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hour with you. >> john: good to be another jam-packed hour with you. i'm john roberts in washington and this is "america reports." the power rankings have moved georgia and north carolina back toward harris, from lean republican now to toss ups. the shift gives harris an edge for the first time in this race. >> sandra: but independent voters say they still need to hear a lot more from her, especially when it comes to the economy. we will have more for you on that in just a moment. first, let's get to alexandria hoff live in washington for us. hey, alex. >> hi, sandra. georgia and north carolina moving out of that lien r category mean that they are six states consider toss ups. it's 272 would not when that comes to the latest power rankings show that either candidate could easily move past that threshold. vice president harris at 241 to trump's 219 at the moment. when it comes to georgia, harris dedicating resources there has paid off. president biden nearly flipped the state in 2020 and this year harris kicked off her bus tour in savannah. last election, trump won

north carolina by 1.3 points, but population growth has changed the suburban landscape, allowing harris to chip away at the margins there. on top of north carolina and georgia, the states that will decide this election are arizona, nevada, pennsylvania, and wisconsin. you can play with the math on which combinations would get a candidate to 270, but it is interesting, because the states that poll close tend to be lost and won together. see here, in 2016, trump won 7 of 8 battleground states. in 2020, biden did the same. over the last 12 months, support for trump has remained remarkably steady. that is in the face of indictments, a conviction, an assassination attempt, and a change in opponent. the national survey shows democrats pulling with a bit more variation. it's also going to take several more weeks for opinions on tuesday's debate to reflect in poll numbers, but as we know, at least in the trump era, pulling shifts following debates have been slight. sandra? >> sandra: alexandria hoff in

washington. thank you, alex. john? >> john: they typically don't last long, either. inflation still the top issue for americans and many are wondering if they'll get more of the same under a harris demonstration. the prices on key items like car insurance, electricity, housing, and groceries have all surged since biden and harris took office. by the white house is painting a rosy picture. >> i take away from today's data that we are turning the page on inflation. inflation has backed down. 2.5%, that's very close to the level we saw right before the pandemic started. >> john: our panel of robert wells and brian brenberg will react in moments, the first to ed lawrence, live at the white house. new inflation numbers were just released today. what did they tell us? >> those of the producer price index, and they come in line with what we are seeing. inflation is coming down a little bit. however, vice president kamala harris during the debate couldn't answer the basic

question on whether it today you are better off than you are four years ago. part of that is the higher prices that have dogged the biden harrison administration. overall prices of 20% from the month president biden and vice president harris got it off, that's all food at grocery stores and restaurants, up about 22%. rent is up about 23%. all of these price increases come as real wages, wages after taking into account inflation, are down 1.7% from the month the biden harrison administration started making changes in january of 2021. >> kamala's economic policies, it's more of the same. she has rolled out in that debate more spending that would be highly inflationary. if people think she's going to fix the economy, that's like asking and arson is to come put out the fire, because she lit the inflation fire. >> "the wall street journal" looking at the u.s. census data found wealth created under former president trump far exceeded the wealth created under the biden-harris administration. in an op-ed, the editorial board

writes this. "federal spending has a share of gdp averaging 20.5% during the first three years under mr. trump compared to 25.8% under mr. biden. never has a government spent so much money only to leave americans poorer." democrats, though, want you to ignore those numbers. >> republicans claim investing in america would make inflation skyrocket, and dried our economy into a recession. instead, the house has had the strongest -- sorry, instead the u.s. has had the strongest post-covid recovery in the wo world. >> poll after poll shows americans don't quite get the same just yet. john? >> john: edward lawrence for us. thank you. >> sandra: let's bring in our panel. as promised, robert wells is here, former obama economic advisor and a fox news contributor, and brian brenberg's host of "the big money show." welcome to both of you. >> good to see you. >> sandra: i was really looking forward to this because

i feel we have not done done that dug deep enough into the open of that debate, when kamala harris was asked by the moderators a question that manye not asking themselves. our americans better off today than they were four years ago? she didn't answer that question, but she said this. >> i imagine and have a plan to build what i call an opportunity economy. here's the thing, we know that we have a shortage of homes and housing, and the cost of housing is too expensive for far too many people. we know that young families need support to raise their children, and i intend on extending a tax cut for those families of $6,000, which is the largest child tax credit that we have given in a long time, so that those young families can afford to buy a crib, buy a car seat, buy clothes for their children. my passion, one of them, is small businesses. my plan is to give a $50,000 tax deduction to start up small

