♪ howard: one thing we can with all agree on, the second

assassination attempt against donald trump last sunday at his florida golf club is appalling and do despicable. it is the second straight failure by the secret service which did not secure the golf course and the 58-year-old convicted felon might well have succeeded if a sharp-eyed agent hadn't spotted the tip of his gun through i the fence and opened fire. this is simply unacceptable, and trump's security must be increased. but it is there that any media con consensus breaks down. trump reacted by telling fox news digital he believes the rhetoric of biden and harris, and he acted on it. their rhetoric is causing me to be shot at. let me just number in and say -- jump in and says anyone who tries to kill a candidate or does a mass shooting is by definition crazy. but these two two attempts in two months are fueling a firestorm of debate with the media's role front and center about whether kamala harris side or the trump side is more responsible for fostering a climate of violence.

>> donald trump's had it. two shots, that's enough it, and he laid the blame squarely on the left. and instead of having a little bit of self-reflection, the left got defensive, and they said, no, you're responsible for people trying to kill yourself. >> if donald trump wants people, wants kamala harris and others to say -- to stop saying that he is a threat to democracy, then he should stop threatening democracy. >> stop calling donald trump a threat. i mean, people have tried to kill him more than once now. >> in both cases the individuals were not minorities, undocumented immigrants or someone from haiti or venezuela. nope, they were white guys with guns. >> the memo clearly went out early sunday, continue the attacks on trump unabated. do not let an assassination plot interrupt their rage and revenge tour. howard: it's pointless to call for the pundits and politicians to exercise some restraint during this overheated presidential election, but these gunmen and the failures on these

near misses are signs of a deeply troubled country. i'm howard kurtz and this is "mediabuzz." ♪ howard: j.d. vance has been the former president's point man many blaming liberals for inflammatory language that has made donald trump, they believe, the target of would-be with assassins. >> the big difference between conservatives and liberals is that no one has tried to kill kamala harris in the last couple of months, and two people now have tried to kill donald trump in the last couple of months. i'd say that's pretty strong the evidence that the left needs to to tone down the rhetoric and needs to cut this crap out. howard: but with the senator saying no one should call trump a fascist, cnn host abby phillip has put together this montage. >> this is communist, this is

marxist, this is fascist. there's a radical-left, marxist, communist fascist. she's a marxist, she's a fascist. they're scum, they're scum, and they want to take down our country. they are absolute gash aage. garbage. howard: joining us now to analyze the coverage in new york, guy benson, fox news contributor, and in san diego, laura fink, political analyst and ceo of rebel communications. guy, when donald trump. says democrats are to blame for the assassination attempts and much of the media loudly proclaim trump to be a danger and use hitler analogies and so forth, is his argument fair? >> i don't think it's the fair. i don't think it's fair when either side does it, but what trump is doing here is using the left's standards against them or at least trying to hold them to the standards that the media often erects whenever there's

any pretense whatsoever or any possibility of blaming the political right or conservative rhetoric for any sort of act of violence or or threat. we get lectures about toning down the rhetoric and a climate of hate and dangerous words. and when the violence or threats flow the other way, the media generally does not apply that to the left. they're on the left, most of them, and the neat little trick that they're trying in the last week or so is the to actually blame trump's words for the violence targeted at him. so it seems like in a lot of newsrooms the style guide is political violence are, political threats. if it's going to be tied to words or rhetoric, it is always the republicans' fault no matter who the target might be, and i think that drives a lot of americans up the wall. howard: laura, you might want to respond to that, but also my point earlier when trump says, donald trump says that these would-be assassins are shooting at him because of harsh democratic rhetoric, again, most

