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race which is heating up as a big rate cut is set to bring borrowing costs down. with high prices and the economy still at the top of america's minds, which candidate's plan will get voters or fired up at the polls in after a second attempt on president trump's life, the bipartisan push congress is making to keep making presidential candidates safe. the task force member,. pat: fallon, and democrat house intel community member ami bera are here. i am david asman in for neil cavuto, this is "cavuto live." kamala harris and donald trump are talking up the top issue which, of course, is the economy. alexandria hoff is in wilmington, north carolina, where trump is set the speak later today. hey, alexandria. >> reporter: hey, david, good to be with you. yeah, cost of living, housing prices are at the the fore if

front of the former president's remarks here today. but with this rate cut, you know, just recently happening it's kind of resumed some of the criticism that the former president has had of chair jerome powell who's said that these cuts were warranted was the economy is in good shape showing steady growth with. the former president criticizing the timing of this. he feels like it was political. during his last rally in new york wednesday, trump said if elected, cutting interest rates is a priority for him too. >> that shouldn't be happening in our country. we will cut interest rates, cut insurance costs -- and the insurance is horrible -- and massively, we will cut your taxes. i gave you the largest tax cut in the history of our country. [cheers and applause] >> reporter: so we expect to hear more on the economy today. during this rally in wilmington, north carolina. and when in new york, trump also accused the central bank of playing politics, noting that he thinks it is a sign of the economy being in bad shape.

one thing though that the federal reserve chair and if trump may agree on at the moment is that the southern border is impacting the labor market. powell said that the crowds coming across the border during the biden-harris administration undoubtedly affects and will affect the unemployment rate. >> if you're having millions of people come into the labor force and you're creating 100,000 jobs, you're going to see unemployment go up. so it really depends on what's the trend underlying the volatility of people coming into the country. we understand there's been quite an influx across the borders, and that has actually been one of the things that's allowed the unemployment rate to rise. if. >> reporter: and so doors are going to open here in about an hour. we're going to the talk to people about how the cost of living has impacted their life was north carolina's one of those places that's seen a large population increase. trump won the state in 2016 and to 20 the -- 2020, but it was with smaller margins.

the population increase has made the state more competitive, david. david: beautiful wilmington, north carolina. i love that city. alexandria, appreciate that. kamala harris hitting georgia and wisconsin on friday as a new fox news poll shows she does have a slight edge nationally over trump, but it is within the margin of error. madeleine rivera has more on that. >> reporter: hi, good morning, david. vice president kamala harris has no public events scheduled for today. overnight, she returned from wisconsin. her rally in the democratic stronghold of madison is a departure from her team's recent strategy of heading to red counties and battleground statements to try and eat into former president trump's margins. but dade county is the fastest growing county in the state making it a critical campaign stop. a quinnipiac poll shows harris is leading in wisconsin by one percentage point, far from comforting for the vice president. >> let's not pay too much attention to the polls because,

let's be clear, we are the underdog in this race. and we have some hard work ahead of us. but here's the thing, we like hard work. [cheers and applause] >> reporter: earlier on friday harris was in georgia where she focused on abortion, an issue she's banking on to motivate voters. she spoke with family of a woman who died from abortion pills she got out of state state. doctors delayed treatment because of the state's laws. a pro-life advocate is pushing back saying in this article the law explicitly allows physicians to intervene in cases of medical emergencies or to if the fee fetus has no -- fetus has no detect the, heartbeat. regardless, listen. >> we can't run and hide from the fact that donald trump and his supreme court nominees stripped away the rights of women in this country, and the vice president is going the talk about it.