businesses, knowing they are part of the backbone of america's economy. >> sandra: so she let off with not only not answering the question, but promising free stuff, paid for by the american taxpayer, the american government. i mean, was this not an opportunity for donald trump, a lay up to say this is what got us to this inflation crisis to begin with? >> yeah. at the end of the debate they said, "why haven't you done it yet cannot" that should have been what he said in the opening answer. i don't think they should do any of these things, because these are not things that grow the economy. they are not opportunity economy stuff. they are giveaways. and what she didn't talk about is the fact that, with one hand, the government is going to give you these little things here. with the other hand, it's going to raise your taxes. that doesn't hold together logically. she never got pressed on that, and that was the big miss in this debate. >> sandra: if she were elected president, robert, and she actually got that done, it makes

those big promises to voters, get through congress -- i mean, aren't we just talking about more massive government spending that got us here to begin with? pushing prices even higher, and those handouts become meaningless? >> first of all, as you know, no presidential budgets ever get passed, so let's just start that. >> sandra: so those were empty promises? >> that is what i was going to say, they don't get passed. each present goes in, like president trump, president biden, they go in with their wish list, but they don't have the power of the purse, so they have to go through congress. her idea that her tax plan where the president's tax plan is going to get through as is, it's just not fact. i do think, to brian's point, the former president had an opportunity to actually have a real debate on the economy, but he instead wanted to talk about -- >> sandra: did you like what she offered? >> i think her platform that housing and food prices and health care and child care are the four basics everyone is concerned about.

>> sandra: but the plan was to hand out more money. >> i don't view it like that. i think -- you want to say something. >> sandra: that's okay, robert! [laughs] >> i think those are the right four quadrants. whether i would be as prescriptive on the different policies as she is doing, like, i wouldn't tax on realized gains. i am not for a wealth tax. i don't have an issue where we are talking about the trump tax cut in a different way. so there are things i would do. i am more fiscally conservative then most of the fiscal conservatives that trump is talking about. >> that's probably true, but you look at these things, like on housing, i agree it's a huge problem. you do a $25,000 first-time housing credit, you are an economist, you know it's going to happen there. >> i'm not an economist. don't insult me. business guide. sorry, steve moore. [laughs] >> the price gouging and price control thing. i know you have a different take on that, but if you do that, it would not bring down those grocery prices. she says, i want to fix things

i've presided over for 3.5 years, but didn't say how. that's a fatal flaw in the economy. that's why trump is moving even more forward on the economy in the polls. >> when i was president of ubs, we were probably the largest player in the mortgage sector and the housing sector. just to frame it differently, post-covid, we have a huge imbalance of supply and demand. i like the idea that she has a plan to build more homes, and maybe with a fund. i like that idea. i am not necessarily supportive of the $25,000. >> you are definitely not supportive of that. you can't be. you are too smart for that. >> but let's build the homes first. >> totally, that goaded the regular nations to do it. i don't know the plan to build homes is. i didn't hear a lot of detail on that. >> we can go through that another time. >> sandra: it was government spending. >> no, there was a fund. not a government fund, a private sector fund. >> sandra: i want to end with this. this is not saying she didn't answer the question on the economy. this is "the new york times."

they are saying the question kamala harris didn't answer on the economy, which voters often rank as issue most important to them, she only scratched the surface on how she would an act tax cuts, build affordable housing, and help parents of young children. as i heard, then clearly articulate and what i heard, i heard government handouts. most important, she did very little to dismiss your plan. >> i thought you would bring up that. it also said, "donald trump is not fit to serve." so they also hit former president trump on him bringing out the cats and the dogs and going off on tangents. listen, that was a debate where i think they need to be more substantive if there's another one. >> sandra: i think voters can be blind to democrat/republican as long as they hear somebody who is business-friendly. people want a business-friendly environment because they think that is one in which they and

their family will thrive. >> and they want to hear the plan logically hang together. that's what was missing. >> sandra: perhaps missed opportunities, i think we can all agree, for both. thanks to both of you. john? >> john: all right, sandra. vice president harris makes her first campaign stop since the debate in north carolina and a little while. there is the rally site right there. look at the elaborate staging. we will keep an eye on all of that. >> sandra: look at that. plus, attorney general merrick garland speaking a short time ago defending that affirmative justice against what he calls an effort to turn the agency into "a political weapon." trey gowdy is here on that. >> i think the american people are going to be shocked, astonished, and appalled by what we will report to them about the failures by the secret service in this assassination attempt. >> john: shocked and appalled, that's what americans can expect to be when the secret service report on the assassination attempt on former president trump's life is