of these people we talk about what's their notive, they're nutknobs -- motive, they're nutjobs. >> and and i know nutjobs with access to automatic weapons which is also a -- >> not automatic. >> if i was a republican and a trump supporter and i had seen my presidential candidate shot at and hurt once, i would be disturbed and i would be upset. and i think you see that from that condemnation of the violation from the top of the democratic text. i think i want -- you want to be careful here though because creating a false equivalency, when you look at a man who has built his reputation on division and incendiary language and, in fact, sometimes overt references to violence, this is the not, you know, you don't need a fact checker to look this up. so i would say this, when j.d. vance calls for it, if it is not a political device and it's a real call to tone down the rhetoric, the easiest way to create change is at home. so when he is asked about the 30

bomb threats based on his condemnation of immigrants in springfield, ohio, he can do that right there. and i think that donald trump can do that too from the top of the ticket. howard: we will talk about that in another segment. but, guy, when trump turns around and says the democrats are a threat to democracy because they have been weaponizing law enforcement against him and calls kamala harris a up communist and a fascist -- a communist and a fascist who would lead us into world war iii, by the way, isn't he being equally harsh amid all this finger-pointing? >> yeah, of course. there's very heated rhetoric on both sides. only one side's relate reck gets blamed for things like what we've seen twice in the last three months. number one, i think it's important to be careful and accurate when we're talking about issues like firearms. these are not automatic weapons, these are semiautomatic weapons, that that's a difference. number two, the false equivalence, we can talk about that, but what we have seen if we're looking at a scorecard here is two assassination

attempts against donald trump, zero, thank goodness, existence the democratic ticket, so i'm not sure those arguments hold a lot of water given the actual real world outcomes this we've seen. if we want to blame rhetoric which i generally regent across the board. but this is the game both sides play at a this point. and finally, i'm sorry -- >> is that the measure though. >>? >> hang on one second -- pardon me? howard: go ahead, guy. >> i was just going to say -- >> oh, i just was asking if that was the measure. if that was the measure, given the number of threats, given the tenor, given the tone, given the repeated statements inciting violence including at the capitol and against election workers. i'm just wondering what your measure is here, because i just don't think it's as a simple as all that. and i think reducing it to those sort of simple tropes, it's not -- it doesn't advance the conversation. >> all right. >> if we want to stop political violence, we have to look at it realistically. >> i'm trying to be evenhanded about it, if we are having a conversation about political

rhetoric, we can note that one side's presidential nominee has a now been targeted for assassination twice in the last three months. the last point, howie, i just have to say it, the bomb threats in ohio have now been confirmed by governor of that state to be from a foreign, actor -- howard: yes. >> -- not a result of donald trump's rhetoric -- howard: or j.d. vance's. >> that is a false claim, to blame him for that and not this foreign, apparent foreign interference by a hostile government. drawing a line to that is baseless. howard: well, a lot of that revolved around j.d. vance. guy, as long as i've got you, it seems like media moved on really quickly after last sunday's attempted shooting at the florida golf course which actually the came close to succeeding. and it was kind of like, all right, he's okay, let's move on. what were the latest polls. why is that in. >> well, i don't think it's a

helpful narrative to the media because they want donald trump to lose, is humanizing him or making him feel like a sympathetic figure is not really onboard with the general narrative that they want to paint about him especially in the final stretch of a presidential election that's very competitive. so they're the like, all right, check the box, we did some coverage. he survived it, let's just move on to the next thing. and that's disturbing regardless of where you come down politically. there should be no normalization of serious assassination attempts against presidential candidates. that should not be a one or two-day news cycle and then we move on. and if, god forbid, the parties were reversed in this case, there is a 0.0% chance that we would have moved on from it in the news news media, especially if the alleged shooter was an outspoken supporter of donald trump, for example, as we've seen the allegations around this florida shooter and his political alliances. howard: one of the most

sickening things i've seen was this tweet by the new hampshire libertarian party which said anyone who murders kamala harris would be an american hero. it's just unthinkable, and that got these bozos a visit from the fbi. laura, do media have a responsibility now even as both sides trade harsh charges and countercharges to lower the temperature just a little bit across the political spectrum, liberal in the middle or on the right, or does it just reward outrageous conduct because those are sound bites that get endlessly replayed? >> you know, media's not a monolith, so i think you see different media outlets handling this differently. to respond to the volume of coverage or the follow-up coverage on the assassination trump -- attempt on trump, the ability with which the media moves on, you can't say that's politically motivated necessarily. this is also something that happens with gun violence

