to your point they missed the whole thing. they started with a 25 bases point rate hike then 50 the next time. then they went 75. it tells you 75 is so unusual. that's a monster rate cut or hike. in this case a hike. behind the eight ball. i'm worried they could be again right now on the other side. >> steve: a lot of people say they waited too long to do it. >> exactly. >> steve: fox business will have commercial free special fed coverage from 1:00 to 4:00 this afternoon. making money will have the fed decision at 2:00. you said that comes up on wednesday with the powell pressers and charles' analysis as well. >> everyone should watch. it will be huge. >> steve: that will wrap up "fox & friends" for this very busy monday. now let's turn it over to "america's newsroom." >> how far away was the president?

how far away was donald trump when this gentleman was caught and stopped? >> probably between three and 500 yards. but with a rifle and scope like that, that's not a long distance. >> bill: not a long distance at all. it happened yet again nearly anyway for the second time in two months. the f.b.i.'s investigating what appears to be an attempt to assassinate former president donald trump. moments ago we learned more about the acting head of the secret service. he just pulled into mar-a-lago and have a meeting with the former president and then we'll let you know what we're learning about the suspect in custody in a local jail. it is monday. good morning. hope you had a good weekend. we're off and running on a significant story again with the election around the corner. >> dana: i'm dana perino. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. it's monday. >> dana: always, jumping on him. i'm dana perino an this is "america's newsroom." so we have a big show for you.

we're waiting for live events and keep you updated. let's get you up to speed. this happened yesterday at trump international golf club in west washing machine beach. the president was golfing. the secret service spotted the muzzle of a gun through a fence and ab agent opened fire. authorities pulled him over and arrested him. >> bill: he is ryan routh age 58, lives in hawaii. arrest record that spans for decades. more on that in a moment here. >> dana: the former president is striking a defiant tone and tells reporters i'm safe and well. nothing will slow me down and i will never surrender. the incident is enraging lawmakers who say they want accountability. >> we now have multiple assassination attempts in a matter of months. >> it is evident that we need the highest level of resources assigned to be on his detail and protecting him. >> there is no way in hell that somebody should have been that

close to president trump with an ak-47 or whatever it was with a scope. >> dana: team fox coverage. rich edson and chad pergram stand by. let's go to dana marie mcnicholl live from west palm beach. good morning. >> good morning. as this active investigation continues here outside trump international golf course we're learning more about ryan routh who has an extensive presence on social media posting multiple times about the former president. according to public records, 58-year-old routh had at least 100 run-ins with police. he made his opinions very clear on x where he posted about former president trump. the war on ukraine, the 2020 election and other world events. his account even weighed in on the former president trump's assassination attempt back in july calling on vice president kamala harris to visit those injured at the pennsylvania trump rally saying quote trump will never do anything for them,

end quote. now routh currently lives in hawaii after spending the majority of his life in north carolina where he worked in construction including owning a company called united roofing. the palm beach county sheriff said they're looking into his flight schedule and how he traveled to get here in florida. right now they say routh is not talking to law enforcement. a witness saw routh run from the golf course bushes and jump into a black nissan yesterday and pulled over on i-95 in martin county. >> made the stop and then gun point ordered him out of the vehicle. he complied. his demeanor was perplexing in some ways. despite the fact that we had numerous people out with rifles, unformed personnel, helicopter. >> no charges have been filed just yet. we expect that's the next step. we're also looking for details about whether he could possibly be in court. we are hearing this morning that

the active director of the secret service is on the ground at the golf course and walk through of the site shortly. >> dana: thank you. >> bill: want to take our viewers down there and give you a lay of the land on this golf course. this is hole four, five, six, the northeast corner of the course the gunman was behind the bush and fence here. a major road called congress. a sliver of a road that runs this way. if you are familiar with the area. if our viewers have played this course before, this is the main entrance here, massive american flag which is typical for trump courses. this is the first hole that goes out here. why am i indicating all this stuff? because just on the northern edge of this course right here, that's the county jail. and when you are on this course, you can't see the lower levels of any of the buildings you see from the aerial picture but you can hear the inmates depending time of day. maybe lunch time you can hear them on the course here. right now ironically routh is