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breaking moments ago out of north dakota, a judge has struck down that states abortion ban and clearing the way for it to become legal in the state. the judge argued the constitution creates a right to access abortion before a fetus is viable and argued the law violates the constitution because it is too vague. the order will take effect within 14 days. no word yet on whether the state will appeal. sandra? >> sandra: all right, john. a small ohio town is seeing a major surge in migrant arrivals with as many as 15,000 haitians settling there since 2020. now springfield residents are sounding the alarm's, saying the influx is draining resources and overwhelming schools. christina clement is live in

springfield, ohio, for us now. hi, christina. >> over the past four years, at least 15,000 haitian immigrants have come to the small city here in springfield, dramatically and rapidly increasing the population here and stretching resources sin. take a look to how one woman explains it. >> it's like living in a dystopian nightmare. you hope you wake up and it is 2019 again and then you realize it is 2024 and it's the same thing over and over again, day after day. it's hard sometimes to get up in the morning and here residents that i've known for years struggle. >> sandra: the people here in this community clearly hurting. i spoke to a couple of folks who tell me that a lot of the haitian immigrants have not been outside today. many of them are staying inside while the national spotlight is here on their town. at the local community deals with the challenges. a number of people have had a

community meeting to discuss their frustrations over the lack of resources. take a listen to what they had to say. >> this influx is making it worse for them. housing. housing is another issue. the overcrowding and housing. >> are frustrations and concern continue to fall on deaf ears. this community has been begging for help for some time. >> the influx here has been a culture shock, to say the least. i feel like our city is basically being treated like a flophouse. >> some folks around here say begging for more resources, hoping for the biden administration's help. as you can see here, people still in need. as for those resources that are desperate here, there is more need for translation services, driver education classes,

medical services. there has to be bigger classroom sizes. the governor explained some of this. take a listen. >> these dramatic surges intact every citizen in the community, every citizen. the moms who have to wait hours in the waiting room with a sick child, everyone who drives on the streets. it affects children who to school in more crowded classrooms. >> it's tough. the governor also announced that about $2.5 million in state funding will be spent in this community to help with much needed resources. also yesterday he announced the ohio state highway patrol has been dispatched to this area to help local police with some traffic problems here. apparently there's a number of haitians who do not yet understand u.s. traffic laws, and obviously that's a big concern for people driving around here. they want to be careful, they want to stay safe. back to you. >> sandra: christina coleman, we appreciate that report. thank you.

john? >> john: sandra, attorney general merrick garland pushback on claims that the department of justice is weaponize. garland says those attacks are "outrageous and dangerous." it comes amid growing allegations from the public and former president trump that president biden has used the doj to target him. let's bring in trey gowdy, fox news contributor, former republican south carolina congressman, and host of "sunday night in america was trey gowdy." i want to put a bit of what garland said in a statement earlier today. listen here. >> in short, we must treat like cases alike. there is not one rule for friends and another for foes. one rule for the powerful, and another for the powerless. one rule for the rich, and another for the poor. one rule for democrats, and another for republicans. or different rules depending on one's race or ethnicity. >> john: earlier today kerri urbahn suggested, well, garland seems to be saying the

right things, but in reality -- she pulled out a laundry list of cases that would seem to contradict everything he said. what do you say? >> yeah, i mean, i would start with the former u.s. attorney of massachusetts who lied to federal investigators, lied through her teeth to inspector general investigators. nothing happened to her, john. contrast that with those prosecuted in california and dragged across united states, prosecuted in the district of columbia. what he did pales in comparison to what rachel rawlins did. the difference is she's a democrat and he's a republican. how about comey admitting on stage that he did something to donald trump's administration that he never would have even tried under barack obama? do you remember the book tour he went on, where he just couldn't wait for the audience to applaud? when he said, "to be honest with you, we wouldn't even have tried

