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is an attempt by former president donald trump. >> 130 this afternoon, called the melt charts are holding by the secret service in the bushes work this guy was, is an ak-47, style rifle with a scope. and to backpacks which were high events that had ceramic tile with a minute gopro the secret service agent that was did a fantastic job when they do is, they have an agent that jumps ahead of time with the president was out. and he was able to buy the rifle barrel sticking out of the fence immediately agent with that in and defend individual at individual took up. >> present donald trump is even well after being targeted were golfing at the trump international golf club and the suspected comments was pulled over by martin county police, where he was taken into custody. also that of the same or shots were fired, weapons, hanging on

event and this comes just over two months of the former president survived a first assassination attempt during his rally in butler, pennsylvania, and 20 is now to discuss my house, sean hannity and think you so much for being here tonight, and especially is even talking to the former president tonight his family and how are they doing. sean: trump is fight fight fight trump it's interesting and i'd going to breakfast with steve wycoff and he is a brilliant developer businessman and florida, good friend of mine and of the president we went to breakfast and he was trying to get me to play golf with him and i really do not play a lot of golf and i said thank you but i have work to do. and so he called me not long after this happen i spoke to him numerous times and president trump numerous times in the

above-described pretty much the same thing, and see probably giving more details and terms of what was happening because he was the observer of the secret service, that was on duty and he could save enough in terms of praising them and the people around the president that quickly they were to jump on him and get him in a very fast golf cart secured getting back to safety immediately. and then steve followed it and when he walked back into the clubhouse, here the president ask where is steve, where is this person where is that person. mr. president was assured that everybody was safe, then he started to joke and said, i was shooting and even ramp had a birdie putt and really wish they could've finished that pole. let's how he would handle it but we have learned a lot since then and i want to see this through the prism of well so many members of my family have been

in law enforcement in my own parents connected to enforcement different capacities. in the secret service and the guys there, with the president amazing and steve would call and will explain all this on my show tonight and however, when we were watching a press conference today, think really really about alarming lingering when the pointed out that the shooter with an ak-47, any scope, was 300-500 yards away from the president and that there was a tree line is offense that he was firing through the fence and had to backpacks and gopro which would indicate that he probably wanted to videotape or memorialize what he was doing which was scary and will find out in the days to come. but this is my problem. this goes back to pennsylvania and if you remember earlier in the week i connecticut senator

blumenthal me, when americans find out what happened in butler, the level of failure that took place there, and originally we were told, that was a slow proof that made it impossible come up with the service to safely secure the area and it turned out that was not sloped roof. when we find 300-500 yards away from not only a former president as they said become a better top presidential candidate, is unacceptable. you have to secure the perimeter because if anybody has anything about shooting, you would know that is the equivalent pretty much of a layup if you're a golfer that would be 1 foot pot you will miss him and 9 percent of the time. i'm not in and of itself is a problem and what they said was, he is not the current president well nobody's upon the president who just rescinded survived the recent assassination attempt in

the current candidate and we have an election to do a nascent why have either security cameras and why did they not have motion detectors or somebody outside on the street, with the shooter was located, looking at on this. i do applaud the cypress, that identified that there was somebody that had a gun and shot. we do not have the details yet but when they become available they will be revealing that somebody in this position, this is a security failure again. there's really no other way to put it and i really don't know why and i am sure we will get answers in the days and weeks to come, this interim report that congress is going to put out, if it is as senator but without the cut from connecticut describes as americans will be appalled and shocked by what we learn in

terms of the security failures that butler, i can only imagine how people will react to what happened here. there are more questions than answers tonight alicia way, and charles enjoyed everybody there, and i need to be honest. it is disturbing. just to give you a bit of detail as to what happened when the shooting occurred prayed steve described to me this like the present confirmatory the pop pop, pop pop, they knew it was a gunshot and immediately within seconds, the president is on the ground, covered by previous secret service agents that did their job, protected the president and immediately got him out of the area and to safety. and everybody else followed thereafter and so they did their job they were amazing in terms of how quickly they responded here. but to not have the perimeter with a fence, he treed area and

somebody has the ability to get within that range of the president with a scope on an ak-47, is just simply unacceptable. >> hey shaun charlie here, he was interesting some of the same thing that he was struck by press conference talking about the lower level of security in this case and maybe think immediately, the former first lady, especially given the powerful video that she released was last week sometime, talking about her concern for her husband. in conversations with the former president today, did you get a sense and did you talk to any family members or did you get a sense about where they are on all of this. >> will it's interesting i did talk to eric trump and both eric and don jr. happened it to be superb marksman and it just so happens with telling me earlier today, with some top-notch