being held by authorities in this jail directly across from the golf course. right near just about 100 or 200 yards from where he took up his position. here is the golf club here. if you go east ten minutes you hit mar-a-lago. a short drive across the intercoastal. i-95 up into martin county where the suspect was apprehended yesterday around 2:30 in the afternoon. this is the nissan s.u.v. pulled over there in martin county. let's bring in a former secret service agent. keith, what are we to make two times, two months, they got him this time. what do you think? >> bill and dana thank you for for having me on. a weird experience. 63 days after we have a second attempt and everyone is calling

for the head of the service. ron rowe going down to mar-a-lago to talk to the former president and then on top of that we need to think this is a success. what they did is what they were supposed to do. the way the security plan played out and enacted and it was mitigated. so i believe that the secret service did a fantastic job in identifying the rifle in a difficult situation and then enacted tried to mitigate it immediately. and then having that bystander, the individual that took the photo of the plate and identified it, that was an act of god. amazing they did that. really helped law enforcement. >> dana: i thought about the eyewitness so quick thinking. this is different than the first time around because this suspect lives, lives to tell the tale. one of the things about the secret service right now is this question of trump is not the

president but he is the candidate, the former president. do you think that secret service would benefit from him being told, maybe given the resources by congress, to ratchet up the protection? >> that's a great question, dana. going back to when president obama was first running for president, it was -- they looked at the risk tolerance and identified what risks had while doing the campaign. that needs to be done again. what happened here. we have actual protection i guess attacks in a sense. we need to identify do we need to go ahead and up the protection for both candidates at this point? we need to look at that and need to take a look and see where the vulnerabilities are. does this qualify? it qualifies for an investigation to make sure candidates are safe. the future of american. we need to make sure we keep these candidates safe. >> bill: so we have some video

just now we can roll it when red'. ronald rowe acting head of secret service rolling into mar-a-lago. what's the meeting all about? this is what we saw, the update we have and this is what we will do for you starting now? >> exactly. i think you are spot on with that. this is the show i am in charge of this, i have this by the grip and i will make sure this investigation is done completely with the f.b.i. and protective intelligence and everything they saw. this is more of a confidence booster for former president trump and the american people to say the secret service is back. we've got this. taking this under control. we were successful at this. this happened how it laid out in plan and we'll move forward. that's what director rowe will do today >> dana: "wall street journal" said this donald trump in the crosshairs against.

secret service can't be seen as failing to protect the candidates. it could lead to further violence. the country and president biden can't afford to tempt fate again. what kind of moment this is right now for the secret service? >> this is it. we all ask we want another chance. not necessarily another chance like this. we want to prove ourselves. this is what this is all about to say we're in control. we understand we were successful at this. this happened according to our plan and now we will show you that you should have confidence in the secret service. director rowe is doing the right thing by being there, briefing the former president and going there probably make a public statement what is going on and the next steps. >> bill: the questions i wrote down. where did he get the motivation? how did he know trump would be there on that day? we're waiting for answers on that. the sheriff was on last hour with brian and i thought he posed a lot of interesting questions. did he have a place to stay?

how did he travel? did he come from north carolina or did he come much further than that? and where did the gun come from? keith, these are all questions that we need answers for hopefully today. will we get them? >> i agree 100%. when you look at any threat to a president or protectee they have to have three things. one, the capability to travel. two, was there a threat made. and three, actual traveling. this person has all three of those. so you will see exactly what happened here. my question really is how long was this individual there? because they do periodic sweeps. there are things going around, the service does. i would like to see if there is a way to find out when did this guy burrow down in that area. to me it looks like he just got there and may have been setting up some things with the plates on the fence and the gopro, but i would like to find out that. i think that plays a big part into the security of the entire environment. >> dana: can i ask a dumb

question? sometimes my specialty. the ceramic tiles in his bag. what would those have been for? >> for protection. the service fired back it would his thought the bullets would be stopped so he had protection or barricade or some type of bullet proof area so he wound be shot. he wasn't looking to get killed but do harm to someone else. >> bill: thank you for jumping on with us here. we'll await more answers throughout the day. thank you for your expertise, keith. >> dana: we'll have much more on this with the leaders of the trump assassination attempt task force. chairman mike kelly and jason crowe will give their reaction to yesterday's events. >> bill: in the meantime you have a lot of other news now. the interest on our national -- posing a ticking financial time bomb. how long until the fuse sets it off in this election cycle. >> dana: abbott talking about

