was happening. there are some kids trying to get to school and streets were blocked off and having to take detours and you look at these individuals that are reading the names now and they are so young. it just reminds us that some people were not alive and to hear that you can go onto t2t.org to get materials to teach our children. what is your advice there? >> it is our jobs, parents and grand parents. frank is doing his job. what are you doing at your household and community and school level and church to remind the kids and grandkids freedom is not free and has to be defended? a day like today is a perfect day to start doing it. >> steve: "america's newsroom" comes up next. >> he is within my mom, my uncle and my grandma. within my sister and little cousins and i know there are parts of him within me and i know he is with me and my family

and every step that we take. >> bill: it is that day again. september 11th, '23 years ago today america came under attack in our lives and our country changed forever. to this day it changed forever. that's a live look ground 0 lower manhattan. the families remembering the names of those killed in the deadliest terror attack in american history. it is important for us to share this day with you at home and it is very important to share this day with you, partner. >> dana: always an honor. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer live in new york city. we'll watch it together. >> dana: i'm dana perino and this is "america's newsroom." down there right now president biden, vice president harris, former president trump and vice presidential nominee d.j. vance are all in attendance. one of several ceremonies for biden and harris. they'll later head to shanksville, pennsylvania and also attend a ceremony at the

pentagon. >> bill: there will be several moments of silence coming up in the next 90 minutes. we'll get to one in a moment at 9:03 when flight 175 struck the south tower. a solemn day indeed to say the least. the attacks marking a turning point for u.s. foreign policy and the anniversary coming at a time when america's enemies are on the move again. we'll observe ceremonies in new york city, at the pentagon and washington, d.c. and shanksville, pennsylvania. our colleague and friend karl rove is with us riding shotgun for the first part of our program as well. karl, good morning to you. when that young man said and my grandfather, it shows us how far we are moving away from the moment of time 23 years ago. >> yeah, i teach at the university of texas as austin. none of my students were alive at the time of 9/11. it is a reminder that we need to

-- this needs to be a moment of national consciousness just like the attack on pearl harbor was. there are other moments in our history as well. this one needs to be remembered because the threat is still there. our enemies still want to hurt us. we should not be surprised that they will perhaps attempt something this fall. and i'm deeply moved every year by the families who read the names of a lost loved one. you are right. right now. that young woman was not alive when her father or grandfather died. >> bill: all she has are stories from her family and their friends. let's pause a moment here as we mark the moment at 9:03:00 a.m. and flight 175 hitting the south tower. (moment of silence] [bell ringing]

>> and my grandfather, james j. coeur began. we love you and miss you so much. me and my three sisters wish we got to meet you. >> gary eugene berg. >> joshua david burn balm.

>> george john bishop. >> jeffrey donald bittner. >> albert lockman senior. >> christopher joseph blackwell. >> susan blair. >> harry blanding junior. >> janice lee blaney. >> craig michael blots. >> rita blast. >> richard middleton blood junior. >> michael andrew back aridy. >> michael l.bokeno. >> bruce douglas boan. >> mary kathryn murphy. >> nicklaus andrew. >> darren christopher bojan.

>> lawrence france is. >> vincent m. >> dana: it is a tradition that gives me a feeling of great patriotism and honor to watch how these new york does this ceremony every year and so well. another one happening in shanksville and the pentagon. karl, remind us of that day for you that morning. >> it began at 8:48 a.m. standing outside a school in florida when my phone rang and assistant said a plane has flown into the world trade center. we don't know if it's jet or prop, private or commercial. i walked over to the president, who was 10 feet away or so shaking hands outside the elementary school ready to go inside for a reading demonstration and told him. he sort of raised an eyebrow, like get more. two minutes later, three minutes later condy rice called in with the same sketchy information and

we walked into the school. it struck me it was 15 minutes from the time i got that call from susan to the time that we had just turned on a television. we had difficulty getting the television on. we just turned on a television. when it came on made a contact as we screwed it into a wall, it made a pop and went -- and then a voice said what have we just seen? it was flight 175 hitting the south tower. so i spent that day with the president and you remember every moment. and when he walked into the reading demonstration, he was one person. when he came back into the -- after being informed about the second attack, he came back in a changed man. i've known him a long time. he was a different person. he walked back in and in a very quiet voice but filled with

