half years several times. for her, i think the moderators, she should get the first question: why did you change your mind on so many policies and issues? >> thank you so much. >> thanks for having us. >> please stay with fox for a complete coverage of tonight's events. we have you covered throughout the night. look at the salina. former president trump will be a guest on "fox & friends" tomorrow morning, 640 eastern time. he will give you his thoughts about what happened. if you can't catch us live, set your dvr, 6:00 p.m. in the east, 3:00 p.m. on the west coast. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight and every night but especially tonight. this is "special report," fair, balanced, and unafraid. keep it on fox all night long. "the ingraham angle" -- >> good evening. big night. i'm laura ingraham. this is the intermingle from

new york city. in just two hours, the showdown everyone's been waiting for, freedom versus control. prosperity versus poverty. donald trump versus kamala harris. we are going to tell you everything you need to know heading into this debate including what traps kamala will set, how radical she really is, and what trump can do to come out on top. my angle in moments. first, alive to philadelphia where fox's aishah hasnie standing by. how do we know about what trump is preparing for tonight and how is he feeling? >> good evening. we know a lot from his campaign about how he's feeling in his strategy. i want to make a note to viewers of the former president has now landed in philadelphia. just got off his plane along with his son eric trump, daughter-in-law laura trump, as well as his campaign -- excuse me, his debate prep coach matt gaetz from florida

congressman. i've been told the former president is coming to this cool, calm, collected, and well read on vice president harris' record, especially going back to her san francisco d.a. days. that is the strategy tonight for the team and trump: forcing harris to own every biden domestic and foreign policy failure over the last four years, and she really layout her liberal record. ." tone, a campaign official told me he's just going to be himself. the question is will he make any personal attacks, especially as it was up against a minority woman tonight? he is down about 11 points amongst female voters in a recent "new york times" poll, so that is the question periods campaign says he will stick to the issues. >> of course he can and he will. these were the same false narratives that they had during the joe biden campaign: will donald trump not talked? will they just let joe biden

speak? the bar for kamala harris has been raised. the pressure is on her, because donald trump has conducted north of 35 interviews saying she has been the de facto nominee, and she has conducted exactly one. >> his other debate coach, tulsi gabbard, says trump will speak to female voters tonight on that debate staged by talking about what matters most to them. issues like climate safety, the economy, child care, housing. the campaign says he could recreate his june performance against president biden, that they will not this as a success. we are expecting a lot of trump sarah gets in the spin room tonight. it's getting a little busy here. tonight we are going to see running mate j.d. vance in here as well as rfk jr. who you know is telling his supporters to just vote for donald trump. >> thank you so much. now to fox's senior white house

correspondent who has been following kamala harris. i understand the harris team has some concern, is this right, about her height? what's going on? >> you did read that right. the vice president's team has been doing a couple things to position her well tonight. they got her a short podium sought 5'4", she looks even on the tv split screen with trump who is six with three. they also advocated to have the traveling chris poole positioned close enough to the candidates tonight so they can hear and report on whatever is not picked up on the mics. they are hoping trump goes off the rails, and they have been trying to get under his skin with billboards, ads, and even former trump administration officials working as their surrogates in the spin room to try to make that happen. beyond the mind games, harris is focused on how to handle trump tonight. she's meeting him for the first time. he has an edge over her in

debate reps. it's his seventh general election presidential debate, her first. paris consulted with transformer opponents joe biden and hillary clinton for pointers on how to get that done she has also spent much of the last five days studying terms past debates debates, his positions, his comments, both in interviews and social media so she can put on her prosecutor hand and try to put him on trial, but we haven't heard anything about how she is going to ask when her policy shifts, except this new messaging downplaying the idea that she was ever absolute in her views. >> in the senate, she was a pragmatist pick one of the things i admired about her the most was her willingness to cross the aisle. >> she is pragmatic. escort who she is. >> harris' campaign says her views were shaped by three years governing up joe biden's side, but after harris set herself her values have not changed, there are questions about the distance between what she is running on now, much of it reportedly ripped directly from joe biden's

