officials because of those trips. adams said this this week. >> we have a system of justice. we try cases in courtrooms, not in boardrooms or the streets. and i spoke with my counsel over and over again and stated to them this is just not right. >> this morning when arriving to court adams says he is moving forward and busy running the city. bill, back to you. >> bill: we'll watch it. cb cotton with developments. >> dana: the news is -- won't stop. can't stop and won't stop. lots of stuff happening. >> bill: yesterday average was something else with trey yengst in the middle east and seeing the incoming. >> dana: what i take away from today there was the debate. a lot more about that. north carolina and eastern tennessee really need our attention and get some today. "the faulkner focus" is next. >> harris: breaking news right now. the united nations security

council is holding an emergency meeting about israel planning retaliation against iran and that massive ballistic missile attack from overnight. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, met with the heads of his country's secret force -- security forces as they consider what a strike could look like. the idf, israeli defense force has sent more fighters into lebanon. remember, they are doing what they had called a limited ground incursion. the limit obviously was more than 24 hours. they are still going and fighting hezbollah terrorists on the ground. lebanon's military is hezbollah. israel confirmed eight soldiers have been killed in combat today. israel is facing three terror proxies. those are those terrorist groups that iran funds and in some part has to be coordinating now.

october 7th, hamas hit israeli citizens. october 8th, hezbollah hit israeli citizens from the north. now the houthis and that proxy paid for by iran in yemen are on the move. massive escalation in the conflict yesterday after iran launched its largest-ever ballistic missile history. we're told in history. prime minister netanyahu has a threat and a promise. >> iran made a big mistake tonight and they will pay for it. we'll stand by the rule we established. whoever attacks us, we will attack them. >> harris: iran fired at least 180 ballistic missiles. some of them guided with more precision and distance and at a higher altitude making it necessary for israel to use multiple defense systems.

one palestinian man was killed, two israelis were injured. most of those missiles were intercepted by israel's advanced air defense systems. but one of them, others more than one, slammed into the ground. secretary of state blinken took an unfortunately timed victory lap just before the attack, wow. really? in an op-ed here is what he wrote. the biden administration's strategy has put the united states in a much stronger geopolitical position today than four years ago. all right, you know what? hatch act all over. stop talking politics and you won't make this mistake. republicans are pointing the finger at the biden-harris policies in that region of the middle east. >> what's important the united states support israel to defend against missile attacks. that's defense. you can't win wars on the defense. united states needs to back israel to the hilt. that's the opposite of what joe biden and kamala harris have done for the last year. >> we have to stand with israel

right now. the biden administration tried to play both sides and tried to appease iran and what has gotten us into this dangerous situation. >> how did it get to the point where iran is launching 200 icbmm? this he don't know where kamala harris stands. >> harris: haifa, israel and trey yengst joins us now. >> good morning. we're following the developments out of southern lebanon. the israeli military confirming that eight of their soldiers were killed in battle today. we know five of them were from a commando unit and they lost their lives in a fire fight with hezbollah in a village in southern lebanon. two of the soldiers that were killed were from reconnaissance units. a final soldier of those eight is a combat medic. it gives you a sense of the battlefield these soldiers are facing in southern lebanon. it is quite different than what israeli forces faced inside

gaza. it comes as israeli officials are still surveying the damage following that ballistic missile attack overnight. 180 missiles soaring through the skies of this country. some of them getting intercepted, others impacting the ground. israel's advance missile defense system the aero three was working to take down much of the fire. video circulating shows significant impacts and craters caused by the missiles. one palestinian man was killed in the west bank and two israelis injured. iranians say they used hypersonic missiles and responding to the killing of hezbollah leader nasrallah and hamas leader haniyeh. overnight the israeli security cabinet gathered what the response might be. it will be significant. the missile attack from iran-backed hezbollah also continues to expand today. hundreds of rockets into northern israel while the israelis continue to target the lebanese capital of beirut with

air strikes. the key story out of israel, shooting attack that killed seven people. the attackers arrived from the west bank and targeted a light rail train. clearly multiple fronts developing in realtime and today again the israeli security cabinet expected to meet to determine what the response will be following that missile attack overnight. harris. >> harris: you know, i'm still looking for fresh information because we were covering together on the air live as these things were happening. you had that suspected -- i say that because they are investigating it -- a lot of pictures and video from the hit on jaffa, bordering tel aviv for our viewers. was there coordination? that's always the question about. it was just so staccato one right after the other. you were pointing out the timing of it as well. what are you learning today? >> at this point there is no indication there was coordination between the iranian

