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>> well, the race for the white house is heating up with 45 days to go until the election. vice-president harris hitting battle ground states in wisconsin and georgia on friday as polls show the race tightening in those key states. madeleine rivera is in d.c. with more on that. >> hi, good morning, david. vice-president kamala harris is capping off her week on the campaign trail with focus on abortion. the issue was key at her events in wisconsin and georgia. thee brought up a woman who suffered complications from
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abortion pills. thurmon wasn't treated right away because of the abortion law, her family says it cost her her life. harris is blaming former president trump. >> under the trump abortion ban, her doctors could have faced up to a decade in prison for providing amber the care she needed. he brags about overturning roe v. wade. in his own words, quote, i did it and i'm proud to have done it. >> pro-life advocate says the state's abortion law did not stand in the way of saving her life adding it allows physicians to intervene in cases of medical emergencies for if the fetus has no detectible heartbeat. yet, harris' team is seizing on abortion for voters after failing to win the key constituent this week. the teamsters did not endorse any candidate making harris the first presidential candidate in
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about 30 years to not win the labor union's endorsement. >> i'm disappointed that our international did not endorse vice-president harris, but i have to applaud the local unions and the joint council and the joint -- the executive board members of our international that have endorsed. >> harris was introduced to the stage in madison by the president of the low calm local teamsters union in wisconsin and may be seen as a dig. david: thank you. donald trump hitting battle ground north carolina today. he's holding a rally at 2 p.m. this afternoon. this is a news fox news poll revealing vice-president harris has a two-point lead over former president trump. what's causing the shift and will it stick? let's ask g.o.p. pollster justin wallin and democrat polster doug schoen.
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i'm sure vp harris, her team is pleased at this. but doesn't trump have a tendency to underperform on the polls, that is on election day the polls were behind what he actually had? >> absolutely, and that evidence is clear, david, from 2020 and 2016. and when i see a margin in a state like north carolina 50 to 48. i say not only is it effectively statistically tied, but if i had to place a wager, i bet on donald trump because he closes well and the reluctant trump voters as they've been called, tend to come out on election day. so this election is as tight as it can be and i think kamala harris is recognizing that. david: well, justin, we've only had one debate and of course, it was a questionable debate. it looked like a double team against trump, both the moderators and kamala harris, and of course, trump went for the bait and they tried to bait
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him and he took the bait on a couple issues, wasted time dealing with that. don't we need another one and is it conceivable that while trump has said he wouldn't do another one that maybe he will be persuaded to do one before the election? >> well, i think that vital group of voters who still remain undecided needs one because they remain undecided for a very good reason. they just haven't heard a credible answer to their top issues. first and foremost, of course, being the economy and cost of living, which is still by far the biggest issue. after that, issues become a little divergent, depending whether one alliance more republican or democratic, immigration, crime, these sorts of things tend to be more in the public side. and democratic voters are leaning more towards health care and those lines. those are very important issues in a very, very tight race. all of those matter because that's what gives you the advantage. i agree totally with doug the
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differences in the polling are numerically different, but statistically not so. with something that close, both candidates have to truly start prosecuting their case that they are meaningfully different on these top issues and the undecideds haven't seen it. david: i'm going to do this, and kamala is doing well with the specifics. we ran a poll in the first hour of the broadcast showing, in fact, the general public believes that she has -- is more in the interest of the middle class than donald trump is, even though an economic case can be made the reverse of that. isn't her team better off just sitting back and doing oprah interviews that aren't very substantive and things like that? >> you know, there are two questions there, david. david: yes. >> has she been substantive, and i think the answer is no.
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second politically is she better off not being substantive and i think your conclusion is mine, too. if i was working for her, with i i most assuredly am not, i would tell her not to do interviews, probably not to do another debate, even though i think the american people deserve one, and i would say, look, the polling is showing she's improving her economic ratings both on their own and vis-a-vis president trump. i think the onus is on the former president to outline his agenda going forward and his dit differences with the biden-harris team. david: even though she says she wants one, maybe if trump turned around and said he does want one, perhaps she wouldn't do it. >> there is more risk for her to engage than positive outcome. there's no where for her to turn. she has done a terrific job of cur rating her image.
