disaster food service could be done better. he is continuing to help thousands of people who are going to need it. >> bill: helene, to the middle east, to the port strike and tonight's debate. a big day packed with news and on throughout the day and evening hours to bring this to you. see how it goes between walz and vance. >> dana: coverage begins at 5:00 and we have brett and martha leading the coverage tonight and you'll see. i heard someone say today in a vice presidential debate not so much who wins it, it is who lose re loses it. maybe they will lose their temper. both of them good fighters for their candidates. >> bill: the debate with harris and trump had 67 million. i'm thinking there will be 40 million americans watching. >> dana: harris faulkner is up next. here she is. >> harris: we begin with breaking news. senior white house official is

telling fox an attack on israel by iran is imminent. the u.s. embassy in jerusalem has warned all government employees in israel, gaza, and the west bank to shelter in place until further notice. that same official said quote, the u.s. has indications that iran is preparing to imminently launch a ballistic missile attack against israel. we are actively supporting defensive preparations to defend israel against this attack. a direct military attack from iran against israel will carry severe consequences for iran. end of quote. we are monitoring the situation for updates to bring you as soon as we get them. we'll give them to you. we'll also be bringing in a live report from tel aviv just moments from now. and, of course, they are several hours ahead of us. it is darkness and things happen after dark. we know that.

war happens after dark. i will also speak with republican congressman brian mast who volunteered with the israeli defense force. stay tuned for that. fox news alert now. americans are already struggling under the crushing weight of high prices on everything especially food. and now bracing for the effects of a massive port strike. it is on. i'm harris faulkner and are you in "the faulkner focus." tens of thousands of dock workers from maine to texas are picketing for the first time since 1977. their contract expired at midnight. they want big wages and guaranteed job protection from automation because when things are automated, you needless human beings. the port workers union chief negotiator, well, he has a lot to say and he doesn't hold back. >> when my men hit the streets

from maine to texas, every single port, a lockdown. you know what is going to happen? i'll tell you. first week be all over the news every night. second week guys who sell cars can't sell cars. cars aren't coming off the ships. they get laid off. third week, malls start closing down. can't get the goods from china. can't sell clothes and do this. everything in the united states comes on a ship. they go out of business. construction workers get laid off because the materials aren't coming in. the steel is not coming in. the lumber is not coming in. they lose their job. everybody is hating the longshoremen now because now they realize how important our jobs are. >> harris: he is not wrong about getting us our stuff and how critical a role they play.

we could really feel this. how we got here. where is the white house? you fight when you have to at the white house to keep stuff like this from happening. is biden, is kamala harris, are this up to the fight? let's look at the crisis upon us. this administration is famous for how many times they can let a crisis happen because things went on too long without leadership. 45,000 dock workers at 36 ports from maine to texas are on strike today. a j.p. morgan analysis found it could cost the u.s. economy $5 billion a day. major retailers to small businesses are also preparing for supply chain disruptions. we could see shortages of some critical items, medical equipment, vehicles, food, clothing, and if you think the inconvenience is going to be bad, imagine how you are going to have to pay for those few things coming through? stuff is going to get higher if

this goes on too long. despite all of it, though, president biden says well, nothing. he is on the sidelines. the white house has said he would not invoke taft hartley act. that act allows the president to order an 80-day cooling off period. that gets us way beyond the christmas holidays and into the new year for a fresh look at what the union and the corporations are fighting about. that would avert a strike at this point. the white house, well, playing dodge ball, you know how it goes. let's watch. >> at what point would the president be willing to intervene. how long would he allow it to go on and at what cost? >> i'm not going to get into hypotheticals. i won't get into hypotheticals. we believe collective bargaining is important here. we believe both sides should come to the table in good faith and get to a fair agreement. >> harris: i thought she said

she wasn't going to go into detail. grady trimble is at the port of baltimore. one of the many we depend so much on, grady. >> harris, just to set the scene for you today. there are around 2400 members at this particular port. you can see a group of them on the picket lines in the rain. not deterred at all by that. 45,000 members across ports from texas all the way up to maine on strike right now. what that means for you and me is, well, you can see the effects of this strike. these cranes you see in the background are the cranes that these men and women would typically be operating but they've walked off the job and now they are at a standstill. that means products coming into the united states from all over the world are also at a standstill. our colleague lydia hu spoke to the president of the ioa this