sharpshooters some of the best in the country, and they were getting targets from a mile a way that they give people a bit of a perspective in terms of, with the perimeter needs to be for any top candidate or elected official. the perimeter cannot be 300-500 yards, because that is considered an easy shot by anybody that has any level of skill. now eric, to be honest he was pretty emotional. these are the worst make about how many more lives does my father have here in terms of newly can only dodge so many bullets. he rightfully is upset. and knowing the firearms as well as he does, he makes a compelling case and i'm going to put him on tomorrow night and he's going to describe this in his own way and i felt animal family has to be upset. i room of the time in this happened in butler, baron trump

found out, some of the men over to have said your dad shot we think that instead. the kid that is about to go off to college and don't think that is a great moment in his life and probably very to medic one for him. and for the entire family come i feel horrible for this family for all they have gone through, summa jeff it has been unfair but just to stay focused on this, you know, the president tends to shrugs off himself. the president shook the hands up according to my friend steve week off of every single person that was out there protecting him. he thanked every one of them for protecting him. he was grateful to all of them. i just happens to be the way that he happens to be. is assigned to him that i wish you would show more often to the american people. but it does not negate the question charlie, i think we are tracking on this very important issue, you have a tree line and you have a annually

300 ya clean shot and who was number one. top-notch secret service agent, that was able to stop the threat by taking his own shots, i don't know where we would be again today in the last time come over talking about agility look in the president would not be alive today and we would've had the state funeral for donald trump back or after butler pennsylvania so i think that there is a lot of questions that need to be answered in this interim report from congress will be. i don't think sean is lonely here. molly: in the last time that i saw you in person, we were outside and mr. outside of the golf club where he had just survived the prior assassination attempt and it's remarkable that the former president is still alive and remarkable that we are talking about security failures in the bravery of course of the

people on whether the secret service one whole ahead and created where we are today and thankfully from the holy estate funeral of types. your thoughts because were still waiting for the first interim report to come out in the prior assassination attempt. charlie: on so many levels are so right and member the we had about this very topic but if you think of the distance up 300-500 yards, and the idea regardless with the resources are, if you do not have enough resources to cover outside of the tree a tree-lined fence area, when the president or the former president, presidential candidates playing golf, that is a security hole and ability failure of a magnitude that i cannot even describe. especially in light, i might add, the fbi director christopher income of the last

five times he has been to capitol hill combined of heaven criticism that director ray. with the last times that he has been there, he has been clear, unequivocal, that the threat level in this country has never been greater then it is right now it is coming from every where. so that would tell me that we need more resources, not just for president trump, before every for the vice president and for the president and any other high ranking official renee but my have specific direct threats but they direct intelligence about a specific threat. there needs to be a reevaluation here. especially after these two incidents and we need to get to the bottom of why the security failures keep happening. one of the things are really bothered about mother, and again, go back to what we were first told him that we told was the reason we do not have

officials and snipers on the roof was because it was a sloped roof welcome there was an adjacent building with a greater pitched slope roof, and they did have snipers on that roof. this was pretty much will i would describe it is without a slope and think that is somebody knows a little bit about a sloped roof because i fell off a roof, three stories when i was in construction many years ago. and a biphasic busted of my arm and then we see the people, i woke up after hitting my head and i was a conservative coming up sensitive me try to be funny really there's nothing funny about what is going on here the security threat is real one of the things that really has troubled me, about the kamala harris and joe biden entered biden administration fact that we have allowe 11 million on that dated illegal immigrants,

news country, we have dozens of americans we know that have been murdered and raped victims of violent crimes and the worst part is that we know we help known terrorists in the country. i have been saying this on my radio show, right here in this news and my tv show, that it is not a matter of if but a matter of went but i pray to that i am wrong if it does terrorists let me know in the country, and the biden administration will not release the names of the countries that they know that they are from, "fox news" digitals and requesting that for a long time with her here i believe that they are plotting and planning and scheming, their next 911 worst on this country. and it is the greatest national security threat we face and all of it was preventable bothers me a lot. >> we are nine weeks monday

since donald trump nearly lost his life a millimeter in butler, pennsylvania and turned his head towards that screen to read a charge and he didn't do that he was killed. joe: and now here we are, 64 days later and the president nearly loses his life again. what really bothered me about what happened then, was how quickly the media did not talk about this story did not talk about the suspect within two weeks notice that confidence and never have happen here because we cannot create a normal around president newly being assassinated yet that's what happened last time you think this happens again here. >> will joke on your media analysis is always spot on and i think you are right about this in more ways than you may know and it kind of got pushed to the side and we kind of been