against children, with the mass shootings that we see over and over again. we see it dominate the news cycle for a couple of days, and then we all move on. so i would say that if you're going to condemn the media for its moving on from donald trump's assassination attempts, you can see that the problem is much deeper than that as we confront gun violence in this country and the deeper truths and problems and our inability to sort of confront it generally with policy and rhetoric. howard: yeah. guy, if president biden would just declare that donald trump should get the same level of secret service protection as if he were president, the attack last sunday never would have of happened because they would have shut down golf course while he played. what the hell is taking so long? >> it seems like they're finally getting around to that, that's what we're hearing now from the secret service and i know there was a bill passed in the house to that effect as well beefing up security. but this is too late, right? that should have happened the moment that the butler attempt failed by a centimeter to kill donald trump. he should have been boosted up

to presidential level -- howard: yeah. i think we can agree on that. by the way, kamala harris' campaign contacted me yesterday accepting the cnn debate for late october, but donald trump coming back and saying, no, it's too late, early vote has started. when we come back, the contrast between how a black journalists group treated kamala harris and donald trump. and later, thinking about wants to ban propaganda? ♪ ♪ -- hillary clinton wants tove ba mn propaganda? to your monster to-do list . super helpful. . see if you can save money at progressivecommercial.com. thank you. have you tried these new febreze car vent clips? the new intensity dial gives you total control.

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howe kamala harris was treated rather gently by the national association of black journalists with many questions along the lines of tell us a about your programs. >> your opponents have at times weaponized you laughing in campaign ads, for example. why is joy important to you to

insert into this election? howard: but when donald trump appeared before the group weeks ago a, this was the first question: >> you have pushed false claims about some of your rivals from nikki haley to former president barack obama saying that they were not born in the united states, which is not true. of you have told four congresswomen of color who were american citizens to go back to where they came from. you have used words with like animal and rabid to the describe black district attorneys. you've attacked black journalistses. why should black voters truths you after you have used language like that? >> well, first of all, i don't think i've ever been asked a question so, in such a horrible manner. howard: guy benson, is that almost unbelievable contrast in the treatment of kamala and trump suggesting to you that the nabj is just another liberal advocacy group? >> that is quite a contrast that to you just plaided.

on one hand, why are you such a liar and a racist? on the other hand, why is joy -- howard: -- not sound joyous this morning, by the way. [laughter] >> i also would love a memo on the joy kamala harris elicits from the 982 of her staff -- 9 8% of her staff who leave her office. we don't hear very much from them when they talk about joy over there. other questions in the interview of harris were a bit tougher. there are so few opportunities of journalists to the ask mig of kamala harris, let alone follow-up questions. we saw a few of them at that forum, and what's interesting is, howie, nbc -- hardly a harris-hostile organization -- they wrote up that event in a way that was not very flattering to her saying that she was evasive repeatedly, she would rah ramble and filibuster and avoid real responses to to some of the questions to the point that the audience got antsy. a generally friendly audience, there were murmurs of

dissatisfaction multiple times over the course of that event -- howard: right. >> -- because she was clearly not answering questions. and i would encourage people to go back and watch the very end when she shakes the hand of all three journalists and walks a off the stage, the journalists -- the three of them up there exchanged some looks, like, what just happened -- can. [laughter] howard: let me get laura -- >> the it's actually an interesting clip. howard: it's not that the questions weren't legitimate, but most were sort of framed from the left, especially on the situation in gaza, and in the 45 minutes, laura fink, there was not a single question about any of her flip flops, inform -- any of her changes in position from the left-wing stances she took just four years ago. >> well, i want to make a couple points first, howie, and that is we didn't take the first question and compare it to the first question. the first question she was asked was from the reporter from politico which said can you really say americans are better off today than they were four year ago, using trump messaging and throwing her that question.