morning. he is praising the biden-harris administration, in particular the acting labor secretary julie sioux for encouraging the two sides to come together to negotiate but the problem is a whole host of industry groups say the biden-harris administration isn't doing enough for the u.s. chamber of commerce, the national retail federation, wholesaleers are all saying the administration should invoke the taft hartley act that you mentioned so these workers have to stay on the job while negotiations continue. take a listen to the american trucking association ceo placing a lot of the blame on president biden and the biden-harris administration for this walk-out. >> it's the job of the president and this administration to bring two parties together when they can't reach an agreement. to mediate. they aren't doing that. they are encouraging this strike by revoking the option of taft hartley, you are encouraging this union to strike and shut

down this economy when our southeast united states is recovering from a natural disaster. this is the worst time to have 36 ports shut down our economy. >> it also comes as inflation has been cooling but the concern here is that this strike could lead to higher prices yet again especially if it lasts a while. as far as the cost of it to the u.s. economy, jp morgan has a high estimate at 4 1/2 to 5 billion a day. anderson economic group is putting the cost on the lower end but it is still $2.1 billion in the first week and they say it is only going to get worse as the supply chains grind to a halt and products coming in aren't able to get unloaded from ships. some of the big companies that are reliant on these imports are companies like wal-mart, costco, i kia, the list goes on. it will only get worse if this

strike goes on. >> harris: grady trimble. great reporting. you are talking to so many people. that's very helpful. charles payne is here host of making money. this feels like bidenomics, an extending of all that went wrong with decision making and not understanding the pain people feel are pricing. that they would not have fought harder to keep it from happening. >> you are right. the economics part of it missing. the entire agenda is driven about who you want to favor. and for the most part the biden administration has favored the elites, wealthy, the bidens. the whole agenda. the biden-harris agenda has favored and rewarded the wealthiest people in this country. of course, unions. but the president to say he doesn't believe in intervening particularly on the heels of this storm over the weekend is really mind-boggling. we are talking about these ports handle $3 trillion a year.

one report says $6 hundred million a day. this adds up very quickly. >> harris: yeah. it said 2.1 billion by the end of this week. >> right. again there are -- here is the thing we have to realize. there is a compounding effect. one day equals five days of repercussions, one week -- one day means the supply chain could get backed up for a week. these numbers start to add up. as we were coming out of supply chain crisis and to do it at such a vulnerable time. the lowest parts of our economic strata will get hurt the most. it may seem frivolous that were named off on pharmaceuticals to automobiles. if it lasts too long there won't be toys for christmas. >> harris: let's pause for a second about what is on those containers now. food is on those containers. now maybe some of those things can sit. food can't wait. >> bananas and perishables.

it is really amazing. >> harris: how long does it take before real quick. i want to move in. i want to get to something the commerce secretary said. how long before we see those things? do we have a month or two? >> not a month. you will see it in weeks. >> the commerce secretary did an interview yesterday but not as commerce secretary. she appeared as a kamala harris campaign surrogate hours before the strike began. >> where have you been focused and hearing on what would happen if the strike goes let's say longer than a week? >> again, i have not been very focused on that. i would refer you to the white house or the transportation secretary. >> harris: refer you to the white house? that's where kamala harris is working now as v.p. what is she talking about? >> referring to the commerce secretary, oh, hold on, wait a minute. that's me. you know, i posted on x

yesterday it's been a tight race for the most incompetent person in this administration. in the last few weeks i feel she has taken the lead over pothole pete. it is an embarrassment. this is her job. >> harris: it's dangerous. >> of course it's dangerous. it gets back to in the very beginning of our conversation. there has never been a focus on economics, never a focus on commerce. everything has been a focus on their agenda from day one. there is a massive indifference to americans. >> harris: talk to me about -- we won't get into the details of the taft act. biden could have dealt with this. we've known about this for weeks. he knew weeks ago this was -- that he was on the precipice and everybody knew they were dealing with harold dagget, the head of that union. he is a man in his power as they like to say. with all of that biden sat by,

kamala harris sat by? >> they just sat by. spoiling for a fight. we're out there fighting for unions. get out in november and fight for us. that kind of campaign slogan they like to do more than actually get things done for the nation. t this -- we're talking about a vulnerable time for economy. already trucks weren't taking the perishables. everyone in the industry saw this coming and they saw the fact the white house would do nothing about it. >> harris: you mentioned hurricane helene. we need all hands on deck to get stuff to where it needs to go. this is a dereliction of duty on their part. i read today from the white house that they were working 24 hours a day. i wish we had 39 hour days at this point. make them work harder. >> absolutely. agree. >> harris: live images from beirut, lebanon. israel is pounding hezbollah