ignoring all that. what really bothers me that if we have unfortunately, sadly and tragically, covered to me school shootings over the course of our careers all of us on this program tonight. when you think about most of the school shootings, we know within hours, who the person is, we've identified where they stand politically on social media, we start learning about their background. maybe they had trouble problems or whenever it happened to me, we know more within five hours we learned in a month after butler pennsylvania. so i think at the end of the day, that we need more information and not less information it comes to shootings like this in the media needs to not ignore this. i do not want to see any elected official ever in any situation

weave there are threatened and this is not political for me in anyway i want our nation safe and secure. this way do not want to find these laws no bail laws, that's what i why i threw i went and while invading for people coming in this country and what background checks in my health checks and when the means test so you're not a financial burden on the american people. these are simple solutions in the american people also the political side of this out and 51 days but this has got to be top of mind issue. our safety, our security, our towns and cities in our border. i think americans need can happiness of you not safe and secure. the media has a job cover. media has not shown the video and they do not mention the names of the people that have been murdered and rates the victims about a minute think one of the most underreported

stories politically speaking of transitioning a little bit here. is the fact that kamala harris left donald trump in his word wall and said a bunch of terrorists are going to one end and maybe measuring we have hundreds of them in the country people from iran in syria and egypt in afghanistan and tens of thousands from china and russia and venezuela. they were in the country. we see the result of it but then she takes it a step further once free housing and healthcare education, and free change surgery for illegal immigrants and most americans do not know this yet, voting starts early as we can pennsylvania. now that is a disservice from the media that you covered joe, better than anybody to the entire country because america method going to have a really really fair choice in november, they need to know about this. i will make this challenge and for the record, when the biden

administration without get robert f kennedy jr. secret service protection, even though i disagree with robert f kennedy jr. in light of his family background, his uncle was murdered and his father was murdered, they were both assassinated, they did not him secret service protection for the longest time until after the shooting are and i've been advocating for him to get that and admitted after he supported donald trump, that was evening took the secret service protection away. that to me, they need a complete reevaluation of the political arena needs support. one other issue that is political that that will bring up, we need to re-examine what happened in the summer of 2020. when 570 prius and we had dozens of dead americans, with thousands of cops injured bricks of rocks and bottles, molotov

cocktails and we have billions of dollars in property damage and vice president tim walz not call in the national guard and opened up the windows of his family know what to smell burning rubber and the smell of freedom of or whatever he called in trento 40s after a police precinct in minneapolis was burned to the ground, she was out tweeting out the bill funded to let the rioters out of jail and then she goes on with colbert and said some of those writers won't stop and they should not stop and were not going to stop. where is liz cheney when you need or because the kind of sounds like writing an insurrection support and so i think these are political issues that i know you're going to be talking about the rest of the hour. >> we will for sure and just have one more question i am just wondering when is a reporter in a news conference earlier he said 25 of the super he entered reporting to the course bring up this was able to happen the show set he's on the sitting president of the city, everybody

gaps. alicia: this moment for president biden when he needs to for this onus is on him to go above and beyond all protocols make decisions about your 50 and 51 days away for the election at donald trump be super and the kind of protection he deserves. >> i think it's been a moment for them since butler and i think that they should have the common sense to get robert f kennedy jr. in light of what happened to his father coming in his uncle being assassinated, he deserves secret service protection there were a few of us that work outspoken, begging for it on his behalf even though i don't have a political agreement with him. a lot of issues. i think after butler, there was some improvement but how did somebody get within 300 yards donald trump with a scope ak-47.

and have will come within really seconds of assassinating him again. how is that possible. for those who know firearms and no rifles, that is not a difficult shot. the shunt and belmar pistol in the joe pointed out is a miracle that man is alive today. in his eric trump said how many more lives will my father have and how many more assassination attempts will he be able to withstand pretty this is beyond joe biden and kamala harris and they need the resources to cover the entire perimeter for every presidential candidate, every elected official at the highest level and that means that perimeters defined by any distance which somebody with a high-powered rifle ten reach target with a certain degree or

any degree of accuracy and they have got to do a better job, 30r anybody with a marginal marginal amount of skill and it is sad. >> thank you so much for joining us especially that everybody is doing okay today and thank you and speaking of vice president kamala harris just reacted to the second assassination attempt on donald trump we have lucas who is live in the white house with this new information. >> yes molly, taking a twitter vice president, harris said, i been briefed on reports of gunshots fired near former president trump and his property in florida and i'm glad that he is saved in the violence is no place in america. the fbi said that this is the second attempted assassination attempt against former president donald trump the last two months many reporters as you just

