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>> emily: it's felix election day and it's one of the closest races in recent history. brand-new fox news power rankings released this morning indicate a toss-up presidential race with a key battleground state living from leaning democrat is now a toss-up. the new rankings tee up two events that could prove critical for the candidates. former president trump will grow dumb i joined harris faulkner and a group of women voters tomorrow in georgia for a fox news media town hall. then tomorrow night vice president harris will sit down with bret baier for her first fox news interview, after months of accusations that she was avoiding any tough questions on the campaign trail. hello, everyone. this is "outnumbered." i'm emily compagno here is my cohost, kayleigh mcenany, and also joining us today, molly line, fox news correspondent, mollie hemingway, fox news contributor and editor in chief at ""the federalist,"" and david webb, fox news contributor and host of "the

david lip show" on sirius xm patriot. we begin with alexandria hoff on the new fox news power ranking out today. >> emily, good morning to you. and last forecast, vice president harris had an edge, but this week one state electoral votes have shifted from her column in the direction of former president trump. that state is michigan. democrats have held strong base in 2016 and the state's g.o.p. has struggled, but still the trump team has dedicated a lot of resources there, and the polls show an increasingly tight race, so michigan and its electoral votes have moved to the toss-up category joining arizona, nevada, pennsylvania, georgia, north carolina, and wisconsin. this moves the presidential race as a whole from a harris lead to a toss-up. power rankings predict harris will receive 226 electoral votes, trump 219. there are 93 up for grabs, lots of room for either candidate to reach that magic 270. every high-quality poll has both in the margins of error.

surveys from "the wall street journal" and quinnipiac show the race deadlocked in the rust belt states. we see that they are, and something that's been talked about quite a bit is trump gaining ground with men, plus hispanic and black voters, which is polling true. at the same time women have shifted three points towards harris, she also has the advantage with larger electorates who reliably show up to the, like those with college degrees and seniors. we have three weeks to go until election night, 4 million voters have already cast a ballot. early voting is underway and all battleground states aside from nevada. emily, back to you. >> emily: alexandria, thank you. harris faulkner joins us live from coming georgia with more on her town hall with former president trump. this is against the backdrop now of what we are learning, that vice president harris has gleaned some female voters from president trump. tell us about this all-female town hall you're going to have, and the questions will be asking the president tomorrow.

speak of those fox power rankings, emily, really did teach us a lot about how close things are on the margins here. but at 3% is actually pretty big, because it is time now for closing arguments. so it's no accident that you will see presidents, former and those who want to be president in the future, focusing on, okay, what's a group i want to talk with? women make up the largest number of registered and active voters in america. everyone wants to talk to women. and women's issues are everyone's issues. if you are running three points behind with a little shift with kamala harris, what timing could be better than for former president trump to sit down in a town hall with all women in the hot seat and face the questions? and all things matter, but i've got to tell you, emily, the number one thing, and it continues to cook because we are now edging into the point where a lot of americans spend a lot of money, and that's the holiday season going into the end of the year, the economy. on the prices of things are just

cruelly high. we will talk about abortion. kamala harris has kind of focused her game early on on that, and not so much recently as she tries to go after black voters. interestingly enough, she picked up a few women. trump picked up black men. now she's going hard for that. it is closing argument time for both these candidates. great to be on a daily or from both. we look at the party started with all women in coming georgia tomorrow. >> emily: that sounds like a party indeed. one quick follow-up, if i may. you mentioned issues most important to them voters. as we put up on the screen right now, for the fox news poll, the top issues for women are the same for all americans. abortion, immigration, health care, election integrity. these are so important to women, harris. >> when you look at how many

people are over the 65 age. that's huge if that's true, because that millions of people in a voting group that everybody would want. squeaky close, now we've got to talk about what realistic -- we talk about this on the couch all the time. you can promise all you want, but what realistically can you do? we will dig in and see, can you really promise seniors are going to not tax their social security? we are going to come up with some answers tonight. by the way, i will only ask a couple of questions. literally, i think i'm asking two. dress the audience will be asking. he sit with me every day so you know how much i can talk. it will be a reprieve for everybody. >> emily: it will be incredible, harris. we'll all be watching live. now, kayleigh, some as we discovered. what do you make of this? >> kayleigh: women are a solid voting group.

they show up, it is a place where president trump of course looks to make gains, but he's doing extra nearly well with men. he's doing extra nearly well with young men. he's doing stern eerily well with black and latinos. he has shifted the republican party to really be a working class party. i don't think that can be underestimated. if i were kamala harris, i'd be very nervous right now because i would have woken up sunday and if she reads political news she would have opened up "political playbook" and seen, i lost a point with cbs, three points with abc. oh, my goodness, i lost five points at nbc. if that's not a trend, i don't know what is. the headline i read is from emerson. this is connecticut's fifth district. this is a blue district. this is where new haven is, for those familiar with the northeast. no democrat, no republican presidential candidate has won it, going back to 2000. as the most historical data i could find. they had a congressman who's democratically back to 2000. it probably persists beyond t

