>> did anybody check in with you to make sure your guys were in the right place for the event. >> they did not check in with me. >> did that mission seem unusual to you, that you were outside looking in? >> we didn't receive any direction from the secret service as far as how they wanted our sniper teams to deploy or what their actual mission would be. >> sandra: all right damaging testimony from a pennsylvania

police officer at a hearing detailing the secret service's breakdown in communications before the first trump assassination attempt. and with election day creeping closer, intelligence officials are on high alert as trump faces a major foreign threat. wow, here we go. it's already the 2:00 hour on the east coast hello and welcome everyone i'm sandra smith in new york. >> john: and i'm john roberts in washington, hi sandra this is america reports. the ongoing iranian threat to trump's life is far from over putting the secret service protocols to the test that concerned a major topic of discussion during today's hearing. >> in your experience, would that change how you operated? would that heighten your level of coordination, assets? >> absolutely, mr. walz, it would be a tremendous game changer. the current situation with the secret service being -- not being mandated to have information provided to it is a problem. >> john: and with the president of the iranian regime that's trying to kill him in town yesterday, the former president

issuing a blunt warning to iran and he is expected to speak just a short time from now about this and other matters. right now gillian turner live at the state department with more. gillian. >> reporter: hi john. we know the former president has been the target of assassination attempts by the iranian regime, or at least strategic planning but it sounds like, according to the former president himself now, he thinks iran may very well be behind the two assassination attempts right here on u.s. soil that have already taken place. take a listen. >> if i were the president, i would inform the threatening country, in this case iran, that if you do anything to harm this person, we are going to blow your largest cities and the country itself to smith reasons. >>. >> reporter: mike turner agrees saying president biden and vice-president harris must make it clear to iran that any attempt on president trump's life would be an act of war.

coming out of a senate briefing on on iran's plot to take out trump right here on u.s. soil, senator lindsay graham says he was really shook. >> i came away from that briefing beyond unnerved at the efforts of the iranian government to kill former trump officials and to assassinate president trump. no, the biden/harris administration is not doing enough. >> reporter: in new york for the u n general assembly secretary of state tony blinken says the threats from iran are very real but also that they are nothing new. >> this is something we've been tracking very intensely for a long time. an ongoing threat by iran against a number of senior officials, including former government officials like president trump and some people who are currently serving the administration. so it's something we take very, very seriously. >> reporter: take a look at this. these are current and former senior u.s. officials that are currently still getting secret

service protection because iran has active threats on their lives. it's an illustrious list of senior diplomats and national security folks right there, but, john, we also know there are others still receiving secret service protection, for example, this morning the state department announced a $20 million reward. a lot of money under the rewards for justice program for any information from the public that could lead to the arrest, the finding of the iranian government official who is behind those infamous threats against former national security advisor john bolton. they started scheming to take him out on u.s. soil back when he was the national security advisor. pretty aligned. >> john: $20 million may shake a few things loose from the trees. we'll see. gillian turner for us at the state department. thank you. sandra. >> sandra: in new york a short time ago an appeals court held arguments in former president trump's bid to overturn his

multi million dollars. arguing to a 5-judge panel that the ruling was unlawful and unconstitutional. let's bring in judge jeanine pirro cohost of the five stopping here in our studio first. we appreciate that judge. first this is one of the judges on that panel in the trump hearing who sounded very skeptical of the new york ag's argument in this case. listen. >> you've got two really sophisticated podies in which no one lost any money, and that was the point of my initial question. every case that you cite involved where there was damage to consumers, damage to the marketplace. you've got a scheme to get unsophisticated consumers to take out home loans. you have a collapse of leeman brothers. you don't have anything like that here. >> where's the victims? >> sdmat what the trump team has been telling us all along? there is no victim. no one lost money. the banks came in and said we're happy. donald trump's property was undervalued, mar-a-lago 18

