mccollum, his father joining us now. thank you for joining us today. tell us about what that presentation meant to you and your family. >> thank you for having me. good to see you. it was a beautiful ceremony, and for the 13 families, it was one more step towards our kids finally being recognized. it's been absent for so long. the rnc was a huge moment for us. arlington unfortunately was a beautiful moment for us that we took a punch on, and then this

one, we are starting to feel that america does care, and our elected leaders do care and are finally recognizing us, which is something we have been asking for very long time. so today was very meaningful to the 13 families. >> sandra: which is what you should have felt, as family members who lost their loved ones that day. you should have felt it out of the gate. and so many of this leadership, i know so many of the parents and the families have said they feel that our government failed them. speaker johnson went further in that ceremony talking about the need for apologizing, on behalf of the u.s. government. listen here. >> to the families who are here, i know many of you have yet to hear these words, so i will say them. we are sorry. the united states government should have done everything to protect our troops. those fallen and wounded at abby gate deserved our best efforts.

>> sandra: that was speaker johnson. here is more from senator schumer and mcconnell also from that ceremony. >> to the citizens just really trying to escape the taliban's rule through abbey gate on that fateful day, these americans were something more: heroes, guardians, saviors. >> they lived out childhood dreams. they bound up the wounds of a war that had spanned their entire lives. >> sandra: what did it mean to you to hear those words in washington today? >> it was comforting and very much appreciated, when speaker johnson said "i'm sorry." i think all of us parents -- i know on the side i was sitting, we all, you could just see the relief. i don't even know what it was. but holy cow, somebody finally said they are sorry.

and for me that was an absolutely beautiful moment, and i felt it. the whole ceremony in its entirety was absolutely beautiful, and to hear the words they did say, regardless of politics, i wanted to hear it and i needed to hear it. and to hear "sorry" was probably the most impactful thing i did hear. >> sandra: wow. another father who lost his son that fateful day, he joined us yesterday, and he lost his son, kareem, as you know. he still feels like he hasn't heard what he needs to hear specifically from the biden administration following those decisions. listen. >> the administration lied. if it wasn't kamala harris, it was jen psaki. if it wasn't her, it was pierre.

the one that's representing the white house. and they are lies and are finally coming out and being shown is what they are. >> sandra: some powerful words there from him. i will ask you, this is likely to come up tonight on the debate stage. it very well could, and should. what message would you want to see and hear from those candidates on the stage tonight, for the world to hear, having lost her son? >> i would love to have them recognize the 13 and what a mess the last three years have been. i think today was a good step towards that. i hope they take what we just went through in that ceremony, take it and run with it. the sorry, and acknowledging our kids. president trump has been absolutely amazing with us and for us.

i would love to the biden administration and particular now kamala to recognize them. own up to the mistakes. we all make mistakes. things happen. it was a difficult situation and a difficult time. but did not say anything has been absolutely heartbreaking for us. so let's move forward. mention them, acknowledge them. acknowledge their mistakes. and if you would say i'm sorry, that would be huge for us and for america and to start moving forward. it would be a step in the right direction. >> sandra: really important that we continue to hear from you and hear your message, and remember your son, riley. pictures on the screen right now. we thank you for telling your story. thank you. >> thank you, ma'am. appreciate you. >> sandra: john? >> john: never forget. two planes full of passengers

colliding airport in atlanta this morning. how that incident unfolded, coming up next. >> sandra: placed a fast spreading wildfire in southern california is forcing thousands to flee their homes. jonathan hunt jonathan hunt is reporting from san bernardino county. what are you seeing, jonathan? >> sandra, firefighters are battling flames and triple digit temperatures. we will tell you whether they are winning that site and where the flames may be headed next after the break. product, where your retirement money and investment portfolio could go up with the stock market lock in your gains? and when the market goes down, you don't lose anything. forward with your money. never backwards would have that investment strategy, that product actually existed? good news! it does! if you have at least $100,000 to invest, get your investor's guide and see if it's right for you.

