and i think donald trump is going to help us win -- i believe is he going to win the state of michigan. i believe it's going to help mike rogers win the state of michigan. i believe it's going to help me win this seat in the congressional district. >> todd: co-anchor slipped me a question. completely biased on this point michigan or michigan state. she is a michigan person. >> i was born in ann arbor and raised by couple michigan fans so all right, go blue. >> carley: go blue, paul. >> todd: we focus on ann arbor too much. you are going to lose lansing. you are going to lose lansing because so focused on ann arbor. >> listen, i have friends and family at michigan state. love too but i'm a wolverine. >> carley: bipartisan answer there. >> todd: thank you for your time, carley thank you for weighing in with your football knowledge. >> carley: "fox & friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪

>> carley: 6:00 a.m. on the east coast, this is "fox & friends." >> ainsley: we start with a fox weather alert, millions of our friends fleeing florida as a cat 5 hurricane, hurricane milton is barreling toward that state. and janice dean is here with what you need to know before time runs out. >> and while americans are scrambling, vice president harris decided to crack some jokes and open up a beer with stephen colbert just a few blocks away. >> would you like to have a beer with me. >> okay. the last time i had beer was at a baseball game with doug. okay. cheers. >> there you go. [laughter] [cheers] >> steve: okay. plus the fbi has foiled an afghan national's plot to launch an election day terror attack. how he got into the country with the help of the biden harris administration. "fox & friends" for this very busy wednesday starts right now.

>> steve: our top story, fox weather alert. hurricane milton expected to make landfall along florida's west gulf coast. >> ainsley: millions are evacuating as communities are rushing to clean up debris from the last hurricane from helene. look at this, government researchers are flying into the eye of the hurricane to gather critical data that could help save lives. >> brian: major airports in crews terms analysis are closing as the storm approaches, disanything, universal, sea world all shutting down. >> lawrence: check in with janice dean for the fox weather forecast. you warned people yesterday it remains true today, right? >> janice: yeah. the worst case scenario is going to happen somewhere along the west central coast of florida.

the computer models have moved a little bit more south of tampa, however, we are not out of the woods if you still live in tampa. some of the computer models that we are looking at this morning has this storm a little bit moving towards the north again. we won't know the exact timing and track until maybe a few hours before landfall that's how it goes in tropical meteorology, unfortunately. we have warned the people we need warn. we have that cone of uncertainty so all those folks that are within that cone you need to be, well, hunkering down if you haven't left already. here is the storm. >> this is a category 5 storm. it's interacting with the trough now, which is helping lift it north ward. it's also going through something called an eye wall replacement cycle and these hurricanes go through these transformative cycles to try strengthen. but the problem is as it weakens a little bit, the wind span expands. so that means more real estate is going to be felt by the

storm. and the weakening is coming too late, frankly. we are still dealing with an epic storm surge, an historic storm surge that is going to flood neighbors overtop homes along the west coast of florida. so here is the computer models, can you seat track moves a little bit to the south. again, south of the center of circulation is where you are going to get the worst of the storm surge, that mound of water that moves in 10 to 15 feet. north of the center of circulation is going to be a foot or more of rain. okay? and then you are going to see the hurricane force winds moving across the whole state of florida in towards the atlantic and the east coast of florida also feeling potentially dangerous impacts. so, as you can sees a we go through time, look at how it expands, okay? and that's very dangerous. it's still going to carry the same storm surge, we are still warning up to 15 feet in and around the tampa bay area. now up to 12 feet for places like fort myers, bradenton, port

charlotte, you know, all of these areas that are so vulnerable to the storm surge because the shelf is so shallow, it's almost like a ramp for all of this water to move inland. terrible. >> steve: it is indeed. janice, thank you very much. she will be in the weather center all longer long. let's bring in jimmy patron necessary he is florida's chief financial officer. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> steve: we know we know it's all hands on deck. big one. this actually could be the big one for people along the gulf coast in my books the biggest storm ever to hit the state of florida. we have more resources in the form of urban search and rescue, prestaged in the state of florida than we have ever had for any natural disaster. we have got teams all the way from washington state to virginia that are ready to roll as soon as it is safe to get these brave men and women out into harm's way to save lives.

