>> the old dude is railing against these young folks! they are not sick. just like they're not working at home on friday. there at the beach! working at home? year at the beach! i drove in, there's no traffic you're not working. listen, sick is sick, but let's face it. there's an attitude, we saw we sought particularly when everyone was quitting jobs or quitting the first day or ghosting after two days. there is an attitude that i don't owe the company anything, therefore i don't want to work today and i'll call in sick. >> emily? >> you are right, we set a shift after covid. it would be like, power through, i'm sick but i'm still here. now it's like, don't come here if you're sick. i think there's a bit more grace for them, but i wonder, are they at the beach? let's check on that. >> they are not! [laughter] they're working from home extra hours! >> i'm going to have to wrap up the show. thanks for watching. "america reports" now. ♪ ♪

>> there is not one rule for friends and another for foes. one rule for the powerful and another for the powerless. one rule for the rich and another for the poor. one rule for democrats and another for republicans. or different rules depending on one's race or ethnicity. to the contrary, we have only one rule. we follow the facts and apply the law in a way that respects the constitution and protect civil liberties. >> john: attorney general merrick garland earlier today sounding off on what he says are attacks on the justice department, valuing it will not be used as a political weapon. so begins a thursday afternoon. i'm john roberts in washington. hello, sandra. >> sandra: we will see where the next two hours to excess, john. good to be with you. i'm sandra smith in new york and this is speed 27. garland calling attacks on the department dangerous and outrageous, but his address

comes as allegations continue to pile up that the doj is being used to target conservatives, like former president donald trump. >> john: let's bring in fox news legal editor kerri urbahn. targeted conservatives like donald trump but not just donald trump. >> not just donald trump. i think merrick garland believes those words, but unfortunately they are divorced from the reality of his department's actions. we can go through the list, for starters, do, dear member the attacks on the supreme court justices following the leak of the dobbs? the deferment of justice could have enforced the law against those who are threatening, bullying, at the house. they chose not to. there was an assassination attempt on brett kavanaugh. that was two years ago. that still has not gone to trial. it doesn't go to trial until next year. but think of the speed with which they pushed the donald trump stuff through. how about blm when they destroyed washington, d.c., and other cities the summer of 2020? no one was prosecuted. but you know who was prosecuted? the pro-life activist who wrote in chalk on the sidewalk in

front of abortion clinics that all black lives matter. they were the ones who were prosecuted under this the parent of justice. the department of justice traditionally never prosecutes people who blow off congressional subpoenas. guess what? this doj does, but only with respect to donald trump aids. then the january 6th offenses. they continue to go after people at the capitol that day bringing untested and novel theories of law that the supreme court just said, you can't bring a law that has to do with document shredding and evidence tampering against somebody was part of the riot that day. and yet for months we've gotten updates on that. so those are just some of the dash oh, and of course, the fan favorite, the angry parents at school board meetings. this deprived of justice under merrick garland had his national security division, a division typically used to investigate terrorism offenses, to look at the parents who were upset at what their children were being taught and spoken and towed at school, at these board meetings. so those are just some of the examples of how this doj has been used in a way that people

feel is very inappropriate with respect to conservatives. >> john: so you say that garland says nice things, but what is going on in his department is something else. does he know what's going on in his department? >> i think part of the problem -- and this is something i have criticized attorney general garland for in the past, is his use of special counsel s. he says they're independently doing their job and they're going to look at donald trump and look at this and that, but the reality is, when you are attorney general, it is your job to make the tough calls. the fact that this deferment of justice -- one of the things he said today in his speech was he came back to doj and restored norms. with all due respect, attorney general, prosecuting the former president of the united states, the possible future president of the united states, and your boss' political enemy, is anything but normal. and people would say, that's because donald trump defied norms. he's the one to blame. the response to that is, whoa,

whoa, whoa, take a look at the cases brought against him. these were not open and shut situations. the majority of all the cases brought against donald trump -- and anyone can look at this for themselves -- not just in doj, but in the state legal system, as well, they are untested legal theories, basically twisting the laws and ways that have never been done before in order to fit the facts to get the guy. i would say the only exception to that, i would say there are some obstruction issues at play in the classified documents case, but that has been dismissed, at least for now. it is not normal to try to imprison the former leader of the free world by twisting the law and bringing untested theories of law against that person. >> john: supporters of merrick garland would say, wait a second, the doj brought robust prosecution against senator bob senator bob menendez. they brought two prosecutions against hunter biden after that failed plea deal. but they say he's going after democrats, how can you say this is all political? >> that goes exec which my