mentioned at least yet, were the question, why was in the perimeter more secure around trump international golf club and where the former president was playing around today and here's how the county sheriff answered that question. >> at this level, that is that right, he's not the sitting president nikki was, would have the entire of course read it but because he, the securities limited to the areas that the secret service deems possible. as why would imagine that the next time he comes on the golf course, there will probably be more people around the perimeter but the secret service did exactly what they should not. lucas: this with the secret service did 130 this afternoon come the secret service agent opened fire and when he saw under spot of the muzzle of a rifle sticking up from a chain-link fence surrounding the golf club in the agent fired up four — six shots was just one whole ahead of where trump is playing in expected to play through trump with and for all of the diamonds you heard from

sean hannity earlier never the secret service agent opened fired on the suspect fled in a black nissan suv, and left behind in ak-47 rifle, the scope and to backpacks with ceramic place essentially it's incredibly to find it body armor gopro camera also recovered the suspect was just 300-500 yards away from the former president is not a long distance when the scope is involved in just heard sean say the same thing at the suspect has been identified former fox news asked ryan wesley routh, another witnesses saw him flee nissan suv and took a photo quick action to the photo of the license plate and alerted the police that the suspect mr. ryan wesley routh was a nearby burning county to the north up traveling on i knew you d and i 95 news of the plates the backpacks recovered at the scene and you see the ak-47 style rifle recovered in

trump international golf club is just 12 minute drive from nearby palm beach and mar-a-largo of course with former president resigns just one half miles away is unclear how this potential assassin was tiptop. it was on any of the former presidents schedules and nobody knew that he was going to play except for his inner circle and of course the former president simply golf there's no secret there is just going out how this potential assassin was scoping out the former president and to be follow the motorcade how to mar-a-largo the of the club or was he already waiting there when the president teed up this afternoon. molly: rate questions great information we have so far as we get ready to continue asking more questions lucas thompson from the white house thank you. there are questions about security from the former president of person about how this happened a former fbi agent and fox news contributor nicole parker joining us now and nicole

thank you for your insights tonight as we have watched all of this unfolding a lot of the unanswered questions we are looking about the suspect. your insights and about what we know and what we can gather from them on site as they continue to go for the vehicle and seek more information. nicole: first of all been watching a programming and sean hannity a spot on and i don't know how many attempts his former president trump will take for them to realize he deserves the full amount of security possible. this is not acceptable and this cannot become the new normal and this is my concern is a so many people are like wealth is happen again and is happen again we cannot become known to this happening in this is president trump's life. and imagine his family and his love them and they have to go through this again. in the election we have time to go away and he has very much on people's radars we know this. mr. ray came out and talk about all of these threats and iran

has threats against president trump and we have local officials saying the president trump is a huge threat to democracy do you think that is going to embolden individuals not going to do whatever i have to do to get rid of you rhetoric and regardless of where you stand the political spectrum. minus is any political individual is not okay violence against any americans are located think we become numb to it because of many points that john him be made to, people point present work. it is extremely dangerous and in my specific incident come they mention you know what he did give morning helped as a result of what happened you know ju july 13th and where was that i live here south florida is that the fbi miami division and fitted off the golf course and then location, where he was, there is a bus stop literally a couple hundred feet from that golf course for any individual can go up to that chain-link

fence wherever it might be and is just not enough. ms. honor and respect the secret service agent was able to see that muzzle sticking through the fence enemy that is impressive and again coming from law enforcement and i can speak from personally spring some of the change a deadly force policy after the summer of 2020 coming in a really feel like they were giving less protection to the specifically the fbi agent pretty and i have this a similar sentiment likely throughout all of the law enforcement where if you were faced with eight attack at itasca threat, you do start double and triple get yourself am i authorized to use deadly force because now become a live force in the psych unit authorize viewpoint you charge me something happen quickly especially in the summer of 2020. so i have to say, thank you to the secret service agent thought to say say, this is an immediate threat and i need to take action now and if you will is called action versus reaction and we

need to backup our law enforcement and you never want to have to use deadly force when you don't have to but when it is justified, it is important to act in the potentially saved president trump's life. charlie: i was just kind of struck nicole, when luke lit under lucas thompson's report when he said a minute ago, small group of inner circle really people knew the president was playing golf today. your investigator is the fbi, this seems to me to be in place as you might start to try to get to the bottom up well who did know that he was playing today rates does an excellent question friendly, that's one of the questions i have listening to the recording is in the investigator i'm writing my own list of questions in this definitely on my list and i went out first of all, no rent at a few of the questions i have come first off is he talking or staying quiet with law

