speak of the united states secret service and the fbi will be holding a news conference on the attempted assassination, the second one, on the former president donald trump. that is today at 4:00 p.m. we stern and west palm beach, florida. we will carry th i want to remind everybody that happened this hour and how fast we are getting new information in. already this hour we learned he had been there at the golf course near that hole where the president was playing for 12 hours. he took food with him so he could stay there. until former president trump reach that hole, that golf hole. we saw the new body cam of his arrest. that footage. so much going on right now and more. we will carry that 4:00 p.m. eastern news conference today. hopefully learning not just about this case but how they will protect a trump in the future. "america reports" now.

>> john: fox news alert. brand-new body cam video showing the moment deputies arrested a suspect in the attempted assassination of former president trump. this as we expect to get an update from the secret service and the fbi later on today. with that hello, i am john roberts in washington. sounds i can keita. >> sandra: right behind us. it's not the president because he just landed in philly. great to be with you. i am gillian turner. sandra is off today. this is america reports. the body cam footage was captured on i-95 he went on the run after a secret service open fire after spotting a rifle's speaking through a chain-link fence after the president was vote done at golfing. >> sandra: dum xp when making his first court appearance worries facing federal charges. >> gillian: we have fox team coverage starting now. live outside of the federal court where a man with times to

iran a charge of a murder-for-hire plot is facing a judge. >> john: live in west palm beach, florida, with the very latest. we heard a lot from the sheriff of martin county. bring us up to speed. >> john, we know ryan ruth was inside that federal court room and he smiled as he walked and shackled with his hands and feet and he was speaking with his court appointed attorney and we saw him laughing multiple times. the judge did have present two separate charges. a possession of firearm by a convicted felon as well as position of a firearm within obliterated serial number. combine he could face 20 years in prison and half a million dollars in fines. fox is told that additional federal charges are possible but we understand these charges today will keep him in jail. he told the judge she only makes about $3,000 a month with no assets other than to trucks in hawaii. the sheriff said yesterday when routh was arrested, his demeanor was perplexing and that

continued in the courtroom today with his smile and laughing. >> made the stop and then at gunpoint ordered him out of the vehicle. he complied. his demeanor was perplexing in some ways. despite the fact that we had numerous people out with rifles, uniformed personnel and helicopters. >> the affidavit said routh was driving a car was stolen plates when he fled the scene and also his mobile phone was pinged in the area of the golf course for 12 hours before the attempted assassination from 2:00 a.m. until 1:30 p.m. in the afternoon. also in 2002 he was convicted of felony charges of possession of a weapon of mass death and destruction. routh is being held in the federal wing of the palm beach county jail. his next court appearance is expected for next monday september 23rd. if there's any updates of course we will bring those to you also

a press conference at 4:00 p.m. the fbi is expected to be there, secret service, as well as local law enforcement. >> john: the intrigue around this defense. thank you. >> look at this. a man with ties to iran facing a judge for the first time after being attempted to kill u.s. political leaders right here on u.s. soil in a murder-for-hire plot. live at the federal courthouse in new york city. eric, what can you tell us? >> hi. while officials say former president trump is in the crosshairs of iran. here at brooklyn federal court, an alleged international assassin was arraigned. believed to have been sent here by the regime in tehran. the suspect is identified as 46-year-old sheep march merchant. he is a pakistani born terror suspect who was a wife and kids.

he's accused of trying to arrange the assassinations of u.s. politicians and government officials right here on u.s. soil. his attorney complained that he is not getting the proper diet and he has lost 15-20 pounds since he has been behind bars since his arrest over two months ago. the american officials who prosecutors say he was gunning for have not been named but chuck grassley has said former president trump, president biden and nikki haley were possible targets. he arrived in our country from pakistan in april but he flew from houston, texas, to new york city and met with a confidential source and a pair of hit men. prosecutors say he paid them $5,000 to carry out the assassination plan but those hit men were undercover fbi agents. for several years now iran has threatened the former president and other trump administration officials for retaliation for trump ordering the order of

qassem soleimani. the assassination said it is a blow for defensive monarch receives aimed at killing trump among others. >> when the islamic republic said death to america, when it says death to israel, it means it. and we have seen even religious officials talking about the imperative of killing former president trump and they mean it. >> merchant pled not guilty here in brooklyn. he is due back for another hearing in november. back to. >> gillian: eric back at the brooklyn. >> john: let's bring an a former secret service agent in the presidential protective division. take a look at this guy, ryan routh. and the plot deepens. he is 58 years old, he lived in hawaii since 2017, originally from north carolina. dozens of run-ins with the police since the 1990s.