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if she goes to another debate most certainly she'll be pressed on certain policy items and that does raise risk and that's a challenge. however, i don't see how she creates a meaningful gap absent it. she's kind of between a rock and a hard place. david: we've got to deal with the assassination here, very interesting reports and disturbing reports that came out last week. after the second assassination attempt on sunday, we did not see from democrats the same kind of attempt to lighten the rhetoric. it didn't last that long, but they went right in after sunday's assassination attempt with, now, donald trump's a threat to democracy and, i mean, it's very harsh rhetoric. trump makes a fairly persuasive case that that is not making things better for these crazy assassins out there. what do you feel about all of this? >> well, first, i agree. i think my party, the democrats
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should have been far more concerned with trump's well-being, preventing more, both attempts and lightning and lessening the rhetoric, but i also think on both sides. both parties have an affirmative obligation to try to talk about issues and these vitriolic assaults, blaming other sides for horrific events, like attempted assassinations. i think we're a better country for that and we'll certainly be better with a discussion of the differences between us and our futures not, not this polarizing divisive and harsh rhetoric. david: i owe you one. unfortunately, we're running out of time. i wanted to ask you about the montana senate race, but that will have to wait for another day. good to see you both. >> thank you very much. david: well, we mentioned donald trump's second rally. alexandria huff just spoke to
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voters. and what do they want to hear from the former president today? >> well, they want to hear about cost of living. there are many people we spoke to in this probably quarter of a mile long line waiting to get into the event. a lot of people saying they're on fixed income, that north carolina has historically been an inexpensive state to live in and that's changed in recent years because the other half of the people we spoke with are newcomers, and they want to hear about particularly grocery prices and the forefront what the former president is expect today speak about here today and it's an important place to be holding this rally. bad weather back in april kept the former president out of north carolina, we know that j.d. vance was here just a couple of days ago and in speaking with people, they are feeling inspired and we also asked them, how are they planning to vote? we know many states are starting the early voting process. all, but one that we spoke with
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says they're willing to wait in another line to do so. but what's interesting about north carolina, is we had the fox news power rankings come out lan week and north carolina moved from a lean r state and a tossup like georgia and many ways because of the demographic shift, so many newcomers to north carolina and bringing their political leanings and made north carolina more competitive. trump won in 16 and 2020, but in 2020, it was by smaller margins. expect trump to spend a whole lot more time here in the coming days, but he's hoping for a three-peat and democrats, alternatively are hoping that this can be a state that they can turn, david. david: extraordinary. of course, the polls are just a photograph in time, i know that, but 47.6 against 47.5, you don't get any closer than that. alexandria, thank you very much. the acting director of the secret service addressing security failures of the first trump assassination attempt and
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qunol. the brand i trust. >> the congressional house taking sweeping action, unanimously passing a bill to boost secret service protection for presidential candidates. this the same day acting secret service director ronald rowe, jr. admitted to some of the agency's failures in the first trump assassination attempt to pennsylvania. and the second attempt in florida last sunday. democratic congressman with me now. thank you for being here, congressman. your colleague in the senate, democrat senator blumenthal is
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really very concerned. he's been quite vocal about his concern over the past week. he made comments about the assassination attempts before mr. rowe's testimony, question and answer. and i want to roll that and get your response. roll the tape. >> i am reaching a point of total outrage because the response from the homeland security has been totally lacking. in fact, i think it's tantamount to stonewalling in some respect. the department of homeland security has to be not only to me, but to the american people, quickly or it will fuel the conspiracy theories dangerous to our democracy and credibility. david: after listening to secret service director yesterday, do you still share senator blumenthal's suspicions
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that there's stonewalling going on here? >> first, david, thank you for having me on the program. i'm glad that we acted swiftly as the house of representatives in a unanimous vote to beef up secret service funding and protections for the presidential candidates and vice-presidential candidates. i agree that there's something going on with the secret service, you know, that assassination attempt two months ago in butler, that was very concerning. there clearly seems to have been some breakdowns there and for not doing the security sweep, that's concerning as well. so, again, the speakers put together this bipartisan task force and i know they'll expand their investigations and we've got to keep the candidates as well as the current president safe and secure. david: but would you go as far as senator blumenthal to say that there's stonewalling going on? >> you know, i think there's-- you know, we've gotten some information.