steel he said we're at war. give me the director of the f.b.i. and the vice president. we jumped on the secure phones in the hold room wherever a president travels, these devices are nearby. we got ahold of the f.b.i. director who started on the job ten days before, robert mueller. we couldn't get to the vice president of the united states. at the moment we were attempting to call him, two secret service agents had burst into his west wing office. grabbed him under the armpits and running down a hallway in the west wing to the secret entrance to the president's emergency operations center, the bunker under the white house. they figured out flight 77 was going over the national mall trying to find a way around the washington monument in order to strike the white house. eventually couldn't find his way around and instead struck the pentagon. >> bill: there were many events, not just that day, but in the preceding days and weeks and months and years to come.

i want to play a moment from 9/11 was a tuesday. 9/14 was a friday. president bush comes to new york, goes down to what they consider the pile at the time and grabs a firefighters from queens to help him out with this moment. >> i can hear you. [cheers and applause] i can hear you, the rest of the world hears you, and the people -- [cheers and applause] and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon. [cheers and applause] >> bill: bob beck with just died

february 4, 2024. >> this past weekend before they dedicated the street in his neighborhood after him. that's a total accident. white house advance person, we were coming into the pile, coming -- driving from the north to the south, a short small mother cade, only three or four vehicles, s.u.v.s and we drove down this rubble-laden road. on either side of the road there were giant piles of debris. on them were these rescue workers and iron workers and they were going like this. you couldn't hear them in the vehicle but going like this and when we opened the door you got hit by a wall of sound. chirp chanting usa, usa. and i got out of the vehicle, walked to the front of the vehicle. the president's vehicle had just made a slight turn to the right and i looked to my left and there was the cardinal of new york and the religious

leadership of new york in their religious garb and chanting usa many openly weeping. i felt a dug on my back. a white house advance person who said they want to hear from the president. she had brought up that suggestion the night before and they said no, we aren't going to have him speak when he is at the pile. she thought differently. she wanted to find a sucker who would agree with her and i did. so before i went to talk to andy card about it, i knew that he would say where could he speak from? i noticed in front of me there was this giant fire truck that had debris that had fallen on top of it and blown out the tires. the tires looked like they were shredded balloons and three guys stood on top of it. a young guy and an old guy. i went over to him and said is this thing stable? they were looking at the guy in the suit and tie like what are you doing? i said jump up and down and they

reluctantly jumped up or down and it looked like it was stable enough. on the wheel covering in front of me a piece of brick or masonry jiggled a little bit. i went to move it. don't move it. there may be a body part underneath. the young guy jumps off the back of the truck. i go to andy card and say they want to hear from the president. he said you're right. they need to hear from him. i said we can do ill over there. do you have a sound system? nina bishop had gone to get a bull horn. so he went over to talk to the president. the president immediately agreed. latino jumps off the back of the truck. one guy on the truck looking around not paying attention. some guy says give me a hand. pulls him up. gets to him and real its as it is the president of the united

states. he freaks out. notice the president had his armed draped around him. bob was so nervous he was going to jump off the truck. the rest happens. the president doesn't know what a bull horn is all about. so he is messing around with it. people started yelling george, we can't hear you. i met the guy who claims to be the guy who said george, we can't hear you, a big, tall guy. the rest is history. it shows how in the moment you either have it or you don't. >> bill: that moment was made. >> that moment was made. >> thank you, karl. >> dana: great to have you. thank you for the remembrances. we have more of those to come. an emotional day in new york city and washington, d.c. the september 11th terror attacks altered the course of our country in countless ways. there are more moments still to come recognized by silence as families pay tribute to the memory of the victims of that day 23 years ago today. >> you were a role model to me and your kindness inspires me and the rest of our family to be

the best people that we can be. [applause] >> richard michael.