2002 he barricaded himself inside his office with a gun during a three-hour standoff with police after fleeing a traffic stop. he has had numerous arrests for drug possessions, driving without a license, expired inspection, operating a vehicle with no insurance. there was a charge of being in possession of a weapon of mass death and now the charges facing him possession of a gun while a felon and a gun within obliterated serial number. when you add up all of these things together, what does it say to you? >> when you add all these things together, you have to come to the conclusion that there is many more guys like this out there. look at what this guy said when he was stopped by the local police. he was doing this because it was his mission. he had to do this because trump is a threat to democracy. these are all things that have been espoused by the current biden-harris administration for years now and that type of statement, those incendiary statements directed toward president trump and his family are bringing out every fringe

not job in the world and this guy just happens to be one of them. if anyone is out there thinking there are not more people like this were just waiting to come out of the woodwork to take another shot at president trump or his family, you are absolutely wrong. the entire world realizes that president trump's threat number one in the entire world but the only ones who don't seem to realize that the leadership of the united states secret service and the secretary of homeland security. >> john: the martin county sheriff will snyder said he does not know if this guy was acting alone or if he was part of a broader conspiracy. he said if he was acting alone, donald trump should feel safer knowing this guy is in custody. but if it was a part of a broader conspiracy, that's a whole new kettle of fish and here's what jonathan gillam said is going through his mind at the moment. listen here. >> i believe he did surveillance. i believe he had somebody telling him or some way to find out what trumps movement words.

whether or not he staged it earlier, we don't know. but the reality is he was able to set up a shooter's hide and himself for the shot and let the president get within max effective range of that as ks. >> john: and we know according to the affidavit that he was in that position outside of trump international golf course for about 12 hours. from 2:00 in the morning until 1:30 in the afternoon when he fled. >> i can't disagree with the thing that navy seal said. you have to assume these people are out here doing surveillance grid you need to assume that there is going to come an instance when there is going to be more than one shooter. had this been two or three or multiple shooters, this would've been a much different conversation. again, where are the resources, the assets, and the manpower of the u.s. secret service? why is president trump not being afforded the presidential level of security? granted he does not need the military aid and he may not need

the armored limousines with the flags up but he certainly needs to be afforded every resource that the president of the united states has from the united states secret service. there are currently 31 protect these that president biden has authorized the secret service to protect. that includes members of the biden family to include hunter biden who by the way has not paid taxes and five years. yet is getting taxpayer afforded secret service protection. you also have how many other people that are getting set to come to the united states for the u.n. general assembly yet the united states secret service whose primary responsibility and zero fail mission is to provide protection to the president of the united states can't afford the resources and the manpower to a person who is probably going to become the next president of the united states? this is absolutely unacceptable and shows a lack of leadership and foresight on the part of the u.s. secret service leadership. >> john: you wonder why after two assassination attempts that

joe biden's first action was not to say give him the full presidential package because clearly he is at risk. two big questions in all of this. how did he know that trump was going to be at the golf course. the evidence might suggest that he figured it's the weekend, he will show up there at some point so he hides out in the woods and eventually trump comes along. the other question is where did he get the weapon? he is a convicted felon appeared he couldn't just go to a gunshot but in florida because he would have to go through a background check. that would've picked up the felon in his background. also the serial number was at least partially filed off. we don't know if he filed it off but it suggests to me this might've been a black-market purchase. what do you think? >> let start with that first. it probably was a black-market purchase. let me remind you the ak-47, that weapon is the most widely produced weapon in the world. these things are readily available anywhere you go. i have been to gun shows in alabama, kentucky, tennessee. you can buy these things across the table for a hundred dollars.