so i would agree with my colleague that these were tough questions. they pinned her down on issues that are difficult for anyone to answer right now if you're coming from a democratic position. the war in gaza was something, talking about the economy, talking about the things that i hear republicans say all the time they want her to be asked. and then with respect to trump, i will say this, him complaining about that first question from rachel scott after his long history of demonizing black journalists and really saying all the things that she said is like an arsonist complaining about the heat. s just wild to me. and, frankly, haste pawker in was on that a panel, and i'm sure she had some questions that were favorable to trump potentially or that would allow him to address some of the stickier issues in a way, in a favorable setting. so i just wonder, i wonder if he hadn't melted down at that question like he did in the debate, like he does everything time he gets behind the -- every time he gets behind the microphone, would we be having a different discussion right now?

howard: putting everything he ever said in the first question, i thought, came off as a personal attack. guy, when one of the reporters asked about gun control, again framed from the left, the vice president gave her standard answer about we need to ban assault weapons, but the reporter said is i asked about handguns, and kamala kind of ducked that. finish. >> well, she ducked everything. she doesn't have substancive answers on anything. she has no explanation for all the many flip-flops in her positions. she has rehearsed, memorized answers almost verbatim from what she prepared for the debate, and she preets them. and in the rare instance of follow-up questions, that's not really her jam which is why she avoids these types of interviews altogether -- howard: right. >> -- to the greatest extent possible. and that's what we got on that first question, are americans better off today, that's a completely fair question. she's been in charge for almost four years and her answer was, surprise-surprise, well, look, i grew up a middle class kid, almost copy and pasted from that debate answer.

howard: i would quibble only that biden was in charge for most of the four year. but, laura, by giving boilerplate answers, she's not making news, and we're now back to the an environment after a month of being shut out where donald trump is making news all the time even putting aside the awful assassination attempts. i've got about half a minute. >> donald trump's making news and he's not making news. he's not making news when he takes a town hall away from an autoworker and gives a 10-minute answer about nuclear weapons and winding around and and then eventually lands on tariffs? that sort of incomprehensible response is one that would have been attacked as senility if biden were a9 the temperature of the the ticket, but here we are finish the at the top of the ticket. kamala harris as improved d has improved her favorability, so it's wild to hear questions about her tack takes as she seeks to introduce herself with voters. it's wild to to me that she's doing so well and climbing and has the momentum, and we hear

all of these critiques about her answers. the american people clearly disagree. howard: right. and trump did post things like i hate taylor swift, and everybody talks about it. laura fink and guy men southern is, thanks so much. -- guy benson. catch guy benson tonight, 7 eastern on "the big weekend show." up next, a big twist in the media debate over haitian, dogs, cats in ohio and, later, the devastating indictment against sean diddy combs. ♪d ♪we safelite came right to us, and we could see exactly when they'd arrive with a replacement we could trust. >> vo: schedule free mobile service at safelite.com. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ choice hotels is a family of brands with a hotel

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howard: donald trump warned at the debate that haitian migrants in springfield, ohio, are eating your cats and dogs, j.d. vance echoed that claim which has been debunked by officials. >> can you affirmatively say now that that is a rumor that has no base, basis with evidence? >> i have to create stories so that the american media actually pays attention to the suffering of the american people, then

that's what i'm going to do. howard: joining us now, griff jenkins, fox news correspondent and anchor. just as one example p senator if vance's office cited a missing cat. a "wall street journal" reporter actually went to the springfield, pound the owner and said that miss sassy had been lost in the basement for a couple days, and she apologized to her neighbors. [laughter] >> well, let's start with the fact that there's no shortage of cat memes now courtesy of j.d. vance -- howard: some of which are funny. >> but i think karl rove pit best when he wrote this week in the "wall street journal" that the vance -- the trump-vance campaign has yet to to convince a single ohio pet owner who's mourning fluffy or fido who was barbecued by haitians. i think the larger point is a valid one which is with less than 45 days, there's simply no time to to waste on things like this when your job is to drive home the overriding failures of,

