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>> hello, everyone, this is "outnumbered," i'm kayleigh mcenany, here with co-host harris faulkner and emily compagno. also joining us, former rnc vice president of coin, cassie smedile and former wisconsin congressman and cohost of bottom line on fox business sean duffy. we begin with the race for the white house. less than 50 days until election day, thousands packed nassau coliseum in blue-state new york last night, exciting to see former president trump speak at his first rally since the second assassination attempt. [cheering] >> wow. this is a big crowd, i'm thrilled to be back in this state i love with patriotic new

yorkers who are really the heart and soul of america, we know that. the reason i'm here is because hasn't been done in many decades, it hasn't been done for a long time, but we're going to win new york. [cheering] >> that's the first time in many, many years that a republican can honestly say it and we're going to do it. americans deserve a campaign based on the issues. we try to keep it on the issues and god has now spared my life, it must have been god, thank you. not once, but twice. and there are those that say he did it because trump is going to turn this state around, turn this country around, make america great began. these encounters with death have not broken my will, they have given me a much bigger and stronger mission. they have only hardened my

resolve to use my time on earth to make america great again for all americans, to put america first. so i say to the people of new york, with crime at record levels, with terrorists and criminals pouring in and with inflation eating your hearts out, vote for donald trump. what the hell do you have to lose? what do you have to lose? [cheering] >> quite a question there, this comes as new fox news poll shows presidential race in a dead heat. trump is ahead two points in battleground counties and states and voters say they prefer trump on two issues, the economy and immigration. i want to start here, cassie, with what you see when voters are asked did the policies of trump and biden help or hurt

you? pull up net numbers, different in help and hurt. negative 24 with biden say biden era policies hurt them. and you see plus 17 say trump era policies helped them. quite a differential. kamala harris needs to get away from biden policies. she's been given three opportunities to do so. asked are americans better off than they were three years ago, watch what she said? >> do you believe americans are better off than they were three years ago? >> what do you have in mind for that? >> i was raised as a middle-class kid. >> i grew up a middle-class kid. >> i grew up a middle-class kid. kaitlan >> kayleigh: she can't do it. >> cassie: the answer is no, the american people have good memories, if you don't, you have a bank account and you know what that looks like now versus three

years ago. you know what your 401(k) looks like now versus three years ago. that is why you see despite national polls there has been no change. they are not getting answers and they know answers they are getting don't match what they are feeling. i love when donald trump says what do you have to lose? what we have to lose is what we've been feeling last three years and we can't have four more years of that. >> kayleigh: emily, i will use acronym, americans have a good bs detector. when they are asked is kamala harris willing to say anything, they say 55% see her as willing to say anything to get elected, 48% say the same about trump. >> emily: we've seen that for years, decades behind kamala harris. we saw that when running for senate, ag and d.a. she's the best cham eelion possible.

when it comes to policy, fact she can not point to or articulate why she's flip-flopping, shows there is a space within. if you go back and think about what you stood for, we talked about thesis we wrote in law school, we can articulate what we felt then and why we don't feel that way anymore. this is someone who has been on the public dole for decades. we kept her in places representing us as highest prosecutor of the state of california defending laws and she ruled a proposition she said is unconstitutional, i will not defend it. we have someone as vice president said it does not matter what the law says, i'm going to let migrants vote. someone that has pushed her values over law and that is what they want to represent the country as commander-in-chief? she feels a certain way.

this chameleon cannot stand and your point about president trump, what do we have to lose? everything because we've lost it already. >> kayleigh: interesting questions in this poll, what is going to motivate you to the polls? look at issues that are going to motivate people, enthusiasm, high prices and immigration are the top two. two issues trump has massive leads on. >> sean: right, two issues that motivate voters are two top issues donald trump performs on. it is interesting in polling, kamala harris made up some ground in the last six weeks, it still shows with black voters donald trump 29%. four years ago he was like 12%. that is a huge gain in places like detroit and in georgia. then hispanic voters 46%, he got 35 or 34% last election.