it's not inconceivable that he went to a gun show somewhere in the u.s. and bought one of these weapons. not impossible and highly probable. the second situation that you talked about that deals with how did he know about president trump's movements? these chat rooms are full of presidential movements as well as celebrity movements and so on and so forth. anyone you want to track to find out where their next appearance will become a u turn to google and you turn to the internet and there it is right there. it's not that difficult which makes it even more inconceivable that the secret service is not on top of this. you put it perfectly not too long ago when you said this is the weakest cabinet he's ever seen. and the number 1.4 they weakest cabinet member as alejandro mayorkas. ultimately he is the deciding leader, the deciding factor and the supervisor to the director of the secret service. yet where is this guy? no statement has been made and

nothing has changed at the secret service. yes the secret service came out following the butler incident and said yes we will increase manpower. what good does it do to increase manpower if all that means is we will hire a bunch of 60-year-old contractors who spent the last decade taste testing ben & jerry's flavors. that's not going to do you any good. they are not recruiting the right people and putting the right people out there. yes they did a great job on the golf course. yes the sheriff in martin county did a great job. but ultimately this situation should never have happened. >> john: thank god that those guys were out there. the advanced team and spotted that rifle muzzle pointed out through the tree line. sharp eyes to do that. at least something went right. richard, thank you so much. appreciate it. a lot more ahead. >> gillian: i heard on the radio on my way to work this morning a former secret service agent said the secret service does not have the capability or the capacity to secure an entire

golf course and everybody knows that. and i thought i definitely didn't know that. and i used to work at the white house. >> john: if the president was there they would have a lot m more. >> gillian: he made it sound like it's not possible. too big of an area. it is big it, but it's not exactly highly populated. >> john: you secure the most vulnerable points and this was a spot that appeared to be just off the road but he was hiding there for a long, long time. >> gillian: 12 plus hours. >> john: we will be talking a lot more about this coming up in the next hour and 45 minutes including congressman pat fallon who is a member of that bipartisan task force into the assassination or at least attempted assassination of the former president back in july. nicole parker from the fbi will be with us along with congressman mike waltz, bill daley, and sheriff william snyder will be joining us to talk more about this. this man has a lot of information. >> gillian: and the fbi is working now to try to determine

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investigate what appears to be an assassination attempt of former president trump that it cured yesterday in florida. we are grateful the former president is safe. the entire justice department including the fbi, u.s. attorney's office from the southern district of florida, and the national security division is coordinating closely with our law enforcement partners on the ground. we will work tirelessly to ensure accountability and we will bring every available resource to bear in this investigation." >> john: and so it continues. also this. texas governor greg abbott putting a spotlight on the violent venice whaley and gang tren de aragua and how the border crisis is allowing them to cause havoc far and wide in the united states. but he's got a warning saying texas is putting a target on their backs and it is the wrong state for them to try to do business. brooke taylor live in dallas. the governor held a press conference a short time ago. what came out of it?

>> he did and what stood out was his tone and asked how he was talking about the tren de aragua gang. he said this is a dangerous game. he called them ms-13 gang members on steroids. something we learned of this press conference he said there's about 100 crimes linked across the country to the tda. he highlighted the incident at a hotel out of el paso that we reported on. now shut down because of a crime tied to this game. video from inside the hotel showed people shooting guns, fighting, using drugs, all while kids were nearby. abbott says 20 people were arrested near and at that hotel on charges from smuggling to drug possession. he said since 2021, more than 3,000 illegal immigrants from venezuela have been arrested here in texas and more than 200 are wanted. but the big issue here he said is identifying which are gang members. they are harder to identify than ms-13 members and right now they are working on creating a

database from scratch. law enforcement has to rely on common traits to identify members like tattoos and scars. he said texas is going to be aggressive in the approach to tackle the gang. >> i directed dps to elevate tda to a tier one gang. the worst of the worst. ensuring that dps deploys the resources that are needed to corral this growing menace. >> he then signed a document declaring tda a foreign terrorist organization. he said he has ordered dps to launch a statewide operation targeting tda and texas and you may remember back at last we reported extensively on the riots at the el paso border with hundreds of migrants. we also learned today about 100 people who were arrested back then have ties to the tda. john. >> john: this will go back

further than anybody ever thought i believe. brooke, thank you. appreciate it. >> gillian: back to the top story. former president donald trump narrowly avoiding the second assassination attempt against him this election cycle pair republicans and democrats agree on one thing, the heated political rhetoric is a factor. is it time to try and lower the temperature? let's bring a leo terrel fox news contributor and civil rights attorney. leo, we don't know the motive for this guy, the suspect yet. they are looking into it. but i have to ask you as an attorney if it really matters. he seems to be completely looney tunes. he is all over the place in terms of what we know about his politics so far. definitely a little bit unh unhinged. what the motive and one way or another impact the investigation or the outcome for him in this case? >> yes and no. i think the motive is important. for one reason.