point. those were clear-cut cases. bob menendez literally had gold bars in his jacket pockets, it doesn't get more obvious than that. hunter biden failed to pay his taxes and wrote off prostitutes and lavish spending as business expenses that were in. that's another example of this doj not acting appropriately. the only reason that plea deal, which was a joke of a plea deal, was brought, the whistle-blowers exposed the special treatment being given to joe and hunter biden by this deferment of justice. >> john: just to play devil's advocate here -- >> schuyler. >> john: robert menendez had gold bars in his pocket in his closet, but donald trump had classified documents in a closet at mar-a-lago. >> that's right. that's why i say the only exception to these cases, i would say there is some obstruction issues at play in the classified documents. donald trump didn't help himself all in that case. he could have complied. it was easy. it was not a big deal. he made it much harder than he should have and now the case is on appeal. going back to the special

counsel issue, what is attorney general garland doing? eight-point special counsel to look at joe biden with his classified document mishandling, and donald trump. one special counsel says, well, i think he's guilty, but his mental faculties are so poor that i'm not going to be able to get it over the finish line with a jury. i've got to respect them for saying that. that was a hard thing to say. i think it took courage, actually, and he was right, that was wise. meanwhile, jack smith has been encoded the aggressive in the amounts of charges he has brought against donald trump. so he could have made a much easier case for himself against trump, had he brought -- had he had a more conservative approach. and he hasn't. so they have pushed these things through again and again, and one thing, john, i just want to say about being attorney general, i think the hardest part about being attorney general is that you have to make the tough calls on the close calls. in the case of donald trump, and most of these cases, some of them, at least, they are close

calls. when there is a close call and you are dealing with the possible future of the president, you want to err on the side of freedom and democracy and not put that guy in prison. just because you can doesn't mean you should. there has been a lack of wisdom that has been exercised with almost all things related to donald trump coming out of this to primitive justice, and i think it has really impacted the health of this nation with respect to how they view justice and how they feel like it's being applied. to be when we got to get you a one hour special. >> [laughs] i have so much to say about this, obviously. >> john: kerri, thank you so much. appreciate it. now this. >> i'm going to vote for him. it didn't sway me. however, he was off his game and he really fit into her. >> she kept stating that she was here for the people, but i don't necessarily feel that. >> i'm kind of torn between the both. >> i personally don't think anyone won the debate last night. >> the whole debate was pretty laughable. >> i think trump has got the policies. they are solid. >> i thought it was a very good debate. i thought we had an opportunity

to see them go head-to-head. >> sandra: at a minimum, everyone has a reaction. vice president harris is now on her way to north carolina for her first campaign stop since the debate. new fox power rankings marking a major shift in to tell key states ahead of november. the forecast now showing trump losing his edge in georgia and north carolina, giving harris a lead in the overall forecast for the very first time. the two states moved from leaning republican to a toss-up. fox team coverage starts right now. we have katie pavlich on where she sees this race heading next. rich edson on how the economy is weighing on voters. the first to peter doocy. he is live in charlotte for us. hey, peter. >> sandra, you can see here at the bojangles' coliseum it is empty but it is early. there's a good line of people outside waiting for people to come in. they have had a playlist going, lots of cheers any time a taylor swift song comes on. campaign officials feel like they've got a lot of momentum

after the debate against donald trump in philadelphia and they are trying to keep it going with a new ad that features debate clips. >> we are a nation that is in serious decline. >> what i do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country. >> but a key member of the harris team is warning democrats writ large that good vibes alone and a good debate alone are not going to enact the election. >> if folks were excited and energized by vice president harris' compelling, powerful performance on the debate stage in philadelphia, they need to get up, get out, volunteer, and. if folks were alarmed and concerned by former president trump's unhinged performance on the debate stage, they should also get engaged. >> really, the closest thing we got to specifics about the harris economic philosophy in the debate was a brag about breaking a tie on the inflation