campaign website, and what she truly believes and if she has a layout tonight. >> thank you so much. >> the vice president will be calm, cool, and collected. i think she's going to do great. i won't tell you what advice i gave. >> oh please. i hope kamala harris follows all of the advice joe biden and all of his debate success gave her. she's got no record to run on. she flip-flops on every position, from plastic straws to fracking. she is terrible and unscripted moments. the bar is low for her, but that's maybe why she is resorting to stunts before the debate. she is bringing two obscure former trump administration officials to the debate as for special guests. anthony scaramucci who lasted ten days before he was canned, and someone named olivia troy, a

former aide to vice president pence who i just became an msnbc fixture. i don't know who she is and i know most of the people from this administration. this is silliness. how many americans know who these people are if they don't watch "dancing with the stars"? joining us now, missouri senator eric schmidt. this is their idea. republicans -- a big piece. >> harris sticks it to trump by inviting former officials. and i'm thinking, sticking it to trump his inviting them to the debate? that's it? >> it's precept, although the one interview she's done i guess she had tim walz by her side. she's got to step up. the bar is high because she is unavailable and on accessible. i think it's interesting. she says her values haven't changed. what are her values? she supported reparations, defunding the police, defunding ice, supports taxpayer-funded

sex change for illegal immigrants. those are california values i guess that i think most of america is going to reject. all that will be on display here tonight. >> one thing that's clear is that this turning the page moment is a little difficult when you have to turn the page on your own administration if they are asked if you agree with each other on anything, trump should say "i agree with kamala harris that we need to turn the page from the bid biden/harris administration, except she's not the one to do it." that's a very odd mantle to try to grasp when you are, in essence, the incumbent. >> that's right. she has at three and a half years to distinguish yourself. of course she hasn't picked what she did do when she was in the senate, she was the most liberal senator, to the left of bernie sanders. that's a fact. she was a tie-breaking vote for the inflation reduction act and the american recovery act that pumped $1.34 trillion in.

she's for the mandate, for the green new deal, for declaring war on domestic energy production. you put those things into place, there is a reason why and that most recent "new york times" poll president trump by a two to make one margin is viewed as the change agents, the disruptor, in an election cycle where people want change. i think you have a position heading into this debate. >> this liberal writer wrote that kamala has to cut ties with joe biden, saying she should directly repudiate popular biden positions. no role required her to own a reaction biden has taken. she could say she disagrees with him now that she is running for his job, she can advocate her own ideas and biden -- the whole liability for harris. is not wise? part is that just come across as desperate? >> desperate and flip-flopping. i think as people want to learn more about her, she's got a real

problem here. on the two issues that matter most to people: inflation, what is costing them -- i mention those votes in the senate, the tie-breaking votes on the american recovery act and inflation reduction act which caused inflation, but also the border has been a disaster. 10 million people here illegally. it's a national security risk. sentinel flooding into our communities. she was the border czar. she was celebrated a someone who is going to take this on. she can't run away from a problem that she herself helped create. >> she was the cosponsor of the green new deal. >> yes. >> and strained wind turbines will be built up and down the eastern seaboard disrupting marine life, probably killing a lot of whales, and huge boondoggles for those businesses involved, she will stand up and applaud. nothing against wind power, but when we have cheap natural gas and an abundance of fossil fuels, why are they doing that? they get a lot of government

funds to do that. >> when she had to run for president, she was exposed again as a pretty radical california liberal. she didn't even make it to iowa. the democrats didn't really accept her even though she ran directly left. they are putting her in this spot 50 days out trixie will try to recast herself. the problem is the tale of the tape exists. >> senator, great to see you as always. thank you. what to watch for tonight? the traps to avoid the opportunities to seize. my ankle and advice to former president trump, coming up next. i try to put my arm around any vet that i can. absolutely. at newday usa, that's what we're doing. we put our arm around the veterans. when i think of the veteran out there that needs to refi his home, he may want to purchase and we can help them and provide