you know, inflation and the border crisis. now, i will say -- howard: you're saying the story was a dog. >> exactly. [laughter] howard: i just want to note that republican governor mike dewine says he told vance that these educations were garbage and -- these allegations were garbage, and yet trump's running mate seems to be repeating them. >> in that clip you heard vance say if he has to create, then he's going to do it to raise a larger point. but i would argue to you, howie, that what vance created was a distraction from the real crisis hitting springfield. i've covered this issue i pretty extensively, interviewed the ohio attorney general who's looking at suing the government because of the biden-harris controversial chnv program that's brought over 200,000 haitians into the u.s -- howard: they have protective status because the other side calls them illegal immigrants. >> right. but springfield's a population of 60,000, 20,000 haitians are there, and so -- howard: that's a real problem.

>> they can't sustain it, and yet they're talking now about whether or not pets are getting eaten which is, i think, a disreaction. howard: does it, in the end, focus media anticipation on immigration many a way that benefits a trump ticket? if. >> not when it's not being taken seriously. and you can't argue that we're putting a spotlight with such little time left on how things like this program and bringing in these haitians to communities like springfield needs to be reverseds which is the argument that vance should be making. instead it's the cat memes and the dog memes. howard: well, to the senator's credit, i mean, some people blamed j.d. vance for a series of bomb threats in springfield which closed down schools, hospitals and so forth. it's a ludicrous suggestion, i think, that some public figures are being held accountable, but now we know those threats came from a foreign country. i think vance is vindicated on that point. >> i think it's unfair to blame vance -- the. howard: yeah. >> -- for the bomb threats that came. as you point out, from from a foreign country.

but at the end of day, what was lost maybe here was an opportunity to lean into the fact that you have communities all across america like springfield that have the same problems with haitians coming in. we've got bill melugin reporting on migrants that are raping and committing crimes up in nantucket and other small communities. but yet here we've got vance being unfairly blamed for bomb threats coming from a foreign country and yet people are still talking about cat memes. howard: but the dogs and cats are safe. griff jenkins, thanks. hillary clinton wants to outlaw propaganda, but doesn't that trample on free speech? ♪ ♪ this kia turbo-hybrid is built for all the things you've yet to do. like taking a long drive. just to throw a monster tailgate party at an away game. ♪ brisket anyone? ♪

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this kind of propaganda and whether they should be civilly or even in some cases criminally charged is something that would be a better deterrence. howard: the former presidential candidate also said this -- >> i don't understand why it's so difficult for the press to have a consistent narrative about how dangerous trump is. howard: joining us now from new york, or caroline downey, a staff writer for national review and jessica for love, cohost of "the five." jessica tarlov. caroline are, the former presidential candidate, senator, secretary of state wants to allow criminal charges for spreading propaganda, and who draws the line between outright activism and outright prop gab da? >> -- propaganda. >> right, howie, and from hillary clinton, this sounds like the pot calling the kettle black. her own campaign propagatedded the hoax that russia interfered

in the 2016 election to delegitimize trump, and also this would be used probably unfairly as a standard. i mean, remember the 51 former u.s. intelligence officials who called the hunter biden laptop story russian propaganda -- howard: right. >> would they be hauled off to jail? and ultimately, what she's proposing is giving the russians exactly what they want. this is a gift to them because they just really want americans to distrust our political system, and this is definitely sowing that doubt. howard: jessica, it's already illegal to the spread propaganda on behalf of foreign country if you're not registered, but would you want a democratic justice department bringing charges against a republican or vice versa? who would find that credible? >> i'm not sure that anyone would. i'd like more specificity from the former secretary of state of how exactly this would be implemented. but what i think she's talking about is a larger issue around