it." what about peter strzok? i don't know if merrick garland was on the golf course with other judges when peter strzok and l the others conspired to hp one candidate over another candidate. if merrick garland really believes the doj has not been weaponized, then not only does he not need to be the ag, he frankly doesn't need a driver's license. he is delusional if he believes that. >> john: i want to switch gears and go on to the assassination attempt against the former president. the acting director of the secret service was across the street in a closed-door meeting with republicans and democrats. michael waltz was one of the people he was in that meeting. here's what he said after coming out. listen here. >> leading the investigation and the motive, but we need to understand at least with the acting director knows. what is going on with accountability within his agency? my point has been that this isn't an isolated one-time incident. the threats are ongoing, both

foreign and domestic. so what actions are we taking now? we can't wait six months to get to the bottom of it. >> john: there's a lot of complaints from members of congress. they feel like they're being stonewalled by the secret service and the fbi. the fbi disputes that notion. what do you think? >> yeah, i mean, welcome to the club. the fbi's number one rule is to protect the reputation of the fbi. they are not responsible for protecting the president. that is secret service, which apparently now is under dhs. it used to not be when i was a prosecutor. so they have a hard job. 99 is a failing grade. but you knew that when you took the job, and your job is to keep alive whoever it is you are protecting. so yes, they need to figure out what went wrong and how. the motive thing to me, john, i know i'm in the minority. there is no motive that explains aiming a long gun at someone's head and pulling the trigger. there is no motive that explains shooting up a classroom. there is no motive that explains discriminant leak killing people, so quit looking for the

daggone motive and figure out how to stop this from happening. >> john: in a video released every day, melania trump suggested there's a lot more to the story than we know. listen to what she said. >> the attempt to end my husband's life was a horrible, distressing experience. the sounds around it feels heavy. i can't help but wonder, why didn't law enforcement officials arrest the shooter before the speech? there is definitely more to this story, and we need to uncover the truth. >> john: there is probably more to the story and we need to uncover the truth. here's how that statement wasn't by left-wing media. "the daily beast," "uniting coastal truther on trump assassination bid." "huffington post," "melania trump hits a conspiracy

theory about husbands assassination attempt." mother jones, "melania pushes conspiracy theory about trump shooting to promote her memoir." some people think maybe federal law enforcement was contacted not complicit in the assassination attempt. i don't necessarily believe that. but the real controversy here was perhaps maybe there hasn't been adequate protection for donald trump for a long, long time. and we just found out about the failings on july 13th. what do you think? >> what i think is i would tell my fellow americans, never assume a conspiracy when simple incompetence will explain it. in my past, it has always been incompetence, which is not a defense, it's just, i don't know why anyone -- and i don't think the first lady was talking about a conspiracy. i just think the left wing doesn't like her for whatever reason. but no matter what the issue is, i don't run to a conspiracy.

often it is just human failure. i need to know at the local cops and the feds were in communicating better. there is no excuse to allow someone with a long gun to get up on a ladder, no matter who is speaking, much less a former president of the united states. so i look first to incompetence and then a lack of communication, and if i can't find the answer there, maybe i will entertain a conspiracy. but usually it is incompetence. >> john: all right, well, hopefully we are going to learn more about this when this report from the secret service comes out. "shocking and appalling" is how richard blumenthal, the senator from connecticut, said we are going to experience or find that report when it comes out. so we will see. oakley it will be out soon. trey, great to catch up with you. we will see you sunday. sandra? >> sandra: history made with today's spacewalk. what is the mission mean for the future of space flight? >> john: plus, vice president harris and former president trump are both holding rallies later today in battleground states. we have got fox power rankings on how the debate impacted their chances in those states, coming

up. and analysis from bret baier coming up next. >> she does need some more detailed plans about how she is going to be better than president trump in terms of making americans experiences more affordable.

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♪ ♪ >> john: a live look at charlotte, north carolina, where vice president harris just landed and will soon hold her first rally since the debate. meanwhile, former president trump is gearing up for a rally in battleground arizona. he is expected to focus heavily on the economy today. our senior correspondent alicia acuna is live in tucson with more. what else could the former president talk about tonight, alicia? >> hi, john. the trump campaign says in addition to the economy he will also focus on the high cost of housing, but specifically we do expect to the former president to explain how he sees illegal immigration's role in all of it.