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>> harris: this is right now what it looks like in beirut, lebanon. israel is continuing to pound that area. we just saw live images of the

aftermath of israeli air strike continuing to take out hezbollah terror targets. tensions are reaching the point of retaliation now in the middle east. this is what we were wanting to avoid. a senior white house official tells fox iran is planning an imminent miss will attack on israel. the israeli defense force pushing forward with a new phase now in its war on hezbollah. yesterday, of course, it moved in on the ground, the idf and called it limited ground operations inside southern lebanon going after iran's proxy terrorists. the people they prop up with their money. >> hezbollah plan to launch their october 7th attack from villages across southern lebanon where they have been building up their arms capabilities and forces for the last two decades. our soldiers entered hezbollah's underground infrastructures,

exposed hezbollah's hidden weapons catches and seized rareian made weapons. >> harris: they've taken out nearly all of hezbollah's command in recent weeks including their leader nasrallah just this week. nasrallah was hit inside the nation's capital precision by israel. nate foye is in tel aviv. i have a quick question. in terms of this immonen -- does it look like people are moving out of the way? i'm curious to know. that will tell us how fast iran is going to hit israel. >> well, the ground incursion as you know, harris, is underway. i can tell you an exact number. it takes 12 minutes for a ballistic missile to travel from iran to where we are in israel

right now. it's a waiting game. as you mentioned, according to a u.s. official, iran has been noticed moving its missiles in recent days. and we're expecting this attack to play out in the next 24 hours. what we don't know, harris, is the exact scale of it. the only reference point that we have is the only direct attack on israel that iran has launched, which they did in april after israel attacked an iranian consulate in damascus. that attack iran launched over 300 ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and drones but as you mentioned in your intro , this time it is different. just days ago israel took out nasrallah, the leader of hezbollah for 32 years. just hours ago israel launched a ground offensive into lebanon threatening one of iran's biggest proxies. prime minister benjamin netanyahu had the message for the people of israel moments

together. together we'll stand steadfast in the trying days ahead of us. together we'll stand and together we'll fight and together we will win. take a look at this, harris, tel aviv got hit by hezbollah rockets this morning. they targeted the mossad headquarters. two drivers got hurt by falling shrapnel. israeli special units infiltrated southern lebanon dozens of times throughout the conflict before launching its limited offensive last night. they identified and dismantled the tunnel network, gathered intelligence and hampered hezbollah's capabilities during covert operations. we anticipate this pending attack, harris, there are thousands of additional u.s. troops in the region including fighter jet squadrons that will defend israel from this attack and the u.s. says if iran directly attacks israel, there will be severe consequences for iran.

we'll send it back to you. >> harris: there is so much going on every time i see a report with you. thank you, nate foye, for getting the conversation started on this. florida congressman brian mast. let's dig into what was just reported. he served as a volunteer in the israeli defense forces and sits on the house foreign affairs committee and served for our nation valiantly as well, too. great to see you today. let's dig in. i asked a question what it looks like on the lebanese/israeli border. the reason i asked that question. if you know there is a ground incursion coming you will move some people out of the way, i get that. if you know iran will then come from another direction and join that, you will move everybody. is that even a potential? would iran do more than just hit israel by air? >> look, i think what iran has to assess in the response that they give is probably two fold. has israeli totally degraded their ability to do a short range attack by what they did on the lebanon border? have they eliminated those

capabilities of rocket and drones. are they left with only the option of doing something from a longer range? then they have to assess because remember, they aren't dealing exactly with u.s. military grade equipment in the same generation we talk about our generations of equipment. they aren't in the same ballpark or game. what can they do against the other systems of defense that are there beyond the iron dome system that gets spoken about so much, the aero system. the aerial defense system and david sling systems and others. what do they think they can do against other systems of defense? it's something they have to calculate. >> harris: you were part of the idf and i know viewers may wonder how did that come about and what can you tell us about those fighting forces? >> this goes back to what was going on in higher education years ago. i was a student at harvard back in 2014. there were constant pro tests against israel at that time. i decided one day having a