there are other lunatics that you described out there and trump is a target for the rest of his life. basically as long as he continues to run for president. did this individual act on his own or are there other lunatics out there? and i would submit to you that there are. and the problem is finding out. the fact that this man is alive is helpful. the problem here is this. can the department of justice and the fbi do an impartial thorough investigation? this is the same department of justice fbi that is trying to convict president trump. it seems like it might be the wrong agency but yes, the motive is definitely relevant and one other point. the rhetoric that you pointed out, trump is hitler and a threat to democracy, that is protected by free speech would we need to focus on the conduct and the conduct of that individual is a threat to president trump and anyone out there who supports

president trump. >> gillian: it's interesting because trump himself weighed in on this very question this morning. here is what he posted -- excuse me. here's what he told fox digital. he said this of the suspect. he believes the rhetoric from biden and harris and he acted on it. there rhetoric as causing me to be shot at when i am the one who is going to save the country and they are the ones that are destroying the country. both from the inside and out. what do you make of that? >> let me submit to the following facts. ever since president trump walked on that escalator for almost ten years there has been a propaganda attack on him that he is hitler, a threat to democracy, a racist, he will overthrow the nation's government. he has never been charged with an insurrection, he has never been charged of inciting a crowd to attack but the rhetoric continues. that is the beauty and the danger of first amendment protection. that is been going on and if we

go back to the original question, the lunatics out there, they eat that up. they have heard it for ten years. so the continuation of this threat is going to happen. anyone who believes otherwise is very naive. this is going to continue to happen and it goes back to that motive. if this individual had any assistance, it is important for the government to find out to ward off other potential threats against president trump. >> gillian: david spunt reports that as a former president who was also currently seeking to reclaim his former office, he gets security from secret service that is somewhere in between the other living past presidents like clinton and carter and bush. and the current president, biden. do you think that needs to be reconsidered now? >> let me think about that. i can't use the appropriate word but i will say yes. let me give you the logical reason. if you use a general protocol,

you are ignoring the threat assessment. president trump has been -- there have been two attempts on his life within 90 days. how can you think the rules of protocol he is a former president, not the president, you need to look at the threat assessment and say wait a mi minute. we have to up the amount of security for president trump. stop the arguments that have been made about resources are limited. trump needs not only secret service protection. bring in every military armed force to protect this man 24/7 to provide aid dete deterrent fy other potential assassin. >> gillian: great to hear your perspective as always. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> john: a live look at capitol hill where a bipartisan chorus of lawmakers is demanding answers about the apparent second assassination attempt on former president trump's life. texas republican congressman pat fallon standing by with his

reaction but first fox news senior congressional correspondent on the hill. chad? >> does the secret service have the necessary funding to guard america's political leaders and should i get more money? that story next.

>> gillian: welcome back peered the secret service and fbi are set to hold a briefing on yesterday's apparent second assassination attempt on former president trump. this as lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are demanding answers about trump's detail in the secret service report on the first attempt is supposed to be released later this week. that may now be on ice. we are waiting to hear. we have complete coverage for you. g.o.p. congressman pat fallon is here with his reaction but first to go to fox news senior congressional live on capitol hill. what are lawmakers you are talking to this morning saying about the timeline here?