>> the first thing i would do is close at the border. people have to come into our country legally. they can't come in the way they are doing now. we have millions and millions of people coming in, even on a monthly basis, destroying our country, and it affects our economy. >> the city of tucson is about an hour drive from the border patrol's busiest sector, where about a third of all encounters on the southern border happen. looking at the economy, according to the bureau of labor statistics, arizona's unemployment rate in july was 3.4%. that's better than the nationwide rate of 4.3%. both candidates need independents to win this battleground state. they make up about a third of the electorate. this is trump's third visit to arizona since joe biden stepped aside in july. j.d. vance has made three stops. harris has been here once in that time frame and tim walz campaigned in the phoenix area on debate day. fox digital reports the democratic national committee plans to put out a newly

released campaign video to be played on a mobile billboard outside the event center. the topic? her debate comments on his rallies. >> what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom. and i will tell you, the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you. >> i can tell you this hall holds about 2200 people. it is starting to fill up with a very long line outside. >> john: it's about two and half hours for now and it's already bumping. we will see how it goes tonight. alicia coming in for us, thank you. sandra? >> sandra: fox news power rankings released today show vice president kamala harris with an overall lead for the first time as former president trump loses his edge in georgia and north carolina. but it remains tight across all six battleground states, making the election still anyone's game at this point. joining is now here in the new york studio is bret baier, inc. or an executive editor of "special report." awesome to have you here.

what did you make of these power rankings and what does it tell us at this point in the race? >> it tells us this is really tight, essentially tied. it tells us that we are in a place that this is as tight an election as we have seen in decades, maybe longer. and as you look at all these polls, they are within the margin of error. it shows that any little thing could swing it. it shows, i think, that for democrats to win electoral college they need to be up about 4 points in the overall polling. so there is still an advantage for the former president and some of the states where it is even tied. that said, there is going to be a battle here in the next 50 plus days. >> sandra: we were just talking to robert wolf a moment ago, acknowledging the same thing. when you look at where biden was at this point in the race, she is behind when you look at that measure. 78 toss upvotes make it anyone's

game. you can that states. one. one key thing, we are just digging into it with our econ panel a second ago. "it's the economy, stupid." this is still a top issue for voters. inflation in these battleground states since january 2021 is a very real thing. the voters are living through this inflation crisis every singsingle day. while it has slowed from its peak during biden's presidency, the prices are still sky-high. so how much of a play is this going to be in the election? >> i think it's the closing argument for the former president. it continues to be his driving thing to talk about pretty obvious he talks a lot about immigration and the border but then transitions that to how to fix economy. how families feel about their own family budget on the back of an envelope, trying to make all the dollars equal up after buying groceries and everything else, that's really what every election comes down to you. but this one in particular with all the inflation numbers. >> sandra: what do you say

today about the fact-checking that happened at the debate, the fact-checking that happened by the moderators for one side and not so much the other? people are looking at the things that were said by kamala harris including police dying on january 6th, see its bloodbath comment, he said people on both sides, trump support for project 2025, and trump's stance on ivf. is there a case to be made that there wasn't enough fact-checking there? >> if you're going to do it, you've got to do equally on both sides. i have said many times before, i think moderators are at their best when they are not part of the story. at the end of the debate, it is not the story. i think jake tapper and dana bash did that effectively, and they were praised. there were some people who said they didn't fact-check enough. but this was something where people, critics of it, said this is not fair on one side or the other, and that is where we are

today. >> sandra: there was certainly a feeling a lot of people had as they are watching it. you could see that out in the social media atmosphere. finally, on that topic of trump support a project 2025, when we saw kamala harris finally put her policies on her website, she clearly connected donald trump to project 2025 from the heritage foundation. when he has very publicly disavowed that. here he is in his own words. >> they have been told officially, legally, in every way, that we have nothing to do with project 2025. >> i don't know anything about it. i don't want to know anything about it. >> as you know and as she knows better than anyone, i have nothing to do with project 2025. that is out there. i haven't read it. i don't want to read it. purposely i'm not going to read it. >> sandra: it's made me wonder, what has the heritage foundation said about his connection to project 20 to five? brain room dug up that eight days ago the president of the heritage foundation said that

they are fearmongering relate mostly about project 2025 when it comes to donald trump. and he said, "what we are hearing are downright lies such as the claim that project 2025 was created by president donald trump. both heritage and mr. trump have made it extremely clear." so why does this seem to continue? it did so on the debate stage, as well. >> one, no matter what the former president says about being distanced from it, democrats see it as an opportunity because they look in these polls and it resonates. it is one of the things that sticks. so they think it's working, and they're going to keep coming back to it. the other thing that is a little tough is that he chose a running mate who happened to write the foreword to project 2025. he can distance himself from it but his running mate and ready open. they can hang their hat on that.