regime and these attackers south of tel aviv. it speaks to the broader security situation across the region and how things are quickly and rapidly deteriorating here. we understand the gunmen came from the west bank and likely had some affiliation with hamas or islamic jihad. the timing is remarkable just given the fact that minutes before the top spokesman nor the israeli military told people in this area of tel aviv to head to their shelters fearing a broader missile attack. >> harris: thank you very much. i appreciate your great reporting as always. i have been told i have another moment with you. today is so different than yesterday and i do want to ask about that. we are now waiting to see, as you have been reporting, what is next in all of this. how are people on the ground prepared for all of this? they had to get into bunkers yesterday so on and so forth. if israel and iran hit again does it start the cycle they're

so familiar with? >> at this point the israeli public has almost adjusted in a very weird way people will go to shelters and come back out and head to restaurants or weddings and they continue on with their lives. but i think the thing that will really affect the israeli psyche today is the deaths of these eight soldiers in southern lebanon. it speaks to the battle environment and what lies ahead for israeli forces as they fight hezbollah. we were in southern lebanon two days ago with the israeli military as they started their operation on the ground. just to give you a sense of how different it is, we were hiking across mine fields and over mountains through dense forests. when we went into gaza it was very simple for them to just drive right across the gaza strip and get to a position. the battlefield is different and the israelis are likely to face many more fire fights and casualties among their forces. >> harris: any time you invade the person or group that you are invading always has the strategic advantage of being at home. and knowing so much more than

those coming in. i'm so appreciative of your coverage. thank you. i want to bring you now rich goldberg, former white house national security council director countering iranian weapons of mass destruction. first of all, talk to me about defending a nation against iran when so much incoming was happening yesterday. what was coming in and what was israel able to do? >> as you've talked about historic largest ever ballistic missile attack on another country. people may not understand israel is the size of new jersey. when you talk about 180 ballistic missiles coming at a country the size of new jersey, that is a strategic level attack. so we saw the aero three system that trey talked about, the aero two system. very large interceptors meant to take down ballistic missiles. united states and israel have worked on them for decades. they were doing their jobs intercepting as many threats as possible. we had our own u.s. navy assets

with interceptor launching as well. air assets trying to do what they can. ultimately missiles got through. they were tracking to a vacant area. others may have caused minor damage. >> harris: can you tell at this point what was targeted? a lot of what will turn out to be propaganda but maybe some of it might be proven true, we don't know. but does it look like there were people who were targeted and did they target any of the air force or things like fighter jets and those types of things? when we've been hit i think to pearl harbor, not that this was close to that but they will usually go for keeping american pilots out of the air. >> what the iranians have said and the impacts that we were able to detect a couple of major air bases being targeted. the mossad headquarters, being

targeted. a lot of missiles didn't hit the targets. this regime doesn't care about palestinians one bit. not just about destroying israel. it is about exporting their reign of terrorism. if you launch 180 ballistic missiles at a country the size of new jersey and not all present size. god help us it could have landed on major civilian population center. israel can't sit there and say we have aero. in april they didn't respond forc forcefully. they are in a different position now. they've decimated hezbollah. they have to respond forcefully inside of iran. >> harris: how does it come together feeling the gaps in leadership for both hamas and hezbollah that israel has successfully continuously taken out at this point? >> you can try to put somebody

in on top. i heard one person sort of joke that whoever is now running hezbollah is the guy who didn't have the beeper when all the beepers went off. but in general think about the brain drain. the institutional leadership, ability to inspire people in the field. that's all gone. command and control of the military has been decimated. their capabilities missile-wise have been decimated. for hamas on its knees, sinwar in the tunnels with the hostages. time is on the israeli side waiting him out. hezbollah from a strategic capability has been decimated. as you heard from trey they are in the villages and tunnels going after those as well. >> harris: that's why i really have deep questions about the command and control from iran and just how much coordination and perhaps we'll learn that. i so appreciate your time. rich goldberg, thank you. the politics of disaster at

play. president biden and vice president kamala harris are going now to tour the devastation hurricane helene caused. it was last thursday when they hit. many people are struggling mightily for fresh, drinkable water, for food that isn't contaminated this many days without electricity in the heat and just basic supplies. a big ask for baby food and baby formula. you need water for that formula. plus senator vance with a jab on the lack of harris-walz interviews. >> if you want to be the vice president of the united states, you ought to earn it. you ought to get out there and talk to the american people. >> harris: the likely only vice presidential debate. caroline leavitt, trump 2024 national press secretary, in