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>> vibes and jives is the focus of tonight's speed's "angle." tonight as suspected, it is clear that kamala harris intends to stress personality and personal jabs over policy and substance. since pelosi forced biden out of the race, this has been a democrat's strategy. >> if it ends up being a debate purely on him being able to say "he wrecked the economy and border," that's not a win for her. it has to be about him behaving badly. >> she needs to be joyful, energetic. she needs to be -- because this

is showbiz. this is not a policy debate: it's all showbiz. >> that's very respectful of women and their intelligence. they have all but conceded that they can't win on their merits, which is why most of the time, kamala sounds more like she is auditioning for the food network rather than for the white house. in the first three years of thee trump administration, real median household income is measured in $2023 rose $7,690, 10.5%. in the first three years of biden/harris, incomes only rose $1,050, 1.3%. the amount of increase in transfers three years is over seven times greater than in the bidens first three years. you won't hear numbers from kamala harris tonight, that's my production, or very few. numbers aren't her friend. this is why she doesn't want to

talk about the economy or how to fix this mess. everyone knows for the most part they feel poorer. last year, the median household income was lower than it was in 2019. only in kamala world would not qualify as some type of progress. the harvard/harris poll that i referenced last night that was just released shows the ugly reality and the crosstabs. one section is titled "perceptions toward the economy remain pessimistic." 63% think we are on the wrong track, 62% say it is weak. 48% say that their financial situation is just getting worse. well, obviously. there is no debating the fact that on this most important point to american voters, president trump has a far better case. in response, aldi vice president can do do is showcase her tough girl tude, throw mud, and repeat

lies about donald trump. stuff about january 6th, charlottesville. tonight is the night for donald trump to remind people that it doesn't have to be this way anymore, and thinking about this, it's not that difficult. just tell the voters that we do not have to live with all of this failure. we can have prosperity. we can have peace again. his team and he did it once before. they can do it again. she is going to try to deflect from her record and extreme views. trump just needs to keep redirecting that conversation and returning to the issues that matter most to people. don't get sidetracked. tonight you are likely going to hear her claim the mantle of sacrifice. and accused trump, and she did during the dnc of being self-centered. this is more nonsense. just ignore it if you are trump. it got me thinking: what personal sacrifice has kamala harris -- for the

country? she was put on a glide path to her positions in california as attorney general by a powerful political figure: willie brown. after a horrid primary in 2019, she was made vp. after three lousy years as vice president, she was handed the democrat nomination without a primary after a coup against joe biden. i have covered politics for decades, yeah, decades. i have never, and i mean never, seen any candidate fight harder and sacrifice more personally than donald trump has done, for the privilege of serving the american people. now, when he started in politics, president trump vowed to expose and drain the swamp. the establishment didn't like that at all. and for that, he incurred the wrath of the deep state, corrupt

judges, and the professional political class. before he was nearly assassinated, they surveilled him, concocting the phony russian narratives, damaged his business interests, harassed his family, his friends, put some of them in jail. constant law fare, and they are still hoping to put him in jail. that is what he sacrificed. they did this to him because he believes in one thing. it's not -- waiting about it for the last nine years. that this government is supposed to be of, by, and for the people. it should not be run into a ditch or a rivian or off a cliff by a cabal of people, the same people who displaced joe biden. many of them are unelected, by the way, who don't care what the voters want. kamala's team is so checked out a policy that when they finally decide to put policies on her website, they are caught lifting entire sections of the metadata of biden's policies from his

website and placing them on hers. what, did they give it to an intern? in the coding it said "support joe biden." got to switch that out really fast. my final piece of advice: donald trump should do something he didn't do in the last debate. two things really. shake kamala harris' hand, call her vice president harris or my opponent. i would call her kamala or a log name. to that end ask americans watching for their votes. asked for their votes. it's a great blessing and privilege to be president and run for the presidency, so why not say so? i know he thinks that. and make it by giving everyone hope that together, we are going to turn this around. by the way, turning around is going to be fun. we are going to have a fun time doing it. thinking about this and the importance of tonight, and what's going to happen on election day, this could be the greatest political comeback of all time, both for trump and for

the country. that's "the angle." coming up, we thought we knew just how extreme kamala was, but a new document reveals it is so much worse. that's next.