>> good afternoon. lawmakers are complement in the secret service for foiling this attempt on the life of the former president but it is unclear if the secret service has the resources to do its job. >> the secret service told us very clearly last week that they are redlined. they are working overtime, overtime. double overtime. these folks are burning out. they need new resources. >> crow notes that the secret service is taxed protecting president biden, vice president harris, former president trump, and both vice president nominees tim walz plus j.d. vance. they wonder if the secret service has the proper plan to guard former president trump. >> the secret service has said that we are at the top of her limit with him being a candidate he is not the president so we can't do more and what i'm saying is it should be based solely on the threat level. the threat risk, not some parameters that former presidents get this much security and current presence

get that much security. >> at a hearing after the july incident, former secret service director kimberly cheatle said the needs 80,000 employees. they lead the panel investigating the july shooting. speak of the fact president trump was the former president but now is the candidate for the presidency this fall, shouldn't there be a greater coverage of that situation? what i keep going back to is we keep hearing they don't have enough men, they don't have enough money, and i think that's absolutely true by the way. >> lawmakers gave the secret service more money than the administration asked for last spending cycle. fox is told there is no request yet to add money for the secret service to an interim spending bill due later this month. >> gillian: we will see what happens over the coming days. upon capitol hill for us this afternoon, thank you.

>> john: let's bring in texas republican congressman pat fallon who sits on the house task force investigating the first assassination attempt of donald trump. congressman, the sheriff of mountain county will snyder raised something that might be potentially ominous in his news conference a short time ago. listen to what he said. >> is this guy part of a conspiracy? is he a lone gunman? if he is a lone gunman, president trump is that much safer because we have them. but if he is part of a conspiracy, this whole thing really takes on a very ominous tone. >> john: we don't know at this point if he is a lone wolf. it judging by his social media trail, and it is a long one, at points in his life online he was asking people to contact him on his whatsapp number. where do you think this is go going? >> this is one of the reasons why i've been advocating for a full complement of secret service protection akin to what a sitting president gets

for president trump. as chairman kelly was just mentioning, he is a former president but he is also the leading candidate to be president and he is under threat from a foreign nation state for actions he took to protect the country while he was president. president trump, donald trump is a unique individual pier and he's probably the most famous person in the world and we need to protect them. as far as the secret service saying they need more money, the whistle-blowers that i talk to from the secret service aren't singing the same tube. they are saying we need to spend it correctly. there's things they can do but they have 8,000 employees and a $3 billion budget. no extra money was needed to mitigate the age are complex peer they just didn't do it and they left president trump and great danger. >> john: all president biden would have to do is tell his chief of staff tell them to put the full presidential package on the former president. he wouldn't even need to pick up the phone himself or pick up his pen to do it. why do you think he does not do it? >> it is a head-scratcher. that's what he should do and it

is the proper thing to do. by the way, what is the secret service's mission? they do things other than protection but as far as the protection realm, to protect the president, the vice president, and you should be protecting presidential candidates. that is making sure that they are secure and then you will have other protective spirit you will have some cabinet members and foreign heads of states and other things but they should be the very first thing at the top. you should be protecting those folks and you have the resources to do that and they failed on two different occasions in the last two months. >> john: after the assassination attempt in butler where bipartisan calls to lower the temperature of the political rhetoric. that lasted about a day and a half. and now here's what trump is writing about what was behind the latest assassination attempt. he said he believed the shooter, the rhetoric of biden-harris and he acted on it. there rhetoric is causing me to be shot at when i'm the one that's going to save the country and they are the ones destroying the country both from the inside

and the out. is the the former president right? >> i don't think he's wrong. he is been skewered over the last eight years being compared to nazis and hitler and fas fascists. attacked the ideas, not the person. i don't like president biden's policies or kamala harris. i think she has been m.i.a. on so many things but i just want to defeat her at the ballot box. i don't want them harmed in any way and the left needs to do a better job of making those distinctions and sometimes you get lazy and it is emotionally driven to get people to the polls. >> john: your task force is acting for a meeting with the secret service and this is what you said in a statement on sunday. we have requested a briefing with the u.s. secret service about what happened and how security responded. we are thankful to former president was not harmed but remain deeply concerned about political violence and condemn it and all of its forms.

you are investigating july 13th. are you going to add this onto your plate as well? >> it's a great question. absolutely we should. we have the task force already working and we are focusing on butler but we should definitely take a look at this because yes, this assassin was not as close as the butler assassin, but he was pretty darn close. 300-500 yards. that's in the danger zone for sure. so we need to look at where that was and where that broke down and the secret service agent that did see the muzzle of the rifle and did present president trump from being harmed. >> john: at the time he was discovered, he was four or 500 yards away from the president but his intention was to be within a few yards of him and had that secret service agent not miraculously spotted the muzzle of that rifle sticking out from the trees, it looks like he was waiting until trump was right beside him to pull the trigger.