>> we miss you every day and hope you are having a blast up there with dad and grandma and the rest of the family. of course, god bless america. [applause] >> bill: the numbers are extraordinary as we look at some of the dignitaries and politicians who have gathered after a big night last night that we'll talk about in a moment here. but the names and the numbers will go on for hours, dana. there were 343 members of the new york fire department killed

in the line of duty that day. there were 71 cops who died at the world trade center that day. and we give tribute to all of them on this day, september 11th. as you just saw in that picture there, that was quite extraordinary, was it not? you have the vice president, kamala harris, the current president joe biden. former president donald trump, the former mayor, michael bloomberg, the former mayor rudy giuliani commemorating the attacks of 9/11. last night on the stage america can judge for themselves. turn to peter doocy on the north lawn at the white house there. good morning. >> good morning, bill. and in a statement today, paper statement vice president harris at ground 0 now is saluting barack obama for ordering the operation that killed bin laden and president biden for order the strike that killed bin

laden's number two. the vice president will visit all three locations of the terrorist attack 23 years ago. she is at ground 0, then to shanksville, pennsylvania and arlington for a wreath laying. she arrived in new york after midnight. went from the debate hall as her team is hitting the airwaves saying she would like another meeting with donald trump. >> i think that the vice president is open to a debate in october. at the end of the day, after that performance last night donald trump team does not want him to debate kamala harris again. >> donald trump did not commit to a second debate. in a "fox & friends" interview today he is upset he thinks was an unfair night of uneven lopsided fact checking where both moderators took turns fact checking her and not fact checking the vice president when she said things like this. >> what did the president then at the time say?

there were fine people on each side. the candidate had said in this election there will be a bloodbath if this and the outcome of this election is not to his liking. the detailed and dangerous plan called project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing. >> both candidates are going to commemorate today's anniversary instead of campaign. tomorrow they will each visit states they are hoping to flip. trump will be in arizona. harris will be in north carolina. at some point this morning the two of them did shake hands kind of across president biden who was standing there in the front row at the ground 0 ceremony. we don't know exactly what words were exchanged but we will probably find out quickly after the ceremony is done. >> bill: we are looking at the video now. peter, hang with me one moment. abc missed a fact check on project 2025. it was my recollection that jen

o'malley running kamala harris's campaign threw out the invitation to the second debate before this debate began last night. is that the timeline that you saw? >> it does seem like that, yes. and again the harris team. i keep wanting to say the biden team. the harris team would like to agree to a date and a time and a network. none of that is agreed to. donald trump is saying his opinion is that harris just wants another debate because she lost and he compared it to a boxing match where the losing boxer suddenly wants a rematch. but the harris team just says, they think that she was the victor and like another opportunity to face off with donald trump. >> bill: we can always do it on fox. come on down, right? we'll be fair.

thank you, peter, nice to see you. >> dana: trey gowdy joins us now. before we talk about your debate analysis thought i would get your reflections of september 11th. >> it changed everything from the way we travel, sporting events, this facade of invincibility that we have as a country was shattered. the only silver lining in the after math of 9/11 was national unity, which has long since dissipated. so we're left with all the negative consequences of 9/11 and the unity that we once enjoyed is gone. >> dana: there is also the question about september 10th thinking, which is not having enough imagination for what very patient terrorists would want to do to us and other western civilization. on that, let's get your overall thoughts about the debate. we just saw that harris and trump shook hands today. i think it was quite a moment for america to show again and

again we can have political disagreements but on important days and important moments, the two people who want to be commander-in-chief after this term of bidens ends can have a nice moment at the 9/11 memorial. >> that is what makes us different. it is a beautiful thing to see. members of congress will also come together today. but it is today only. then they will go back to fighting and my fear is that those fleeting moments of unity don't even last a 24 hour news cycle. in terms of last night, i know the president listed several people that he had fired during his administration. he may want to add to that the people that prepped him for the debate last night. it was the land of missed opportunities. yes, i get that the abc moderators fact checked him and not her. i got a news flash for all republicans. he is not the first republican candidate to run into a media headwind. in fact, every single republican