nevada and arizona. this is shaking up the ground in which we're playing politics and i love these go ing last night o new york, he went to bodegas and the bronx and makes plays where republicans don't play. a lot of people in new york think their vote does not matter. when you say your votes do matter and we can win this state, that is an energizer and will turn vote vote out for the. he may make kamala harris spend money had he not done the work here. >> harris: i would add, it also brings the country together. by default, i don't know if he's meaning to do it on this issue, when you identify people in springfield and other places having similar economic pressure on resources in the area, you

have people come in who won't be vetted in this country, we'll never know who they are. when you see pressure come in and feel them all over the country, there is unified idea, we're all under pressure now. and maybe that cuts across party lines, maybe that is why he's doing better with independents than she is doing. you'd have to be able to articulate the path and i appreciate so much what emily says, if you want to get to where trump is now, if you want to borrow that no tax on tip, he is for that, a lot of people won't have to pay taxes, would it be military for injured people? whatever it is, if you get to that point with borrowing, maybe you ought to explain why you look like a republican at this moment. forget she's flip flopping, people in her own party ought to be questioning why does she not keep her word on reparations? they will study it, which means

they will never get to it. dropping the words is not enough, sheos her own party's voters to come clean on why are you flip flopping and changing? >> kayleigh: cassie and i worked together lead up to 2022, two of the years, what did you make of the fact biden's numbers were so much better than kamala harris. first week of september, last cycle, biden had a five-point lead, that is more than double kamala harris. what do you make of that? >> cassie: that is interesting, because biden was so much worse on the issues. you recall how people feel about kamala harris, remember when even democrats were like, i don't know how we don't swap her in for biden or swap biden out for her, we don't want her, she is worse than biden. her policies are worse and her inability to connect with people is worse.

despite everybody's effort to have hope and joy in the campaign, people remember to your point, emily, kamala h harris' record and she's been pretty abiz malvice president, done nothing on anything she was tasked. sean, on the down ballot races, maybe trump does not take new york in the electoral college, there is opportunity to get more members of congress from the state of new york. your vote matters. he is spending time here and ramping up folks is important and tieing for people to get out to the polls. >> kayleigh: that is why he went to unseat john tester. coming up, federal authorities say iran stole information from trump's campaign and sent to the democrats, a live report on that next. where ya headed? susan: where am i headed?

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>> harris: the fbi is releasing details of iran's effort to cause chaos in the 2024 election. fbi saying iran stole nonpublic material from the trump campaign and sent to people associated with the biden-harris campaign. gillian turner is live at the state department with more on this developing story. >> the iranian regime is upping attacks in a very big way. u.s. intelligence says over summer iran hacked trump campaign and stole information from it and then tried to share that information with what was then the harris-biden campaign. take a listen, we're getting

comment now from the harris-walz cam participate, they tell us, we are not aware of material being sent to the campaign. a few individuals were targeted with a spam or fphishing attemp. former president trump said this last night, listen. >> all of the materials because biden is working with iran and does not exactly like me because they were ready to make a deal. iran hacked into my campaign. i don't know what the hell they found, i'd like to find out. couldn't have been too exciting, they gave it to the biden campaign. >> iran is trying to leak stolen documents to the american public through media outlets. microsoft put it this way on foreign election interference. >> everyday we know there is a presidential race between donald trump and kamala harris.

this has become an election of iran versus trump and russia versus harris. >> fbi says no evidence harris sta staffers responded to stolen e-mails they received because they have a robust cyber security measure in place. secretary of state says this is all about something that is much bigger than even just one campaign. listen. >> when state or nonstate actors spread disinformation, material deliberately meant to deceive or divide the public, they attack the very foundation of free and open society. >> well, harris, the secretary is right in the sense iran has been at this for a long time now as much as 10 years, they have been trying to penetrate u.s. presidential campaigns. this is first time we're learning they have had success with it. >> harris: secretary blinken is

wrong when he says this would be any kind of disinformation. that is incorrect. they stole things nonpublic items that were factual and that is why the former president wants to know what did they take. is trump right when he says they don't know what was stolen and why wouldn't they know if that the case, do you know? >> the fbi is leading the investigation, we don't know if the fbi knows precisely what was stolen or not. that is up to the harris team to disclose to them. we don't know, as soon as we get information, i will let you know. >> harris: wait a minute, make sure i have the facts right. they don't sound fair. biden-harris campaign can decide if the fbi can decide what was stolen and biden-harris campaign can decide if donald trump, a competitor in a presidential election who the material was regarding and stolen from can actually see what was taken? >> so in some instances, the fbi

can wholesale and demand information be turned over and get it. other instances, they have to ask owners of the information to provide it to them. we don't know -- >> harris: ask on their behalf. great question. okay. greater reporting, thank you for taking all my questions. sean, you were a congressman on the hill. there are things always happening and you have seen something like this at some point where something has been stolen. you see where i'm going, right? the candidate, this is a presidential election, he has to know what iran has. i think that is really important and he deserves to know what the biden-harris campaign has. i don't understand, fbi has to demand it? we can get it, too. >> sean: key point, donald trump wants to know what information do democrats have, you can prepare defense if you know what offshore they can use on stolen material. look at iran, they want kamala