>> brian: from what you can tell, what about the evacuation rate? do you think most people have listened? have you been monitoring from satellites, from planes, have an idea who is around? >> well, perfect example, last night, i made a last-minute run for some supplies. run into a couple that i know. they tell me about a loved one that they have contacted in sarasota. elderly couple. they are refusing to evacuate. and, you know, i plead with people check on your elderly. check on your neighbor. some people are so overwhelmed by the circumstances, especially the elderly that they are not heeding the warning tampa bay got hit by helene they won't take a chance of getting burned a second time. >> lawrence: someone brought up to me yesterday, some people don't evacuate because they don't have the means to evacuate. what type of resources are put

in place for folks that don't have the money, they are paycheck to paycheck right now to leave 30 miles out of town? >> sure, all of this is tied municipal transportation. those are running around the clock taking people to shelters. in addition, we appreciate what uber has done. they have actually done free rides to the shelter. they opened up the uber app. put in the promotional code hurricane milton, that will give you a free ride to the local shelter. >> ainsley: yeah, jimmy, we saw the images that were being sent to us through text messages of people driving down their neighborhood streets and seeing all of the debris from the last hurricane. and i know that governor ron desantis opened up all the landfills so that all of that debris could be moved into landfills. he said all of that was going to be dangerous and flying around. now getting reports that gas stations from people leaving their houses and trying to go north or south they are running out of gas. what is the plan? i do know there is for people

watching there is gas buddy -- i went on this app. it is called find and pay for gas. it's a fuel availability tracker. activated to help drivers find fuel if they are in this situation. what's your plans to get fuel to these gas stations and get first responders in after this hits? >> well, we are doing florida highway patrol escorts with the tankers in order to get gas to these stations. it's not as much as a supply problem as a distribution problem. and when you have that many people moving around, you have to do escorts. and you have got to remember, this is columbus day weekend. this is typically a weekend holiday where southeast united states is descending on central florida for the holiday in order to enjoy it. there is more people to add days of vacation planned. so we do have extra people in the state this time because school is out. >> steve: indeed. jimmy, and as we look live at tampa where it is lightly raining at this point at 6:08 in

the morning. we know there are some people who are stubborn and they will not leave even though the cops have knocked on their door and said you have got get out. once this storm starts hitting. people are going to get in their cars and going to get out on the highway. you guys are doing something that i have never heard of before, you have started opening up -- back up shelters of last resort so the near the highway so the drivers who are stuck in the traffic as the storm is coming down, can actually go to those shelters. how do they find them? >> so, again, thank goodness we have great media partners. you are talking about it right now. they can go to florida disaster.org. they can go to prepare sl.com. hopefully they will check out our social media feed. we are doing everything we can to try to reach the people and let them know that every single storm you have that individual who panics and they feel like i need to escape. my house is not going to make it and then we find them and their car washed away, unfortunately,

with the worst outcome can you imagine. >> steve: check that website. >> lawrence: jimmy patronis is the chief financial officer for florida. god bless you. >> ainsley: god bless you too. it's hitting this afternoon. people are staying. what's the reason you are hearing. i talked to a friend and she said her husband will stay because he spent his whole life to build his house. he is in construction he wants to make sure everything is safe. she got out with the dogs and kids and went to atlanta. >> steve: a friend of mine just sent me a message from the jerusalem post how a jewish rabbi is staying in the synagogue -- it sounds like it's on or near one of the barrier islands. he is not budging he is going to stay because he feels obligated to be there in case people need to go there. it is not one of the official shelters. people think and, yesterday, prices for airline tickets skyrocketed. some of the tickets out of tampa

simply to go to atlanta were $2,500. here's the thing. >> ainsley: and then it closed down, right? >> steve: it did at 9:00 in the morning. you don't have to go georgia. go inland 20 miles just so you are away from the storm surge. that's what all the officials are trying to get folks to do. >> brian: talk about 2024. the elections has got two stories. this could be the october surprise. helene could have been an october surprise. it's going to effect the election. and, of course, florida getting hit again. this massive storm, which looks to be a massive storage doing massive damage. that could be it. and, still, we were wondering if the president was going to cancel his trip over to germany. he did. and then we said i wonder if the vice president will cancel her appearance on these light hearted shows like "the view" and stephen colbert's late night show and the answer is she didn't. and here's a little. to say me, even though you are taping in the afternoon and it's in new york and not in florida. the whole country is watching. this is what they saw.