presidential candidate has run into a media headwind. it is their question but it is your answer. if you are talking about dogs and cats. right now, dana, you hear the power of calling the names of victims. it is incredible to personalize the victim. did you hear president trump call the name of a single person assaulted or raped or murdered by that, i heard about cats and dogs in ohio -- how about the afghan kids droned? do you hear them brought up? any names. it was the land of missed opportunities to me last night. >> bill: would you do another one, trey? >> he better. and he better get a brand-new debate prep team. the goal is to get under her skin. so talk about crowd size

rallies, talk about your wealth. anybody who has spent a week-in-law school knows how to cross-examine someone. the key is to not take the bait. when you get a question about the border or abortion and you are talking about student loans, bill, she voted against banning partial birth abortion. that's an extreme position. she says she is in favor of roe v. wade. roe v. wade does not allow partial birth abortions. so look, the moderators didn't fact check her. there is no reason he can't do it. but to do it you have to know the facts. and you have to be prepared. and what i saw last night was an initially prepared candidate with a good closing argument but by that time the jury had already made up its mind. i just think it was a land of missed opportunities. whoever prepped him for debate shouldn't be part of the second debate.

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>> kevin dennis. >> bill: thomas francis dennis senior. >> bill: you see the pentagon. a ceremony underway. we'll dip in there for a moment. another moment of silence coming up in five minutes when flight 77 hit the pentagon. the 23rd anniversary of 9/11 coming as national security officials warn the u.s. once again faces a heightened terror threat. there is a number of incidents from this past year alone to talk about. joey jones fought, served and sacrificed for our country and is with us now. thank you for your time. >> dana: honor to have you. >> bill: before we get to what's happening, just when you wake up on a day like this for you, do you look forward to it, do you dread it, or is it somewhere in between? what's it for you? >> you know, the other 364 days a year i'm fairly benevolent

about the fact we fought 20 years of a war, did everything we could to avenge what happened and make sure it didn't happen again and move forward. i wake up this morning. drop off my kids at school. my son was born two days after it. he is how old i was when it happened. i dropped him off for sophomore year of high school and i can't help but think what happened on 9/11 changed the trajectory of my life forever. the fate of my life was sealed on this day of my son's life. it drilled it home for me how definitive that day was for an entire generation of americans who came of age in the next few years after that. on a morning like this morning i sit and listen to the recordings and the calls from the planes to the faa and the reporting that was happening and -- i get so angry. however many terrorists were killed we didn't kill enough of

them is the emotion that comes through. i would have given my life to kill another ten of them. that's how i feel in that moment and throughout the day i have to remind myself what's important is to survive this and be there for everyone else that survived it. >> dana: we're watching the pentagon as they gather there to mark the attack -- the plane that went into the pentagon building. i wonder if you can talk a little bit about the importance of what you learned there and of what the united states needs to do to not have a september 10th type of attitude when we face threats that we have. >> you know, in some ways i envy september 10th more than anything. before you see behind the curtain you don't know what's there. that's something we often say when we talk about post traumatic stress. not wanting to go around big crowds. until you are exposed to the trauma you don't know about it. september 10th was a moment of blissful ignorance but in the background it was a moment of not paying attention of showing us what could happen. i saw a video of actor james

wood who reported four people on a plane in august that year. so the reason why i bring that up is we have to have a government that functions, we have to have agencies that talk to each other and we have to learn from our mistakes and look no further than, you know, the pull-out from afghanistan to say can we learn from mistakes that get americans killed and hurt america? i hope we can. but in today's world i just don't know. >> bill: well stated. stand by. want to pause, american airlines flight 77 hitting the pentagon as we move down just on the outskirts of washington, d.c. >> we will fear no evil. may we never forget that day and honor those who died needlessly and those who stood for the hurting. in your precious name i pray. join me in a moment of silence to remember the lives lost on

that minute on september 11th, 2001. [moment of silence] [taps being played] ♪

>> ladies and gentlemen, please be seated. ladies and gentlemen, general c.q. brown, junior, chairman of the joints chief of staff. >> bill: let's bring in joey jones and talk about how it changed your life and where you fought and ways we're fighting that war, joey.