million, are you kidding in palm beach on the water? and you had an attorney general who ran on getting donald trump. she picks a statute vague at best takes a misdemeanor past the statute of limitation remembers recollects it with a federal felony that the jury doesn't have to, on verdict she actually identify. everything about this case is wrong. you have a judge that was so biassed and so prejudicial as it related to donald trump that he found donald trump liable for fraud before there was any testimony before there was any trial. and the difference between the money that they want to take from donald trump and what we're even talking about is absurd. and i'm so glad to hear that judge say that because this was about valuations between private parties where nobody lost and you've got a politicized attorney general, a judge who is bias trying to take down someone they consider their enemy.

>> sandra: from one new york case to the other, mayor adams indicted says it's pay jack for complaining about biden's migrant crisis the white house just responded to that by the way. but he's charged with bribery and fraud and kerri urbahn shared her naughts the last hour i want to get your thoughts. >> the immediate thought is okay, what did turkey get in response, what was their benefit, because that's the crux of bribery and the only thing that i heard was that mayor adams pushed through a fire inspection. if it's simply that he pushed through this building being up and ready without the fire inspection in exchange for some flight upgrades, i don't know. it seems a little weak. >> sandra: your take. >> my take is very interesting to me. because, you know, i'm a prosecutor and when a grand jury indicts they indict because they think someone is guilty. but i've got to tell you, with this new weaponization of the justice department and this is

the joe biden justice department, when you look at these crimes you say to yourself, okay, wait a minute, the guy went first class instead of economy and i'm looking at the count regarding, you know, occupying a turkish consulate occupying a skyscraper that had not yet passed a fire and safety inspection. what does that mean? was it coming anyway? was he checking on it? was everybody thinking that, you know, something illegal was going on? did they pay them to approve the fire inspection? i don't know. but i have a bad feeling about this. i don't like this straw contribute tours, it's like a straw purchaser for a gun. in other words i cannot legally give you money because i'm from a foreign country but i'm going to pick john jones give him the money and he'll give it to you i don't like that because it kicks in matching funds where we get into fraud. but i was an elected official and i had all kind of disclosures that i had to file every year. what a pain they were. but, you know, they moved me, they bumped me up from business,

from economy, you know, well, what did you do? i mean, you better tell them, the u.s. attorney better be real clear on what they have. i think the problem is, all of the little minions around eric adams are scared to death they'll throw him under the bus. >> sandra: and he has some on the political left who want them out of there. >> aoc, yeah. >> sandra: aoc. >> and she has her reasons as you well know. >> sandra: this is a little what we heard earlier from mayor adams in the news conference and this is damian williams after him u.s. attorney from the southern district of new york. watch. >> the leaks, the commentary, the demonizing. this did not surprise us that we reached this day. and i ask new yorkers to wait to hear our defense before making any judgments. >> year after year he kept the public in the dark. he told the public he received no gifts, even though he was secretly being showered with them. >> sandra: you know, i just --

>> that's what i'm talking b okay, he kept the public in the dark, he didn't say it was first class and not economy. give me a break. >> sandra: yeah. >> okay, i have to tell you -- iwill he have to resign. >> i think so. >> sandra: oh. >> i think so. you know why? he has to defend himself. this is big. but, on the other hand you have williams, i don't want that person running new york city. but let me tell you something, they blew this out of proportion, the feds leak all the time. they try tarnishing little by little they leak and by the time the indictment comes out the public says oh, yeah he's dirty the feds do a dirty game themselves. >> sandra: you offer a unique perspective on that judge. thank you. it will be interesting john because he walked a way from that microphone earlier to chants of resign, resign, resign. i mean, here he is on the new york post cover this morning, i am a target. we'll see what happens. >> john: he had a whole cast of characters there that were willing to back him up and fight with him so we'll see where all of this goes from here.