>> so, would you like to have a beer with me so can i tell people what that's like? [cheers and applause] >> this was we asked ahead of time. because i can't just be giving a drink to the vice president of the united states without asking. you asked for miller high life. [laughter] i'm just cure yunchts okay. the last time i had beer was at a baseball game with doug. okay. cheers. >> there did you go. [cheers and applause] >> lawrence: she wants to be a leader until it's time for us to have leadership. she wanted to talk to ron desantis so bad, you would think that she would be side-by-side with joe biden as this crisis is happening. he canceled this trip. i thought it was just stunning after she said that and attacked ron desantis that joe biden said they have been working together just fine. so much so that he gave ron desantis his personal cell phone number. and they have a good relationship when it comes to the storms.

giving him everything that he needs there. so for her to go on the late night shows, do howard stern in the middle of a crisis and not be with the commander-in-chief, it just doesn't look good. >> ainsley: if you are worried about your house and just experienced a mudslide that took your husband -- remember the lady the husband was trapped in the drainpipe. and you see the vice president, person running for president on a late night show drinking a beer it makes it look like you don't care about what is happening in north carolina. >> steve: one of those things about popularity of people who are running for president is who would you like to go out and have a beer with? that's obviously why stephen colbert did that stephen colbert even kind of called her on the choice she made. come on do you think she drinks miller high life. >> ainsley: it's from wisconsin. >> steve: it is from wisconsin. absolutely right. one of the swing states. maybe that's why she ordered it. then i don't know who orders that might order a miller lite which is refreshing and tasty. >> brian: not much of a beer

drinker. >> steve: she probably is not. this is one of those things where the stephen colbert staff called her staff and says okay, what kind of a beer would she -- does she drink? and they go um member high life? nobody orders miller high life. just saying. >> brian: that wasn't her only stop. >> ainsley: no, it was not. she also was on with howard stern and then earlier in the day she was on "the view." asked this question, which she was also asked with stephen colbert hours later, six or seven hours later and she still had the same answer. she wouldn't change anything about the administration, listen to this. >> well, if anything, would have you done something differently than president biden during the past four years? >> there is not a thing that comes to mind, in terms of -- and i have been a part of -- of most of the decisions that have had impact. >> you are a member of the present administration. under a harris administration, what would the major changes be

and what would stay the same? >> sure, well, i mean, i'm obviously not joe biden. >> i noticed. [laughter] >> that would be one thing. in terms of -- also, it's foreign say with 28 days to go i'm not donald trump. >> steve: we have heard that before. >> brian: they both agree howard stern over the top i listened this morning of his hatred to trump and this cartoonish vision of what trump would represent and what he would do and what he has done. he just hates people that vote for donald trump. whatever you think of howard stern. trump is church, i just don't like the people that voted for him and will vote for him. so you don't like at least -- >> lawrence: he also said he would vote for wall, too, even if they were. >> ainsley: what happened to him? the old howard stern. >> brian: jimmy kimmel hollywood, ben stiller. >> ainsley: coastal elites. >> brian: bruce springsteen if you are watching them they are out of their mind.

>> lawrence: how tone deaf do you have to say 77% of the country disagree with the direction. you don't disagree with anything of joe biden. tight line to walk because she is still the sitting vice president. they did remove him. so she could be on the ticket. >> ainsley: what about afghanistan, the border crisis in the numbers have quadrupled under those two people right there. what about inflation? inflation went up. she could have said any of these. i would have changed the way exited afghanistan. we lost 13 servicemembers a lot of people who helped us. our interpreters over there. many of them died. the women, what is happening to the women now under the taliban. i would change how we exited. what about the border crisis? all of these people are coming through. look at that 1.8 million known got-aways. those are just the ones we know about. what about the ones that are here. >> the terrorists. those here on the terror watch list, 375 under this administration? >> steve: there is a bunch of them lawrence you are absolutely right. look here is how i would be