>> reporter: -- heads to new york tomorrow where she is expected to deliver remark at a political event. david: thank you so much for that. well, the federal reserve cutting interest rates by half a point this week as it sees signs inflation is easing, at least in its own eyes. this comes as a fox news poll shows 6 in 10 voters see grocery prices and housing costs as, quote, a major problem for their families. what does all this mean for the race? let's ask real clear politics reporter phil wegmann. thank you for being here, appreciate it. wall street's all excited over these the rate cuts, but the american family ain't so excited about the way things are going with prices. in a fox news poll, the the question was asked, the administration's policies and and your family, trump gets much high higher marks on that than biden-harris does. 47 say they belief, in fact, things kind of helped them during the trump administration where only 25% saw that under

biden-harris. and hurts is just the opposite. biden-harris gets 49% of americans think it hurt their families, just 30% think it hurt during the trump era. what do you make of that? the does trump win out on this issue? >> well, i think what the, what all of those numbers underscore is that economists, when they look at their spread sheets, they are seeing something than families around the dinner table. so when you talk about the recent fed cut, you know, i think that because it's going to take some time for that to influence mortgage rates and car loans, it's going to give both republicans and democrats an opportunity to make their argument. and here it's going to be one of those situations where sort of reality is perception. with president biden he's arguing that this cut shows that the battle with inflation is almost over, that the soft landing is in sight. but or you know, as we heard just a second ago, president

trump is arguing that an aggressive rate cut like this shows that the economy's in trouble. what we've seen in some of the polling, particularly the associated press poll that came out this week as well as the morning consult poll, is that harris is sort of eating into the trumping advantage on the economy. so as we go into november, the economy is the issue to watch. this is the metric that's going to matter. david: well, and it's become a part of kamala harris' campaign to emphasize her middle class origins. i just want to -- for those who haven't is heard it a million times, i just want to play it one more time. roll it. >> i will always put the middle class and working families first. i come from the middle class, and i have never forgottennen where i come from. and i never will. [cheers and applause] david: and you'll hear that at least twice if not lee or four times during -- three or four times during every kamala harris speech, and it seems to be working. the fox news polls show that they were asked who do you trust

to do a better job on the middle, helping the middle class. harris is, has a 53%, trump just has a 44% on that even though trump can point to figures showing middle class might have actually done better during his administration if than they did in the current one. >> and the animating impulse of the trump campaign all along has been nostalgia for better mortgage rates, lower gas pries and full employment. what harris has done even though she's the incumbent in this race is by pointing to her biography, she has sort of sidestepped some of the policy decisions that president biden has made. she is sort of -- she has sort of jettisoned that record. and i think that could change potentially now with fed rate cut. certainly, this could be the light at the end of the tunnel that she points to. but again, these are some worrying signs for trump because he is arguing that things were better under him four years ago and thus far, like we saw at the

last debate, this isn't something that vice president harris has given a direct answer to. instead she's talked about feelings, not necessarily some of the hard policy facts. david: and yet, at the same time she's making headway on the middle class claim, shears losing the teamsters -- she's losing the teamsters and even the the uaw says, in fact, while the leadership there is endorsing harris, the members are probably going to be voting for trump. if neil cavuto had the head of the teamsters on earlier, sean o'brien. here's what he had to say. roll tape. >> -- did a lot of polling, as you know, and the polling leaned heavily towards former president trump. neil: very heavily. very heavily or or sean, and i'm justin wondering, do you look dis-- just wondering, do you look disconnected from your members? >> no, we're definitely not because, look, we did extensive polling. that was important p. our goal as union leaders, as the leaders of the teamsters so to provide the ability for people to have a

voice and to provide credible information. no endorsement, i think, sends a message to both parties that if they truly want the support working people, they have to reevaluate it and understand that nothing is given. it is the earned. david: phil, while kamala harris may have the teachers' union, blue collar union workers, particularly men, seem to be voting pretty solidly for trump. >> and this is a dream come true for republicans. they would have loved an enforcement from the teamsters, certainly, but they're going to settle for a non-endorsement. essentially what this is is a flashing red light for democrats that they could have trouble in system of those blue wall states. i think it is kind of interesting that the teamsters declined to endorse because, you know, harris didn't have a clear majority and donald trump didn't have universal support. i think that was the phrase in the -- david: universal support. when do you ever have universal support in a poll? [laughter] forget it. it's clear that trump was the winner there. >> certainly. and so i think, you know, this

is what the republicans are going to continue hammering on. they will take this as good news for them, and, you know, what we're hearing, you know, some local unions raising the alarm to the harris campaign saying that there is trouble on the ground. david: phil wegmann from real clear politic, you've got to read real clear politics. it's the only way you're going to get answers. phil, thank you very much for being here. >> thank you, sir. david: what will that big fed rate cut mean for you and your wallet? and later, the new details we're learning about the first attempt on former president trump's life. task force member pat fallon is coming up.