enforcement and whether know what he is saying, was that gopro active was activated or was it not in the social media accounts and what is the last post in what is his grievance why would he to do something like this and again that's for the social media accounts and talking to him and people who know him reading his text messages and e-mails digital footprint is powerful. the have that car, the vehicle in enforcement visible evidence is always very important but that qasem soleimani the digital footprint and platform entertainment system and the court will be extremely telling for law enforcement these types of investigations and work on te pipe bomb case in miami divisiod we immediately and have the vehe back to the field office miami division and you execute and execute a full search warrant, and there's one aspect that goes unnoticed when you are executed as the more intent i trust and i

know some very amazing fbi agents in miami division, this they mention that all resources will be offered in the evidence response team and others, they will be meticulously connecting this investigation. onion, who was this individual and how did he know point back to your original question about how do we know and was he from south florida or from the area or a different state to be fly and for this, that is extremely important to know and unde understand. onion president trump, he lives a high-pressure life and he is out there doing is valleys and out there, doing everything he can to work towards this election. he has the right to play golf, he is the right have a day of peace where he does not have to be going full throttle in full force and he should have the rights to play peacefully and rather golf this friends. what is our country come to come of that is now dangerous for him to be able to relax for even a

moment to play golf. we are literally fighting a battle between good and evil. i'm just going to tell you my side every day in the fbi and its of these individuals and they have no respect for human life. and going back to what was this person's grievance, why did they think that it was appropriate we just went through this on july 13th. they obviously thought well they weren't deterred by that they were not deterred even by this shooter, being killed. we thought well i'm still going to do this they obviously had a motive grievance that was so strong that they did not care and that to me is telling is chilly and dangerous. >> joe biden back on july 13 cut and had more protection the donald trump fit in butler pennsylvania despite being a far more coveted or a bigger target then joe biden is obviously and

so what is the process as far as who dictates how trump gets more protection given that there was already an assassination attempt on his life 64 days ago, now and then when hear. is it joe biden's call. who said that this person needs more protection and obviously because after two times, he clearly needs more. focus on from here. nicole: i agree and how many attempts doesn't think and said oh yes, we do know about the protection 12 what i believe, is that on july 13, president trump probably had the amount of coverage possible for the secret service upper level should keep in mind, could save all no no, we gave him protection yes we give him protection so they can check a box i think it was not when agent warned what they felt was necessary at a minimum to provide coverage. and i want to think that they

will give all of the resources possible in the bitter get the resources possible to president trump there's a threat assessment and you evaluating each individual one of the known threats, we all know a numerous amount there's so many threats come there more threats and local you know the civilians don't even know about law enforcement knows about some interest behind the scenes that are not even ever known to the general public and it is in the make a determination looking to cover it you will in this press conference they said well feed been a impressively coming he would've got a more protection. we just had to set an assassination attempt on july 13th and he's a former present beginning of the reevaluate i believe is coming from the upper level the secret service and guess who the secret service reports two, dhs mallorca that is the chain of command for secret service they go up through the ranks and i do think there's a shortage of law enforcement officers right now

the secret service is strapped is a high stress job with think their leadership has failed them and many rank-and-file ages are so frustrated they have to travel and any's agents and them have to work 60 days in a row with no rest in his high burnout so when you're not getting the level of support that you need to come up in the ages leave and so i think that that is a huge problem, that the shortstaffed only look into their firing, what is the quality of the agents of the secret service is bringing in i'm all about quality, not quantity if you happen to have a significant amount of quantity in order to do the job for anybody was at the president trump community to stop playing golf, i fully disagree with that he is a human being just like everybody else and he deserves the amount of respect and protection that is necessary to protect his life. and three threat assessment can see that he likely has more threats and pretty much anyone in the world right now. be my guest.

alicia: nicole, back to something you said earlier today on our air when you were talking about the fifth hole in the six oh house like he was mall close the location is to the interstate there just wondering coming feet you see that the suspect likely soft that this was a known opportunity point for him. >> right that was basically a soft target vulnerable location i think it is actually summative in the freeway obviously, west of i-95 and you go from palm beach then with the palm beaches morning county which is where the individual fled but i think it's important to note that there is a must stop printing simple, there's a bus stop and avoided tell you exactly, and south congress avenue them, it is approximately 2205 feet from the bus stop, this golf course is this very close. the seder's hedges they don't