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>> dana: president biden is departing the white house a few moments ago and he commented on the second assassination attempt on former president trump. it is hard to hear it because he was talking over the helicopter but rich edson is live at the white house and has more about what biden said. could you catch anything, rich? >> a little bit there, dana. he left a couple of minutes ago and as the helicopter in the background he said thank god the

president is okay. the one thing i want to make clear is the secret service needs more help and thinks congress should step up and do that. he says now secret service is deciding whether they need more personnel. these are the first comments that we have heard from president biden on the attempted assassination of former president trump. there were statements yesterday from the president and vice president. we heard from president biden, quote, i'm relieved the former president is unharmed. there is no place for political violence or for any violence ever in our country and directed my team to continue to insure that secret service has every resource, capability and protective measure necessary to insure the former president's continued safety. he doubled down on that this morning. the vice president said i am deeply disturbed by the possible assassination attempt of former president trump. as we gather the facts, i will be clear, i condemn political violence. we all must do our part to insure that this incident does not lead to more violence. the secret service is

responsible for protecting the president and presidential candidates. it is under scrutiny after the first assassination attempt against former president trump in july in butler, pennsylvania. secret service director cheatle resigned after that. biden is on his way to wilmington, delaware and then philadelphia addressing the conference of black colleges and universities. the vice president is off to teamsters union headquarters in washington, d.c. to pitch them for her endorsement of her candidacy. >> bill: want to bring in paul mauro and charlie hurt. good morning. paul, a ton of questions. i thought the sheriff said a few things. he is not talking and he did not fire a shot. apparently this came from the secret service. the backpacks, gopro camera, ceramic plates for bullet protection. what do you make of it? >> bill: let's go to the back to the sheriff. strange commentary from the

sheriff. a good idea to have a press conference fast to tamp down conspiracy theories. we didn't get it in butler. the sheriff spoke for the secret service and said something about he is not a sitting president so, you know, this is the only detail that he gets. this is enough at the time. etc. , etc. strange not coming from the service. i don't know what to make of that because the allotment of protection you get is generally not based upon your role, etc. it is based upon the level of the threat. the threat assessment. you have to have protection commensurate with the threat. this guy is a significant target. they tried him once. i don't know what it takes for the service and the police in the area, the sheriff's office, to say we have to up the cordon around president trump. if this guy could find him, others could find him and he did. you have to say so yourself, how did he know where trump would be?

was he able to put trump on the x there. they will dump the car and look at his travel. the car is a rental? he is not from the area. was the car there for a month and has the been around mar-a-lago and for the month and sur wiling president trump? if he picks up and goes right to the location you have to say to yourself, that looks more nefarious, how did he know? >> dana: the state of florida will do an investigation at the same time that the federal government does it because apparently there is just concern by some that there is just not enough going on in terms of the f.b.i. and secret service giving enough answers. >> that was a smart move by governor desantis. there was pressure before he made the announcement for him to do that is a pretty grim picture of where we are in all of this in the first place. the idea for the second time in a row we're going -- it is luck, pure luck is going to be what

saves us from a tragedy and the idea that something like this is going to happen again and it was a bystander who happened to watch the guy run away. it doesn't give people much confidence. >> bill: he has a number of social media postings. one on april 22nd on x wrote in part. democracy is on the ballot. we cannot lose and afford to fail. the world is counting on us to show the way. there is more to that. michael waltz is a republican out of florida and said this. >> this rhetoric against president trump. the narrative that he will be the next dictator, that he is the next hitler, it has got to stop. enough is enough. if you truly care about our democracy, as you say you do, let democracy play out with the voters and knock off this rhetoric. one person has already been killed in butler, pennsylvania, and but for the actions of one secret service agent today,