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company founder dan geltrude. dan, great to see you. thanks for coming in. so how and when are americans actually going to feel the effects of this rate cut? >> well, let's be clear about something here. what people are feeling the pain of is from inflation. a rate cut is not the magic pill that's going to deliver that. over the last three-plus years, inflation is up 20, over 202%. 20%. so now it's getting close to that 22 target, right, david -- 2 target. what this cut is meant to do is to stimulate the economy. why? because the economy is slowing based upon job numbers, unemployment numbers. so what's happening here is make borrowing cheaper so that businesses can start to get things moving, hopefully creating jobs. but listen, the fed has been behind the curve this entire time, david, and thousand they're trying to catch up --

now they're trying to catch up. probably still going to be behind the curve for a while. dade david but this is, just for folks to know, this is a huge rate cut by federal reserve standards. i mean, usually it's done in the middle of a crisis like in the 2009 financial crisis or during the pandemic. i mean, what does, what does powell see -- unless he's doing the politically, for political reasons to help the harris campaign -- what does he see that concerns him so much in. >> well, politics aside, david, as you just said, he is seeing something which everyone is feeling, which is the economy is weakening. so now it's that game of catch-up. and that's not the position the fed should be in. if they're going to start a cycle of rate cuts which is what everybody believes is going to happen, they jump to half a point because they're behind already.

david: all right. well, meanwhile, the government is still spending like a bunch of drunken sailors, and we saw that in these extraordinary august figures. we a had a $380 billion deficit for that month alone, for august. and look at this, we only had $307 billion coming in in revenue. in other words, we are spending more than twice as much as we are bringing in. try doing that at home, dan. if. >> well, it doesn't work. and the difference between all of us at home and the government is the government prohibits more money. david: and that means inflation, right? >> well, exactly. it means inflation because you are flooding the markets with more money which right away will stimulate inflation. and that's what a we've been seeing. look, all this talk about all the reasons as to why we're in an inflationary period, what really a stands out most is government spending.

if you stop the spending, inflation will roll back. david: yeah, but we're going in two to different directions. that's my point in bringing up the deficit figures, is we're doing can the government -- doing the government, the government that's in power right now, the biden-harris administration is doing things that cause more inflation while the federal reserve's claims that inflation is easing enough to lower rates that much. it doesn't seem to the make sense. >> no, it doesn't. i've used the analogy on this point before to say it's like having one foot on the gas and one foot on the brake. and you know what happens, david? you go around and around in circles. it doesn't work. is you're absolutely right. you have two parts of the government going in opposite directions. so how are you ever going to be able to resolve this issue of inflation? if. david: well, and the other thing is if we are -- the some people suggest we may actually be going into a recession, that that's what is the greatest fear of

powell, or that's why he lowered the rate so much. if that happens, you know what happens with every recession, the government makes less revenue because there's less economic act a at this time. that means -- activity. that means these deficits are going to you even more. already we're paying, what is it, over a trillion collars servicing that debt in payments to the bondholders. >> that's exactly what happens. and, you know, what people done talk about with interest rates coming down is, is borrowing becomes cheaper also for the government. so now you have more incentive that the government can spend more. so again, when we look at everything the government is doing, it doesn't make sense. stop spending! david: yeah. it's very simple. i mean, it is very simple. it doesn't make it easier, but it's very simple. dan, thank you so much. dan geltrude, appreciate you coming in. coming up, a federal judge dealing another blow to biden's student loan forgiveness plan. where is legal battle heading?