>> sandra: enjoyed your coverage of the debate this week. thanks, bret. >> back at home we all have a lot of work to do, but from here, earth sure looks like a perfect world. >> john: astronauts aboard the spacex polaris done marking a milestone just by stepping outside of the spacecraft. former astronaut leroy chow joins us to talk about this mission and what it might mean for the future of space travel.

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>> john: history made among the stars as civilian astronauts conduct the first ever commercial spacewalk earlier today. billionaire entrepreneur jared isaacman along with spacex engineer sarah gillis stepping outside the spacex polaris dawn

this morning for a stunning view hundreds of miles above earth. leroy chiao is a form an to my former nasa astronaut and space station commander. let's listen to how jared isaacman described it when he popped his head out of that polaris dawn capsule. listen here. >> back home we have a lot of work to do, but from here it looks like a perfect world. stealing your thoughts, leroy, on the significance of the first astronaut? not a government or military astronaut, going on an eva today. >> this is a spectacular first. eva is challenging and not without risk activities that astronauts do. i remember the first one i did and i was fortunate enough to do six in my career, four and american suits and two in russian suits. but the fact that we have now people who are trained not by nasa, not by the chinese space

agency, but by spacex to go out and actually perform an eva in a brand-new space suit, it's pretty significant. it was not a sophisticated eva. the space it is not as sophisticated and that it doesn't have a backpack. that is, they had to stay umbilical, so their oxygen in the connection for the communication system, things like that, all came through the umbilical. but it was still a very significant first and they got that spectacular view, and that is what every astronaut remembers. >> john: i wanted to ask you about the suits because this is a brand-new design for more comfort during lung space flight. i've got a side-by-side. here is the space suit that nasa has been using. and you probably use this, astronauts during space box at the station. you sort of look a little bit like the stay-puft marshmallow man. and it looks like he could have designed by armani.

in terms of long transit times, to the moon or mars, which suit do you think is better? >> during the transit you wouldn't be wearing the suit, so you generally only wear the suit, this kind of suit, when you're going outside to do work. and then you wear a different kind of suit or an inside pressure suit inside the capsule or the spacecraft, during the rendezvous and docking operations, and the higher risk operations where it could be a cabin leak and you want to be prepared. so that is not as bulky as you showed, the one nasa uses to go outside of, let's say, the space station. in any case the spacex suits were designed to look more cool, more sleek, and from reports i have heard, much more comfortable than some of the past suits, for example, that we used to wear on board the space shuttle for lunch.

an entry. hats off to those guys are innovating and i have no doubt in the future they will also develop a backpack full of the oxygen bottles, scrubbers, batteries, communication equipment, tooling system. and they will keep moving forward. >> john: i guess the big deal is the nasa suits are not really one-size-fits-all, but sort of interchangeable and they get to an approximate size, whereas the spacex suit is tailored specifically for the astronaut. all the joints and bearing joints and things like that are little more accurate. i want ask you this before you go. nasa has been doing this for a long time. ed white was the very first astronaut to go on the spacewalk. that was gemini 4 back in 1965, and that was a full-on, outside-the-capsule, tethered walk. the astronaut here kind of popped their heads out of the capsule for a little while. they have only been doing this commercially for four years. who does it better, do you th

think? >> well, there's no question that companies like spacex have been very innovative. they have pioneered probably the biggest innovation of recovering and reusing first-stage boosters, which has dramatically brought down launch costs. they have successfully cut payload bearings and use those, now they are making their own eva suits and taking that first step. so you're right, this is kind of an ed white moment. they are trying this thing out. ed white was also on and umbilical. and just before ed white they did it for the russians, and he had and umbilical, as well paid but both countries pretty quickly went to the backpack, which i expect spacex will also develop. >> john: we will see. it is heady days in the months and years ahead. leroy, thanks so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. thank you. >> john: great to talk to somebody who's actually been hanging out there. sandra? >> sandra: a live look in

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