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legal just over 90 minutes from tonight's debate. one of the major issues that should come up and will come up, if donald trump has anything to say about it, is illegal immigration, and the havoc it has wreaked upon america. >> not only was kayla's life put at risk and taken: so many other children and adults were at risk. the biden/harris administration is not putting the american citizens safety first. speak of the horrors my daughter suffered. it's because of these open borders. >> they are nothing but monsters

who are predators, and those are the individuals that we so openly let in this country. i believe the biden/harris administration open border policies are responsible for the death of my daughter. >> kamala harris is supposed to be for women and girls. she is the only one that can fight for them, but those mothers will never be able to hug their daughters again. it's because of kamala's pro-illegal alien agenda. an unearthed document is laying bare the full extent of her open borders extremism. last night we told you about that 2019 aclu questionnaire revealing that kamala supported taxpayer-funded sex change surgeries for migrants. claiming it's a "medical necessity." amnesty back then -- it was 11 million illegals but it's double that now -- kamala answered yes. she says she would do it through executive action. should get rid of ice detainers.

another yes. she doesn't want any enforcement of the border. if that was not enough, for more illegal supercross, she answered yes to another question: "will you support the decriminalization at the federal level of all drug possession for personal use?" yes she did. that's great news for the smugglers, funneling everything from marijuana to fentanyl and to our country. what about the victims? >> elicits fentanyl came over the open borders illegally that killed my son pickett didn't give him the chance to learn from his mistake. joe biden, kamala harris, every democrat who supports these open border policies are complicit in the deaths of 300,000 innocent americans, including my son periods because she is going to join us tomorrow night, whose son passed away because a fentanyl. joining us now judge jeanine pirro, cohost of "the five." it's great to see you.

great to be on instagram live with you a few minutes ago. kamala harris hold yourself out as a champion of woman. she is the only candidate, she said, who could stand up for the fundamental freedoms of women. what about the fundamental freeman not to be raped, assaulted, have your child poisoned by fentanyl? >> or have your child traffic. under the biden administration of 300,000 kids are lost. you can bet your bottom dollar that those kids are involved in sex trafficking or child labor. they have lost these kids. every mother you just heard from is suffering a pain that will last forever. kamala harris is not a real prosecutor. she doesn't care about these people. if she were real prosecutor, sheet -- lies to her about that she would be fighting for the underdog, for the victims. instead she ignores them. she doesn't even mention their names. this is a sad commentary. more and more of them are allowed to this country. they are undivided.

we are now flying them in. we don't even know who they are and they are killing people. >> on avenue of the americas, a couple blocks on the way to the studio, two mothers, two little ones on the street. obviously it did not look like they were very proficient in english. where they migrants? i don't know. i have not seen many scenes like that. just five years ago. not many. speak of the city is crowded like that. there is a whole different aura in new york city. you have all these problems. kamala harris wants to make 11 million of them, wants to give them amnesty. >> it will change the country. >> it will change the country forever. >> she believes it's against the law to close the border appeared she wants all drugs to be decriminalized. she promised in 2019, not that long ago, i think it was 250,000 people -- out of jail. she made that promise. >> that's why trump is strong

when he stands on the drug issue. there is that initiative in florida to legalize personal possession of marijuana. i think the soros people are pouring in $100 million -- you know someone will make big money on this. a lot of kids will get termed bipolar and schizophrenic on the high thc pot. trump came out in favor of that. i don't know if that was a policy mistake. that shouldn't be. he is good on that issue, and ron desantis and the moms in the florida don't want to smear- don't want this marijuana legalized. >> there's medical marijuana and a lot of gray areas. he cares about those mothers, cares about the victims. he wants to stop this. she could care less. she can't even articulate their names. this is the america she wants. san francisco policies in the united states. there is no hope for us with her. >> if a country becomes california -- i'm not talking but the beauty of california.