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timing when this will make land fall? >> well, this is an extremely impactful and very devastating hurricane marching its way toward the big bend region of florida as we speak. we're looking at the latest advisory as of 2:00 p.m. from the national hurricane center and we are just shy of a major hurricane. what i mean by that and sandra is that we have sustained winds 110 miles per hour. once we reach sustained winds of 111 miles an hour that's classified as a cat 3 storm. >> sandra: so we're right there about to change. >> uh-huh. >> sandra: this is obviously the update we're getting at 2:00 what does the next hour or so look like here. >> the next hour or so we're anticipating it to strengthen moving to the north northeast at about 16 miles per hour and we've watched as it's really increased in that forward movement. why that's important is that it's continuing to really increase in its strength, its size. this is a massive storm. >> sandra: look at this. this is he-oh, we just lost it

there. when you look at the size of florida there and the size of the storm, it's no wonder some of the officials are describing this, if you stay and don't abide by those evacuation orders they're saying this could be unsurvivable for some of the folks. >> exactly right 16 florida counties under right now mandatory evacuation orders and the size of this storm, we are talking about tropical storm force winds sandra that extend outward from the center 345 miles. so that fully emerses the entire state of florida. then as you can see the hurricane force winds, this is impressive 60 miles out from the center. so why this is considered unsurvivable is the fact that we could see storm surge right along the big bend of florida southeast tallahassee anywhere between 15-20 feet above normally dry ground. and so when you think about that, 15 to as much as 20 feet, here's cedar key, the nature coast, this is going to be survivable for folks that have not heeded those warnings, those evacuation orders, and that's

why if this system roars ashore as a strong category 3 maybe even a cat 4 storm later tonight this could be one of the strongest storms to make land fall in this region in 150 years iuwhat can you tell us about some of the storm surges, those are some of the biggest warnings we're hearing now from officials. >> storm surge is the most deadly and dangerous aspect of any sort of land-falling tropical system so when you think about we have that counterclockwise rotation what that means is it's pushing all that water inland and i like to consider the big bend region as a catcher's mitt baseball, nowhere else for it to go it catches that water. a lot of the homes, they're lift order stilts but this could mean water into the first floor of homes lifted. >> sandra: when you consider some of the rural areas in the panhandle and some folks we know people with family in the building, they had to get out of there. this is happening fast. thank you very much for the update. >> absolutely. >> sandra: kendall smith here in the fox weather center.

thank you. >> thank you sandra. >> john: concerns are growing as the conflict between israel and hezbollah escalates. the us and its allies are calling for an immediate 21-day ceasefire to allow for negotiations. plus, vice-president harris and former president trump both touting their economic policy proposals amid the country's national debt problem. will either of their plans remedy it? brian kilmeade coming up on that.

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>> as we now face the risk of an all-out war, another full-scale war could be devastating for both israel and lebanon. so let me be clear: israel and lebanon can choose a different path. despite the sharp escalation in recent days, a diplomatic solution is still viable. >> sandra: the us leading the charge for an immediate 21-day truce between israel and hezbollah. israel prime minister benjamin

netanyahu appearing to downplay the growing calls as fears mount over a much wider war between israel and hezbollah. chief foreign correspondent trey yingst live for us. trey what is the situation on the ground there? >> reporter: sandra good afternoon. we're actually learning just two minutes ago the israelis announced they are launching new air strikes against hezbollah positions in southern lebanon. this comes after a targeted strike earlier today in the lebanese capitol of beirut. according to the idf, the top commander of hezbollah's aerial unit was taken out in that strike. it was the fourth such strike in beirut in the past week and it was directly approved by israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu from his plane on the way to the united states here in hifa we heard sirens earlier off in the distance, israel's missile defense system the iron dome was intercepting incoming fire, more than a hundred