reduction act, which trump allies can't believe she's bragging about. >> she literally was the tying vote, one of the biggest lies ever, something called the inflation reduction act. it actually was the major cause of inflation. it was the inflation creation act. >> this is a state, north carolina, that donald trump won twice, and it was once again turning away from the democrats when joe biden was a nominee, but it is now 1 of 7 states the harris team thinks is part of their key to 270 electoral votes. sandra? >> sandra: okay. all interesting stuff, peter doocy. in charlotte for us. thank you. john? >> john: they put a little bit of effort into that stage and i would say. voters still struggling to stay afloat in the bite and harris economy as key items like car insurance, electricity, groceries, have all surged by double digits since generated 2021. and they did not hear what they needed to at the debate from vice president harris when it

comes to the academy. rich edson, live at the white house for us today. rich? >> good afternoon, john. we continue getting inflation data. this morning we saw wholesale prices of 147% in august compared to the year ago. the white house has a lot of this data coming in shows that the rounding the corner on inflation. consumer prices, what you and i pay, up 2.5 percent last month compared to a year earlier. that is the smallest increase since early 2021. democrats say president biden, vice president harris, are fighting to lower costs, proposing middle-class small business tax cuts, while republicans, they say, are focused on cutting taxes for the ultra-wealthy. >> if you look at the record, kamala harris has a much stronger record and vision for our economy. and yes, that is a challenge for us to connect with the average voter, remind them of the chaos donald trump caused, and the progress we have seen under the biden-harris administration. >> on that debate, "the new york times" reports

that, while pundits say that harris won the debate, undecided voters weren't so sure. they want more details from her, especially on the economy. republicans say harris can't hide from the data, with widespread inflation across the economy's in 21. >> i am running myself, and you can feel all the ebbs and flows of it, but when it comes down to what is most important to most americans, it is the economy and inflation. there is no way she can spin it. >> governor burgum not the only republican pointing to harris' voting. minority leader mitch mcconnell brought up the vp's tie-breaking vote in 2021 for the nearly $2 trillion american rescue plan that republicans blame for adding to inflation. the biden administration says that spending helped avoid the economic consequences, or more economic consequences, from the pandemic. john? >> john: all right, well, president biden now recently acknowledged that it was misnamed, that they should be talking more about energy than

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>> john: new york city's top cop has resigned. the move comes several days after federal agents raided his home as part of a corruption probe. cb cotton is live in our new york city newsroom. he's been under pressure for days to pull the rip cord, and today he did.

>> that's right. mayor eric adams announcing the nypd commissioner's resignation moments ago, coming exactly a week after caban's phones and other electronic devices were seized as federal investigators reportedly look into possible influence peddling tied to his brother, james caban. "the new york post" reported that james may have tried to profit off of his family connection by selling consulting services to nightclubs that would protect them from police scrutiny. see 11 writing in his designation letter today, "my complete focus has always been on the nypd, the department, and people i love, and have dedicated over 30 years of service to you. however, the news around recent of elements created a distraction for our department, and i am unwilling to let my attention beyond anything other than our important work, or the safety of the men and women of the nypd." now, get this -- there are three other separate ongoing federal investigations tied to people

within mayor eric adams' circle. one, examining the mayor's campaign fund raising. last november, federal agents seize the mayor's phone and ipad as he left a manhattan event, and this summer adams and several other aides -- several others tied to his 2021 campaign were subpoenaed. adams denies any wrongdoing, and today he says his focus remains undeterred. >> every member of the administration knows and expectations that we must follow the law. i also made clear that our administration will remain focused on delivering for the people of our great city. >> so caban's attorney issuing a statement just now, saying they have been assured by the federal government he is not the target of the investigation. in total, at least eight top aides to adams have been served subpoenas and search warrants this year. john? >> john: all right. and they tapped the interim police commissioner,