harris to win. as democrats, john kerry, did the iran nuclear deal, gave them billions of dollars back. donald trump put sanctions on oil, main revenue driver in the country and they had no cash. the problem now is there is sanctions, joe biden has not enforced them. of course they don't want donald trump, they would love kamala harris, democrats have gone easy on iran. >> emily: three takeaways here, number one, there is lack luster coverage of this, think about outrage and horror when a prominent espn reporter had pictures taken of her, private photos. think of outrage and horror when there are break-ins and people steel your proprietary information. when things are stolen, everyone gets upset, why now when a former president's things are stolen and it is lukewarm

response? harris-walz response should be, we are cooperating fully with the fbi, we will give everything over, we wish our fellow candidate the best and third takeaway, iran wants harris to win, take that to bed and take that to the polls when you vote in november. it speaks for itself. >> harris: wow. putin endorsed her. china, iran, russia triangle. >> kayleigh: harris, a joint statement went out, i could not believe what it said. it says this malicious cyber attack is -- trying by some measure to exsas bait decisions, are they trying to ensure trump did not win? what do names have in common? they got secret service service

protection, john bolton, mike pompeo, mark esper, kenmeth neth mckenzie, iran is targeting them and where is intel to call it out. you were happy to call trump a russian troll, cross-fire hurricane, russian asset in 2016, where are you to call balls and strikes, iran is trying to make sure trump does not win. >> cassie: from a campaign perspective, they say it is not a matter of if, it is when. it is incumbent on us to be over the top about what is happening, what we've done to correct it. that is where the campaign needs to step up, otherwise more questions will be asked and that is a big problem for everyone. >> harris: real quickly, that is where the campaign need to step up, i'm saying the federal government does, too. she is part of both.

you can't apply hatch act here, go do her job, she is president of the senate as vice president. they love to call hearings, they can't get one on this? >> sean: federal government is offended, they are the only ones that can interfere, not iran, just u.s. >> harris: polls show donald trump crushing kamala harris on one issue that could decide the presidential election, stay close. that's how it felt to live with bladder and bowel incontinence. but that changed when my urologist told me about axonics therapy. a long-lasting solution that has really changed my life. this is not another drug, and it works. visit findrealrelief.com to arrange an appointment with an expert physician to determine if axonics therapy is right for you. results and experiences may vary. stop suffering in silence. ichi, ni, san, shi... (1,2,3,4 . . )

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understand we can do both, create an earned pathway to citizenship and ensure our border is secure. they have pledged to carry out the largest deportation, a mas deportation in american history. imagine what that would look like and what that would be. how is that going to happen? massive raids? massive detention camps? what are they talking about? >> emily: here is president trump. >> my people say, sir, does it help you to speak about the border, nobody cares. i said, i want to speak about the border, i did a great job. i talked about the border, nobody cared. now they care because now the border is 25 times worse than it was in 2016. now the border is not even

believable what is happening and i want to be known as your border president. i'm going to be known as your border president. [cheering] >> and kamala will be known as your innovation president. >> emily: he's not wrong, kayleigh, reason it is top issue is because it has ballooned under current administration and their vision for fixing it will not. >> kayleigh: balloon is the right word, there is a chart in "new york times" showing monthly apprehensions. right at 58,000 mark, you see obama and trump and little spikes and then a huge directional shift upward to 250,000 monthly apprehensions and that is biden-harris. no wonder axios reported

immigration was a hot button issue, deputies were being sent to meetings because nobody wanted to own it. kamala harris says i am for bipartisan legislation, except new piece shows all progressives say she will not bring up that legislation, that is a talking point to win. you are against mas deportation, majority of americans are for it. >> harris: 54%, in brand new polling. either he is disingenuous or biden has fired her, she was border chief. he -- seen in decades. so she does know what it looks like. she knows how to do it. i think she was a prosecutor, perhaps at that point, she was attorney general of california. in a state that has wall structure that goes into the ocean south of san diego, she

knows immigration and what deportation looks like and what mass deportations look like, because obama was successful at it. is he no longer talking to her or she's incapable of repeating what he says. >> emily: 10-point variation. >> sean: you see people in chicago and new york and cities across the country who care about this issue because their lives have been impacted. not rich elites dealing with this problem, it is everyday mom and dads seeing violence in crime increase in neighborhoods. kamala harris said in a clip we played that we can secure the border. really? if we can, why haven't we secured the border? she has not done anything on the border. if she does not like mass deportation, is she talking about something les than mass deportations? she's not going to deport anybody. americans see how she's engaged and dope like it again. you have terrorists and