hezbollah rockets have rained down on northern israel throughout the day after a 19-hour lull in fighting. israel continued its strikes against lebanon today targeting dozens of lebanon positions overnight and into this afternoon. the exchange of fire comes amid calls by the united states france and others for a three-week ceasefire between the two sides. this morning israeli media buzz wind reports of a possible ceasefire in the coming hours before the office of israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu quickly shot down those comments saying netanyahu actually instructed the idf to continue fighting in full force. the israeli leader left early this morning for the un general assembly. he's expected to address the body to discuss the current state of affairs in the middle east. with concerns about further escalation in lebanon where more than 600 people have been killed since last week, israeli operations are ongoing in gaza. with most of the population displaced from their homes, there are new calls for an agreement between israel and hamas to allow for more aid to

be distributed to avilleians. >> aid immediate is needed now more than ever in gaza especially that we are approaching another winter and that's going to be another tragedy for the civilian population. >> reporter: i spoke earlier today with a senior israeli defense official who indicated israel's operations against hamas will continue until they believe that families will be able to return to their homes along the gaza border where they were displaced following the october 7th massacre. sandra? >> sandra: trey yingst in israel. >> john: vice-president harris supporters calling her out for dodging direct questions in her first one on one cable interview since becoming the nominee. despite being on the democrats home turf msnbc the vice-president was still evasive when it came to explaining how she would follow through on her campaign promise. fox news contributor joe concha is here to weigh in. not only that, but we had a

famous word salad that was wrapped around the world holistic last night. watch this joe. >> looking holistically around the combination of that and housing and looking holisticically the federal government can create for local and state governments to actually engage and planning in holistic manner that includes prioritizing affordable housing for working people. >> john: all right so ainsley earhardt heard that this morning and joked it made her want to go out to the health food store. what was your reaction? [laughter]. >> that's a great joke ainsley. another grade a prime example of the democratic nominee saying so much but giving voters so little in terms of substance in terms of solutions while confusing them in the process. once again we got all frosting and no cake. i've been saying on this network ever since kamala harris was installed as the in any in mid july why wouldn't she at least do an interview on msnbc instead of avoiding a mostly friendly

press all together. i guess last night we got our answer. for example she received her first question on the economy and if her plan covered those struggling right now to keep up in their finances. and she once again shared that she grew up in a middle class family. yeah, i think we got that. she once again, on three occasions in that same answer, evoked american's hopes and dreams. and on another occasion, as you said, she said the word holisticically three times that's really hard to do. also used the phrase need to pay their fair share no less than six times during this interview six. when asked how are you going to lower the cost of living for so many under water she keeps going back to giving new homeowners a $25,000 credit toward buying a new home. okay what if i already have a home and i'm struggling and not looking to buy a new home. this doesn't apply to them. or $6,000 tax credit for new children. what if i already had children or don't plan on having children. appears the vice-president cpu

went into lather rinse repeat mode last night and showed you can only get so far as a programmed and rehearsed gpt candidate before she gets exposed and the more she speaks the more she repels the voters she needs instead of bringing them in. >> john: that's what happened in 20 nooevenlt speaking of the word holisticically she said it three times i don't think i said that three times in 14 years. the new york times did an analysis. harris had roundabout answers to open-ended questions avoided a looming scenario what if democrats lose the senate get into that in a second and a hard-hitting harris interview is still yet to come. i mean, this was more fluff. >> reporter: wow. and that's the new york times saying that, john. >> john: yeah. >> reporter: they haven't endorsed a republican candidate since dwight d eisenhower since 1956 so if they're criticizing this that will get the harris campaign's attention. in the end she has to do a press conference i would think, take a bunch of questions from different reporters in an