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david: president biden's hosting the prime ministers of australia, japan and india for what's called the quad leaders' summit at his home in wilmington, delaware, today. lucas tomlinson has more on what they're expected the discuss. hey, lucas. >> reporter: good morning, david. what those world leaders came here to discuss, china. although it's notable that just a few minutes ago in a a talk with reporters, national security advisor jake sullivan claims the meeting of those

world leaders here in wilmington is not about any one country. last night president biden spoke to his former high school football team and ghei them the following pep -- gave them the following pep talk. >> [inaudible] it's the god's truth. [inaudible] not a joke. [inaudible] i am more optimistic about america than i've ever bench. >> reporter: now, david, a big part of standing up to china a is beefing up forces in the pacific. in president biden's first year in office, he announced a defense partnership with australia. part of that a agreement involved selling up to the five virginia class attack submarines like this to australia. here's the problem. the u.s. navy's inventory is short. it's supposed to have 66 attack boats, instead it only has 49 with 40% of those down for maintenance at any one time. supporters include the top republican on the armed services

committee, senator roger wicker from mississippi. but wicker warns the u.s. must boost its defense spending to match china's and a host of other worldwide threats. he wants to spend 5% of the u.s. economy on defense including bolstering the submarine fleet, one of the advantages the u.s. navy if still holds over china. china has 2020 times -- 200 times the shipbuilding capacity as the u.s. right now. >> what we need to do is put our money where our mouths are. but part one of the treaty says that, that we will do our part to bring australia along with two submarines in the very near future. we don't have the industrial base right now to do that. >> reporter: now, if you're hoping that president biden would discuss this this weeked on camera, you're bound to be disappointed because there's no press conferences scheduled for this whole weekend, david.

david: that's a huge deficit in submarines. i didn't know we were that far off the mark. lucas, thank you for that, appreciate it. well, in this summit coming ahead of president zelenskyy's trip to the u.s. next week where he's expected to present his victory plan for the war with russia the biden on thursday. to a key figure now from one of ukraine's biggest allies and neighbor, polish foreign minister radoslaw sikorsky. good to see you, minister. you were once a foreign correspondent, so you covered, you covered wars for a living. you're well prepared to give us an assessment of how that war is going. what's the latest in the war between ukraine and russia? >> yes, i was, in afghanistan and angola in the 19ing 0s. -- 1980s. and i also visited the front lines many ukraine in my previous capacity as member of the european if parliament. and ukraine won the battle of

the black sea, remarkable for a country with no no navy. ukraine is now exporting its grain, its food stuffs to the international markets at prewar levels. and on land, russia is paying a huge price in tens of thousands of dead for incremental gains. and these deep strikes into russia by indigenous ukrainian drones and missiles hitting ammunition depots, hundreds of kilometers from ukrainian borders are also very impressive. said david with all of those casualties, and i heard that wrong with ago russia surpassed the casualty figure that they had in afghanistan. that loss equaled the end of the soviet union in many people's minds, so how much longer can putin put up with these losses without getting serious political feedback inside russia? >> it's a very good question.

it is estimated that the soviet union lost about 13,000 dead over a decade in afghanistan. and in ukraine, russia seems to have lost at least 100,000 dead already. but remember that putin's russia is more repressive than brezhnev's soviet union. many those days -- in those days the committees of soldiers' mothers mt. soviet union were a factor many soviet politics. now they're all banned. and the question is, as you say, where is russia's pain level? but remember, the russians are sending to the front thousands of prisoners, people from national minorities, people from the countryside. putin is facing constraints. he does not want to mobilize from moscow i and st. petersburg. he's afraid of those large cities. david: yeah. he's using human beings as cannon ford, is what's

happening. it's -- fodder. it's a horrible thing. you were also, by the way, a student activist during to poland's wonderfully heroic struggle existence the old soviet union. is that what putin is trying, is that his goal, is to to bring back the old soviet union which, of course, would put poland in threat as well as the rest are of eastern europe? >> yes. i think that his i'd lodge y'alt a if ukraine becomes a successful pro-western democracy and its people live in a is system freer of corruption and where people, ordinary people have a say, then of course the russians might want the same, and that's a mortal threat to putin itch, to the russian kleptocracy. -- putinism. david: you may not if want to go here, and i can respect that because you're a foreigner on u.s. soil isling now, but when you look at the united states, a lot of americans are concerned about leadership in the united states with, wondering if we have enough leadership. do you sense that the u.s. has

kind of lost its step on foreign policy because of questions about whether president biden is with it enough? >> we, of course, don't take sides, but we are very grateful to the united states and to president biden for sustaining president zelenskyy and ukraine's resistance existence russian a-- against russian aggression. actually, europe is ding more, and we also give credit where credit is due. the first javelins were sent to quain by president trump. president trump was right to call on europe to spend more on defense. poland is spending 4.3% of its gdp on defense this year, going on to 4.7 next year. david: yeah. >> we were also grateful to president trump for imposing sanctions on the nord stream pipeline. so we try to keep in touch with both sides of the aisle. i'm going to michigan next week to thank the polish community there for their steadfast support for nato. david: yeah, or yeah.