different than joe biden. that's the story. okay, kamala harris and joe biden loggerheads over different issues. i think what she is doing is looking at the polls, looking at internal polling, shows that she is a little ahead. we talked about the "new york times" poll that came out. everybody is hurting with the economy. donald trump is still up on the economy. but now it's only 2 points. and i think one of the reasons for that is she has got so much money that she is pumping into tv ads all across the country. i was down in florida over the weekend, i saw a ton of ads on her, and about amendment 4. which is about abortion down there. that's going to drive a lot of people to vote in florida. but then again, there are a lot of ads here for kamala harris, and they are trying to flip some of these red districts blue. and they might actually do it when you look at the polls where donald trump one month ago was ahead by five points on the economy, now only 2. i think it's the tv ad impact.

>> brian: i would like to see beyond the sen into times. she is not acting like she is ahead. reminds me of president biden when he was definitely trying to save his candidacy, five network interviews didn't do anything after two years press conference for the first time and then had rally after rally and he still got that call better drop out and pretended it was his idea. you see two worlds. howard stern bringing that up word about the bleach. donald trump wants to tell everyone to have bleacher a throw away comment he said cleaning furniture. too bad the body doesn't have something like that. he says dictator for a first day. he told us that dictator, a side comment at a town hall with sean hannity saying i just want to sign all the executive orders. he will leave nato. innovate toe is over. he didn't leave nato. this has been debated. >> lawrence: more funding. >> brian: i want them to stop going for the free ride and russia while asking us to watch

their back. i think he is going to put jimmy kimmel in jail. he said every single time he has said that my redemption, my revenge will be my success. and he said other things. >> lawrence: they even asked kamala harris on -- i think it was "the view." are you going to leave the country? are you afraid if donald trump gets the president? howard stern, thank you. >> brian: yeah that, was howard stern. >> lawrence: why would you ask that question to her. >> ainsley: she didn't answer it. >> lawrence: after if she has gotten the assassination attempts and if there has been lawfare against her. such a dumb question. >> ainsley: after watching all three of those interviews yesterday and i stayed up watching them all. i was like i'm not impressed. she didn't say anything. >> steve: nothing new. >> ainsley: nothing new that was my take away. >> steve: new plan to expand medicare to provide home healthcare to older people. once again, she sent that out there, but she didn't explain how they were going to pay for it.

>> lawrence: never does. >> steve: her staff had to tell the reporters who called about it hey, how is she going to pay for that? we are going to save money on medicare prescriptions. yeah. this is one of those things where she is putting stuff out there but there are no details. it's all about the kitchen sink approach, throwing everything at the wall, hoping to get elected. >> brian: if you want to see how donald trump bowed out of "60 minutes," evidence of editing her answers. at least one we know of. how many others that she screwed up that they didn't even air and would they have done that for trump? answer something make him look good? >> steve: 6:19 in mornings. once again lead story in other news is about a rapper. >> carley: yeah rapper sean "diddy" combs is in prison as he awaits charges. the legal team plans to cite a lack of evidence to keep him

behind bars. and they point to what are legal errors in the two prior decisions to deny him bail. in second appeal prosecutors argue diddy in s. a flight risk. jewish students at harvard are on edge after anti-israel protester smashed windows and splashed red paint on a statue at the ivy league school campus. video posted to social media shows chaos that unfolded on campus. the account that posted it claims it was an act of solidarity with the palestinian resistance. harvard university police say incident is under investigation. and it's the end of an era for one of the oldest hotels on the vegas strip of controlled. it took place less than an hour ago. [explosion]

trope can that opened up 195 #. sorry to all those people who were born then. construction of a major league baseball stadium and new home to the oakland athletics. not every day you see hotel exploding on tv. >> steve: it imploded. we see a lot of implosion. that's a natural one. >> brian: was everyone out of it. >> carley: make sure everyone was cleared. >> ainsley: do they empty out the toilets and sinks if another toilets i hope they take the video games out. >> ainsley: all the memories that happen in that hotel is gone. how do they do this safely? look at all that smoke? >> lawrence: that's a lot of dynamite.