barack obama's former national security visor. we will see where all this goes in the days and weeks ahead. cb cotton for us, thank you. sandra? >> sandra: has become mike johnson forced to delay has stood on his plan to prevent a government shutdown after a handful of republicans pushed back on his plan. johnson originally wanted to move forward with the measure and pair it with when it mandates proof of citizenship to vote. let's bring in our panel, jason chaffetz, former utah congressman anna fox news contributor, and david carlucci, former democratic new york state senator. i know you have pretty strong thoughts on this, david. considering jason is right here to respond to you, t this up for us. it sounds pretty reasonable to american voters. why would you be against it? >> for many reasons. it is in search of a problem without a solution. look, the idea that there is rampant voter fraud is just nonsense. it reminds me of donald trump on the debate stage the other night, talking about the fear of pets being eaten by illegal immigrants. whether going to do next is attached an amendment to the

save act that will require you to lock up your pets because illegal immigrants are going to eat them. that is the nonsense here. it is stirring the stout, looking for a back door when donald trump loses the election so they can point to fraud. because there hasn't been document in fraud. on the debate stage he said there's been 60 cases that they brought forth, but they had no standing, no evidence. >> timeout. there have been thousands of instances where people have been found to have done this. >> i haven't seen them. even the heritage foundation kept a log of these and has not -- >> you could go look at texas, and you can start looking at these other states that are now in the process of doing this. democrats will say, there's no threat here, it is in search of a problem. then why not do it? >> because there's a lot of people that don't carry their passport or birth certificate around. how are you going to prove citizenship? do you have that on you right now? because a driver's license won't do. >> it will, is when you got your driver's license you had to show that you were born in the

united states of america. >> we haven't done that. >> in utah you have to do that. >> sandra: let me get speaker mike johnson's voice back in here, because he went on with maria and stressed the importance of the act and said this. >> we know for a fact, noncitizens are registered to vote in so many states around the country. we have to solve this problem. the last train leaving the station is the continued resolution. i have a colleague here that won her first race in 2020 by six votes. we have colleagues, many who have won back their races by just a couple hundred votes. >> sandra: interesting, david, that there are five house democrats who say they are for this. they voted for the save act when it was put up for a vote in july. these are the five of them. hendry cuellar, don davis, north carolina, and perez from washington. >> democrats aren't afraid to cross the aisle and i think they have shown that time and time again. we had the opportunity to finally do something about the border. have immigration reform.

>> now you're changing the subject! >> it's the same thing, is about bipartisan -- it's about the ability to get things done. democrats want to solve problems. there's not a problem here. it's not about -- we need more people voting. >> david, you do not want to solve this problem, and it is a problem. hold on. 198 democrats said no, you shouldn't have proof of citizenship to vote in the united states. kamala harris and joe biden late in more than 10 million people into this country illegally. don't tell me that there isn't a problem, that nobody is registered to vote, that it is illegal. the integrity of the vote is important. >> you want to articulate a problem, not find a solution. if it is true that there are registered voters that are illegal residents, were not citizens, then do something about that. don't make all of us have to go through hoops and jump through these windows in order to vote. >> sandra: you have to let people talk eventually. i'm curious how you respond to minority leader jeffries trying to tie the save act to project 2025, which trump has disavowed,

but democrats keep saying he is pushing it and all for it. let's listen here. >> extreme maga republicans want to shut down the government, because they are determined to jim trump's project 2025 down the throats of the american people. the constitution does not permit noncitizens to vote, period, full. extreme maga republicans have zero credibility and zero legitimacy when it comes to free and fair elections. >> sandra: since, david, democrats seem silly in favor of fact-checking, why do they keep pushing this? kamala harris even says this on her own campaign website.

trump says he doesn't even know what it is. he has disavowed it. >> he has said a lot of things we have proven has been faulty. project 2025, we have seen so many people that have worked closely with donald trump being involved in that. he was in front of the heritage foundation. he said he would be looking for them to write up this stuff. we have it on record. we know that. but his policies are very scant, so he is leaning on project 2025 as a good foundation to know this. is he going to disavow everything? look at the abortion issue. let's talk about abortion. he's in flip flopping back and forth, including that she couldn't even answer -- >> sandra: you got to stop talking of everybody and let other people speak. >> and waiting. >> sandra: who keeps pushing project 2025? >> everyone around donald trump's atmosphere, the people involved -- >> everyone around his atmosphere -- >> just like you are saying all these illegal voters. >> sandra: you've got to let jason speak. >> it is common sense to have somebody show proof of citizenship in order to get a ballot. that is the way it should be in america. you can argue with the american people all day long and tell them, we trust everybody, but that is fundamentally not right.