no, to to ifland has really stupid as, unfortunately, not all european nations have in this struggle. thank you so much for being with us, mr. foreign minister. we appreciate you coming in. >> thank you. david: absolutely. well, now to the fight over the white house's student loan forgiveness push as a federal judge keeps the latest plan on hold. where that legal fight is heading, that a's coming up. but first to the investigations into the assassination attempts on former president donald trump. what acting secret service director ronald ronald rowe just revealed. it's extraordinary. that's coming next. mary. janet. hey! eddie. no! fraser. frank. frank. fred. how are you? support up to seven brain health indicators, including memory. when you need to remember, remember neuriva. a test or approve a medication. we didn't have to worry about any of those things thanks to the donations.

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david: well, acting secret service director ron rowe says his agency is moving to the, quote, accountability phase as he addressed the public on the investigation into the first trump assassination attempt in butler, pennsylvania. is and he also mentioned the second one after sunday. this all coming, of course, just days after the former president avoided that second attempt on his life on sunday. fox's david spunt is at the doj with the very latest on all of this. david. >> reporter: david, we heard from the acting secret service director ron roe. he says -- ronald rowe. he says there is a common theme for what went wrong on july 13th in butler, pennsylvania. that common theme, lack of communication, full sop. >> the secret service the did not give clear guidance or direction to our local law

enforcement partners. there were communication defish says between law enforcement personnel at the site. >> reporter: rowe took questions friday afternoon after he presented a summary of the secret service internal report looking at problems leading up to and on july 13th. rowe says the investigation is now in the penalty phase, meaning certain employees will face consequences. yesterday he released a summary of the final report that's in the works. here are the eye lights. quote -- highlights. the different radio frequencies were not conducive for quickly sharing realtime information. rowe has said important information was shared by secret service agents and other law enforcement on cell phone text chains. he says the old-fashioned radio frequencies were not used where they should have been. with respect to what happened in florida last weekend, a secret service agent spotted a man with a gun in the bushes. rowe says donald trump, the former president, has been receiving presidential

protection from the secret service since the butler shooting. watch this exchange. >> the former president is getting tactical assets. he's getting everything that the former president -- i'm sorry, that the current president has with respect to secret service assets. >> reporter: and that was my second question, can you explain that president, former president trump is getting the same protection as president biden and vice president harris? because a lot of members of congress on capitol hill are skeptical about that. there's a lot of talk saying, clearly, he didn't have the same protection because if he did, the golf course would have been secure in west palm beach. can you tell people what's going if on with that? >> respect to with west palm beach, what i can tell you about getting into our techniques, tactics, our procedures, what i can tell you is that on that day there were counter-sniper elements that were present with the former president on the golf course many in approximate if similarity. there was an entire counter-assault team that was there in approximate to similarity. there was also a jump team in pox if similarity.

>> reporter: yesterday the house votes 405-0 to make sure that presidential candidates receive the same secret service protection as sitting presidents. it's been happening according to rowe since july 13th with harris and trump. however, congress wants the make sure it becomes law for the the next presidential candidates 10, 15, 20 years down the road. david? david: david, thank you very much for that. well, the house unanimously, as david just mentioned, passing a bill to boost secret service protection for presidential candidates on friday. this as the trump assassination attempt task force tries the digest a second trump assassination attempt. after delaying its initial report on the butler, pennsylvania, incident. texas republican congressman and trump assassination if task force member pat fallon joins me now. you have to put that in an acronym so i can say it more quickly. [laughter] but you just heard the acting secret service director claim that after july 13th donald