smugglers and drug dealers, human traffickers coming across the border. what kind of vetting have you done. why are you letting bad people into my country and ruining my community? >> minnesota, 25% of all isis recruits live, you go to where you are welcomed. >> cassie: minnesota, couple thousand miles from the southern border, we've been saying so long, every town is a border town and democrats did not want to admit it, legacy media did not want to cover it while fox was covering, bill melugin said the craziest day of his job it was from the rio grande. i am scared for bill melugin when he does the reporting, i am glad he does it. touch on rachel morin, 1800 miles from the border and that is what she focused on, that is

the border town where my daughter was murdered by an illegal immigrant. that is a nightmare scenario, and second top issue for voters. we have no choice but to be concerned because of this administration's actions and inaction that have made that one more thing that every parent in america has to be nervous about. >> emily: well said. do you remember when jen psaki laughed at the virginia voters who cared about illegal immigration, she said what does virginia have to do with anything. terrible example. harris' team believes hiding the vice president from the press is the right strategy and now we know why, stay with us.

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♪ ♪ >> kayleigh: vice president harris' team is betting she and her runningmate governor tim walz can avoid tough interviews and win as they run down the clock to election day. combined harris and walz have done just 14 interviews, compared to 55 done by trump and vance. neither she nor walz have held a single news conference. together the harris-walz ticket on pace to do fewer interviews and news conferences than any other major presidential pairing in modern u.s. history. the hot take of the day, the week, the month, the year, sean duffy came from cnn's craig steltz brian steltzer.

look closely. he counts podcasts, friendly radio and social media. >> sean: the job of staffers around kamala and tim is to protect them, not put them in places they are going to fail. that is why you don't see her doing a press conference or tough interviews with really good journalists. if you're the media, kamala, don't mess this up, take a backseat, we in the left wing media, we'll take this for you, message for you, defend you, attack trump for you, do everything you and your campaign should do, we'll do it for you. just remember, she was polling less than joe biden who was polling at the worst of any mod upper-day president. they have taken her from 31% approval and made her a tough c contender for the presidency. >> kayleigh: you set it up perfectly when you mentioned

biden. axios shows, she is running strategy, biden limited his interviews in 2020 and defeated trump, he participated in more interviews than harris has including town hall. >> harris: he also has 50 years under him. he can fake it till you make it. she is not showing us anything about imimprovement. i have a different question, we were talking off camera, where is the transparency around we don't get interviews with her as a candidate, i think the country needs to know what she's doing, where is her staff, where are people who work around her everyday. she's had a revolving door. axios had 22 people on record talking about it. i think we need to know, current president sidelined off top of the ticket because of

deficiencies. if you don't talk about a campaign candidate, please talk as the vice president and tell us how you are doing and how you'll make life better, the country deserves that. >> kayleigh: emily, her worst moments have come during one-on-one interviews, take a watch. >> do you have any plans to visit the border? >> we're going to the border, we've been to the border. this whole thing about the border, we've been to the border. >> you haven't been to the border. >> and i haven't been to europe. >> there was an open letter urging administration to change course and strategy. is it time? >> it is time for us to do what we have been doing and that time is everyday. everyday it is time for us to agree that there are things and tools that are available to us to slow this thing down. [laughter] >> emily: i have no idea what

she said. you make such a great point, i am paying your salary, show me what you are doing. the president has a ridiculous schedule, two weeks of vacation while american lives are in danger abroad and the list goes on. notion she does not have time to do pressers, the fact she is horrible off the cuff, she better be doing something for this country, then. on that point, that perfectly illustrates your point, she's been propped up her entire life. you see her when she gets slightly presed or asked a question rooted in substance, she bristols and becomes combative. i have not been to europe either. she's not a -- about marketing and media, getting mad at vogue because they put her in sneakers on the cover. >> harris: who wore the sneakers? >> emily: she did, she needs to own it. her runningmate said i want you

to go to grocery stores and have hard conversations there. no, you two we want to have the conversations with. >> cassie: i don't think she's put in a performance worthy of winning the presidency. she has this moment to be on the job everyday and show the american people how she is in a leadership position and she is not doing that, going out on the campaign trail and president biden gets a daily brief and i think today doing something with the hispanic caucus, or he goes to the beach. kamala harris is not rising to the moment and that is frustrating for voters. she's got the media, best pr machine. former comms staffer for sean duffy. i wish i was that good. >> sean: oh, you were. >> harris: question is not whether they have different events for this caucus or that,