foreign interference and also how members of the trump campaign, lawyers that worked for him, were spreading propaganda and are now being charged for their actions like the jenna ellis of the world, sidney powell, mark meadows, etc. and i think that's really what hillary's talking about. i just quickly want to pig byback off what caroline just said about the 2016, quote, russia collision hoax. robert mueller did find that russia a was trying to impact our elections. they put out, you know, they were arresting russians -- you can't go through with that, but russia did interfere in the election in order to benefit donald trump, and they wanted to benefit bernie sanders when it was during the primary. and now we've seen from the latest indictment that merrick garland put out there that they are trying to interfere or in our election again -- howard: russia, russia, russia. >> yeah, russia, rush russia, russia. howard: i want the play this sound bite in which donald trump

makes this large against the vice president. charge against the vice president. >> iran has spied on my campaign, think of this, and given the information to kamala. what's that all about? that alone should yet me electe. howard: the fbi says iranian hackers stole digital material and seven it -- sent it to the biden-harris campaign which regarded it suspiciously. politico, washington post got the same stuff, deny publish it. is that spying? >> look, howie, democrats are obsessed with foreign election interference except when they're not. they're outraged about russia, but hen then they ignore all these other malign actors because they're targeting their political opponents. and in this case, it was trump. i mean, those iranian hackers, they disseminated file on j.d. vance, doug burgum, marco rubio to multiple media outlets, but it actually goes beyond opposition research. cnn found those iranian agents

actually probably collected data that the regime in tehran could use for assassination and kidnapping plots. and then there's china. what about beijing? we just had an agent infiltrate the office of democratic new york governor kathy hochul, so there is the an imbalance of concern here. and, yes -- howard: but, jessica, there was, as you'll recall, day before the democratic convention in 2016 spying when wikileaks -- >> yeah, which donald trump -- howard: dumped a whole lot of stuff about the dnc and overshadowed the convention, and everybody published that. >> everyone did publish that. i would actually like a lot of these reporters that are saying they can't bring the material out give a puller explanation. maybe that's the theme of the day, give me a fuller explanation as to why there's a different standard this time than there was in 2016 because donald trump is not being an honest broker in the way he's discussing this now. he so cleary benefited, engaged and encouraged spying in the

20216 election because it was going to work to his benefit. hillary clinton wasn't spying on him or barack obama or anyone else who he thinks is obsessed with him. howard: i want to touch on the issue that has vice president harris most passionate, and that is abortion rights. and she was in georgia on friday, devoted the whole speech to it talking about two cases where where, according to propublica, women died either because they received delayed treatment or no treatment under the state's 6-week abortion ban. are the media basically on her side, caroline? >> they're wholly on her side. and, look, those two cases of those women that kamala a haste used to attack pro-life georgia were far more complicated than she was letting on, but the media did not afford that nuance. those two women died of complications from the abortion pill and kamala harris claimed that under georgia's 6-week restriction, women would have to

be on death's door before they could receive medical attention, and that is a patently false. the law explicitly empowers doctors to intervene in the case of medical emergencies or if the pee discuss has no heartbeat -- the fetus has no heartbeat. but the the media is affirming the falsehoods she'sen be saying at these rallies. howard: and, jessica, donald trump posted on his web site, progressive women, you'll no longer be thinking about abortion because it's the now with the states. >> yeah, that's the world's most unpopular position if you look at the polling, or what's going on in this election where we had seven state referendums on this where even in the most conservative places like kentucky women are showing up in droves to tell people, no, six weeks is not enough. and also mind your damn business. what happened to amber nicole thurman is a travesty. those doctors waited 20 the hours to give her the life-saving operation that she

need. and why kamala harris is highlighting this is not only that it's an porn issue, it's testing -- an important issue, it's something that affects half of the population, but what happened with kate cox, for instance, in texas. people were waiting saying someone is going to die, and now someone has died as a result of this. and i don't know how anyone no matter your political stripe can't be outraged about this. howard: all right offul we've got to get a break here. next, did kamala's bash with oprah make any news in and donald trump's message to jewish groups. ♪ i'm thinking... (speaking to self) about our honeymoon. what about africa? safari? hot air balloon ride? swim with elephants? wait, can we afford a safari? great question. like everything, it takes a little planning. or, put the money towards a down-payment... ...on a ranch ...in montana ...with horses let's take a look at those scenarios. j.p. morgan wealth management has advisors in chase branches and tools, like wealth plan to keep you on track. when you're planning for it all... the answer is