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you know, the task force is doing their work. i'll allow that they're doing internal investigations and so forth, but we've got to be transparent. if there have been breakdowns, we've got to learn from the breakdowns and protect our elected officials. david: you know, director rowe was admitting failure in pennsylvania, two months ago, but he was painting sunday's assassination attempt a complete success even though this guy was hanging out with a long rifle for 12 hours before former president trump hit the greens. does that sound like a full success to you? >> does not sound like success to me. if someone could be hiding in the bushes with a long rifle for 12 hours and not get discovered. i'm glad the former president was safe and i'm glad that the secret service was able to act quickly and no shots were fired by that assassin, but that does not sound like success to me.
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david: and how the heck did the shooter know that donald trump was going to be on that course on that sunday where he would be able to take a shot and he was not far away. thank god that secret serviceman was so sharp. a young, relatively new secret service agent, but he did his duty well. so nothing, but kudos for what he did. but nevertheless, it came very close and somehow this guy knew that trump was going to be there when many members of the trump team didn't know about it. how did this guy find out about it and is that something that you're looking for? >> you know, that's something that the task force, again, it's bipartisan, that they will be diving into. we can guess, you know, the former president spends a lot of time in palm beach. he does like to golf. so, again, if that assassin was laying there for 12 hours, you know, it could have been just a lucky guess, but we should make sure there's no breaches. do a full, thorough
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investigation and again, i second what you just said about the secret service agents. they did their job, but i worry about the administration at the top of the secret service, if they're doing their due diligence. david: i've got to ask this very quickly, but do you think that there's any possibility of a foreign influence here, in particular, iran, because of their interest in assassination? >> you know, we've not seen any evidence. i'm on the intelligence committee and we're certainly looking into this, but we've not seen any intelligence of foreign malign influence on assassination. david: congressman, we appreciate you coming in to talk about it. appreciate it very much. thank you. >> you're welcome. david: what more could be done to prevent these incidents? let's ask former fbi investigator and long time friend bill daley. thank you for being here. >> good to see you, david. david: as a former fbi agent, i assume it hurts you to see breakdowns in the security forces of the united states, whether it's the fbi or the
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secret service. is it burnout, the acting director of secret service yesterday was saying that, you know, there's a problem with funding. is it that or is there something else going on here? people are worried about dei getting into the whole secret service, as well as the fbi and maybe even some people that don't particularly like trump well enough to cover him as much as they should. i mean, what are all -- given all that is thrown out there that i just mentioned, what do you think it is? >> let me just try to put it down, and as a former fbi agent i don't want to hear any aspersions cast against anybody trying to do their jobs well. i grew up with people who were secret service agent and the vice-president giving personal time, family time, disruptive, holidays, et cetera. having said that, yesterday, listening to what the acting director said is that he certainly, you know, to me,
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followed this story from butler, there were no major revelations and some of the things that we heard, we also heard through whistleblowers and other people and however, i think one of the things he said there needs to be a paradigm shift. let me go into that, he talked about the changing threat environment. yes, the threat environment has been changing and the question why hasn't that been kept up with over the years and why now, all of a sudden it needs to be looked at. an interesting study, david, last year by the university of southern california davis to add to political violence. they said there was a small, but concerning group of people that feel like violence is a means to an end. paraphrasing for political gains. you know, that, combined with the foreign influence you just mentioned, perhaps iran, other threat actors around the world are either trying to influence our elections or who have a direct threat against let's say former president trump and could have threats against former leaders in the future. it does give a concern as to
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what they're doing and how the paradigm shift will deal with increasing threats. david: the one thing i appreciated happening on sunday coming from president trump, he went out of his way to praise the secret service agents that were on the field with him. >> yes. david: that literally saved his life. his gratefulness for their service, i would say, matches your gratefulness as well because of what you've seen in your many years. we have to restore the faith in these institutions that keep us safe and a lot has to be done to do that to really get to the heart of the matter of what's affecting these institutions right now, but, bill, we have to leave it. i'm so sorry, good to talk to you and see you. >> thank you very much. >> likewise. david: will energy prices heat up? depends who is in the white house. and we'll ask former energy secretary rick perry. he joins us next. call them the young and