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>> harris: jd vance and walz are back on the campaign trail today. last night they had a debate answering key issues. they were mostly civil. but very often they did not see eye-to-eye. >> it is those that were closest to donald trump that understand how dangerous he is when the world is this dangerous. >> donald trump recognized that for people to fear the united states, you needed peace through strength. >> crossings are down compared to with when donald trump left office. >> we have an historic immigration crisis but kamala harris wanted to undo all of

trump's border policies. >> you have a choice of the election who will honor the democracy and who will honor donald trump. >> you will hear a lot from tim walz this evening, a lot of what kamala harris proposes to do. some of it even sounds pretty good. here is what you won't hear is that kamala harris has already done it. she has been the vice president for 3 1/2 years. >> harris: now many observers are saying they didn't think that either candidate had any massive failing moments but jd vance took the night. some headlines here. tim walz rocked by cool jd vance admits i'm a knucklehead during the debate. another, it was a very midwestern debate. vance won. one "politico" reporter is arguing this is where all of those hours being grilled on the talk show circuit and talking with reporters on the trail paid off. vance was poised. another quote here. the harris-walz strategy of all

but hiding walz since he was in early august roll-out showed tonight. vice president harris and walz have only done a combined 23 interviews two months ago. trump-vance ticket during the same time 61. liberal media with tough words for walz performance. >> a clear lack of preparation and execution here. i think the lack of interviews that he has done with national media, with local media, it showed. he needed more reps. >> jd vance is much more experienced at this at public speaking, at defending himself. >> it reminded me of the june 27th debate when kamala harris said of joe biden it was a slow start but a strong finish. that's how it felt tim walz did tonight. jd vance needed to come away as the humble, likable guy from

hillbilly el eligy. >> harris: what were the initial reactions inside the campaign last night? >> i can tell you, harris, the vibes in campaign headquarters are very high. we are proud of him. he won last night's debate and trump was right to choose him. he prosecuted the case against kamala harris's failed record and perfectly outlined the real solutions and plans that he and president trump have to curb the border crisis, to end inflation, to bring back peace on the world stage and he really pushed governor walz into a tough corner last night proving that governor walz is ill equipped to lead at the highest level of our government. much like his running mate, kamala harris. we have real problems on our hands in this country because of kamala harris's failed policies. the world is on fire.

port workers striking causing a massive disruption in the supply chain and millions of americans without power due to a massive hurricane with no government help in sight. we need effective leadership. >> harris: as i was watching as a journalist i will watch for the questions asked. i was really left disappointed by how much we didn't talk about the economy. it took so long to get there. the port strike that the biden-harris administration could have handled with the draft hartley act to give an 80 day cooling off period didn't get talked about. those things are affecting people right now. it is the economy. many are also pointing to this as governor walz's worst moment in the debate faced with a question, caroline, about his false claim that he was in hong kong or china during the tiananmen square massacre and gave a strange non-answer. let's watch. >> look, i grew up in small rural nebraska, town of 400.

town that you rode your buck with the buddies until your street lights come on. i joined the national guard at 17, worked on family bills and used the g.i. bill to become a teacher. passionate about it. a young teacher. i got the opportunity in the summer of 1989 to travel to china. 35 years ago be able to do that. i came back home and then started to program to take young people there. basketball teams and baseball teams and dancers and go back and forth to china. i have poured my heart into my community and tried to do the best i can but i have not been perfect and i'm a knucklehead at times. >> the question was can you explain the discrepancy? >> i got there that summer and misspoke on this. >> harris: wow, caroline. >> he didn't misspeak, he lied multiple times about his visits to china. a question worth asking.