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>> is it time to end the inflammatory rhetoric? take that up with mike pompeo? democrats in congress fed up stonewalling and the trump assassination attempts. moskowitz is here. more evidence iran is trying to swing the election for kamala harris. and is illegal immigration driving up unemployment? charles payne will join us. join us for "america reports" see you soon. [cheering] >> emily: former president donald trump made a surprise ap appearance on gutfeld last night, during the show he answered questions, answered viewer questions, discussed issues and poked fun at david muir's hair and republican candidate sat down in an open

and unscripted format, something we're still waiting for vice president kamala harris to come anything close to that. watch it. >> we have questions from a audience submitted. what is something people w be surprised to learn about you? >> that is a dangerous question. >> greg: what do we not know. >> i got a call from several, can you be careful, we don't need scandals, we're leading in the polls. maybe i should not answer that question. >> greg: do you wear pajamas? >> i don't. >> do you own blue jeans? >> he sleeps in a suit. >> i have a very old pair, i doubt i fit in them. >> i have never seen you at the beach, we see biden at the beach. do you ever sunbathe? >> i see biden, too. all -- somebody told him he looks great at the beach in a

bathing suit. it is terrible when you see a president lying on the beach tuesday or wednesday and stone cold out, he's out. who can sleep in front of cameras rolling in the heat? >> you only sleep three hours, right? >> i don't sleep much, probably four or five hours. >> do you get good sleep? >> i think so. >> nobody sleeps well, everybody is trying to find the answer. >> the purpose of this election so we can sleep well again. [cheering] >> you know, i can't wait, one day i will tell my grandchildren the president the united states stole my seat. mr. president, wow. >> an honor. thank you for wrestle mania four and five, if you sit in the chair and do the tyrus experience, do it right, you are the people's champion.

oh, wow. [cheering] >> i like that. now i'm really -- [cheering] >> that's a good one. >> the man who makes all the professional ones. >> there you go. [cheering] >> emily: a real belt for the people's champion, that was made by the actual man who makes belts for wwe, signed on the back for president trump. in incredible, electric atmosphere and american people got to see him warm and engaging and relaxed for a full hour, it was incredible. >> cassie: emily, he was show good and being on topic and candid and funny and likeable. i had this thought, kamala harris is getting softball interviews and she's not likeable or funny. that was fun to watch, i stayed up past my bedtime watching

that. >> harris: likeability, can't take yourself too serious ly. >> emily: we asked him about area 51. >> there are aliens at area 51? [cheering] >> you know, i tell you, funny thing, i think that might be a question that i get more than any question. it is the crazy thing. we have that so-called area, they consider a sacred area. i don't think i'm a believer, i've interviewed pilots, they said, all i know, sir, round object going four times faster than my f22, which is very fast. it shouldn't have been, it was roup, sir. they have seen four or five guys i've interviewed, solid people, great pilots for the u.s. air force, etcetera, they have seen things they cannot explain. >> harris: amazing. >> emily: my face says it all.

>> sean: he's so comfortable in his own skin and funny and en engaging and so on topic and so off topic. i love this, he is reaching so many people late night and kamala can't do it and others won't have him. >> emily: that is right. >> kayleigh: 2016, his biggest, greatest qualities, he was likeable, humorous and light, it was hard to do that in 2020. this is his nature, guy you want to have a beer with, even though he does not drink. >> harris: what struck me about watching him show up yesterday was he gets the people, he knows this is the most popular night-time show, one show just went off the air competing against gutfeld, the president gets it. >> emily: he does, we get it, too, stay with us, more "outnumbered" in jump a moment. ♪ ♪

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why don't we do this, take care of yourselves. okay, i wish i looked like that. if i did, i would be president. >> all right, lightning. >> listen, a beautiful moment. the first video, this young boy is crying when he got the letter. amazing. >> diddo, and amen. >> this i wish everyone saw that side of him. he is a caring and compassionate man. and sweet man. >> the only thing that gets better than getting a letter from the president, a hand delivered gift from the president. >> thank you for watching us, everybody. america reports, now. >> attempting to tamper with our nation's presidential election any moment now. we are expecting a briefing from the state department, as u.s. officials reveal the iranian regime hacked into the trump campaign, stol