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>> oil prices gushing 4.8% higher this week. the biggest weekly gain since february. despite or maybe because of the rate cut. and will the rate cut have any more influence on energy prices? let's ask u.s. energy secretary and former texas governor rick perry. i saw a sort of a similar related jump in gold prices, i think, this week and i think it does relate to the drop that 50 basis point drop in rates
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because there are more inflationary pressures now at work. both in gold and in oil. what do you think? >> yeah, i think everybody recognizes that the decisions that are made in washington d.c., they're driving inflation, having as much to do with these commodities as anything, particularly oil and gas and particularly gold. so, you know, we're not going to get away from that. supply and demand still works as much as the biden administration might not want us to think that, certainly, vice-president harris and her policies, there's not giving anyone comfort that they actually have a plan to deal with inflation or to deal with the spending that's going on. so, the markets are pretty true. david: well, when you're spending more than twice what you're taking in in tax revenues as we showed earlier, you have got to expect there to
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be an inflationary effect. and kamala harris continues to say that she's changed 180 of her views on fracking and on oil in general, that, even though she was for banning fracking just a few years ago, she now claims that she's for it. it may have a lot to do with what's happening in pennsylvania at the polls, but here is our own lawrence jones went to some fracking bases in pennsylvania and here is how they reacted to kamala harris. roll it. >> kamala harris is the vice-president. was once against fracking. >> there's no question i'm in favor of banning fracking. >> she says that she's now for fracking. do you believe her. >> no. >> whatever she can to make people sway her way to get the presidency. >> the sentiment around this whole region, nobody believes that. >> i don't believe anybody this that administration. >> what do you believe happens if she becomes the president. >> you're going to have even more regulation. you're going to have people that banks aren't going to want
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to invest and you're going to see people move out of the areas where the drilling and gas is. david: so these folks, obviously, governor are talking their book, but they don't believe her claims to change. do you? >> well, the people of pennsylvania, you know, the three great lies in the world is check's in the mail, i'll still love you in the morning and from kamala harris, oh, i'm going to be for fracking. [laughter]. >> trust me, everybody realizes that she is telling them what they want to hear for their votes. i hope that a blue collar pennsylvania worker doesn't fall for that because they will come up with ways to strangle the oil and gas business in previously pennsylvania. you're going to see jobs loss and more reliant on foreign oil if these individuals and their radical, environmental friends get to take over the white house and get to run it for four more years. david: if biden-harris cared about fracking that much, wouldn't they have turned
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around the ban-- well, it's a because they're calling it, turning into a ban for liquefied natural gas exports. >> and it's them playing their word games. they call it a pause. the lng facilities take years to build and you've got to have stability in the market, so to speak, i'm talking about the financial markets to be able to build one of these big multi-billion dollar plants and when they see the and here the biden-harris administration talk about a pause, that basically sends a powerful message to not only the oil and gas people, but they take a step back and that will affect supply and demand going into the future and it will affect our national security aspect in the foreign markets, of which we were delivering that. david: governor rick perry. always a pleasure to see you, governor. thank you for coming in. >> thank you, david. godspeed. david: tensions rising in the
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>> israel preparing for a quote, new era of war after the
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attack that prompted devices to explode all across lebanon. nobody's ever seen anything like it. and to nate foy in tel aviv for potential attacks and retaliation, nate. >> since the attacks, tensions certainly increasing on the northern border and today israel and hezbollah continuing to exchange fire in the past couple of hours and israel says it's struck thousands of hezbollah launching barrels pointed at israel ready to fire. take a look at the new video from the north today. the cross border fire has escalated since the attacks in lebanon this week. just yesterday, hezbollah launched 200 rockets into northern israel, meanwhile, israel conducted its third air strike over beirut since the start of the war. the death toll from that is now at 37 with dozens more wounded. at least 16 hezbollah terrorists were killed in that strike, including ibrahim
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akhil, the head of the unit and one of the top two leaders. he was wanted for his role in the 1983 u.s. embassy and marine barracks bombings were beirut. and meanwhile, they're accusing of war crimes for detonating hezbollah communication devices. at least 37 people were killed and more than 3400 others injured in two rounds of explosions across lebanon in syria this week. meanwhile, in gaza city, an israeli air strike killed 22 people in what used to be a school. israel says it targeted a hamas command center there. the gaza health ministry says most of those killed were women and children. up on the northern border, hezbollah promises to continue firing on israel until it reaches a cease-fire deal with hamas, the u.s. continues to try to broker that deal, but right now, david, it does not appear to be close. we'll send it back to you.