there might have been more. >> bill: i don't know how you gentlemen interpret that. >> obviously there has been an institutional failure here again. as i said last night, this was a bureaucratic failure but an individual success because thank god we had the one secret service officer who was on point. the bottom line is nothing seems to have changed since butler. nothing seems to have been looked at and revised in that period. it's only getting hotter getting closer to the election and this comes down to a failure of leadership. it goes all the way to the top. >> bill: there is a known and reported and public story that iran has -- they want to take action. so that's part of this mix, too. and the feds know it. >> absolutely. when you have a wide open border where you have people coming across the border that you don't know who they are or where they are from you increase the threat of that 1,000 fold. i also think it is interesting the reason we know this guy is a

whacko is because he is saying all these whacko things that he got from people who are politicians who are running campaigns. obviously crazy people won't go away because you get rid of politicians. for god sake it's imperative we run campaigns based on real issues and stop calling somebody hitler when he is not hitler. talk about dog whistles. it is a dog whistle the crazy people. nobody wanted this to happen but it is imperative on all of us, but especially politicians and elected officials to actually talk about things that matter and actually run adult campaigns. because if you do, then the whacko people aren't going to get attracted to it. but sadly that's where our politics is today. we have all of this insane rhetoric from the president and the vice president and, you know, i suppose people -- some

people on both sides of the aisle. but it is really glaring right now from democrats. >> dana: a suspect like this, paul, likely to talk? >> that's the big question. the story now is that he is not talking, etc. but i wouldn't be surprised if he does because things like this are ideologically driven by terrorism, for instance. as i said last night, very often these guys -- the problem is not getting them to talk but to shut up. they want to get their manifesto out and want to talk, talk, talk. it is hard to steer them and get to the nut of what you are trying to ascertain. i wouldn't be surprised at some point he talks. i wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't talk all the way to trial and starts talking at trial and makes it a big show. they want to get their message out and their day in the sun. we could see that or we couldn't. it is hard to tell. bottom line is, nothing has changed since butler, nobody seems to be in charge. no press conferences from mayorkas.

i would like to see right now somebody fired because this is insane. one of the main candidates for the highest office in our land now has survived two assassination attempts and nobody seems to think we did much wrong here. >> bill: on the docket there is no press conference planned. that will change. at what time and what point we don't know and who leads it we'll wait and see. thank you. paul mauro and charlie hurt. >> dana: live pictures from west palm beach as former president trump is once again the target of an assassination attempt. the investigation into the first shooting is still ongoing. the two lawmakers on the task force are here. >> he is the most attacked and threatened probably more than when he was in the oval office. we're demanding in the house that he have every asset available and make more available if necessary. i don't think it is a funding issue, i think it's a manpower allocation.

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>> dana: we've just learned something that we've been waiting to hear. we assumed this but can confirm ryan routh, the suspect being held in custody for the attempted assassination of donald trump as his golf course will be in federal court at 10:00 a.m. we'll have that for you live down there at the courthouse in palm beach. >> bill: a lot of developments coming in every couple minutes here. the house speaker mike johnson, he was talking earlier today. he met with the former president in florida yesterday hours after the second attempt on his life. gave a long interview today. this morning on "fox & friends" and chad pergram has a bit more about what he said. chad is on the hill and hello to you and what are you hearing in washington? >> bill, good morning. bipartisan lawmakers are baffled and angry at two assassination attempts on the life of former president trump in two months. lawmakers are worried about the heightened threat environment just before the election.