the integrity of the vote is far more superior than your inconvenience of having to show a birth certificate to get a driver's license. >> sandra: gentleman, a presheet the spirited debate. thank you very much. hope to have you both back. john? >> john: all right, sandra. undecided voters are still seeking a detailed economic plan from vice president harris, but it is time running out for her to explain one? fox news contributor katie pavlich with us here. she is on deck to react. >> sandra: plus dozens of buildings destroyed as wildfires rage through southern california jonathan hunt is live on the ground in wrightwood california for us right now. jonathan? >> sandra, wrightwood is at the center of the bridge fire which has already burned 80 square miles and is 0% contained. we will show you just how big it is and how difficult it is for firefighters, after the break.

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explosive claims forcing tens of thousands of people to leave everything behind. chief correspondent jonathan hunt is near the front lines of the bridge fire east of los angeles, in wrightwood, california, for us. how big are the size right now, jonathan? >> well, sandra, they burned 100,000 acres so far. 50,000 of that alone, just in the bridge fire. let me give you a sense of the lay of the land here. look over there. as far as you can see, all the way to the horizon, smoke hanging over those hills they are. as we pan back here to our left, you can see all of these hillsides tired by the flames that came through, and down at the bottom, the much loved mountain high ski resort on which wrightwood built its name. and just a couple of days ago, the flames came racing through here. take a look at this video, shot by bill lee as he escaped a scene that he described as being like armageddon. he is the manager of a local

camp. thankfully he and the camp survived. listen here to bill lee. >> we did lose a couple buildings, but not essential buildings, and so -- i mean, i've got to credit god. it's an amazing story. when you look, it is evident there was a fairly higher power that took place. >> and perhaps a higher power involved, too, in this rescue south of us in orange county near the airport fire. a woman walking out from what looks like a wall of flames, rescued by firefighters. and back here live with us, sandra, i just want to show you on a ridge about a hundred yards to our left, you can see a large smoke plume coming up there. these are the spot fires that are still breaking out everywhere. that is why there are thousands upon thousands of firefighters involved in this. behind me i can see the constant sump of the helicopter rotor blades taking off for their water drops. we can also see fixed wing

aircraft over us acting as spotters for the firefighters. every resource that cal fire has is being thrown at these fires, but it is an ongoing battle, and it will be a long one, sandra. >> sandra: quite a scene there. jonathan hunt with the update from california for us. jonathan, thank you. john? >> john: sandra, turned back to one of our top stories, the economy still a major sticking point with voters, especially undecideds who say they did not hear what they needed to at the debate from vice president harris. let's bring in katie pavlich, editor of townhall.com and a fox news contributor. the new data has just come to us. reuters found ten undecided voters who were undecided before the debate. and they surveyed them afterwards. here is what the results of the survey were. six of those undecideds now say they are either going for spear leaning toward them. five people said that harris was too vague on the economy. among the trump converts, some

of them said they didn't like him as a person, but they trusted him more on the economy. so that is why they will vote for him. >> and that is fascinating information we are seeing across the board with these undecided voters, especially in swing states. but the bar that kamala harris had to meet during the debate was convincing people that her vague plans for the economy without a lot of specifics, including dodging the first question of the debate, which was if you are better off today than you were four years ago, is that her vague plans for the economy are better than the tangible, concrete experience american voters had four years ago, or eight years ago now when donald trump was in office. how much things cost, could they still afford what they were trying to pay for? was it harder to pay the bills every month on basic items like electricity, car insurance, groceries? so she does need some more detailed plans about how she is going to be better than president trump in terms of making americans' experiences more affordable. i was listening to another network before coming on your

show today, and the campaign manager of the harris campaign was on, and he straight up said that people may feel that way but it's not true. people know how much their bills were and they can do math, so the harris campaign has a lot of work to do on the very issue of the economy, which is number one and continues to be until election day. see when a lot of people are talking about the fact that donald trump was fact-checked at every turn, and yet kamala harris was not fact-checked at all. "the new york post" has a very interesting article out today that talks about the lack of fact-checking. it says that she was not fact-checked on her claim that there are no active duty military members in a combat zone. there are, plenty of them. trump plans on implanting project 2025 if elected. no, that is not his plan. that's the heritage foundation. trump called for the execution of the central park five in a new york ad. he did not. the inflation reduction act, despite regulation undermining the promises, and no fact-check on women in america carrying