i'm talking oakland, san francisco, a lot of l.a., the crime, and even in beautiful san diego. it has changed. i'm a member of the california bar. i thought i would live out there. i love california. >> you can't. it's a different state. it's not safe anymore. everybody thinks, like she does, they want to eliminate ice, they want health care for illegals. what is she going to say tonight? "i got smarter in three years." no, she will go after donald trump. >> donald trump is mean. >> you don't care about murders and donald trump is mean. >> i think the poking and prodding which they have telegraphed four weeks, because she cannot defend her record. if you asked kamala harris "x plane how gdp is calculated." "how do they determine when a recession is in play?" three consecutive quarters. >> what is fracking? what exactly is it? >> how do you crack the rock? come help me out. >> this is a woman who --

>> she doesn't care about policy. >> three and half years. if we were vice president, we would be fighting for every issue we cared about. the power this woman has, and she blew it. she's not interested. she's lazy. >> they knew that she was ineffective. they understood she was an effective. they had pretty much written her off, but then they realized they couldn't conceal biden's incompetence any longer, and that speaks volumes about kamala harris as well. she knew what was going on in the white house. she knows what's going on right now. >> she covered it all up. she benefited. she didn't get a delegate, she got all her money. she even plagiarized his campaign platform. he plagiarized it and then she plagiarized it. they are a team. >> does someone have an intern flipping the copy? i guess you cannot copy and paste what joe biden has on his website. >> why is she so afraid to talk? why does she not want to talk to

people? seven weeks went by where she said nothing. >> have you ever heard her talk? >> it's not -- >> it is not 3d chess when she speaks. [laughter] it's bad for them at. judge, we -- >> we are switching. >> good to see. >> i had kamala's policies on full display in the city where the debate is tonight.

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♪ ♪ >> kamala harris and donald trump are meeting in philadelphia tonight for the first time, a city in many ways that is ground zero for the failures of the democratic establishment in urban america. we have seen an explosion of drugs, migrants, crime. look at the scenes from the c city. that's what biden/harris policies encourage. >> it's amazing and, school and -- they don't come home from school. >> emily johnson is numb over the murder of her son, 16-year-old caleb johnson, after which she says his killers taunted her and bragged about it in music they made. >> this one took nine people off the street. >> you can expect to hear more

of that if harris is elected. joining me now is selena zito, pennsylvania-based journalist and columnist for the "washington examiner." the people of philly in other urban areas have suffered under democrats for far too long. they keep voting for democrats, however, but this time, you get a sense that things may be shifting in certain demographic groups because of the tenacity with which this inflationary trend has held onto, especially blue cities. tell us what you know. >> it makes me sad. philadelphia is a beautiful city, the center of the beginning of our government. the liberty bell is there. it's where our constitution was signed. the crime rate has been escalating ever since the beginning of covid and also with the george floyd protests. with that has also come in a real sharp spike in fentanyl overdoses.

it used to be that it was appalachian pennsylvania where fentanyl led in overdoses. that has now shifted to philadelphia. my last visit to philadelphia unnerved me. i was driving right past this city building. i was surrounded by a group of bikers who just circled me several times. it felt like hours. it was probably 2 minutes, but it was an unnerving experience. you just have to think about the people who live in the city, who can't move out of the city, who can't get into the suburbs, that can't afford it, and they are forced to reckon with this every day, and they are forced for their children to have to experience this every day on their way to school. >> i am also looking at these polls. very interesting. it's all tied up. this morning counseled poll that just came out, the new one that

just came out. a pretty highly respected poll of likely voters. dead heat. you heard the mayor earlier on cnn today, the mayor of philadelphia. big liberal, big supporter of kamala harris. she said everyone is having a party in philly, or their parties all over the neighborhoods and people have, and are excited, but more republicans are being registered in the state of pennsylvania than democrats. is that correct? >> that is true. the republicans have done a robust registering of new voters. interestingly enough, last october, democratic governor josh shapiro instituted an ability that when you sign up for your driver's license, register for your driver's license, you can also register to vote. within ten days, 55,000 new republicans have registered. the republicans in this statehouse were complaining that this is terrible.