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evernorth health services howard: there's no shortage of a-list celebrities when oprah hosted a streaming media event with kamala harris. >> i hear chris rock is in the house. chris, where are you? chris rock is in the house. [cheers and applause] meryl streep is in the house. [cheers and applause] it felt like a veil dropped and you sort of stepped through that a veil. did that actually the -- did you feel like that? >> i felt a sense of responsibility, to be honest with you. howard: caroline's in the house and so is jessica. while there were some emotional moments, caroline, including a high school student who had been shot in class, did kamala harris he's make any news? concern herself make any news? >> welsh i'll tell you that what will legacy media saw was another joy fest for hollywood but what many undecided voters

likely saw was evasiveness on the most important issues. i'm gen-z, oprah's audience is mostly over 55. this interview did nothing to to persuade the holdouts of my generation which are very much concerned with home ownership, credit card then again city. and peggy noonan called kamala harris an artless dodger, and i think that's accurate because this was basically oprah holding kamala harris' hand as she dodged and stumbled on all the policy questions that matter to people and then she masqueraded as this gun-tote thing border hawk which i have to give her credit for, that's good strategy because she knows america is center-right -- howard: i have another topic i want to get to, so let me get jessica in on this. i'm not sure kamala harris has grasped if you don't make a new proposal, you don't make much news because all the things she threw out, we've heard several times. >> well, going a little bit deeper on the gun ownership thing was new, and it's clearly

been so effective that that there's video online right now that's gone viral of adrian alrod talking on cnn about that answer, and it's been slowed down to blur what adrian actually says the make it seem that camilla a haste was lying concern kamala harris was lying about being a gun owner. it is something that is persuasive to people. they want to hear i am a gun owner myself, and we can still have sensible protections to make sure that we don't have the level of loss of life that we're seeing. howard: right. okay, so here is donald trump talking to two different jewish groups and making some waves. roll it. >> with all i have done for israel, i received only 24% of the jewish vote. now think of this, i really haven't been treated very well, but that's story of my life. in my opinion, the jewish people would have a lot to do with the loss if i'm at 40%. think of it, that means 60% of voting for kamala who in

particular is a bad democrat. howard: let me come to to jessica on this. jews, as you know, are the 2% of the population. did trump wind up making it about himself and his grievances and what would happen if he lost? >> well, he obviously did. that's what he does with any demographic that he's with. but this is one that's particularly sensitive. i'm a jew myself. there's, what, a 300% increase in anti-semitism in this country since october 7th. protests all over campuses that have gotten violent, attacks on j jews. the rhetoric is autoof -- out of control. 80% of american jews say that they hate that kind of rhetoric. and i think that it's incredibly important that we emphasize the fact that there is a -- on the vp's residence because of kamala harris because she is married to the a proud jewish man who talks about his faith, and hopefully this will be on the white house come november -- well, january

21st. howard: caroline. >> i think it is the rampant if anti-semitism as well as the open support for terrorism among mainly democrats that is making many jewish-americans have second thoughts about their democratic loyalty. trump is capitalizing on this, and i think that's fair game. as a to to-israel voter myself, i also am perplexed that he doesn't have higher support among jewish-americans because under his administration if america's friendship with israel was never in doubt. kamala harris' position on israel is basically as a clear as mud. she snubbed netanyahu, she's called for a ceasefire which is just another word for israeli surrender. she's definitely going to the take a conciliatory approach to iran which has been attacking israel via its allies, and he said october 7th probably wouldn't have happened under his watch. he doesn't kowtow to iran, so i believe that. howard: we are out of time -- >> we feel that way because donald trump talks about us in a disparaging way constantly. he thinks it's all transactional probably because he thinks jews