i hope governor walz will do more media interviews. he needs it as proven by his shabby debate performance last night. clearly how can a public school teacher in minnesota afford to go to communist china 15 times? that's a question worth asking. we know the chinese communist party likes to take advantage of low-level congressional people like governor tim walz. is he compromised? we don't know. he hasn't sat down for interviews to answer those questions and should. it is odd he has taken more than ten trips to china throughout his political career. >> harris: it is a fair question. i didn't realize the number could be as high as 15. i think 15 anywhere, his teacher saally. i never feel teachers make enough money. i'm with you how did he do it but what was going on during the trips? i think that's got to come up. he opened the door last night by not being able to say when he was there definitively and clear

up the mess of the misspeaking. voter reaction with the vice presidential debate. let's see what voters had to say. >> we know that jd won. >> lawrence: how do you feel about walz last night? did he accomplish the relatable guy? >> no, he was too nervous. >> lawrence: why do you think most people when you look at the independents and some democrats say jd vance won the debate last night. >> because he has had more experience on public stage and debating. tim walz is your guy next door. >> harris: i want to point out lawrence jones there was in the important battleground state of michigan and you are hearing from the voters there. is this commensurate with what you are hearing in the battleground states? they are each different but curious to know from the ground perspective inside the campaign what are voters telling you? >> yes, absolutely. there were a plethora of polls

that came out last night showing undecided voters and american people thought senator vance performed better than governor walz. senator vance and president trump talk about the issues on the campaign trail every day. inflation that's decimating the saving of hard working families, the border crisis that led to an invasion of more than 20 million illegal people. governor walz couldn't answer the question whether he and kamala harris will support mass amnesty for more than 425,000 convicted criminal illegal aliens we currently have in this country on their watch. he was in a tough spot having to try to explain away the failures of kamala harris's policies over the past four years. americans know she and joe biden are the reason that they are struggling and they are suffering and that only a change ticket and senator vance and president trump will bring real change and real solutions to this country. >> harris: it's interesting. part of the job for each

candidate last night was to shore up the top of the ticket and give some support. do you feel like that happened for either of them last night? >> definitely happened on our side. again senator vance proved president trump made the right decision choosing him as his running mate. they are going to be barnstorming the country over the next five weeks. senator vance is in michigan today. president trump will be there tomorrow talking directly to voters about the issues that matter to them while again governor walz continues to hide from the media and kamala harris is absent in the face of these crises that the american people are facing on the world stage, here at home, impact of hurricane helene and the strike that will cause massive disruptions to our supply chain. she has no plan in sight to end it. >> harris: those two things go together. one of the busiest ports in supplying people in georgia and

other states and it is out of commission right now. the strike is now colliding with the storm, epic. we'll see if they show up. caroline, thank you very much. good to have you. dock workers on the picket line for a second day now. let's jump into that strike and hope that a week does not go by with this. we'll all be feeling it. shipping containers are piling up. in parts of the country along the coasts it is warm. if there is food or anything perishable, medicine, they couldn't stop ahead of the strike in the cargo ship it becomes a problem almost immediately. those ships are on the water with nowhere to go. you are looking at the of your screen. how fast and hard the crisis could hit us. multiple stories of rescue efforts ending in tragedy during the flight of hurricane helene. the flooding particularly in north carolina. >> he was washed under a bunch of debris caused by the storm.

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>> harris: harrowing video from hurricane helene. watch this. two people were driving through north carolina's blue ridge mountains and barely avoided being swept away by a mudslide.

the dash cam obviously picked this up and showed the moment the slide clipped the back of the car. let's watch it one more time. wow. there it is. look what a close call. hurricane helene is now the second most deadly hurricane to hit the u.s. since cat reno. at least 166 deaths. expect more because they're still looking for many people unaccounted for. destruction is widespread across six southeastern states. hundreds of people missing, particularly in north carolina. today president biden will survey the damage in both carolinas. vice president kamala harris is going to georgia. the president will have to see from the sky as some of the hardest-hit areas remain inaccessible by ground. asheville, north carolina, the scene continues to serve up all

shades of apocalyptic. that town experienced historic flooding. one mother shared her agonizing last moments with her little boy, seven years old. then the floodwaters washed him and her parents away. >> my grief today is i'm so proud of my son because in his last moments he wasn't screaming for me. he was screaming jesus, jesus, save me, jesus, i hear you, jesus, i'm calling upon you and his wildest dreams and everything he wanted to be was a super hero. >> harris: steve harrigan. you are in north carolina. steve. >> this is one of those cut-off areas where you really can't get through at all by vehicles. these people completely cut off. some of their mobile homes destroyed. others really moved off their foundations. some people really hanging on