trump had the same kind of protection, same level of protection as president biden is now getting, but if so, how did the assassin get so close to shooting him and killing him? >> well, david, it's -- what he said was not quite true. so let me explain. if president trump had had the same full complement of security like president biden has, would-be shooter wouldn't have been there for 12 the hours. they would have walked the tricep -- perimeter with probably dogs, can and dogs reason exactly like stealth the fighters. they have access to them. they should have used them, because he literally would have sniffed the guy out. they didn't do that. they did have drones, but it's very lush, that golf course, so the drones sometimes if you underneath some bushes, you won't be seen by a drone. if they had used something that simple as we need a full security complement if for president trump, that's why we

had to pass that into law to make sure we compelled them to do that. but they didn't do it. so it wasn't entirely true. david: and, i mean, other presidents have taken spontaneous trips to the golf course. president obama did it quite a bit. his former secret service agents attest to that. so they're not unaccustomed to these sort of impulsive moves by with presidents or presidential candidates to go out to the golf course. this guy was there for 12 hours. he was there for 12hours. shouldn't somebody have been able to check the perimeters of these golf holes? >> yeah. you know, 18-hole golf course ors you're talking about a tremendous area, but that's why you walk the perimeter. that's why you use your counter-surveillance team, and that's why you use dogs, because they have that incredible sense of smell, and they would have literally sniffed him out, and he would have been removed long before president trump was out

there. also, david, they knew the night before that president trump was going to play on that golf course. he just went a little early. so they had a plenty of time to -- david: well, and, obvious, it leads to the an obvious -- of course, it leads to an obvious question. eventhey knew the night before, if it was rell livety tightly-held, that information, how the hell did this assassin know about it? >> that's the $64,000 question. he could have gotten very lucky and that's ooh why he was there for the full 12 hours, i'm just hoping. or maybe was it leaked? i don't know. we don't know the answer to that. it's one of the reasons why we're delaying our initial findings, because with we need to have an answer before we release our report to the american people. david: also, of course, the main subject was the butler, pennsylvania, attempt a couple of months ago a because we've had more time the to digest that. he actually called it a failure. he came out specifically and said it was a failure because it turned into a deadly incident. can you address the suspicions that many people have that

secreted service -- secret service was weak in butler because of a general disdain or to non-interest in the trump campaign? >> well, if that's true, i mean, we -- that would be horrific for, you know, for our country, quite frankly, and for that agency. so it's either that, quite frankly, it's t either that or it's criminal neglect. because if you want to secure -- the agr building, david, was the closest building -- david: that was the building on which the assassin was shooting from, yes. >> correct. the three buildings directly behind him is where the secret service had their counter-snipers on. they own those buildings. when you go out there, you won't believe that they left that up unsecured. what they should have done, they should have had somebody on the water tower, that could have secured the after. they could have put agents on the roof, surrounded the billing, they could have -- building, they could have clears the come -- cleared the complex

because there were hundreds of people that a didn't go through any security whatsoever. they were 3450 yards closer to the president. -- 50yards closer. david: congressman, the producers are going to kill me, but one question about the shutdown, will there be a government shutdown before the election? very quickly. >> i don't think so, no. david: okay. thank you for the short an, appreciate it. thank you very much for being here. lawmakers making it clear these assassination attempts are a bipartisan issue. we're going to be speaking to the democrat congressman, amy bare rah, in the next hour. as the fentanyl crisis continues at our southern border, what officials there are doing to stop it. that's next. lowe's knows it's easier to make the right calls,

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david: texas lawmakers cracking down on cartels smuggling fentanyl into our country as border officials in the state say they seized over half a billion lethal doses of the drug

at our southern border. fobs if's brooke taylor is in dallas with the latest on that. brooke. >> reporter: what they're doing right now is targeting pill pressers because they say cartels, criminals and drug traffickers are using this machinery to crank out hundreds if not thousands of fentanyl bills -- pills. take a look at what they look like. criminals are getting their hands on the same machines as pharmaceutical companies. it basically turns the powder into looking like real prescription pills. authorities say it's it's tough to track where that equipment came from. u.s. senator john cornyn has been pushing for a bill that would put serial number on pill pressers to help track down the criminals. >> the profit motive of the cartels, hay continue to get richer and richer and richer while more and more of our children are dying. >> reporter: in 2023, a 16-year-old died after her mom if says she took just one pill if laced with fentanyl. her mom says her daughter's dealer never gave up her supplier, leaving her in the