negative encounter with some palestinian supporters that i was going to go and show my support for israel. i volunteered alongside their military. it was a great experience. what i can tell you about the difference in the forces is they realize on a daily basis that they are surrounded by enemies directly on their border whether it be the tunnels that come through egypt. what comes across from gaza, whether it be what comes from the north in lebanon. they have a daily reminder of the enemy is on their border and it is just a matter of maybe 40, 50 miles for them to cut the country in half in many of those places. that's a reality for fighters on the ground. >> harris: do you believe there was coordination between hezbollah and hamas on october 7th. hezbollah began to hit israel very hard with more missiles on october 8th after the 7th attack. do you think there was coordination between those two groups? >> i absolutely believe there was coordination and that israel was wise to not take the bait.

they have been bombarded by israel for the last year. moving people out of the north. many refugees you could call them at this point. they wanted to focus on what was going on in gaza. they are moving on to addressing what has been taking place for this last year coming from the lebanon border coming into israel. this had to happen. in this i think everybody needs to ask themselves the question as they ask is this going to escalator lead to something bigger? if this was the united states of america and canada were lobbing rockets to michigan or cartels on the southern border were lobbing them into california or arizona. none of us would be asking if it will escalate. we would only be asking what capabilities we need to destroy that enemy. >> harris: the cartels are an enemy and they don't use bombs, they use fentanyl and sex trafficking and attacking women and children. >> absolutely right. >> harris: they are cowards. that's our first war down there. last quick question. what type of movement now are you looking at to say what iran

is going to do next? >> i think for them are they moving any forces that they have remaining off the border again recognizing the difference in generations of weaponry that they have? israel has to look at okay, did they only have capability to fire something that they had eyes on or lasers on or again this is going into details of different generations of technology. those have to be things israel is looking for. >> harris: great to have you in "focus." thank you for your service and expertise. five weeks out from the election, 35 days today. the trump-vance ticket and harris-walz ticking are working their separate and different media strategies. hurricane helene brought utter devastation to so many people. >> it is complete devastation. lots of people lost their lives. folks from our church that were

helping rescue people out of the floods, they saw people lose their lives. i've never seen anything quite like this. >> harris: the death toll in that area alone has tripled since yesterday. many people are cut off by flooding and mudslides. no cell service. patrick fitzsimmons is mayor of hard hit reaverville, north carolina, in "focus" next.

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>> harris: the situation in parts of the southeast is nothing short of apocalyptic when you talk to people on the ground. there already have been at least 125 people who have perished from hurricane helene. that number sadly continues to grow as they search for more of the hundreds of missing people. the asheville area of western north carolina is among the

hardest hit with catastrophic flooding. the death toll there reportedly more than tripled yesterday to at least 40 people. i mentioned the hundreds of people still unaccounted for. there is no cell service. we're prayerful that in many events for them the reason we don't know where they are is because we haven't heard from them. let's hope that's the case. that means eventually they will be found and that they are still okay. let's pray for that. senior correspondent steve harrigan is in that asheville area, steve. >> the fox news flight team is in action. drone pilot jason showing you live pictures above biltmore village. frustration continues to build over the slow pace of recovery. people are angry about the fact they aren't getting the basics, things like water, electricity

and some of the people we spoke to this morning want something else. they want information about when things are going to start to get better. >> hard to get things in. so we're kind of just trying to figure out if we stay or go. if we can go. if we do go, where to go. but right now i know that gas -- there is a gas shortage and without cell phone or navigation systems not knowing if roads are open or closed. >> tough decisions when you don't have all the information and when you don't have gps, either. they set up four distribution sites around the city for food and water. the water is in water tankers. you have to bring your own container and limited to two gallons. back to you. >> harris: thank you very much. north carolina's blue ridge mountain region we'll focus on. opinion piece here in the "washington post" describing what they are facing.