protect going to protect you from around that they fired at you from they entered gay and is imported they go say well he is not the current presidency not going to get the same level of protection and frankly i believe president trump probably has moe threats than her current president and again, i don't make those choices so that's really up to the secret service will have to answer that i get the reports into the dhs and they report into president joe biden sina thank you nicole, appreciate all of your insight. nicole: my pleasure see that they were pointing the gun at tim walz 40500 yards away about one quarter of a mile the spring and fall former nypd inspector x news contributor provide fault to say that this is just sort of really important to focus on this one thing in the idea that there was an agent on the golf course it was looking across the golf course, and

chain link fence and there are a couple of like some of these pictures a couple of bags, when that headache gopro get it and one had ceramic tile senate and he sees a couple of inches of a short-barreled ak-47, sticking through the chain link fence then realizes what is in any do something about it. that's amazing police work in my goodness, like how fortunate. >> yes we are looking there's no denying it and early on as we are, this is a bureaucratic failure by the individual success. because, bureaucratically, there's no way pursuit in this kind of a whole in the security around donald trump, and is including wit nicole just me that point that many of the other commentators, the protection that you get is a vip, the secret service or from the nypd or new york or any city if you are doing protective

service, is you have to have protection commensurate with the threat, not your role okay, so if you the mayor's leading a lot of threats, they need to increase your protection if you donald trump of you been shot out, if you have the credit directed at him, you need to increase the protection predict that is just common sense and when you consider that we spent roughly also about $48 billion on her porous southern border, to know i feel, policeman 3.8 billion the latest budget for the secret service coming it is hard to see the money is going and where it is not. and i would argue that this is something that is again has been points been made, bureaucratically at the chain is where you really need to look for the culprits here and you know the scope beyond alejandro mayorkas nobody gets fired and who has firing power, our president and where is he. >> on that note, there is been some interesting differences

between the teams of the ground. in this team today get the picture of the vehicle, they got the vehicle rapidly they communicated months of self he was taken into custody swiftly. >> so the response coming it looks to have been really really effective it looks like it was good coordination between westfall between the secret service and according to the story were getting him and that was witness there to i bought him took photos of the car and took photos of the play, that's the key point) think god for that witness and think about with this light, you're in a patrol car is a sleepy sunday and you're not expecting much all of a sudden it comes over the four shots fired at donald trump's golf course and you can imagine the adrenaline rush and everybody goes to the scene and the services there and you have the protecting you don't know it's going on. and yet it worked in the got the facts best held onto the witness and they got the information into the license plate reader. they immediately were able to track the car and got a hold of

the other conjoining sheriff's office. the medially got on the car stop and call the day family stop certain procedures to make sure there's not a shootout enters at the gun was left at the scene but they know that looks like the right guy. that is pretty seamless okay, that have been fast. and you know what where this guy resided he's not from the area rights we don't know if he was doing pre- surveillance to pick up worries up on sunday that's all going to be looking up as you know at the time, they don't know with her getting into, is a car booby-trap or somebody is not part thompson remember the boston bombing okay. so i sit therefrom nypd, mike tyson those guys are throwing bombs out the back of the truck and so give no idea what you getting into this level. so if this point, i think that we can say very good response a well coordinated and kudos to the team responded on the ground and you need to go back to the aspect of this, should happen begin with sue met paul, if you

were handling the security for donald trump not do outdoor rallies, golf and i do not agree. i say the guy should be able to do what he wants to do and golf do outdoor rallies to get this week at the big crowds of your running securities, would you sing this point given to assassination attempt left nine weeks, would you say mr. president let's keep it indoors and let's keep it in the secure location and what would you do sina that's a safe answer learning the detail i say that to him and i would fully expect to get to know that. safer for me to say well mr. president to be favor only the basement okay much like the biden compete in 2020, let's read biden campaign and can you stay inside mar-a-largo so i can sleep at night but i would not expect a little trump to hear that were shooting about the idea that with the resources of the american government, we can protect one human being, and everybody else is a lot of people who want to take him out and they're afraid he will went,

that is what is driving this look is a little bit of a leap but is some point, walks like a duck and talks like a duck, they are afraid he will win this to assassination attempts, this accident. >> i'm curious what would happen tomorrow because after july 13th, and belmar, knowing the secret service came to talk to the american people to clarify anything, so in the boy come up with it we find conspiracy theories lots of questions and also subproblems tremendous amount of reporting. when i'm curious about is if we will see the acting director of the secret service, tomorrow. molly: the american people and reassure them that they are trying to handle things of that things are handled anything like that. >> i'm go higher than that and then i would like to hear from alejandro mayorkas, he's been mia on the border and he was mia at butler listing a piece of the butler event director sheetal head of the secret service and