>> steve: brian, they moved all -- >> ainsley: whatever happens in vegas, whatever sins happened inside that hotel gone forever. >> lawrence: ha ha. >> steve: whole town. carley, thank you very much. >> brian: if you had a reservation there, i would look somewhere else. [laughter] >> lawrence: try to get a refund. >> steve: just know tropicana still making orange juice. >> brian: that's where you are staying next year. >> steve: serious news. this was quite a fox news alert late yesterday. afghan national that guy right there has been arrested for plotting election day terrorist attack. how the chaotic afghanistan withdrawal allowed this guy into withdrawal allowed this guy into our country straight ahead. >> brian: unvetted. lly! woo! hey! try new robitussin soft chews. packed with the power of robitussin... in every bite. easy to take cough relief, anywhere. chew on relief,

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>> lawrence: fox news alert. afghan national in custody after accused of plotting terrorist attack on behalf isis. the suspect entered the u.s. on a special immigrant visa days after the biden-harris administration crazy afghan withdrawal. brooke singman has the details on that. >> yeah, lawrence, the fbi has been warning that open southern border and flow of illegal aliens into the u.s. means potential tastes are entering

the country. justice department says afghan citizen living in oklahoma has been charged with plotting terrorist attack on election day for isis. nasir tawhedi obtained weapons to launch this attack. he arrived in the u.s. in september of 2021 just days after the u.s. withdrawal from afghanistan. the doj saying tawhedi planned attack for election day. in interview he confirmed that the attack was planned for election day, targeting large gatherings of people during which he and the juvenile were expected to die as martyrs. former acting ice director tom homan says the risk of terror attack brought on by lack of security at the southern border. >> what should scare the american people is because of what this administration has done, the harris administration, how many more just like him are plotting an attack right now. >> luckily this guy was caught on chatter we both know intelligence community isn't perfect, they will miss more

than they get god hem us, there is more than just one in this country because of this administration. >> if convicted tawhedi faces up to 35 years in prison. brian? >> brian: unbelievable but not unexpected. meanwhile, thank you, brooke. this morning as millions flee hurricane milton in florida, vice president kamala harris wrapping up a softball media blitz here in new york city. literally cracking jokes and cracking a beer with stephen colbert. >> would you like it have a beer with me so can i tell people what that's like? okay. this was -- now we asked ahead of time because i can't just be giving a drink to the vice president of the united states without asking. you asked for miller high life. [laughter] >> i'm just curious. >> okay. the last time i had beer was terrible baseball game with doug. cheers. >> cheers. >> there did you go. [cheers and applause] that crowd roars but is that the right move?

here to react former senior adviser to tim scott. his presidential campaign matt gorman, your reaction. if that's your client, is that the move? she wants to have her cake and eat it too. yuck it up with "the view" and stephen colbert openly supportive will yous about wants to insert herself with ron desantis and try to play president and when she never has done this before. and then criticize him when he won't go along with it. you can't do both. either go and do these softball interviews or go pretend you are president at the white house with joe biden. >> brian: i mean you have biden canceled his trip no angola, no germany, got stick around. is he praising governors for stepping up. howard stern to theview to stephen colbert's show after doing "60 minutes." remember she wants people to have empathy and care about the american people. tell me these accusations and keep in mind what she just did having a beer.

watch. >> what just upsets me so is the idea that any politician would play political games with these folks, with people who are in the midst of such suffering, loss of life, locals of their homes, loss of norm ski, and nol these lies in a way meant to distrust the help that is there for them to receive. that's crude. have you no empathy, man? >> brian: if you watch what happened in western part -- in the western part of north carolina, if you saw the special operations and all the groups that had to go in because fema wasn't there. if you saw the civilian choppers and taking 10 days to call the army in, you don't think you are open to criticism for that, and how does stephen colbert -- even though he is a median not know that. >> you want to talk about empathy, too, where was she when this was barreling down on those

folks in north carolina and georgia she was on the west coast with celebrities raising money. joe biden was in rehoboth. didn't go back to the white house and again she is up in new york. talk about empathy. what about the empathy for a governor scaring down a cat 5 in his state calling out and calling him selfish because he won't indulge your campaign stunt. it's ridiculous. >> brian: you did tell our producers biden passive aggressive against the vice president. when he praised desantis yesterday in the oval office. that was more evidence of it. calling a press conference in the middle of her event. more evidence of it. and the fact that he says she was there with me every step of the way is that more evidence? >> absolutely. seen this over the last week or so. going out right when she is about to start. big bear hug unpopular president saying she is major player in everything i have done. also, yeah, you are right. yesterday he threw her under the bus and debunked what she was