>> no doubt. that's why you need something when you have a full complement. a counter surveillance team, a full counter surveillance team where they constantly protect the perimeter of where the president is and that is what was not present an butler and they did not have a counter assault team either and they did not do walk-throughs with the locals prior to. they did it very halfway if you well and they did not leverage technology with drones, they did not put anyone on the highest point which was the water tower. they had to command posts there. there were several breakdowns that led to butler. we need to find out where the breakdowns were that led to this incident and floored. >> john: certainly the agent who spotted the rifle should be commended for having pretty sharp eyes. congressman, thank you for joining us. appreciate it. >> gillian: there is also this. political attacks against the supreme court are wrapping up. why the chief justice is being accused of shaping trump's so-called winning streak. fox news legal editor kerri urbahn on deck to react to it

plus this. >> it was an extremely fortunate for all of us that he complied because had he not complied, you would be asking me right now what were the circumstances of his death. >> john: more on the second apparent assassination attempt on former president trump. we will speak live to the sheriff who nabbed the suspect just after the incident. stay with us. meet the jennifers. jen x. jen y. and jen z. each planning their future through the chase mobile app. jen x is planning a summer in portugal

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streaks. let's bring in kerri urbahn fox news legal editor to get into it. here's a quote from "the new york times" reporting. they say the chief justice's february 20 the discussion on where to hear the case offered a scathing critique of a lower court decision and a startling preview of how the high court would lead a row. he said not only does the supreme court should take the case which would stall the trial but also how the justices should decide it. >> for starters, it does not surprise me that roberts issued a scathing rebuke or analysis of the lower court's decision because it was a terrible decision. think of the dio days position in that case there are no president should get immunity for anything ever. that's untenable. how could a president govern? if a president work to issue a drone strike, they could be held criminally liable whereas if i were to ask for a drone strike on my neighbor i would be put away in prison for a long time. >> john: much as you might

want to. >> and i should be. but i use that example to say there are so many. >> john: pause for a second pair joe biden has taken a podium in philadelphia. apparently we'll talk about attempt. >> president biden: thank you, thank you, thank you. no luck. i love kamala [chanting a thank you joe] thank you all. as the saying goes, you all brought me to the dance. [laughter] folks, i want to get something straight at the outset. i love kamala. but delaware's state is the best to be see you you think i'm

kidding. i was a 29-year-old kid and they embraced me. they embraced me like you can't imagine. and we won the second youngest person in american history because of hbcu all delaware state. and by the way i hired a young man from delaware state named tony allen. he came to work for me. while there i continued him to encourage to extend his degree. he left and he became president himself. i don't know how that happened so quick. but tony, thank you. i have been introduced countless times but never quite like that. and i made at 20 from the bottom of my heart, i am deeply moved. by god's grace we were two friends at delaware state and it will always have a special place in my heart. to the presidents and administrators of our 101

historic black colleges and universities, it is an honor to celebrate and i mean celebrate hbcu week with you. [applause] before i begin, i want to make a quick reference. on the attempted assassination against our former president in florida yesterday. i commend the secret service for the expert handling of the situation. the former president was protected from harm and the subject is in custody. [applause] the acting head of the secret service is in florida today assessing what happened and determining if any further adjustments need to be made it to ensure the safety of our former president. let me just say, there is no, and i mean this from the bottom of my heart, and those of you who know me and many of you do, no place for political violence in america. none. zero. never. [applause] i've always condemned political violence and i will in america. in america we resolve our differences peacefully at the ballot box and not at the end of

a gun. america has suffered too many times the tragedy of an assassin's bullet. it solves nothing. it just tears the country apart. we must do everything we can to prevent it and never give it any oxygen. folks, to today's event. it is an honor to recognize hbcu excellence in our nation. >> john: there is the former president -- president biden talking about the attempted assassination attempt against former president trump yesterday saying there is no place in this country for political violence but he said he spoke with the acting director of the secret service to see if adjustments need to be made and the president could just say give them the full presidential package. >> he could. a simple bipartisan letter from congress would also do the trick. this is not hard to do and at this point it seems to be warranted given how things continue to increase. we don't know that it's over. this is two times in two months