now alejandro mayorkas has to designated national security that okay, and the warranty was designated that many of those and i was designated okay for the secret service, the super bowl in director sheetal was in aspen and when the event happening that we can she was scheduled to give a speech in aspen that wednesday she was there for the week with our whole team as the head of the hs in response over the secret service and did you sign up on that you did not, aren't you concerned about the fact that your people running over the country when were about have the rnc and ask yourself this, should she have done that if the d&c would he have not looked into the fact that he said secret service for the rnc and is mia with the mountains of aspen to give a speech unacceptable but as usual, never gets fired and she believes in you know what, this is nonpartisan because i don't want

to see a tip for cat with some cooper the right said were going to do this to you but both sides and we need confident protection for people in public life and yet these failures continue nobody answers for them. >> really appreciated thank you. >> thank you right now the fbi's collecting evidence outside of trump international golf club in most population 20 is now jason keep its former utah comes in fox news contributor jason connected network site of the secret service during his time on capitol hill and so jason, your thoughts and we see here again it's talking this country has to endure this once again, the second assassination attempt and 64 days of the former president by possibly the next president of the united states come your thoughts. jason: praise to the agents to do the work there on the ground

from the took care of the president and extracted him in the person who actually takes a shot and were still learning about him the secret service, that's a hard thing to do but you see a gun pointed towards the president you take on your weapon you start the fire that's really what happened, hats off to the percent going to you, this is another complete failure. although we get into this position. the idea that there is a witness who sees a guy come out of the bushes and he goes and gets into the car if that is the complete set of facts, i just has the of mind to take a picture, getting a license plate that they can then, put into the license plate reader and are you kidding me, that's the extent of the service that they are doing some economic with uniform officer out there and you cannot have home be sure father a secret service agent out there and we got lucky again as paul has said, and if i did not happen, we would not know where the shooter was would be shooter was

and so it is a complete failure one of the note about the secret service, we love the men and women who want to serve they are being they are not being let go, secretary alejandro mayorkas is the point person in the one that makes the decisions on who gets protection and does that and it is the protection does not and he is in charge of billions of dollars in a totally completely on sec. alejandro mayorkas at this point you have an acting director, that means that the secretary has to taken elevated role in doing that and there feeling at this and the secret service not only protects the protect these come the protecting the united states of america. that is the mission. haven't for bits on the cabinets of one of the protect these, this nation it's in peril so they were for the united states of america not just to protect the protect fee, they have to understand that mission and they

have got to other game because we should never ever how to be in this position, just 60 days after the last shooting. >> okay jason, charlie here so this week later this week, and this is something that you have spent some of your life doing as well. newsweek congress will be releasing this report that we are told is going to be shocking in the failures of the secret service pretty and you heard anything or what are you expecting to come about and how well this sort of hold into all of that. >> why think there's going to be five curious you going to look at recruit and the lack of recruitment, the workload the secret service is doing because they are more than a thousand pages shy were they are at entering he is abysmal, they do not get nearly 20 hours that they are supposed to and communications were off the chart bad not only with local law enforcement, but the communication within the ranks

of what they are trying to do. all of the things were a complete failure. they've got to have a degree of creativity. the shooter was created in butler company got plain kamala white roof this person goes into the bushes, was a gun through a fence in close proximity to the present, that was a terribly creative what if you had somebody that was created with there were three or four shooters that decided to descend on this and then what we think that hopefully there was a witness out there with a mobile phone will take a picture really, that's what were doing in this level. the problem is that i went through this with the secret service, ten years ago and not changed. the fundamental problem and they have not solve any of these problems and that is on sec. alejandro mayorkas and joe biden and on kamala harris and they are the ones in charge, they are the weather should been instituting these changes.

>> the american people have been through so much this summer and we have already seen congressional hearings from jul. we got some answers but there still so many questions were supposed to get more answers no hundred i'm going to be good this coming week and you have to assume will have more congressional hearings we are 50 and 51 days in the auction. how are the american people supposed to feel confident at this point, any of these candidates will be safe. >> i don't in one of the report says that the person was in charge had actually failed there a sale. to be in this leaders position so how much does di landed this and and i think that's a very legitimate question. i'm not jumping to a conclusion better people will i will tell you that i know for a fact, that the secret service was putting people out to do protective work that did not pass a security

background check and how can that happen. i know there uniformed ages out there in the division that go out to their job and do not have a radio. how are they supposed to do their job. and so i need to tell you that i do not have the confidence and that is what is scary about this and they should give the president trump and his family by the way, the same level of protection they do the president of the united states. he deserves that and he needs a threat level demands it that's exactly what they should be doing. >> jason, molly here. molly: we are talking about president trump and his family of course and the near victimization that have near a political rally of the summer there was a man killed and two others injured and there was a golf partner in the golf course today with the former president and there are people all the rent him. and what about the danger tina people want to go to political valleys in america now what is