saying going over the top how communicative and could have been desantis was working together. he did not have to do it. i can imagine the white house got angry call from the harris campaign after hearing that. >> brian: i hope they work it out and everybody gets along. thanks, matt. appreciate it. the white house using a new catchphrase to deflect from hurricane response criticism. will the america people buy it. >> there is a lot of misinformation. >> misleads people. >> misinformation. >> there is not enough money right for for people in north carolina. >> your whole premise of the question is misinformation.

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fox weather meteorologist kendall smith is live in naples. kendall, are we looking at, what, 11:00 midnight when it hits? >> yeah, steve, i mean, the arrival time of milton has been pushed back. so we are looking at late tonight. perhaps early tomorrow morning. and when you think about this, this is in the dead of night when most folks will be asleep. this is a big concern, right? located right here in naples. we are just about seven feet above sea level. miewnsz airport down the road from me. that's where we're concerned with the potential to have storm surge anywhere between 4 to as high as 7 feet above normally dry ground. so to put this into perspective, i'm 5 feet tall. so this is a big issue. when you are looking around me though this morning, as we are just off of i-75 highway, located right along pine ridge road, and we already have flooding. so there is flooding on either side of me. and this is because of how much rain we have picked up the past

few days and we could see several inches of rain. wind gusts 70 to as strong as 100 miles per hour. steve, conditions are going to begin to deteriorate very quickly in naples. >> steve: indeed. that's why they are saying get out. thank you for the live report'6":40 on this wednesday morning. in other news, first it was deep takes and now the white house is spending another deflection as they take heat over the federal hurricane response. see if you can notice a thread. >> there is a lot of misinformation. and i -- beseech you, beg you to please not pay attention to it. >> what's the risk of political figures sharing misinformation during this time? >> it misleads people. puts people in circumstances where they panic, where they really, really really worry. >> so i'm going to divorce the disinformation being spread from any one individual and just say this: disinformation harms

survivors of a disaster because they lose trust in their government. >> peter: there is not enough money right now for people in north carolina. >> that's misinformation. >> that is not misinformation. >> your whole premise of the question is misinformation, sir. >> peter: which part? you can't call things you don't like misinformation. >> steve: i know that guy. how his president and son sold out america, miranda devine joins us now. good morning to you. >> good morning, steve. >> steve: that's what the white house is doing now anything they don't like is oftentimes misinformation or disinformation, even though mayorkas himself came out and said you know what? we don't have, after helene, we don't have enough money for the rest of hurricane season. peter's question was not disinformation or misinformation, that was just a fact. >> it was. but it shows you how damaging

politically they think their botched response to hurricane helene has been. they have brought out the big guns, which is, of course, their accusation that anyone making politically damaging statements to them is peddling misinformation. i'm really surprised that they didn't wheel out the old one that they used on the laptop from hell which is russian disinformation this is just there go to when they are in trouble. sinister given they say there is no guarantee to free speech when it comes to what they deem to be misinformation or disinformation. they will bring down the heavy hammer of censorship this week they are using disinformation, misinformation i remember it was last month after the -- you know, the guy was in the hedge line at in the tree line down at

trump national and peter doocy asked karine jean-pierre about how many assassination attempts does there have to be on the former president before you people stop calling him a threat? and she said that question was dangerous. it's not a dangerous question. they were using that word. and so it's just one of those things they are trying to shut people down by saying oh, you're dangerous. you are spreading misinformation, mister. >> yes, look, it is a threat to journalism. a threat to free speech. one that they have freely wielded before. we have seen them threaten social media and social media, therefore has censored people whether it's about covid-19 or rude moments about the first lady or hunter biden's laptop. they censored american speech now what they're saying is if you dare raise any embarrassing

fact like the fact that fema was handing out money to illegal migrants instead of keeping it for hurricane victims like the fact that peter -- that peter doocy mentioned in that question that karine jean-pierre labeled misinformation that the administration has no problem bringing out $160 million to lebanon for humanitarian relief. but says it needs to go congress. to give hurricane victims relief. and it's all about, you know, this idea that biden and harris that is why it is so dangerous to them politically. >> steve: giving all that money to lebanon at the same time when there is a problem getting more money to hurricane victims is a bad look. and, obviously, she was angry at that question because right are after she answered it she stormed out of the room.