getting helped when they can with friends with four-wheel vehicles. one thing they're stressing here is they have gotten no help whatsoever from any official agencies. the people who have come here to help, that's the middle school and local volunteers as well just trying to clean up. people are trying to dry out clothes and salvage what they can. the biggest need people here tell us, water. >> how many days can people go trapped or without water or without resources or without rescue? it is not just the initial 24, 48, 72 hours. we're talking about potentially weeks before you can get access to certain communities. how are those people going to live? >> the president is going to fly over some of the hardest hit areas this afternoon and the white house announced more than 1,000 active duty servicemen will be in the area to distribute food and water. right now it's the middle school

helping them out here. back to you. >> harris: i have to ask something really obvious. if people cannot get out, how did you get in? >> we walked on foot over a broken bridge. so if you have an atv or willing to go through the river on foot or risk the bridge you can do it on foot. vehicle or transport are out of the question. >> harris: i just wanted to know. if we can get there we can help. what you are saying you have to be -- i know you are, you've been from war zone to this. this feels like one. steve harrigan, thank you. georgia republican congressman buddy carter serves on the house budget committee and also the energy and commerce committees. thank you for being with me. first of all, i don't know if you could hear the reporting from steve harrigan but this sounds long-term. is it? >> yes, it is going to be long term. harris, let me first say that to those who have been through this and who are currently going through this, we love you, we are praying for you and we will

be there for you. and i will tell you, harris, this is my home. this is where i've lived all my life in south georgia. never seen any devastation like this before. it is beyond anything that i can describe and i will tell you that even georgia power, our major energy provider said they've never seen anything like this. over 5,000 poles down. 425 miles of wire they have had to replace. throughout this what we've witnessed with our first responders and with our power workers trying, working tirelessly to get power back and we have a lot of people who don't have power and won't have power for a while. our first responders, people like leon from pierce county assistant fire chief and who lost his life in the line of duty when a tree fell on his truck. and i met with ms. shirley and scott and kevin yesterday and i want them to know we love you and we will be there for you.

>> harris: so much love and so many prayers. i want to thank you. our audience could see as you were talking some of those pictures were from you and the crews you are working with. you are working with to try to shore things up so people can move forward. your words for north carolina were much appreciated on certain -- every state is in a different. six with states suffering from this is in a different position. you are all working together. look, here is something the whole country is feeling and i can't even imagine the panic that this is bringing when resources are so important and i think we have a live look at the savannah, georgia. we do. the port. nothing is moving. that strike is affecting the ability to help people who need it. your state and district day two of this massive strike on vital ports along the east coast all the way to the gulf. what is this like? >> this is the worst thing that could happen right now.

look, we're already hurting from the effects of hurricane helene and now you are talking about the georgia ports and all the ports on the eastern seaboard but the georgia ports are the economic engine of our area, over 500,000 jobs and for every week that the ports are closed down, that's 4.5 billion economic impact combined with what's going on with the hurricane. that is going the lead to economic disaster. i certainly hope that the biden-harris administration will step in and negotiations and encourage a settlement so we can get back to work here. this is not what we need right now especially. >> harris: look, the vice president is supposed to be in your state today. i don't know how that is going to work out if she doesn't address the situation. those are not people helping, those are people picketing in the middle of this disaster. all respect for the right for them to do that. can somebody maybe pick up water and help out? i'm just asking.

okay. places like baltimore, houston, brooklyn, and all over new jersey we have so many ports along our coastline there. the union boss is leading the charge. let's watch. >> what they want to get rid of our jobs out of the united states. so that's why we're all fighting here. for jurisdiction, for health, for wages. it is for a whole bunch of stuff and they don't want to come to the table and share. and that's why we're out here saying you would never have this money if it wasn't for the unions up and down this coast to houston fighting every day during covid. >> harris: i just have to say it. they could help out in a crisis. maybe they aren't going to work the ports, but they could help. economists are warning if the strike lasts more than a week, we could get the kind of inflation for six months similar to or worse than peak inflation levels a year ago under the