pregnancy to term and asking for abortion. in minnesota, before they change the law, there were five women who had abortions that resulted in a live birth. and took trump's charlottesville comments out of context, forgot to add the part that neonazis and watch the premises denounced him out of turn. but there were people making good organs on both sides. >> the lack of pushback on the claim that there are not u.s. troops in combat all around the world. >> john: how many naval ships to have in the persian gulf? >> and in the red sea, attacked over the course of the past 12 months by iranian-backed houthi rebels. >> john: and american service members killed in jordan. >> exactly. of course the president is in charge of the economy and the plans and they want to reduce inflation and make sure housing is affordable, but the number one job of the commander in chief is to make sure that the american people are safe, and to command the u.s. military.

so for a candidate to stand up and make that claim, that there are no u.s. troops in harm's way, in combat or war zones -- and the language is very slippery there -- was a pretty astonishing thing to hear from someone who's going to be in charge of the u.s. military. >> john: the everything that wasn't fact-checked was her "bloodbath" claim. trump didn't say there was going to be a bloodbath just generally if joe biden was reelected. it was specifically talking about the auto industry and imports from mexico. trump got it wrong. he fact-checked harris but he got it wrong. he said it was about energy. when he was talking about, he said all the imports are coming in from mexico, i will end that but if biden is reelected it'll be a bloodbath. >> if you're going to fact-check candidates, that's fine, but you have to do both sides to have an equal opportunity debate. on the issue of the bloodbath comment, when it comes to the auto industry, there was very little talk of kamala harris and her mandates of electric vehicles that she has thoroughly endorsed, both in the u.s. senate and as vice president under joe biden, and how that

would affect the auto industry and workers in places like michigan. so that is something that wasn't brought up in the context of that false statement. >> john: and how about the idea that she is on camera several times saying "i will end fracking and fossil fuels?" in the inflation reduction act did have some fracking included in it, but far less than it would have been. >> exactly. >> john: katie, great to talk to you. thanks for breaking it all down for us. sandra? >> sandra: to capitol hill now where ronald rowe is expected to face major questions over the agency report on the attempted assassination of former president donald trump. we will be speaking with paul mauro here in the new york studio next, plus this -- >> these attacks have come in the form of conspiracy theories, dangerous falsehoods, efforts to bully and intimidate career public servants by repeatedly and publicly singling them out, and threats of actual violence.

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their pension years in, and they go out in good standing. they weren't fired, so they don't have that in the background, their resume, et cetera. they're also no longer under the umbrella of the agency, so they can be ordered to testify. now if they don't want to testify to congress, or a grand jury, they have to be subpoenaed in. and they have another, hobson's choice. you may take the fifth were to ask for immunity? it gets very legalistic. but they are protecting themselves and their reputation. what it tells me is that, slow as it is, the investigation does seem like it is starting to penetrate to what really happened. >> sandra: this is mike kelly, the task force chairman. he just spoke, we are told, moments ago as he was heading into the next briefing. listen. >> we do it piece by piece. there's a lot of people that have theories and they put it out there in the next day they have to backtrack. so i was a little bit too early on that. we are never going to put anything out we are not exactly sure is 100% and can be put out there. people say, that's what we said

yesterday. i don't understand it. look, we have got a lot of really talented and qualified people to look at this. there's 13 of us, though, that had been appointed to the task force, so we will share as much information as we can as soon as we get it, and we have verified that everything we are telling people is the absolute truth. >> sandra: sounds good. we will see if that happens. but people just want any information. they feel like everything has been so vague, slow-coming, and in fact these are some of the task force members pushing for more information, pushing for the public hearings. these are two democrats. listen. >> we want as much transparency as possible. we don't want this all held quietly in a classified setting. so this is a good place to start, along with we are going to have public hearings. >> we are going to have a hearing at some point in september, a public hearing, which is important because there are people out there on the left who think this thing was staged, and their people on the right to think this was an inside job, and that is because no one is giving them information. we have got to fill the void and