this came up last night at the debate about american involvement overseas and kamala harris suggested that no american is in a fighting state at the moment. you think about just last week, all right, you had a raid against isis in iraq that involved several americans who were injured. you have iranian missiles and rockets shot down by the u.s. air force as they flew toward israel two months ago. the houthis in yemen and you have the u.s. navy stationed in the red sea repeatedly day after day and week after week on guard against that. three american soldiers killed in january near the syrian border. that theater is still hot. how do you assess that now? >> it makes me wonder if she understands what being commander-in-chief means. listen, we have hundreds of troops in iraq and syria. we have hundreds of troops, thousands of troops on those ships. those troops on those ships

outside of israel aren't just there to throw a rocket in case something happens. there are bodies on that ship and marines on that ship that will have to go into gaza to rescue people in something happens and that's necessary. we have americans held captive in gaza and american troops ready to go save their life as soon as someone gives them the order. the idea that you can brag about not having troops in combat when you are a part of an administration in the most solemn way possible celebrated the lives of 13 americans that should not have died. it is okay to make a mistake as a leader. i have to deal with this with my son today for a mistake he made. it's okay to make a mistake. if you can't learn and acknowledge it, you aren't a leader. you are not leading. you are excusing and not learning from your mistakes. i don't care if you are republican or democrat. i care that you understand the responsibility of being commander-in-chief and that was -- should have been on display last night a lot more than it was.

there were a lot more questions about donald trump things he said in the past than what kind of leader he is going to be or what kind of leader kamala harris is going to be. the most egregious thing she said january 6th was the worst attack on democracy since the civil war. that was on september 10th that she said that. i would imagine that what happened in 2001 on september 11th was a big attack on democracy. >> dana: joey jones, we continue with our program here. thank you for joining us. we're watching as the family members of those killed on 9/11 read the names in a solemn ceremony at 9/11 where the former president, donald trump, his vice presidential nominee jd vance, joe biden and kamala harris are there as well. >> her photographs continue to remind us of her unique perspective and the special

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>> she is going to my philosophy now. i was going to sends her a maga hat. >> people start leaving his rallies because of exhaustion and boredom. >>

>> donald trump was fired by 81 million people. let's be clear about that. >> she started by saying she will do all these wonderful things. why hasn't she done it? she has been there for 3 1/2 years. >> dana: a momentous night on the campaign trail and candidates taking aim at each other's record. guy benson, host of the guy benson show and jessica tarlov co-host of the five. we want you to talk about your late father who died after a 9/11 cancer gave him the illness and took his life. you nursed him all the way through and we're grateful for you and talk about that in a second. let's get thoughts on the debate. guy, we haven't heard from you yet today. overall thoughts how you thought it went. >> well, i think she prepared very well. she had a game plan. she executed it and she did what she wanted to do, i suspect. in that debate.

we've seen some of the snap polls indicating she won it. donald trump didn't have a game plan and she keeps making these promises of what she would do over 3 1/2 years, why hasn't she done it yet. he saved that obvious pretty important point until the closing statement at the very, very end. at the start of the debate she was asked the question about are people better off than they were four years ago? and she ducked it. she didn't answer it. that was a wide open opportunity for trump to say notice that she wouldn't answer the question and here is why. instead he got bogged down on tariffs, went down cul de sacs. she baited him successfully a number of times. a good night for her. i think the early polling bears that out. but silver lining setting aside abc's disgraceful performance in the moderation, a totally the opposite of even handed, another network did a poll before and after the debate showed she won

the debate handily but on the number one issue, the economy, trump gained ground last night. so if he wins the election, i think he has a good chance of winning the election, it will be because of the facts on the ground that no one can spin. i don't think he helped his case very much last night. >> bill: speaking of facts on the grounds. this was pennsylvania. philadelphia. fracking employs hundreds of thousands of people as an industry if you consider all of that. this is what she had said before she walked into the room last night on fracking. >> i am prepared to get rid of the filibuster to pass a green new deal. no question i'm in favor of banning fracking. i'm committed to passing a green new deal creating green jobs and putting an end to fracking once and for all. >> bill: then this is how she addressed it last night, jessica. >> so my values have not changed and i will discuss every one -- at least every point that you have made.