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investigation into the collision. senior national correspondent william la jeunesse is live with more. william, that was quite a collision. one of the planes looks like it is totaled. how is delta reacting? >> well, delta and everyone involved, they are working with the ntsb to find out how these planes got so close as to crash or collide. it happened about three hours ago, 10:00 a.m. eastern. when you take a close look at how close this came to being a catastrophic accident, and airbus with 221 the board was on the taxiway heading from atlanta to tokyo when its wings clipped the rear end of a much smaller regional jet. if you look closely, that cut the tail off just above the rear engines, causing the entire section, the horizontal and vertical rudder, to fall to the ground, just missing any fuel lines and the rear exhaust port. delta reported no passenger

injuries. here is jason adam saying that was terrifying, taxiing, and another plane appears to have clipped the back of our plane. very jarring, metal scraping sounds and a loud bang. we are fine, no siren no smoke, waiting delta instructions. passengers from the smallie damage plane were at the terminal. the airbus taxied under its own power to the terminal. delta set all the passengers got on alternative flights. hartsfield, as you mentioned, john, being the busiest airport in the world with more than 2,000 flights arriving and departing daily. you have been there. it's like a freeway. kind of the hand of god up there in the tower making sure there's no collisions. the tower coordinating this ballet of these massive airplanes going up and down come in and out, all day. back to you. >> john: quite amazing. i thought it was something when a couple cars bang into each other beside me this morning. nothing compared to that. thank you for the update.

sandra? >> sandra: a massive wildfire forcing thousands out of their homes as the fire is ripped through southern california. officials say the line fire is exploding in size because of strong winds and dry conditions. the national guard is being deployed to help. chief correspondent jonathan hunt is live in san bernardino with the latest. jonathan, how much of this fire is under control right now? >> not very much. just about 5% containment. and it has burned 40 square miles. that is what 26,000 acres is, basically. and this is what it looks like across much of that 40 square miles. pretty much every tree, every piece of vegetation you can find, burned to a crisp as those flames swept across here over the last several days, stand by those winds you mentioned and encouraged too by the triple digit temperatures we have been facing here. governor gavin newsom declared a state of emergency. he has sent in the

national guard. there are also four helicopters that can drop water, two fixed wing aircraft now dropping fire retardant. so they are doing everything they can but the flames are still moving right now towards the resort town of big bear. that's a very popular ski and summer resort, so they are very concerned about that right. thousands of people have been ordered to evacuate across this area. some have, some have stayed, and our fox affiliate caught up with some kids, in fact, out watching the flames last night with a mixture of fear and excitement. listen here. >> we just stayed inside either one of the houses, because it has been smoky outside. >> it's been kind of hard to breathe at night because it kind of went to the house, so we had to buy air purifiers and stuff. >> all this destruction, the mountains were burned down, and the fire was close to the house. it's kind of scary.

>> now, south of us in orange county there is a fairly intense smaller but still intense fire building interview in trabuco canyon near rancho sa margarita. back in the san bernardino national forest, sandra, up on the road just above us here there has been a steady stream of fire trucks going up and down, just showing you how hard these firefighters are working. temperatures are beginning to dip a little bit today down into the 90s. it'll drop another 10-15 degrees overnight. that should be a huge help, but there's a long way to go in this fight, sandra. >> sandra: a huge task. jonathan, thank you very much for the update and we will see you again soon. >> john: on the subject of huge tasks, a massive manhunt in kentucky after a gunman shot people on interstate 75 over the weekend. the chilling message police say he sent just moments before

going on the rampage. plus this. >> he knew he was so loved. fentanyl claimed our son. >> there are no words that describe the heart-wrenching pain of losing your child so horrifically. >> sandra: a congressional hearing today focusing on the border crisis and the devastating toll it has taken on american families. vice president harris, will she offer any solutions on the debate stage tonight? former acting dhs secretary chad willis is here to weigh in. hi, i'm greg. i live in bloomington, illinois. i'm not an actor. i'm just a regular person.

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and i am an independent. i vote both ways. it's insulting. please don't. >> for me, because i'm still talking. i'm not done. i have the floor. i have the floor. if you want to answer me, he asked. >> the witness is allowed to respond. >> you said some very broad statements. it's insulting. these people lost loved ones. they lost children. and we want to see a difference. we may not understand everything that's going on, but i assure you that we are not being used in any way. if today some because that number and wants to help from any side of the aisle, we want solutions. >> that's what i just talked about. >> i'm still talking, so please don't make an assumption that we are being used. that is insulting. speak of the time belongs to the chair. >> it's insulting. >> the chair yields the remainder of his time from stomach to the gym and from texas. >> sandra: just months ago,

explosive testimony. earlier today describing how their lives have changed forever by tragedy. chad wolf will join us in moments. first let's get to chad pergram. he is live where all this just went down on capitol hill. hi, chad. >> sandra, good afternoon. this was chilling testimony from family members of people killed by people in the country illegally. ahead of the debate tonight, and her son died from fentanyl. >> i hold joe biden and kamala harris responsible for my son's death. they open border policies have led to this devastating crisis. our tragedy could have been prevented if they had taken decisive action to protect americans from fentanyl flooding over the borders. >> her 12-year-old daughter was murdered. it is believed migrants from