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♪ >> ainsley: some good news for former president donald trump. working voters in deep blue philadelphia are reportedly shifting toward the republican party. and while the economy remains the top issue for voters, vp harris can't seem to explain her policy. >> your economic plan would add $3 trillion to the federal deficit over the next decade. how are you going to pay for that? >> the other economists that have reviewed my plan versus my opponent have determined that my economic plan would strengthen americans economy, his would

weaken it. >> the question was how are you going to pay for it? >> well, one of the things i'm going to make sure that the richest among us, who can afford it pay their share share in taxes. >> ainsley: host of making money on fox business, charles payne joins us now. hey, charles. so her economic plan is costly. hats off to bill whitaker who really pressed her on this. how are you going to pay for this. it's going to cost $3 trillion. >> charles: economists never tell you who they are led by george ache love. who is he? janet yellen's husband. come from the same school of economics. >> ainsley: we could find 15 economists say donald trump's plan is better. >> charles: goofy. i wish bill whitaker would have pressed her follow-on answer. the idea is to get the rich to pay their fair share. conversation and debate of whether congress was doing their job. let me lay it out for the folks

out there at least we are working from a basis of facts and then make our opinions after that. the most recent year they can go through all the data with a fine tooth comb 2021. 153.6 million returns. $14.7 trillion in adjusted income, right? that's what they tax. 2.2 trillion of that was taxed. the average tax rate was 14.9%. the average tax rate for the top 1%, 25.9% almost 10 it percentage points above the average tax rate. the average paid 3.3%. if you think 25.9 vs. 3.3 is not fair. throw a number out there. but that sounds pretty fair to me. as a percentage of taxes paid. total income taxes, right? the rich folks did better. their total income was 26.3% of all the income america made that year. and they paid 45.8% up from 42%. they earned 26% of the money and

pay 45.8% of the taxes. so, anywhere in this equation if you tell me that you think nothing's fair, okay, fine, you are entitled to your opinion. but, what is fair and by the way deflecting from the real issue. the more you bring in, you still keep spending more. in other words, we don't have a tax issue in this country. our government collects enough money it's just every time they collect a dollar they spend 2. that's the problem. that's something that they have to be held accountable. and the president on down. >> if you are our age, i'm not going to have any more children, unfortunately, so i'm not going to get that child tax credit. when it comes to small business, i'm probably not going to ever start a small business. it doesn't affect most people, even though i do -- am a proponent of small business. corporate tax income, that effects everybody. if she raises corporate tax from 21 to 28%, big businesses are going to move. people are going to lose their jobs.

it's going to affect our economy. we are going to pay more for items. but people a lot of people don't realize that they hear big corporations. they don't think it's going to effect them. >> yeah, by the way, one of the ironies of all ironies is that the biden-harris economics economy every time they brag about it you have to say what tax rate are you using right now? oh, you are using the trump tax rate. we have the trump tax rate in place right now. all major countries have lowered their taxes over the last 20 years because we live in a globally competitive environment. every single country that wants to compete has lowered their taxes we can raise ours to 28%. she wants really wants 35%. she is on record saying that. it would make us uncompetitive. this administration is paying out tens of billions of dollars right now to the richest corporations that have ever existed. intel just got $6 billion of taxpayer money. by the way, they got the check and then they laid off 15,000 americans the next day be

careful what they say and do and understand none of this has anything to do with economics. >> ainsley: donald trump no tax on social security benefits no, tax on overtime pay and no tax on tips. tell us about your town hall. >> charles: absolutely amazing tomorrow. come check me out. it's about american spirits. it's about animal spirits that made us the greatest country in the world. it's on the ballot. ainsley. >> ainsley: look at the bottom of that screen go get tickets. >> charles: get tickets and i will see everybody in the studio live. can't wait. >> ainsley: more "fox & friends" coming up. stay with us. ♪

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