environment that isn't so comfortable as the foot massage we saw last night on msnbc. until she can define how she'll solve the problems that, let's face it she and joe biden helped create since they are the incumbent administration i don't think she's going to win states like pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin or arizona and nevada or georgia or north carolina because we all know who donald trump is and what he's going to do because we've seen the first presidency. the fear of the unknown is real. and if people don't know what kamala harris is going to do to make their lives better and 75% of the country think the country's going the wrong direction right now if you look at poll after poll, she's going to have some real problems. they have to define this message a lot better than they've been doing in the rare interviews they've been giving. >> john: democrats keep saying they're trying to turn the page here but they're trying to turn the page from the biden/harris administration? i'm not sure. joe great to have you with us. appreciate it. sandra. >> thank you john. >> sandra: president biden sitting down at the white house with ukraine president

zelenskyy. let's watch and listen. >> we're going to discuss today how ukraine will prevail in this conflict and i see two key piece. first, right now we have to strengthen ukraine's position on the battlefield and that's why today i'm proud to announce a new $2.4 billion package of security assistance. i've also directed the pentagon to al gate -- to allocate all the remaining security systems funding that has been appropriated to ukraine period. by the end of this, my term, which is january 20th. and this will strengthen ukraine's position in future negotiations. second, we look ahead to help ukraine succeed in the long term. as you know better than anyone, as we said at the washington summit we have to support ukraine and its path in its path to the eu and nato and continue to make reforms to counter corruption and strengthen democracy which you're working mightily on right now. we have to ensure ukraine has

sufficient capabilities. i mean sufficient capabilities, to defend against future russian aggression. so i'm proud of the steps we have a taken and our partnership on these fronts. earlier this summer we launched the ukraine compact with more than 20 nations committed to ukraine's long term security and yesterday, with over 30 nations and the eu, we launched the joint declarations of support ukraine's recovery and reconstruction. some of it using russian assets as well. and so with both these actions, we make it clear we stand with ukraine now and in the future. we've got a lot to discuss so let me close with this. these two elements are critical to how this war ends. let me be clear. russia will not prevail in war. russia will not prevail. ukraine will prevail and we'll continue to stand by you every step of the way. so thank you for being here and floor is yours.

>> thank you so much, mr. president. mr. president, thank you for your strong support for the decision of helping us protect ukraine. we deeply appreciate that. ukraine and america have stood side by side from the very first moments of this terrible russian invasion. your determination is incredibly important for us to prevail. yesterday we had, you said, we had g7 plus meeting on ukraine's reconstruction with more than participating and. we must restore normal life and we value your leadership mr. president. we also have 26 bilateral security agreements with partners based on the g-7 security declaration. we have a strong security agreement with united states, and we are grateful for it. and we will fully implement it. and it's very important that we

share the same vision for ukraine's security future in the eu and nato and ukraine is doing its number or performs on this path. today we have a new support package, $7.9 billion. this will be a great help and with president biden to victory today we discuss the details to strengthen the plan, coordinate our positions, and our teams will work together to ensure that implementation of how our future steps. and today in the morning i've met with both senate and the house, and thank you for that bipartisan support, and to all american people, together we have to win, and we will win. thank you. >> mr. president --

>> sandra: all right, we happen to know because this happened moments ago, they did not answer any questions. president zelenskyy and president biden there sitting together, bilateral kneeing the oval office and john, quite a moment and another one of these i should note at the white house. >> john: i'm struck, how many times is it that zelenskyy's been at the white house and the same thing comes out of the president's mouth and again the war just kind of grinds on. there doesn't seem to be any plan to actually end it. if you listen to donald trump, he apparently has a plan. some people might not like the idea that they think he has, but i believe that he has got a plan to actually bring this thing to a close should he be elected. >> sandra: and we are just getting notice that phoebe harris is also going to meet with zelenskyy and make remarks in the 3:00 hour. we knew the meeting is happening but sounds like they will speak as well so we'll see what comes from that john. >> john: the fighting will grind on grind on grind on unless