>> all i can say is this is we have to up our game and we need to clean house in terms of leadership. the protective detail are great americans. if we don't change the way we protect our senior officials, we're making a mistake. the threat levels. >> democratic leaders condemn the attacks but some republicans blame the left for toxic language. >> this rhetoric against president trump, this narrative that he will be the next dictator, that he is the next hitler, it has got to stop. enough is enough. stop it on the left. >> bill: >> waltz is a member of the task force investigating the shooting in july. lawmakers were briefed by ronald rowe late last week.

house speaker mike johnson pins the blame on the department of homeland security which oversees the secret service. >> i think there are some really patriotic, great people working in the secret service. but it is the leadership. i have no faith in secretary mayorkas, department of homeland security. he is an abject failure. >> the house impeached mayorkas but it never went anywhere in the senate. a report about the july shooting is due from the secret service soon. >> bill: we have more now with dana on that. >> dana: the house panel investigating the trump assassination attempt released this. we have requested a briefing with the u.s. secret service about what happened and how security responded remain deeply concerned about political violence and condemn it in all of its forms. joining us now chairmen of house assassination attempt task force, thank you for being here and thank you for cooperating on

this. get one, protection for the candidates and also helping get answers. mike kelly, you can't hear me. jason crow, tell us about your reaction yesterday as the butler investigation is still underway. >> mike and i condemn this most recent attempt is what it looks like. political violence has no place in our country. republicans and democrats must come together and say this is unacceptable. this should never happen. you don't need to be one side of a party or another to condemn this. we settle our issues with debate and discourse in america. we really have to focus on that and every leader needs to be very clear about it. >> dana: congressman kelly the "new york post" headline says why hasn't the secret service given trump the security he plainly merits? do you have an answer for that? >> well, the only answer i can give you is the answer that as

jason and i have listed last thursday, they claim they don't have enough personnel that they can put in place. going forward, i think we're at a point where it's not about republicans and democrats. this is about america. we have reached a point now where the rhetoric has hit a fever pitch and when we look at the similarities first of all. the event in butler was a public event. we had 25,000, 30,000 people. when the president is playing golf at trump international, how does that shooter know the president will be there that day in butler everybody knew he was coming. and the preparation was not put in place that should have been put in place. now we go to florida and he has secret service around him but not a public event. the question is how do these people, whoever these shooters are, how do they make a decision to act that way on that day? it is completely different but it is the same idea.

>> dana: congressman crow, what do you think about ron desantis, the governor of florida, saying the florida government will also conduct an investigation at the same time? >> well dana, there is always multiple investigations that occur under these issues. pennsylvania, for example, the state and local officials are doing their postmortems and reviews of what happened, just like the secret service did theirs. here is how i look at this issue, dana. we have to actually ask a couple of key questions. the first question is were protocols followed? did secret service and local law enforcement in either of these instances do what they were supposed to do? if the answer to that is yes and actually in butler we think the answer to that is no, but we don't have enough information about this incident yet. if the answer to that is yes the next question is are there enough resources to get the job done? when we have a heightened threat environment where the threats against members of congress has

quadrupled, threats against presidential candidates skyrocketed. a current and former president and we have all their families and all the vice presidential candidates. the secret service told us clearly last week that they are red lined. they are working overtime overtime. double overtime. these folks are burning out. they need new resources. we need to get them help so they can do the job that the american people expect them to do. >> dana: i will let you comment on that in a moment, congressman kelly. this is what rick bradshaw and how he thought the secret service did. >> the golf course is surrounded by shrubbery, they are out of sight. at this level that he is at right now, he is not the sitting president. if he was, we would have had this entire golf course surrounded. because he is not the security is limited to the areas the

secret service deems possible. but the secret service did exactly what they should have done, provided exactly what the protection should have been. >> dana: how do you see that, congressman kelly? do they need more resources or change how they protect the former president? >> okay, when you heard jason talking i think we're of the same mind on this. the way they were deployed is what it comes down to. the fact that president trump was a former president but now is the candidate for the presidency this fall, shouldn't there be a greater coverage of that situation? i keep going back to is we keep hearing they don't have enough men and money and i think that's true, by the way. how that money is deployed needs to be taken a look at. in these cases, dana, one was a very public event at butler on july 13th. when you look at yesterday's attempt, this was a private -- the former president going out

golfing. how in the world do we get to the point we have shooters at both places, one who knows about it because it is public and another who shows up at the event where the former president of the united states is in a private golf outing event with a couple of friends? that's an entirely different venue. secret service did a great job yesterday but in butler, and i think jason and i agree, the preparation for that event came up very short and was homeland security that has jurisdiction over secret service. who is talking to whom about what and what is it that they're talking about who will be protected that day? hard for me to understand we could have shooters at both places, one a very public event and one a very private event and both people knew what was going on that day and able to do something we can't have happen again. >> dana: those are important distinctions and similarities. congressman, i thank you both.