venezuela are responsible. the details are graphic. because she was strangled to death. she had no clothing from the waist down. her aunt and her ankles were tied , and thrown under the bridge in the water like she was nothing but garbage. >> democrats allege republicans are trying to make these hearings political shortly before the election. but democrats say don't blame the current administration for all the problems. >> this is not a story that began four years ago. do i blame president trump for those crimes? of course not. he has his own crimes to worry about. >> now democrats predict harris will show tonight she has the proper national security bona fides to the nation, but republicans believe the debate may only underscore failures by the administration at the border. sandra? >> sandra: chad pergram, thank you. >> john: let's bring in chad wolf, executive director of the america first policy institute.

when you listen to some of that gut-wrenching testimony on capitol hill today, emily compagno said it very well. she said, where's the prosecutor? wears the tough on crime border czar and all of this? >> i think that's exactly right. when i hear that type of testimony, hear a lot of passion, but hear someone come over there it's the family or individuals, advocates looking for solutions. they are tired of what they have seen over the last three and half, four years of these policies making communities less and less safe and more and more victims. they want solutions and they get very frustrated. the cleat you showed, very frustrated that the left continues to dismiss those concerns, the grief, and say they are being used by some. that's simply not the case. they are trying to deal with what's in front of them, what is facing their communities, and they want solutions. and they are not hearing any

from the folks that are in charge today. >> john: i don't know how much the debate moderators tonight will drill down on the border, but if they do to a significant degree, that's going to put kamala harris in a difficult position. >> it is an impossible position. she has a worse track record imaginable along that border. as someone that was put in charge of the border, whether you want to call her the border czar or not, her track record and the fact that the border has seen an explosive increase of millions of individuals from all over the world, to come to that board and be released into american communities, and the victim as we see every single day, the national security threats coming across that border, the number of known and suspected terrorists, criminals, her track record is abysmal and there is no way that she can defend that. but she will likely do is simply point to president trump and say, i don't like his policies, i don't like what he did, but don't look at my record, because it is indefensible. >> john: well, here is something else she's going to have to defend against. any incident that happened on martha's vineyard.

an illegal immigrant charged with child rape, month after being freed from prison. "the new york post" wrote of this way. he popped back up on i.c.e's radar into the very last year after he was arrested by local cops and martha's vineyard on a slew of charges, including speculation, assault and battery on a family or household member and he was he arrested and indicted in superior court on the rape charges. federal officials said. here is a guy he was arrested, freed from prison, and then rapes a young girl. how do you explain that, let alone defend against it? >> there is no explanation. obviously he should have been turned over to i.c.e removal officers when he was in jail and they figured out he was an illegal alien. my guess is, if there was a detainer lodged, it was not recognized by local law enforcement there, and hente was released to offend again and again. this is what we see every day

from these sanctuary jurisdictions. if you go back to vice president harris, she has advocated in the past, she wanted to cut i.c.e funding and cut or eliminate i.c.e detainers and eliminate i.c.e detention. if you do any of those three or if you do all of those three, that border is so wide open, there's no enforcement. today it gets much worse, but that is what she's advocated for. >> john: she also advocated, according to that aclu questionnaire back in 2019, for taxpayer-funded gender transition surgeries for detained migrants. she's got a new issues page up on your website, much of which is cut and pasted from the old joe biden website. here's what she says about her policies on immigration. "harris knows our immigration system is broken and needs conference of reform that includes stronger border security and an earned pathway to citizenship." j.d. vance responded to that this way on x. "if there's a take away from

this section, it's that kamala opened our borders to 8.5 million plus illegal aliens, lied about it for almost four years, blamed others when she got caught, and i want to reward those illegals with citizenship." last thought? >> absolutely. this pathway to citizenship they continued to talk about is just going to incentivize more and more illegal aliens coming to that southern border. it is no solution to the border crisis. the two are completely separate. no one can define or tell me how providing amnesty or a pathway actually solves the crisis. what it will do is drive more individuals wanting that same amnesty, that same pathway, and you will see this border crisis explode even more. >> john: we will see what comes with it at the debate tonight, 9:00 this evening. just about seven hours for now. thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> john: tammy nobles is one of those parents who shared her

story of loss on capitol hill today. she will join us next hour to talk about her ongoing fight for justice after her daughter was murdered by an illegal immigrant. stay with us for that. sandra? >> sandra: former new york governor andrew cuomo appears on capitol hill today, as well, to give his public testimony about his handling of the covid pandemic. what will he say about his decision to force nursing home patience to be admitted as patients? we are listening for that. >> john: and counting down to the president of the bait. undecided voters eager to hear with the candidates have to say. lindy lee is a major fund-raiser for kamala harris in pennsylvania. she will tell us what she thinks harris can do to enact the keystone state, and the white house. stay with us.