give them information. >> sandra: it has led to a lot of staycation. i hear "hearings, hearings, hearings." are we going to get to the bottom of this? >> this is starting to take on the parameters of almost like the jfk assassination, because there's all these theories going around. if you have a vacuum, they get filled with nonsense. you need answers fast, and you can put out certain things that are concrete. one of the things i would like to see is to see them subpoena in some of the cops, the locals, because federally you could have some trouble, and you need the doj to try to enforce if they are in contempt, but the local cops will come in, grabbed the butler sheriff, grab a couple of locals in charge on the ground, get them on the record. we will get some clarity. if nothing else, just tell us what went on on that roof. tell us he was responsible for the roof. it's going to be in black and white in the operations plan. you and i talked about it. just have that operations plan out there, redact what you need

to if you need to cover certain things, but let the public see what went on on that roof that crooks ascended to. he could probably tamp down about 95% of this, but instead what we are getting is the atmosphere we had leading into the last election with crossfire hurricane, the 21 people, 51, rather, that signed onto the laptop being bogus, all that. you have the atmosphere of a cover-up. even if it is a cover-up, or isn't, it has the patina of one. that's what we can't afford right now. our confidence in our three letter agencies is waning. after get on top of this. >> sandra: as frustrating as it has been for the american public and for all of us watching it, this is the dhs secretary mayorkas defending the independent review. >> the independent review panel is one line of investigation of the july 13th attempted assassination. they will present me with a report at the end of this month, is what the anticipated timeline is. we have set a short timeline, given the gravity of the event,

and the urgency of addressing it successfully. >> sandra: quick final thought on that? >> he should have been testifying already. his services under dhs. he's the top guide. if i were running this, and i wish your next guy trey gowdy was running it, because he can give questions. who approved the trip to aspen during the week of the rnc? did you sign off on that, secretary mayorkas? were you involved in setting up the national security designation for the rnc? that's a national security event that is his job to designate. where is he on this other than that? he's been silent. >> john: always good to have you. thank you so much. >> we will do the same, try to stand by and listen. [applause] >> john: for spacex it is the final frontier. a spacewalk making history today. what about those fashionable space suits? what made it so special, and what it means for the future ofh

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conducting the world's first ever commercial spacewalk. our senior correspondent jonathan serrie covering this for us. quite a day today, jonathan. >> it was indeed, john. so much fun to watch this morning. jared isaacman, that entrepreneur billionaire who financed this mission, became the first private citizen to step outside and orbiting spaceship. take a listen. >> back at home we all have a lot of work to do, but it looks like a perfect world from here. >> isaacman paid spacex an undisclosed amount of money to send him in three other private astronauts into space, but this is no tourist joyride. the crew are conducting real science and testing spacex's new evac is for the very first time in the vacuum of space. after isaacman returned to the capsule, sarah gillis stepped outside. she is a spacex engineer who oversees astronaut training for the company on the ground. but this is her first time and space. at a prelaunch news conference,

she expressed confidence in the mission aboard the spacex dragon capsule. >> my husband is actually also a spacex engineer, and he helped build the propulsion system on our spacecraft, so i know exactly what goes into the testing of the design and the rigor behind absolutely everything in the spacecraft, so very, very excited to fly on my favorite dragon spacecraft. >> because the dragon has no airlock, the cabin had to be completely depressurized during the spacewalk, and all four private astronauts were wearing those new spacex eve suits. the company is hoping to one day use these next-generation eva suits to be part of extended human habitats on the moon and eventually on mars. john? >> john: and when have you ever heard anyone say of a space suit, hey, that makes you look good! jonathan, thank you so much. >> they are very fashionable. they look like some of those movies we used to see in the

20th century, like "2001: a space odyssey," with a predicted space suits would look like in the 21st century. they are beautiful. >> john: finally here. thank you. great report. >> sandra: we are awaiting vice present harris' arrival in north carolina to kick off her new way forward tour, but what is her new way forward? especially on the economy. that's a good question. she did not seem to answer that in the debate. we will talk to robert wolf about that, and brian brenberg. they will join us onset.

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