somebody has a plan to end this thing. >> sandra: john, we'll keep watching that. meanwhile onto this. moody's warning of a credit downgrade the national debt hitting nearly 100% of gdp for the first time since 2000 as a congressional budget office neither former trump nor vp harris leveling with the public on how to fix it. brian kilmeade one nation host and the brian kilmeade radio show host joins me now. thank you brian for being here. >> justificationing my collar. >> sandra: i just think about, whenever i say those numbers, nobody can -- if we can put the debt clock back up there. nobody can wrap their mind around that. hey, what's another zero? so for the american public they just go it's out of control, we know that. i mean, are voters concerned? is this an issue. like are they listening for how these candidates plan to fix this right now i hear more spending. >> they went on to downgrade and the other debt agency moody's said if you guys don't get it under control, if you don't show

me a path to getting down the deficit we're going to downgrade us from triple-a to double a plus which i'm not sure how that affects us long term but people look to us as a place where money is going to be safe. a couple of things come to mind. they say by 20 34 at this rate our debt is going to be 130% of our gdp which is relatively scary if this is our personal debt i think we would have a situation where it would be panic time for bankruptcy but i think they also don't see, moody's or bloomberg or anybody else, seem to like that we might be keeping the trump tax plan together. it seems like they feel as though that will add more to the deficit than it will to growth. and that won't make trump too happy. >> sandra: there was an interview last night with vp harris with stephanie rule on msnbc and they, i guess they talked about the economy and there was a bit of pressing on kamala harris's plans. >> yep. >> sandra: because they sound

pretty expensive. sounds like more money. >> there was a follow-up question? >> sandra: there was. how do you plan to pay for it? watch this. >> if you can't raise corporate taxes or if gop takes control of the senate, where do you get the money to do that? do you still go forward with those plans and borrow? >> well, but we're going to have to raise corporate taxes. and we're going to have to raise -- we're going to have to make sure that the biggest corporations and billionaires pay their fair share. that's it. >> sandra: never any specificity what that means. what's fair? >> you know what? joe biden says that. that's why she says that. billionaires have had it -- you know who else says that? bernie sanders says that, millionaires and billionaires ruining this country but i thought you love small business because 90% of the country is run by small business that's where the millionaires come from usually doing that by working 80 hours a week so i don't look at them as horrible people. she doesn't have any ideas about growth. she's putting this plan

together, there's going to be more of her picking up where joe biden left off but she has to make a major decision if she wins. donald trump's decision will be lessen corporate taxes she has to make a decision if she win toss keep the tax plan in place because if you don't keep it in place, taxes go up for everyone. and, for the record, stats show that the people who got the most -- get to keep most of their money after the tax reform was the middle class. 16% more than prior to. >> sandra: don't you feel like republicans need to articulate that. >> they never say that. just because donald trump's a billionaire doesn't mean his tax plan benefits billionaires. >> sandra: wall street journal says a national debt crisis coming. i think the entire thing is just -- >> the other thing she said if you don't mind me interjecting about the debt, she said something that went right to the president's strength and she made it a weakness and i don't think anybody's buying it. says donald trump likes the people who work in these offices i like the people that wire them and build these buildings and sky scrapers. you're wrong. he likes the people wearing the

hardhats. he likes the people that wire them. the guy likes talking about nails. he likes the infrastructure, the building part of it. that's one of his greatest assets and i would argue is why the so-called teamsters or working class, many of them see eye to eye with him and a lot of these billionaires look down on him because he doesn't act like people who have a lot of money. he acts like people --. >> sandra: you know whose plans are great mark cuban says this about harris's he con policies. listen to this. >> if you look at donald when he talks about his policies they're impetus and impulsive set to match what's happening at a rally. she takes the time to vet them properly and when she says them and presents them they are what they are they're self-explanatory. >> what do you caused do you think supermarket gouging had anything to do with -- >> no, no. >> you think it was putting too much stimulus on top of a supply constrain. >> yeah, biden and -- >> looks to me like they're not being truthful. >> sandra: the policy resist