quote, but now the questions, what to do? will we starve or die of dehydration if we stay? will we encounter closed or jam highways if we go? can we find fuel? the town's response was clear. leave, get out if you can. in "focus" now patrick fitzsimmons, the mayor of weaverville, north carolina just north of asheville. can you hear me okay? patrick, can you hear me? i know the communications are tough there. all right. we may not have a clear connection and we can understand why. so we're going to move forward in all of this. we wanted to show you some of the latest pictures to come in. this is our fox flight team now with our drones flying over asheville, north carolina. north carolina is reeling from helene's devastation, we know this. there are five other states we keep in view and in our prayers.

the "new york post" with this front page is calling all of it a hellscape. with election day just five weeks away, vice president kamala harris was given a briefing at fema headquarters yesterday and she delivered some remarks but refused to answer any questions about the storm. i know you are probably scratching your head how you show up at fema and you can't take any questions about the storm that you showed up for. i hear you. i'm with you. former president trump is also being briefed on this. of course, he was in valdosta, georgia yesterday and took him with supplies for relief to distribute and they passed those out. trump also created a gofundme, which is verified, for hurricane helene victims. as of the top of the hour, it had raised $2 million. former president trump called out the vice president kamala harris for what he described as a staged photo op of her appearing to be working on

hurricane relief on air force two. he said, quote, you have to plug the cord into the phone for the phone to work. it is tough to tell if her ear buds actually were plugged in from the photo. reporters pressed the white house on president biden and vice president kamala harris's both being out of town this past weekend. the storm hit on thursday. yesterday was four days and we were getting we'll take some phone calls, we're doing meetings and this, that and the other. hurricane helene hit the southeast hard. where are these people? >> why weren't you and vice president harris here in washington commanding this this weekend? >> i was commanding it. i was on the phone for at least two hours yesterday and the day before as well. i commanded. it's called a telephone. >> is there a reason they couldn't be here? >> the president did exactly what a president in this moment needs to do, which is directing his team to take action.

>> he spent the weekend in washington rather than delaware? >> come on, stop that game. will you? if i sound frustrated, i am. >> harris: gianno caldwell and doug schoen former clinton advisor. no one can wave a magic wand and fix everything all at once but you better be trying hard if you do a photo op. >> i'm speechless. having worked in a white house that was responsive whatever issues they may have had, vice president harris and president biden should have been in north carolina. they should have been there for substantive reasons and for political reasons, and personal reasons. yes, you want to get briefed at fema but if you are in the midst of a tough election campaign where the question is are you in touch, do you care and can you

change the way the country is being run to show this level of cavalier indifference, just literally takes my breath away. >> harris: when you talk about that white house, it was bill clinton's white house. gianno, not taking any questions on the storm was beyond odd. that felt disrespectful to all those people who were struggling down there on their behalf. they don't have the utilities to see what she is doing anyway. >> it is -- i have to tell you the mainstream media would have been all over it if donald trump was in the white house doing exact will i what she did. it appears to me that the kamala harris campaign and her in particular campaign strategy is gas light and hope. gas light that the american people, that she is doing something when she is doing not much of anything. gas light she wasn't a border czar when she was and tens of millions of people have come in

including convicted murderers. gas light she wasn't the person who was the tiebreaking vote for the american rescue plan. gas light americans and hope they forget about the gas prices and grocery prices they've been paying. i'm so thankful to see what the new poll numbers, even though it will be a tight race. i can tell you it appears the american people are not buying what kamala harris is selling. it's unfortunate she doesn't think that americans are smart enough to understand what she is doing is lying to them. it is unfortunate. >> harris: it is calculating and understanding what those people she is meeting on the trail are really feeling. that's what this is about, doug. some of those people now on the ground without anything days into a terrible situation. and then a port strike on top of that. if you think it was going to be hard to get a supply into that area en masse before the strike, let a week go by. doug. >> yeah, in politics a week is a

lifetime. look, this represents to me a breakdown in leadership, a breakdown in campaign >> harris: who is running the show? i have to ask you this. does anybody believe the man who coughed through and wheezed and choked during a news conference that was so important about this storm, a couple questions asked about the middle east blowing up. he didn't want to take those questions and said maybe and then left before anybody to get anything substantive beyond his statement. do you believe he is in charge? >> the most honest answer to your question is i don't know. he sure didn't act like a person who is in charge. vice president harris is on the campaign trail full-time. i think recently she was in san francisco raising $27 million. i don't think the real world impact of what is going on -- hopefully with the exception of what could be coming now in