in particular let's talk about fracking because we're in pennsylvania. i made it clear in 2020 i will not ban fracking. i have not banned fracking as vice president of the united states. >> bill: now it's up to the people of pennsylvania, a keystone state. may hold the keys to the election for him or her. did that fly? >> i think it certainly flew for those who were watching the debate for the partisans and for the undecided voters who as guy mentioned there was a snap poll after. 63% think she won. focus groups all over the place, people who had supported trump in the past who had to admit there was not an ounce of presidentialism in that performance. he was baited by the crowd size and bored attendees and all downhill from there. 27 minutes in that she landed that punch. on the fracking issue, if donald trump and his supporters are out there showing old clips of kamala harris when there are new clips of her talking about how

she feels about fracking. the fact they haven't banned it and talking about energy production, they will have a very short night on november 5th when the election is called. and you could really see the difference between someone who was prepared by real people and she was mocked about the method acting but it worked and donald trump who was prepared by clips from his favorite people on television, cat memes, jd vance, sons, not taking it seriously at all. corey -- he didn't come prepared to know how important this interview was. harris nailed it. >> dana: guy, a quick question so we can get time for jessica to talk about her 9/11 reflections. do you think there will be a second debate? >> i would think there is at least part of her that would say

i think i won this first debate. let's take that victory, go home, call it a day. but because i think the race is going to maintain very competitive status, she and her team might say you know what? he may not be capable or willing to really prepare properly for the next debate so let's have another one and remind people of this in october. that might be part of their thought process moving forward. we'll see. very quickly i think it was a risk for her to make fun of his rallies and people leaving early. people were shot dead at a rally recently and i think he had an opportunity to say how dare you talk about people coming to my rallies. we're patriots and something horrible just happened not long ago. but he didn't have the presence of mind to make that point in that moment. which contributed to the night that she had. >> bill: a good point. he could have said it. i will always stand by the people who wait in line for eight hours a day to come to my rallies whenever it is in these battleground states across the country. jessica, talk about your dad for

a second. he died of a cancer from 9/11 and you lost him two years ago. >> i did, yes. my dad, that's my sister's wedding, a spectacular day a few years before he passed away and he developed tongue cancer. we were evacuated from our home after the attack and our house became an outpost people coming to use the bathroom, first responders who were in the neighborhood. coming by we were serving food. it was an intensely beautiful time for the community, everyone coming together to make sure we were uplifting those who survived the first responders, also reflecting on those who passed away. this is a tough day for all americans, i think, and what i particularly like to reflect upon and to make sure that people understand is that this

community of mourners is so much bigger than those who might have necessarily lost someone that day or the first responders and this really affected the country at large but in particular for those who got these illnesses. i think john stewart is such a wonderful advocate for those who have gotten these diseases related to what happened in the environment and the after effects. 9/11 is deeply impactful for us and for so many thousands and millions of families. i think it is a wonderful opportunity today to take a step back and to really process how many people are a part of that day. >> dana: thank you so much. >> bill: i remember your father, mark. >> dana: guy and jessica. thank you so much. >> bill: let's get a moment to get a time-out and we'll take you to shanksville, pennsylvania next. >> adjacent to this special -- i got cosentyx. feels good to move.

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>> dana: remembering 9/11. commemoration ceremonies continue in new york and we're going to have one in a moment, bill, we'll stop for another moment of silence to mark the fall of the south tower that morning at 9:59 a.m. let's take a moment here. ♪ [bell ringing]

[moment of silence] [taps being played] >> my grandfather, richard j. o'connor we will always love and miss you. >> timothy paul gilbert. >> walt stewart gilbert. >> paul john gill. >> dana: you know, back in with our coverage o