self-explanatory. no explaining necessary p yet, when asked how do you plan to pay for it -- >> put it this way as mark tisan said to me on radio today, if kamala harris came to shark tank and presented her program before she could even be done he would say i'm out. there's a lot of ways to describe the vice-president. it's not remarkably detailed when it comes to the economy. i don't even think she would say that. but he wants to play a big role, he's very anti --'s a great guy great success story, love it but very anti trump. he's anybody but trump. john roberts has met people like that, you've met people like that, and he is one of them and he's panicked that right now kamala harris is not ready and that's why they're on constant phone calls. but i think he wants to be president and the way to do that is show yourself a good government employee and he wants to run the sec. and he might know how to do that. >> sandra: brian always good to have you. thank you very much. we didn't get to our topic two but that was just -- i hadn't put that up. >> i love that you threw the monkey in but don't forget to

watch one nation saturday. i went on the road with dave mccormick in pennsylvania, fascinating. i think you guys will really like it and also we have senator tom cotton. >> sandra: love it we'll be watching brian. thank you. all right. >> this is going to be a multi state event with the potential for significant impacts from florida all the way to tennessee, and the president wants to make sure that everyone is paying attention to the potential life-threatening impacts that this storm mabrey. hurricane helene expected to bring a potentially unsurvivable 20-foot storm surge when it makes land fall tonight. we will go live to florida for the lateest just ahead. >> sandra: plus the first hearing on the july 13th assassination attempt on former president trump's life held today. what we are learning about the widespread failures of that day. former secret service agent bobby mcdonald, he was in the secret service for 20 years, he's here to react. my mental health was better. but uncontrollable movements called td, tardive dyskinesia,

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♪ >> john: the house task force investigating the assassination attempts against former president trump holding its first hearing today. the focus was on the july 13th shooting at a rally in butler pennsylvania. lawmakers putting security lapses from state and local officials under the microscope. let's bring in bobby mcdonald former secret service agent for

20 years and former assistant special agent in charge of the vice-presidential division. did you learn anything new today bobby? >> well, john, great to be with you both. a little bit concerned with the information that came out again today, and the report from yesterday amplifying the missteps that went on july 13th. boy at this point what did go right. communication issues, leadership issues, a number of people within the report pointing fingers at each other indicating nobody knew who was in charge. that's not how we operate in the secret service. and i'm a little bit concerned and quite frankly a little bit disappointed and embarrassed that these are the type of things we're talking about with respect to that issue on july 13th. >> john: so what has happened over the years to lead to this situation? >> well, i think the secret service has unfortunately fallen into a level of complacency. you know, we haven't had maybe a lot of things go on with respect to assassination attempts in the last 40 years. you've been around this long enough to know how we operate. we may have thwarted a number of

things over the years we don't even know we've thwarted. i think we've fallen into a check list mentality, i think we're going over the motions and we need to recalibrate how we do our protective advances and make sure all elements of the protective advance come together at a seamless resolution on the day of the event. >> john: so the protective advance is one aspect of this but another is the reaction to a perceived threat. and the one thing that nobody can figure out is why, knowing that there was a potential security threat there and actually seeing officers running toward that agr building with their guns drawn, why the call never went out to take the former president off the stage? here's what task force member laurel lee told us last hour. >> it's really unfathomable that that kind of threat information, that that kind of information could be coming to them and they don't say, hey, timeout. let's get the president off the stage, get him to a safe place. and that could have changed

everything. >> john: not just let's get him off the stage but what about 27 minutes before when this guy was first spotted. why did the order not go out either from the command center or from the snipers who were on the overwatch positions to say, hey, we have a potential security situations here hold mogul until we get it worked out. >> absolutely a hundred percent. that is the question that needs to get answered. i think we need to dig deep to find out why those things didn't happen, why that communication didn't happen. the whole setup with respect to the the normal way of operation. all of those entities should be in one room looking at each other. it may seem a little antiquated that we don't have the ability to communicate on radios with everybody but in a true command post situation, everybody is sitting in there looking at each other with their own radios and able to pass information to the other entities real time. that's the way we do business. it's worked for us in the past. it works when implemented properly. it was not implemented properly on july 13th. >> john: another thing