>> there's a lot of optimism

around what she can bring to the country. she has been in power for the past three and half years, so i think you need to be answers. >> i think she's a little vague on certain things, just trying to agree with a lot of people. >> be a peace candidate, not a war candidate, pro-war candidate. and crackdown on immigration. that would win my vote. >> sandra: undecided young voters are looking for answers from vice president harris about where she stands on key issues like the economy, immigration, foreign policy. she appears on the debate stage tonight opposite former president donald trump. lindy lee is a member of the harris national finance committee, and a delegate for pennsylvania. welcome to you. thanks for joining the program. >> thank you so much for having me. >> sandra: first up, manage our expectations for tonight. what do you hope kamala harris provides an undecided voter on that stage tonight? >> thank you again.

she's going to focus on issues. she's going to talk about the opportunity economy she has already unveiled, and bringing down costs for americans and also unveiling her child tax credit. he's going to be focusing on issues time and time again while trump is going to be focused on petty disputes. >> sandra: let me stop you there. let's dig in because i think this is really important, the people here where she's going to stand on these issues. because we haven't seen a lot of interviews, we haven't gotten the news conferences, they have not gotten clarity on a lot of the flip-flops. let's start with the opportunity economy and her focus to bring down prices. we heard that in her interview. that's going to be her priority on day one. we have not heard her acknowledge how these prices got here. this prices ran up under the biden-harris administration, and most economists are in agreement that it was because of massive government spending. is she going to acknowledge what got us here, to describe how she

can fix the problem? >> sandra, she has mentioned how this is not just inflation, it is greedflation. companies exploited supply chain to jack up prices. this is calling out the scammers on the predators who are exploiting americans in order to line their pockets. so she's going to do everything she can -- >> sandra: those are illegal accusations, so i think you have to be really careful with that. when you accuse companies of price gouging, or in your words "jacking up prices," that is illegal activity in 40 states, the last i counted. we have not seen any illegal activity. so will that work on the debate stage with the american voters who are living through this inflation crisis? >> i think it will, because they are experiencing it every single day when they go to the grocery market. they see there's shrinkflation, that their dollar is not going as far as it used to. they're not getting as much food

or what have you as much as they used to. so they know. kamala harris knows very well that inflation hurts, but inflation has come down now under 3% and we also have to bear in mind that inflation is something that hit every single country on the face of the earth, and americans have come back stronger and more resilient than any other country. >> sandra: just be clear, and donald trump will be able to highlight this, inflation was at 1.4% when biden and harris took office. it then ran up to much higher than that, over 9%, and it is still almost double that today. while i have you here, how will she address some of these flip-flops? i know there's a lot of voters who are concerned about where she stands on some of these key issues like the border wall, like fracking. will she be able to clarify those issues and where she stands policywise? >> i think instead of focusing on why she has evolved, we have to ask why trump hasn't. why has he not changed his mind?

harris has been in power for three and half years now, and drilling under biden's higher than it ever was under trump. said during her time in office, she has learned and evolved based on the information she has received. >> sandra: that interesting. will she embrace fracking? and she did so in pennsylvania, and there were some skeptics who say maybe that was just to win over voters. will she on that message and follow through if she wins the white house? >> she is already starting to do that. she has embraced energy independence, realizing how important it is for national security, especially in this increasingly contentious world. we need to have very clear energy independence policy. she is also doing that on matters like u.s. steel. she has come out against the sale of u.s. steel to a japanese company in order to keep ourselves independent and strong. >> sandra: i appreciate everything you're saying, i'm just trying to move through all these topics with the time we

had. is it fair to say she is pro-fracking, kamala harris? >> i think she is pro-energy independence and doing whatever we can to make sure that our policies and our economy is not contingent on another country. >> sandra: really interesting. hope you come back. it's a first time we had on the program. we hope to have you back soon. >> thank you for inviting me. i appreciate it. >> sandra: will be watching the debate tonight. thanks. >> keep your window down. keep your window down, i'm going to get you out of out of the carpet as a matter of fact, get out of the car. get out of the car. get out of the car. get out. get out! >> john: new body cam video of the moment officers pulled tight weak hill out of his car during a traffic stop. what the video shows what both sides are saying today. that's just ahead.

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