israel -- has alluded the attention of the president. we hope and pray that we get support for israel if iran bombs but otherwise, the administration looks m.i.a. >> harris: quick last word. >> yeah. it appears the joe biden is on vacation until january and kamala harris is simply not up to the job. >> harris: i want to thank you for your time. doug, it is always interesting to get your perspective. are you in a position where i'm certain people still call you for your advice. i hope they are paying attention on both sides. you have enough for everybody, both of you. president biden is making more moves on border policy, surprise? right before the election. but the white house press secretary had no answers for the new data that blew up while kamala spent her less than hour or so at the border. the number of illegal immigrant criminals living in our country is huge.

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>> harris: the biden-harris administration is making it more difficult for migrants to claim asylum at the southern border. these are the people who were giving themselves up by the thousands and then some of them will decide if they won't let me in this way i'll go around everything and be illegal. this is how it starts and completely out of control. the move comes just a bit more than a month before election day. 35 days. polls are showing voters are very disenchanted with this administration's handling of the biden-harris border crisis. recent customs data show more

than 8 million illegal immigrant encounters at the southwest borders under biden and harris. people coming up and again take us or we'll go around and get in illegally. there are so many who do the second part and reveals a shocking number of illegal immigrants with criminal convictions who are currently living freely in our country. more than 425,000 of them are here. and thousands are convicted of murder in the countries they came from. federal sources are telling us the total number of non-detained illegal crossers, which is fancy for they're roaming as criminals, has doubled to some 7 million under the current administration. fox news's peter doocy gave white house press secretary the usual treatment. karine jean-pierre had a chance to clarify all those big breaking news numbers. watch. >> it has been debunked on what

is falsely misrepresented here so we have to call that out. and so look. >> can you verify what the misrepresentation is? >> the numbers that is being put out about how many people are out has been falsely represented here. if we are going to report something, a data that's out there we have to do it in a way that is not -- not confusing the american people. the way that it is being falsely represented here is just not okay. >> harris: yeah, they can't confuse you at customs but she wants to confuse you. corey lewandowski is here. this is spiraling on an issue that kamala harris has not been winning. >> a home game for donald trump talking about the issue of immigration, the polling data shows he has a 15-point advantage over harris on this. this 3,143 counties in the united states of america.

they have let 13,000 murderers in. that means four for every county in america is running around. i live in a town. if we had a murderer in our town they would be on lockdown. we don't know where these people are. not to say anything about the 17,000 rapists and others who they have let into the country. the data is incredible. 425,000 people pouring in that we know of that have criminal convictions and they are out in our nation running around. >> harris: all right. tonight senator jd vance and governor walz with face off in the cbs news vice presidential debate. no doubt it will come up at that debate and likely be the last debate before election day. vance is likely to call attention to walz's progressive record and military service and all the questions surrounding that. walz is expected to lean hard on his midwestern dad act. >> you will see someone who is good, who is genuine, who is

that good funny uncle that you like to hang out with. but who will talk about how we are going to help people get a leg up. >> i've spent the last month going through all of walz's old debate footage and studying his mannerisms and policy positions. based on what i've seen vance is ready to expose him for the radical liberal he is. >> harris: emmer is playing the role of vance. that's how he knows how much about that. >> exactly right. tom emmer knows governor walz. they served in congress together. the other thing, right? governor walz is a career politician. 20 years in elected office. vance has been there for two years. two candidates on the debate stage who have a fundamentally different view of what america should look like over the next four years. walz and harris believe bigger

government. trump and vance no tax on tips or overtime or social security. you get to decide what to do with your economic success. >> harris: so this morning we were learning that in recent polling 72% say that they see walz as that nice guy. he is a dad from the midwest and working for him. quickly your thoughts. >> he has extreme values. that's the problem. extreme left it. we saw what he did during the riots in minnesota and the issue of abortion. it's an extreme position outside the real -- real pal out of the mainstream. >> the debate is simulcast. tune in for a pre-game at 8:00 p.m. eastern on fox. "outnumbered" now. good, real fo. it looks like food,

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