they didn't recognize that republicans get drivers licenses, and want to vote. it was significant. >> probably worried about illegal immigrants somehow getting registered and voting. that number of republican registrations could tell the tale of. i know it we will get back to later in the week about erie, pennsylvania. interesting things happening. thank you very much. let's go to the spin room where arkansas senator tom cotton is a surrogate for donald trump tonight. senator, have you spoken to him today, and how is he feeling? >> good to be with you from philadelphia. i spoke to president trump a few hours ago. he was feeling great. is looking forward to tonight's debate, to exposing kamala harris' record is a dangerous san francisco liberal. since she became the presidential nominee, she's only had one interview where she had her emotional support vice presidential nominee with

her. she has not answered questions about her radical positions in the past. we saw another one surface yesterday. she wants to use taxpayer dollars to pay for gender transition surgery for illegal aliens held in detention, if you can believe it's. in addition to decriminalizing all drugs. we have known kamala harris is a san francisco liberal from the very beginning. she is not flip-flopping, not moderating. she is lying to the american people trying to get through this election. president trump will expose those lies tonight. >> interesting points in the recent polls that came out, topics we don't necessarily discuss that much because they are not in the top three of concern for voters. the point about americans tonight still being held in gaza. what has kamala harris done as vice president to gain their release except around the edges, at the very least, make it more difficult for israel to prosecute its campaign and were

against gaza until they release those hostages? we have americans in harm's way right now there. >> we do. she has made it harder, as you say, to get these hostages. she and joe biden have put more pressure on israel at every turn than they have on hamas and its patrons in iran, rather than trying to restrain israel we should have let israel win from the very beginning. not only will this war be over but the hostages would have been rescued or released by now. what we need to do is back israel to a hilt, make it clear to hamas that we want our hostages back and if we don't get them back, there's going to be hel l to play. donald trump made that clear to our enemies in the past. >> weakness, a lack of strength and resolve breeds travel around the world for america. great to see you as always. what to expect during tonight's big showdown, next.

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>> just over one hour away from kamala harris and donald trump facing off for the first time in a debate. joining us, our all-star panel. "washington times" opinion editor -- both fox news contributor's. also with me at lee zeldin, former new york congressman. your prediction tonight. >> i think if she comes out and does anything other than fall down and throw up on herself, everybody will say she had a great night. i think they have succeeded at lowering the expectations for her. the problem for her is going to be that whatever she says, because she refuses to do interviews, refuses to state her current position on anything. whatever it is that she says is going to make enough news that people can compare what she is saying tonight to everything she's ever said on all these issues in the past, and it's going to conflict, and it's going to be a turnaround, and she's not going to explain why she is flip-flopping.

i think even if she succeeds at not screwing up really badly, that's going to hurt her in the long run. >> i agree. i think if we can predict anything it will be that whatever happens, the media will declare kamala harris the triumphant winner after tonight's debate. >> she comes in at a huge disadvantage. the woman has not done a debate in four years and has really only done one. picking up on what charlie said that, when you don't talk to the media, when you only give addresses off a teleprompter, you diminish your comfort in front of a crowd, and your ability to convey and communicate your agenda clearly and to that undecided block. this is about suburban women, the african american votes, hispanic voters. the people who are still deciding which way to go. most of this electorate has decided. for kamala harris, this is like being booked at madison square garden having never played a bar or a small

theater. this is a rough stage for her. donald trump meanwhile is the master at this. he knows where every camera angle is. he uses his face, his body. watch the difference tonight. if he controls himself and conveys his message, i think he will walk away with this. >> trump will be on "fox & friends" tomorrow morning to follow-up on what happens tonight. even >> the real question tonight is can kamala harris seize this opportunity, seize the spotlight, put to rest fears that they may have about her, because the bottom line is undecided voters made up their mind about donald trump, waiting to make up their mind about kamala harris, and how they do so can make all the difference in the world come november. >> lee she's apparently going to turn the page from her own deterioration and talk about how she, after three years of being on the scene, is the change agent we've been waiting for. >> and he can't do it, because she's the one who flew air force