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david: the guy that was killed, killed 220 of our u.s. marines in beirut. it was a devastating, destructive act. nate, thank you very much. please stay safe. so could we see a wider war in the middle east in centcom general, thank you for being here. it sure looks like israel is trying to preempt a hezbollah attack or invasion into israel. do you think they'll succeed? >> well, they are-- first of all, it's great to be with you, david. david: thank you. >> i think they're doing a lot of the right things right now. they're clearly trying to exploit the disarray sewn into hezbollah by virtue of the last week or so. i think what israel's strategy is here is to, again, force hezbollah to come to the table and avoid another war of attrition on their northern front. they have a goal, they want people to get back into their homes and they want to figure out a way to do that and one of
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the ways is through this extraordinary military pressure of applying dinner tools, sab sabotage, strikes against launches and strikes against key leaders having a devastating effect on hezbollah right now. david: by the way, these pager bombs are just extraordinary. had you ever seen anything like it at all in modern warfare? >> well, again, i won't talk too much about this. i mean, we have special operations capabilities, and certainly the israelis do, and you know, we develop these types of unique capabilities to give our decision makers lots of options, clearly the israelis have refined that and were able to do this at a large scale here. david: now, you say it was successful. obviously, it did have a chilling effect on the hezbollah terrorists and perhaps iran, their paymasters. but there are certain u.s.-- i know, i'm not going to put
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you in the political cross-fire here yet, bernie sanders saying we should cancel a $20 billion contract to sell arms to israel because of it. aoc's saying that it was devastating and there were innocents that were killed in these explosions, apparently, as well, or at least severely injured. what do you make of all that? i mean, of the fact that some people are saying that that is evidence that we should withdraw some of our support for israel? >> yeah, well, as you pointed out just a few moments ago here, ibrahim akhil is responsible for a couple hundred american deaths and shakur who was killed about a month ago, and 300 american citizens were killed on their orders and so, this is hezbollah. they're a designated terrorist organization and israel has to have the means to go after them. they're designated by us as well. david: well -- go ahead.
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>> as i look at the various techniques they're using here, they are attempting to apply the principles of military targeting, and military necessity, for certain i think are all in this. again, none of this is perfect and it's tragic that there's any innocent civilian lives taken in this, but, again, this is a very, very difficult situation. i think withholding support to israel is probably not the right approach at this particular point. david: by the way, hezbollah, it's not just the united states outside of the middle east that's suffered. argentina had a devastating attack on a jewish facility years ago, and they are an international terrorist organization, but of course. >> that's right. david: their money comes from iran. their support comes from iran. one of the people who had the pager low up was apparently the ambassador to lebanon from iran. so we had, under the previous administration, a maximum pressure campaign against iran
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that essentially economically brought them to their knees. now that was removed by the biden-harris administration. should we put that back on? was that an effective way of keeping iran at bay? >> well, i think you're hitting on the most important point here and that is behind all of this is iran and we have to have a strategy that holds iran accountable and causes them to change behavior across the region. and i think we have to leverage all the tools that are available, whether it's economic tools, whether it's diplomatic tools, or military tools to hold iran accountable and bring them to heel on this situation. and it all comes back to iran. david: yeah, general votel, you make a lot of sense. unfortunately there's not a lot of common sense inside the beltway these days. we'll see what happens. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, david. david: pennsylvania's three-mile island get to reopen
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two over my right shoulder, left of the screen. that's the reactor that melted down in 1979. we've got pictures that show kind of what that scene was like back then. folks, thousands of folks evacuated from their homes, radioactivity spewed into the environment, fears all around. still arguing about the health impacts of that all of these many years later. back other over my other shoulder, make you see reactor one. that was not impacted, it was put back online and then shuttered again though in 2019. that's because it wasn't profitable. but now, microsoft offering if that reactor comes back online to buy the power from it, all of the power from it for 20 straight years from its owner constellation energy. microsoft saying in a statement that the company is seeking to enable a decarbonized grid for our company, our customers and the world and will bring a significant supply of net new
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carbon-free electricity to the power grid recognizing the importance of nuclear energy. nuclear energy advocates thrilled by the news. we talked to one of them about the safety of nuclear power now compared to 1979. >> i mean, just like our phones, right, there's an evolution, a generational upgrade with every tech following so the restart of three mile island is a huge market signal. we have reactors currently shut down that can be restarted. >> among those that could be restarted the palisades in covert, michigan, 1.5 million in a federal loan to become perhaps the first nuclear power plant to be restarted. this one here, maybe by 2028, turning what was the poster child for nuclear disaster into what could be the poster child for the future of nuclear power thanks to the voracious appetite for energy from ai.