just care about money. howard: thanks, guys. new york magazine has suspended olivia nuzzi for violating standards around conflicts of interest. nuzzi developed a relationship with rfk jr. that wasn't physical, she says. media reports says they were secting with pictures but should have been disclosed. i deeply regret, she says, not doing so immediately and apologize to those who are disappointed. pretty awful. kennedy says he only met her once for an interview and that produced a hit piece. think to come, sean "diddy" combs stains -- stands accused of heinous crimes and trump on gutfeld. ♪ ♪ ,4 . . ) ruri: ichi, ni, san, shi... (1,2,3,4 . . ) hina: ichi, ni, san, shi... (1,2,3,4 . . ) akari: ichi, ni, san, shi... (1,2,3,4 . . ) others: ichi, ni, san, shi... (1,2,3,4 . . ) others: ichi, ni, san, shi... (1,2,3,4 . . ) (♪)

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howard: sean "diddy" combs has been dogged birdies gusting allegations of misconduct for years. i spoke earlier with kat timpf, author of the new book, "i used to like you until." kat timpf, welcome. >> thanks for having me. howard: so diddy is charged with sex trafficking, racketeering, a whole long list here, keyed napping, forced labor, arson, bribery, drugging women to have sex with prostitutes. his lawyer says he's not guilty, but this is a massive indictment. >> it's massive, and everyone says it was kind of an open secret. but we have the phrase open secret for a reason k and that's because, sadly, this is something that has happened more than once. people said the same thing about harvey weinstein, about epstein, and, you know, it's one of these things with where you might kind of heard some things or maybe seen some things, but you also look around and what you don't see is other people saying anything about it. and you might be nervous for a number of reasons.

i mean, there is this history of violence. you might want to not cross the guy who, for example, allegedly hit a ucla football coach in the head for yelling at his son. but also on a smaller level of, or oh, how might this affect my career, i notice other people aren't saying anything. and then something happens or something's public, and then all of a sudden stuff from the past, people feel comfortable, people come flooding in. howard: yeah. i thought a turning point was when cnn, and this is graphic, i'm just giving the audience a warning, posted video. this was back in 2016. sean combs kicking his then-girlfriend cassie ventura down the hall, and it was just so appalling, and he apologized. so does this show if you're a rich celebrity and you've got a lot of lawyers that you can beat the rap for ab awfully long time? >> sadly, yes. this video is what changed everything. of after this video came out, that's when "rolling stone" finally came out with an article kind of detailing some of the stuff in his past, or there was

more lawsuits, people started coming forward because, sadly, it does take something like this because people don't want to speak out against somebody wherf power. and the person with power, they know that. that's what power is. howard: right. met me turn the to gutfeld where you had a chance to question the former and possibly future president of the united states, and you asked this -- >> there aliens at area 51? >> they were the oval office, three or four pilots, these are not people that make up -- all i know, sir, there was a round object which was going four times faster than my f-2222. howard: why on earth are you asking about aliens from outer space, and do you think he's going to the tell you? >> you never know. i mean, i feel like if there was ever someone who has been the president who might just go ahead and say it, then it would probably be donald trump. [laughter] also it was a fun show, we were all having a good time, so i was, you know, keeping it light.

not to say that i'm not seriously curious because i definitely -- if i were president, i would never get anything done. i would just want to the read all the documents that presidents get access to. [laughter] howard: it seemed like with all the cracking of jokes, it was almost like a days when trump used to go on the on howard stern's show. he seemed really up for that, even though it was really light. >> yeah, it was intended to be a light, sort of fun thing. it wasn't a serious news interview. we're there with a live studio audience that's there to laugh, and trump, i always say whether you love or hate him, have to admit that he does have good timing. howard: yes, he's got the shtick the down, and i wonder if you'll ever get a chance like this again. >> may not. howard: thanks very much for joining us, and good luck with the book. >> thank you. howard: that's it for us, we're out of time. i'm howard kurtz, the podcast is "media buzzmeter." see you next sunday. that smells good! or turn it down... hmm. nice and light.

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