essay about our country this should be protection that level. >> clearly if you do an indoor event and if you put a security shield rather presented come over they can go through magnetometer, that is the most safe sinner that you can but i am a huge fan dogs and bomb sniffing dogs and you telling me that you can put a few dogs out in front of the president to go around the perimeter to see if there's anybody hiding in the bushes, you can use the infrared and there's all kinds of technology but again the secret service, they haven't sunset by billions of dollars in the not been able to do this to you donald trump coast of that place regularly at they should know how to secure it. donald trump deserves the opportunity to go up to the public so does jd via and tim to visit his joe biden somehow he can hang out to the beach and

they have a secure so somehow they've gotta be able to figure out how to do this because are given billions of dollars to make this happen and they are not doing yet. >> thank you would appreciate your insight here in fashion and that would be the would-be assassin was one quarter mile away from president trump 300 — five in yours former secret service agent joining us now and richard, to jason's point, we have a hundreds of tears that have entered this country through our southern border and that is for joe biden's own dhs. in addition of more than 12 million people that are unfettered and so jason think the point come up with if this was three or four shooters and what if this was a team effort in the secret service protective former president went he golfs her out an rally if you have not one shooter my three or four shooters and what you do to show

the american people that this cannot happening yet in any capacity. >> will the answer to that joe, no you can't as evidenced by the last two incidences today and when humans ago the secret service in the palm and security supplier not taking president trump seriously and he needs to be afforded the level of protection from the level of assets, manpower and resources, that are afforded to the sitting president of the united states. to continue to pursue president trump is that he's just another former present or a candidate, simply is not working. this is not just for president trump's sake the somebody who just mention a few minutes ago, that is for all of the people around him not just one guy and i believe you asked a few minutes ago, to the secret service recommend the president trump not go out to the public anymore as you know playful anymore, he asserted that is no, hit is not the job of the secret service to tell protective

pretty gleason but you may become the next president of the united states, that he cannot go somewhere. is a job of the secret service to secure that he met and secure that building, secure that site to the utmost of their limits that they possibly can and is simply is not being done and inspector when he describes the bureaucratic fiasco and yes souls the leadership of the secret service and the leadership specifically sec. alejandro mayorkas and they are not taking it seriously and they're not importing president trump the level of security that is worthy that the secret service should be given for legally in light of the fact that his agency with a $3.6 billion budget, these people doing and where are the guys and where did this money go what is being used for enough of the production of the leading candidate, the next president of the united states. >> richard, jason was talking about this was not particularly creative and we look at this

would be snipers there with a couple of bags and again and slime. is there a certain aspect here that even the most predictable possibilities are being taken care of. >> yes, the most basic kinds of what the secret service should be doing begun by the wayside, whether is not putting a human on top of a roof that is 150 years later nonemployee dog walking fence line of that golf course, that the president has been through probably a million times previously since leaving office and virtually admitted that golf course many times as i know the layout of the place like the back of my hand. to not have dogs on the outside, not have manpower on the other side of the fence, to not have street shut down, why did no one check the brush lying to make sure nobody was in the bushes. that is most basic things in this not something you see the movie, this is not something that requires you know years of planning and his sniper

training. the guy was lying in the bushes with an ak-47. that should've been on the forefront of everyone's mind, some recently walks up to the fence and highs in the bushes. nearly nobody asked the question which leaves me to ask one of these guys doing. >> just to pick up on the conversation you're having with molly here from the sheriff's in the news conference today, that's rubbery somebody can get in and out of their easily without being seen. this seems like something he could've seen ahead of time. >> that's exactly right and i know for a fact and i agree with that sheriff, because my somebody was a little guy would crawl underneath of the bushes and retrieve golf balls live a seven -year-old can do that, there's a reason that assyria cannot play out exactly like it did today. but somewhere along the line, the secret service is broken, why these very basic situations are being played out are not be

the basic situations that is i security survey should be built around, is beyond me. this speaks to the lack of leadership and foresight on behalf of the senior leadership at the u.s. secret service know people are being allowed to resign with impunity. i would happen today what happened to month ago, people just going to be afforded the opportunity to simply walk away from the job we know professions inches this is absolutely unacceptable. >> we thank you richard so much for your expertise today and appreciated in the second hour a big weekend show, against right now. >> how far away was the president was donald trump when this gentleman was caught? >> are probably between three and 500 yards. both the rifle and a scope like that, that is not a long distance. >> hello everyone i'm moll