and the same applies to kamala as well. i think the secret service should do everything in their power and have the full backing of the government to do everything in their power to protect them. >> gillian: i want to loop us back to the reporting from "the new york times" that includes leaked deliberations from the supreme court justices. it seems in this instance a deliberate maybe not attack but a target of the chief justice himself. they are saying he has had a hand, he has inserted himself into this managerial role for all of the trump related cases but isn't that his job? meaning even if these leaks -- put aside the fact that it was leaked for a second because that is the real grievance here but even if he is guilty of the things that are outlined in these leaks, is that news to anyone? >> no. and it shows that i think in that position you can't win. when you are attorney general, they will be mad at you in any

given point. he has been lauded by democrats for being this consensus builder wears republicans have criticized him for being a squish for lack of a better word. this is a criticism. he has had to undergo it in the past but i thought the most uncharitable line in "the new york times" piece was when they said -- they accused roberts of plunging the court further into politics despite what he said he wants to end the reason i thought that was particularly unfair is because you only need four votes to get a case granted. an order for a case to appear before the supreme court, only four justices need to say yes but we never know who those justices are. these cases that involved trump, we have no idea if roberts wanted them or not. to say that he has suddenly become trump campaign manager and is out there searching for cases that will help trump and he knows how he will land and he knows where the justices will land, it is a stretch and it is inconsistent with everything we know about this guy.

>> john: let me get back to the idea of a leak because the big leak as we recall was in the spring of 2022 and the dobbs decision got leaked. now we have someone else out there who is trying to shape the supreme court or discredit it or whatever by leaking internal deliberations but here's what "the wall street journal" site. this is a betrayal of confidence that will affect how the justices do their work. the leak bears a possible fingerprints of one or more of the justices. the story in the times as part of a larger progressive political campaign to damage the credibility of the court that justifies democratic legislation that will destroy its independence. democrats want to undergo big reforms in the supreme court and this would all appear to be part of that program. what's interesting to me is after the dobbs leak, there was a big investigation and they couldn't find out who is behind it. at least not to the satisfaction that they had a case against that person. >> which is surprising to me. i think there are things and tools they could've employed to

get to the bottom of that and i do wonder if that is a mistake that chief justice roberts made that he is paying for now because no one was held accountable. there is no incentive not to leak. leaks are obvious the bad for the court because it discourages candor. we are not supposed to know these things. justices are supposed to have open and free conversations where they hash things out. that is how decisions get made and it's a way to convince your colleagues of your opinion. that's the whole point of having a nine justice supreme court. as much as these pieces are fun to read, especially if you're a supreme court heard, they are not good for the justice system and really the health of the nation. >> gillian: that's the most important point here. thank you for staying with us. >> john: great to see you. the israeli military now says three hostages found dead in december were likely killed as the result of an israeli ale strike targeting a senior hamas militant in gaza. nate, what is the idf learning

as a result of the invest investigation? >> john, it shows how hamas commanders will hold israeli hostages close as a shield, as a form of protection. in this specific strike back in november, israel had bad information. they thought the hostages were elsewhere so they proceeded with the strike and it turned out those three hostages were in the same tunnel complex as home offices in northern brigade commander. you see the hostages who were killed there. the idf bases the assessment on where they were found relative to the strike's impact. military says the idf shares in the grief of the families over the devastating loss and will continue to accompany them. meanwhile, for the first time parts of a missile fired by the rebels in yemen landed in central israel. they claim it as a hypersonic missile but israel disputes that. an interceptor hit the missile but did not destroy it. there are no reported injuries. you remember back in july a

drone hit tel aviv killing one person and injuring ten. israel responded with air strikes on the yemen port city. meanwhile today a u.s. envoy met with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and defense minister. both leaders indicated they are turning their attention to hezbollah in the north and that is expected to be on the agenda in today's war cabinet meeting that has been pushed back to 10:00 local time. that is 3:00 eastern time and this comes as there is some friction between those two leaders and reports that netanyahu is close to firing him. >> john: we will keep following that. nate forrest in tel aviv. thank you. >> gillian: this is a live look outside trump international golf club where the fbi is spearheading the investigation into the apparent assassination attempt of the former president. some chilling new details about just how long the suspect was camping out right near that course coming up for you appeared we have a lineup of

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