congresswoman lee was worried about is the level of the threat against the former president. you know, you've got crazy people out there trying to take him out. you've got the iranian regime trying to mount a plot against himment you have this pakistani national who had ties to iran who's under arrest potentially for going after the former president. here's what the congresswoman said about the threat level. >> the threat environment right now, as it relates to president trump, is extreme. we know that, we've seen that. so at this point he needs to be getting every bit of available resource to make sure that he is being kept safe up to and including that which is assigned to the current sitting president. >> john: so on october the fifth he's going back to the same place the butler farm show grounds, to the same location, the same threats. what do you think will be different this time around? >> well, i hope that the secret service has now finally realized that former president trump is not our average former

president/protectee. he is the nominee of the republican party. he is a very recognizable individual. he at times can be controversial. they need to be able to bring out all the stops to secure that venue with all of the personnel needed, with all of the assets needed. we've got this indication that there perhaps were assets denied in the past or not given for a particular reason. now is not the time to be denying any assets and leaving anything in the garage. everything needs to be brought out so that that venue, when he goes back there, and every venue moving forward towards the election in november, makes sure that he has a robust security plan in place, all the assets, bells and whistles are available to give him a very robust protective platform. >> john: i would expect that we're probably going to see at least a couple agents on the roof of the agr building this time around as well. bobby mcdonald good to talk to you. thanks for sharing your expertise. appreciate it. >> thank you john always a pleasure. >> john: sandra. >> sandra: an update to the storm making its way to the

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us about how residents are preparing? i am shocked cars are still making their way over. >> yes sandra i think that is the big concern at this point. everyone should be hunting down but everyone are still out making last-minute runs trying to get themselves together for what happens later. when you mentioned helene it went to a category three. looks like hurricane hunters are a find -- finally seeing that i get together so it's strengthening through time that was the anticipation as we head into tonight. landfall later in the evening and of course storm surge looking to be a big issue for the coastline but if you are further inland and tallahassee it's these large oak trees we have surrounding me. this is a nature coast and that's what the big concern is for the city of tallahassee, will these trees withstand the fury of helene. et cetera bringing winds up to 120 mph even as far inland as tallahassee.

it's been raining off and on to the course of this morning i've been watching the radar we could have another bout of heavier rain in the next couple minutes are so. that is what's softening the ground here so with the soil being moisturized by the rain we could see some trees tumble and it's a big concern. we'll be out of power here in tallahassee over the next couple days. i can tell you residents are preparing as best as they can they have had sheltered since yesterday also welcoming pets to. we also spoke with the red cross they've been deployed here in tallahassee. expected to stay the next couple weeks there on it two weak rotation to help those in tallahassee in the event we have power that's down or homes that are destroyed by this -- of these large oak trees. tallahassee has tree-lined communities up-and-down the city with big spanish cmos trees, their bit more vulnerable and a

storm like check 15 coming moving through. i spoke with the mayor yesterday he is a bit concerned about how the residents have never seen something to the strength of helene move into the city of tallahassee is so again and major hurricane moving into the city where a lot of residents may not know what to expect. that's one of the bigger concerns. in the evening and up at this level time frame. >> sandra: okay thank you very much for the update we know we will sea more of you as this continues, it's an incredible shot there of the bridge. john this is connecting cape coral to pine island and some cars are stopping saying no i'm not going. >> john: yeah, and it's a long way from where the hurricane is headed periods places like st. mark's, right there along the coast of appalachia bay this is going to reach her metastatic make sure you sure you get out of the way. >> sandra: just saw someone driving their boat out. set your dvr adult mrs. i'm sandra smith. >> john: on john roberts, the story with marth