2 to get to this debate. she's the sitting vice-president, the biden harris agenda, and she can't run away from that. i think this is, as raymond pointed to, a battle for that undied vote, and everyone should go back and listen to that angle of yours from the top of today's show. ultimately, there are people tuning in who haven't made up their minds, care about the economy, our border, crime, energy policy, foreign policy, on the issues, president trump is on the right side of, and he should outline the contrast, define kamala harris for who he is, who himself for who he is, and hit those issues hard. >> charlie, another point i've heard raised, not a bad one, some women may be out there some undecided, they want one reason, maybe one more reason to reconsider what they think about donald trump, they like his policies, maybe not him so much, maybe a moment of reflection or humility on the pap part of trump, not really his style, but that could be a powerful close for him, it's a great privilege

and a blessing to have been your president, and i would like to earn your vote once again. something along those lines. >> yeah, i think that would be wise, and ill not be surprised if we didn't actually hear something like that, but, the problem for donald trump, and you and i have talked about this a lot, the problem for donald trump, is he has to do the work of the media, because the media doesn't hold any opponents accountable for anything, and an important point you made at the top of the show, talking about how she is going to try to do a retread of this thing, about selfless sacrifice, that she has devoted her life to, and it's important for -- and if donald trump has to point it out, he would be the one to point it out, and that's fine, but the idea she's devoted her entire life to getting herself elected, saying whatever she has to say to whoever she has to say in order to get elected, that's not selfless sacrifice, that's feathering your own nest, the most selfish thing you can

possibly do, but i'm afraid the media is not going to point that out about her, and it will be left to donald trump, and you have to kind of be kind of a jerk to do that. >> yeah, well, they'll fact check him, probably, but not so much her. and one of the arguments, raymond, they're making and we don't have to play the sound byte, but her change on these fundamental issues, it's just part of her natural evolution, do women and men buy that, who are on the fence? >> i rather doubt it, laura, but people who are focusing now, the frightening thing for all of us, 75 days away from an election, but early voting starts in days, laura, that's the frightening thing, so a lot of people will be watching and tuning in for the first time, to these two contenders and some of them will be making their decision, for kamala harris, though, the new york times, ran apiece, talking to some of her surrogates, saying she's not following the clinton plan, which was paint donald trump as a racist and a

misogynist. >> that didn't work. >> but i don't believe that for a second, laura, otherwise she's left defending the biden record, and giving her braised chicken recipe, she's not going to do that, trump is saying we've been hearing this for year, they're coming after mere, and after you, i'm still here fighting for you. >> i think, lee, especially women, like to hear about home, and homeland, those words are powerful for moms, and for daughters. homeland, home, safety, security, and it's going to be okay. i think the country wants to be reassured tonight that things are going to get better, less chaotic, trump worked with so many democrats over his career and i think they like to hear that, it gives people a sense of calm. >> our nation is at a cross roast, we know how bad it would be if kamala harris is president for four years, and talking

about donald trump, talking about that positive up lifting vision for america if he has the opportunity to serve for four more years. >> 56 days out of this election, my friends. this has been a wild wide. do you agree, charlie, very quickly, that the media, no matter what happens, declares kamala harris the presumptive winner of the debate? >> without a doubt, but luckily, i think a lot of independent voters aren't listening to the media anymore. >> they've hurt their credibility. raymond, charlie and lee, all of you, thank you so much. that's it for all of us tonight. however, i'll be back for the coverage of the debate, i'll be on the panel, you can watch the entire showdown here on fox, so stay with us, all night long, you'll see coverage here you won't see anywhere else, remember, it's america, now and forever, jesse watters takes this from here, see you soon. [ ♪♪ ]