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>> bill: here we go. stand by. 14 minutes away, ryan routh, lived most recently in hawaii. how he got to florida and when he got there we don't know. he will be in federal court at 10:00 a.m. eastern time. top of the hour here and we'll track that momentaryly. >> dana: excited to have the

next guest. free press reporter who spoke to the suspect last year in a video interview on march 7, 2023. when this happened and his name came out and maybe saw the photo when did you realize i talked to him? >> i got a call from ben smith, editor and chief last night when he told me that remember the guy that you interviewed last year for your story? turns out he is now in custody and been identified as the suspect and would be assassin of the former president and that's when it clicked for me. that's what happened. >> dana: did you remember him? >> i instantly remembered him. he was a very colorful personality when i interviewed him. i was working on a story about the u.s. trained elite afghan commanders who wanted to join the ukraine war effort. he created the international volunteer legion, a liaison between international fighters who wanted to join and ukrainian defense ministries and other

government organizations doing a lot of work for them. he traveled to ukraine and lived there for five months. so he was a source from inside ukrainian government gave me his contact info as one of the most active volunteers working in this area. >> bill: what was he doing in washington, d.c.? >> he was -- what he told me is he was meeting with some unidentified lawmakers to try to push sort of more -- push the united states government to, you know, ease the path for international volunteers to come to ukraine. >> bill: did he actually have meetings with lawmakers? >> not that i'm aware of. but he was at the capitol for that reason, he told me, in the interview. >> dana: how did you find his demeanor at the time? >> he seemed off. if you look at the video interview you can -- it looks like it is a scene out of a cohen brothers movie. he seems distraught but at the same time he wasn't even the

most colorful of the person amounts i spoke to as part of the story. if you are working in this area. >> dana: did he express any political views to you? >> he did not except he supported the ukrainian cause. he was really pushing for the u.s. to do more to help ukraine. beyond that, he did not express any political. >> bill: i don't know if it was your interview last night. if it was, tell me. he was dressed in red, white and blue outfits. was that your interview? >> i did a video with him and he appears for a couple of minutes but the back drop of the u.s. capitol. >> bill: this must have been different. he supported ukraine, he supported taiwan. i believe he supported the palestinians. what was -- what does he believe? >> i am not entirely certain. i actually wasn't following much him afterwards. he was a source for one of the

stories that i did and i corroborated his identity. i never talked to him again. i didn't even know until last night about his political affiliations. >> bill: tanya, we'll try to make sense of it together. even you as an individual who spoke to him and you are still a little confounded, it appears. >> absolutely. as i said, he never struck me as a would be assassin of a former president. he seemed like a little overzealous and supporting a cause. >> bill: we'll find out who he was talking to and who was talking to him. there is a bit of other news now. never mind paying off the principle. interest rates alone on the national debt topping a trillion dollars putting uncle sam deeper in the red. big news from the fed in two days. now we have edward lawrence to take us through this. good morning. >> you were talking about $1

trillion to pay the interest on the debt. it is not actually bringing down the debt. in fact, the u.s. government will spend $1.2 trillion in all of fiscal year 2024 just on the interest. this is according to new data released by the treasury department. republicans say spending the harris biden ballooned the national debt. >> the one thing i can tell you is a great threat to america is our growing debt. with over the last 365 days will spend $2.45 trillion. with this we'll have a continuation of spending at roughly $3 billion a day or for the american people $77,000 per second. >> some democrats taking notice but vice president kamala harris and president biden both blame the former president for this debt problem. listen. >> there are some irony. every question you ask me is something we're trying to fix and republicans get in the way

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