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>> well, the young and the jobless may be facing new hurdles. a new survey revealing many employers are hesitant to hire gen z-ers citing lack of motivation, professionalism and communication at the workplace. is that fair as these up and comers try to get in the door? joining me is entertainment correspondent charley langston.
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and it may be critical because we could be facing a recession. we saw a big drop in rates and some people fear it's because the fed chair sees something that we haven't seen yet, the coming of a recession, and that could make getting a job harder. is there a bias by employers against an entire generation of workers? >> you know, i think that a lot of employers are looking at what they have seen in the workplace. so i don't know that it is a bias that isn't fair because a lot of the employers who were part of this survey said that they've hired gen z employees and what they've seen from a lot of them, they do not have the same motivation as people from older generations and also they don't have the workplace etiquette they believe is required for someone that they want to employ. they talked about a lack of communication skills, they talked about awkward behavior, and inability to dress appropriately, and i think the
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issue that we have here is that gen z workers have not had the same experience as older people. a lot of them entered the work force during the pandemic when they were working from home. their interoffice relationships were all being done over zoom or, you know, google meets so they don't have the skills required to be considered really good workers. david: well, we have somebody now, comedian ali green joining us, she couldn't possibly work at home because she needs an audience to get paid. what do you think, this is essentially a generation that you're right there with. is there-- do you see a lack of interest, a lack of motivation on the part of your yellow gen z-ers. >> and they tried it with comedy, zoom shows which was a nightmare. david: i can't imagine. >> and if people didn't like the show, they'd close their computers and how people disappear into the abyss.
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i mean, yeah, i think that gen z they've been trained basically that they have a list of things that the job offer has to entail. they're actually interviewing the person hiring them. am i going to get fridays off. am i going to be able to take vacation days. is there going to be a pool table in the workplace that i can, you know, use as an emotional support tool. it's gotten to the point where i think, you know, the workplace, they try to create this atmosphere that's less stressful and more fun and that's not necessarily conducive to work. i think a lot of people think you just have to focus on the job at hand and gen z doesn't think that way. david: charlie, is there a way to train people to be more considerate, more enthusiastic or motivated or if you're not trained at that way by your parents, it's really hard to learn? >> i think it's an incredibly difficult thing to learn the older that you get. look, employers are not looking
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to give people educations in how to be a good employee. they want you to work for them and not the other way around. similarly, when you're in college and things like that, you really should already have the skills required to self-motivate and to know what it means to work hard. so, i do think it has to happen at home with the parents, with the aunts, the uncles, the friends of the parents. gen z needs good role models to look up to, but they also need a little bit of a kick up the butt in order to get out there. because a lot of them they look at social media and they think that they can become millionaires by filming themselves in their bedrooms. that's not going to motivate them to go and get a real 9:00 to 5:00 job. david: there's no motivation like a growling stomach. eventually, they're going to have to learn that. i mean, we have -- there's also the question of workers being forced to come back to the work force or the workplace as opposed to working out of their
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bedroom. amazon just announced they're forcing a lot of workers back from their homes, et cetera. so it's going to be very simple. either you have rich parents who can bail you out for you've got to change your habits in order to get a job. >> yeah, i think so. i think they'll consider that transgressions, that people want them to come into the office. they feel it's a punishment of some sort. they don't realize this is how it's always been done. and i think the rich parent thing. hopefully the parents are ready to -- like charlie said, give them a kick in the butt and make a living. you can't live in the basement and make videos unless you're mr. beast. david: what about bringing people back in. we've only got about 30 seconds. bringing people back from their homes to work tin the office itself. is there a whole new training going on because people have forgotten to do that? >> you've got to teach people they can't wear sweat pants to the office, first and foremost,
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to communicate with one another, polite, not to eat tuna fish sandwiches next to another person. they sound like basic human skills, but a lot of people working at home simply don't have them. david: it's amazing. it really is extraordinary. i'm hoping and praying-- by the way going a gen z-er myself, and has a child, and you can come into the work force and be a gen z. appreciate it. thank you everyone at home for watching. neil, you'll be happy to learn, will be back next week. for now, stick with fox and that donald trump rally is coming up in about two hours from now. it's in wilmington, north carolina. you don't want to miss it. fox news live with griff jenkins and alicia acuna starts next.
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