dark about where the pill came from. she's been working to the raise awareness about the risk of fentanyl-laced pills. >> they're targeting our children. i mean, how evil is it to the the know that our kids are dealing with anxiety, adhd, and they're going to, they're going to make it look like company saks -- zahn ex, like percocet set. >> reporter: she says this is just one piece of the puzzle in tackling this much larger issue. david: just awful. brooke, thank you very much. now to this, a federal judge extending a block on the white house's student loan forgiveness plan as the president continues his effort to wipe out student debt. where that fight is heading next.

david: so a federal judge dealing another blow to president biden's student loan forgiveness program, extending the temporary restraining order on the plan that would give relief to over 30 million borrowers. the biden administration already offering more than $168 billion in relief the more than 4.7 million if borrowers, so where does the legal battle go next in former deputy assistant attorney general and uc-berkeley law professor john yoo joins me now to discuss. john, great to see you. thank you for -- can look, i'm just a lowly journalists. i don't know constitutional law, but that's why we have you here. nevertheless, even though you know it much better than i do, i thought that the supreme court was the last word, that once the supreme court makes a decision that something is not kosher, you get rid of it. but what's happening? what -- can you make sense of this for somebody like me as to why the supreme court is not the last word, why it's going back to other courts?

>> david, i wouldn't put the average con law professor up against a fox host, believe me. [laughter] here's what's going on. you might remember a year ago, a little more than a year ago the supreme court blocked president biden's effort to can el over $4000 billion in student debt $4000. most presidential administrations would get the signal and say, if i want to do that, i have to to go to congress. federal law has not passed any ability to just cancel student debt. instead, president biden and his aides went back and tried to find every little nook and cranny they could, every gap in the laws that they could and tried to create somewhat smaller programs. but somewhat smaller, i mean like $160 billion up to maybe $to 3000 billion of efforts to the try to -- 3000 billion, efforts to stretch the out payments or essentially say we're going to modify your loan so that you don't have to really pay anything every month. that's what the lower courts are now dealing with, and almost

every judge that's encountered these new programs in the lower courts has halted them because they've said, look, the supreme court already said about a year ago that you can't cancel student the debt. but the biden administration keeps trying because i think that they have a fundamental disregard for our supreme court justices. david: but it's in the constitution that the supreme court is the last line. i mean, essentially this means that the biden-harris team is breaking the law, isn't it that simple? >> the court said that a year ago, all these lower courts are saying it now. and you ask, david, what's next? well, these cases are going to get to the supreme court. the supreme court has already said we're going to wait to see what the lower courts say, but we're likely to take the case. this is up to the november election. i assume if trump wins, he's going to drop all these illegal efforts and go to congress to work out a deal. it's up to congress to decide -- david: well, john, you mentioned the election. a friend of ours from the "wall street journal" wrote an

editorial saying is it rude to to call this a white house vote-buying scheme? i mean, when hare spending $so -- essentially saying they're forgiving $168 billion that the taxpayer'sen on the hook for, isn't that just election buying at our expense? >> it's also reyes, sirrive. it's taking money from, basically, the poor, people that didn't go to college, and redistributing it to the wealthy and rich and people with graduate degrees and college degrees. worse yet, tying to say they're defending democracy, they are taking away congress' power over the purse. the constitution the gives these fundamental decisions about how to spend our tax dollars to congress, not to the president. david: yeah. no, it's very clear there, it's in black and white. but somehow they missed that one. i'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt on that. john yoo, or good to see you. thank you very much. fox news polls giving kamala harris an edge, but with donald trump pulling ahead in some key

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>> well, the race for the white house is heating up with 45 days to go until the election. vice-president harris hitting battle ground states in wisconsin and georgia on friday as polls show the race tightening in those key states. madeleine rivera is in d.c. with more on that. >> hi, good morning, david. vice-president kamala harris is capping off her week on the campaign trail with focus on abortion. the issue was key at her events in wisconsin and georgia. thee brought up a woman who suffered