biden-harris administration. every industry will feel the weight from this from food to cars to medicine, bad news for americans who are already feeling the pinch. i come back to you, congressman carter. it could not be worse timing for you and those other states hit by helene. >> no, it could not be, harris, you are right. they have the right to do this and we understand where they are coming from. but at the same time, please, we need help right now. our people need help right now. we're hurting. this is the worst thing that could possibly happen right now in combination with the effects of the hurricane. we don't need a shut down of our port. the economic engine of our area. >> harris: did the administration get there fast enough in your estimation? >> well, you know, quite honestly, they have responded. president trump was down here last -- down here earlier in the week. >> harris: that's the former

administration. >> well, biden-harris administration, you know, in all fairness, the governor had applied for a disaster area and president approved that and we're appreciative of that. that is going to help. but we need help immediately. these people are hurting down here. >> harris: governor kemp did that right away. all right. representative carter, we appreciate you coming with us today. i will check back with you on this port situation. that's a lot of people picketing. a lot of hands that could help. i can't miss that live picture. it is hard not to see the obvious in that. god bless you, sir, and all those you are helping. thank you. >> thank you. >> harris: just like after abc's presidential debate critics are calling out the cbs moderators for what seemed to be a gang-up on senator vance. >> they are bias, their disdain for any republican candidate is on open display.

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>> harris: senator jd vance and governor tim walz had one chance to face off in the first and likely only vice presidential debate. critics are saying it become a three against one showdown. the cbs moderators and tim walz versus the republican candidate. senator vance, though, didn't seem phased. >> the people that i am most worried about in springfield, ohio the american citizens who had their lives destroyed by kamala harris open border. >> springfield ohio does have a large number of haitian migrants who have legal status, temporary protected status. senator, we have so much to get to. >> it is important. margaret, the rules were that you guys weren't going to fact check. since you are fact checking me it is important to say what's actually going on. >> thank you for describing the legal process. we have so much to get to. >> those laws have been on the

books since 1990. >> thank you, gentlemen. we want to have -- >> this hasn't been on the books since 1990. >> gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut. >> harris: wow. so you get to fact check the moderator. they didn't say vance was wrong. thank you for legally explaining it. in other words, thanks for the facts. this "new york post" editorial board is calling out their quote ridiculous fact check of a true statement. this was a nationally televised example why the elites examination of fact checking is a load of horse manure. this democrats want to shut off the microphone for anyone who asks the wrong questions or says the wrong thing. jd vance was telling the truth about immigration and that's why they had to shut him up, end quote. cbs's coverage of the election had critics sounding the alarm before the candidates took the

stage. media research center found where coverage of the harris-walz ticket was 85% positive. coverage of trump's team 81% negative. lisa boothe, fox news political analyst in "focus" now. great to see you. first of all, just your reaction to the positive versus negative coverage. not a shocker but also really embarrassings, i would imagine, for all the media who can't just cover them both. >> it also speaks to the strength of donald trump because if he is -- i think in a better position than kamala harris closing out this election cycle despite the fact you have almost the entire media propping up kamala harris and almost the entirety of the media trying to knock you down and destroy you and you are still this well positioned. i think it speaks to the strength of donald trump. you know, about the debate. harris, democrats walk into debates these dose nothing all they have to do. the expectation of debating

their opponent when a republican walks into these debates, they know they aren't only debating the democratic opponent but also the moderators. i think it is sad reflection where we are as a society and the media as well. >> harris: you know, when you talk about a debate, a debate actually is what happens when you have some give and take. so the mic cutting at that moment as we are talking about the number two most important thing across surveys and it has been holding in the top three for months is immigration in this country. that ought to be an open-ended type of conversation, i would imagine. >> but if you look at those numbers, it would be consistent of why they don't want to talk about the issue of immigration because it is an issue that donald trump leads on, right? this is an issue even if you look at hispanics with the recent nbc poll. he leads on border security by 13 points. they have improved by 17 points

since 2020. the reason why is immigration explains what it means to be america first. when you have open borders you put america last and you look at springfield, ohio used as the example here. a city of 58,000 people and you let in 12,000 to 20,000 people, 20,000 migrants, what do you think it does to a city of 58,000 people? it drains resources, causes a lot of chaos, a bunch of people speaking different languages. even in new york city, eric adams has said in a city of over 8 million people that 175,000 migrants are destroying the city of new york, draining the city of resources. so to have open borders, which is what kamala harris and joe biden wants, puts americans last in having secure borders puts americans first. >> harris: thank you for joining me. "outnumbered" is after the break.

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