that. donald trump trails by just one point. when he pieces altogether, i can see why kamala is trying to reach a new audience coming out of fox news. i can see why she's doing it now. >> emily: if she woke up to a lot of bad news, is she a glutton for punishment? thrown to her by bret baier. she will be on the hot seat with tough, intelligent, thoughtful questions that americans want to know. >> mollie: it's a hot seat but it's a great opportunity for her. this is the chance for her to get out and appeals of those voters that haven't made up their mind, the ones that watch fox news, because they want to hear from the right and the left and want to get some idea of what she's going to do for middle america and the people in the districts. these are people from michigan and pennsylvania that watch fox news all the time and are going to be watching this interview. then there's the idea that somewhere down the line she could be doing some more interviews. the problem is she doesn't do enough of these high-profile interviews. there's a lot of pressure on

her. when she doesn't perform well or when we are still talking about 60 minutes editing as we head into a profile interview on fox, what is going to be the moment and is when? and bret baier is a fantastic interviewer. you don't have to give him a hint of what to ask or say, but he has reach out and said, what do you want to ask? so there's that element that maybe shelby asked what the voters want to hear about. >> emily: as we saw on that poll, with women, at least, and the majority of americans, its economy, immigration, security, all about how you are affected every day as you have been negatively by this administration. >> david: to harris' point that women care about the same issues, it's not as if there's a divide between men and women. when it comes to these issues, it's a family unit. if you break out the female vote, where you have the family unit vote where you have a father and mother and maybe you have an 18-year-old plus child, you start to see a divide between women voters and the family unit and younger women that harris is trying to appeal

to on the abortion issue. but when you get into the other issues and into the family unit or, to her point, 65 and older, the retiring generation of boomers, they are paying attention to the economy, to security, and those issues favor trump where the issues and the policies align. if you don't like the person, if you don't like the party, what about the platform and your desired outcome? >> emily: here's my question to you. which kamala do you think we have that tomorrow? we have seen she can be, frankly, a chameleon depending which audience she's in front of. more specifically, how she perceives the audience in front of her. tomorrow do you think we'll get straight answers and straight policy that we can ask her from her? >> molly: i think it would serve her well the answer questions in a straightforward manner. when you look through these polls, 70 people say, we don't know what she think about the border. they don't know what her actual economic plan is. she's done a very poor job of communicating that. but i just wanted to highlight also this excellent point that david made. you go back even to the barack obama campaign, remember,

it was all about getting women to vote, and it was one where she constantly dealt with the government, but she didn't actually have her own husband or any sort of happy family situation. the difference with women is whether they are in a family unit or not. they have single women who look to the government to provide that family unit that they are not getting otherwise. married women tend to vote republican. >> emily: fascinating. guys, be sure to tune into harris faulkner's trumped town hall on "the faulkner focus" tomorrow. that's 11:00 a.m. eastern time. then tomorrow at 6:00 p.m. eastern is when vice president kamala harris will join fox news chief political anchor bret baier on "special report." former president trump is about to speak at an economic forum in chicago as new polling reveals how voters feel about his policies versus president biden's. we will bring that to use before

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with 60 years of clinical experience, it's the number one doctor recommended brand for ear ringing. and now i'm finally free. take back control with lipo flavonoid. >> kayleigh: former president bill clinton is out stumping for vice president harris, and while trying to defend her record as border czar him he suddenly suggested that nursing student laken riley would still be alive if it were not for the biden-harris border policies. they cut clinton's remarks and they were sent out by the trump campaign and used in this ad. >> and on the immigration thing, she is the only candidate who has actually endorsed a bill that would hold down immigration in any given year to a certain point, and make sure that we gave people a decent place to

live, and we did total venting before people got in. now, trump killed the bill. the bill was being written by senior republicans in the senate, and he killed the bill. why? you've got a case in georgia not very long ago. they made an ad about a young woman who had been killed by an immigrant. well, if they had all been properly vetted, that probably wouldn't have happened. but if they are properly vetted, that doesn't happen. >> kayleigh: okay, bubba needs a fact-check. [laughter] that's a fact-check there. this drives me, to no end, just -- it enrages me. number one, biden till at the executive orders of the trump administration. number two, he always had

section 212f authority under the immigration and nationality act. let's pull the set. he could have done this at any moment. whenever the president signs would be detrimental to the interest of the u.s., he may by proclamation and for such period as he shall deem necessary suspend the entry of all or any class. not only that, he had executive authority, and he also had controlled congress for two years. we'll put this up. when democrats controlled the presidency, the senate, the house, january 2021 to january 2023. as you pointed out, david webb, the bill he's talking about kim after this period. >> david: is a minor detail. bill clinton can time travel, politically. it's ridiculous. they keep pushing the lie. they know they lie. he is not joe biden. he knows what he's doing and he is a master at twisting reality to make it seem like it works. just like the point about trump killing the bill, byron donalds from florida and many others,

republicans, long before trump weighed in on the bill, said this bill is going nowhere. theye senator lankford. well, that is a massive failure. that's the same senator, by the way, who is now complaining about the rest of the siv on a plot to create -- he used terrorism on election day. that's not bipartisan. it was just bad. but he's way out of time. the democrats need to do this for the next 21 days, which is lie to you about the actual circumstance and facts and hoping enough people buy it. >> kayleigh: and they stayed immigrant with a came in -- it doesn't make much of a difference. humanitarian parole would be entering legally, but he should have been vetted. he was not. emily, laken riley's killer, i don't even want to say his name, but i do want to pull at his record, because bill clinton does indeed write that he should have been vetted. he became demott came illegally into the country in september of 2022, released into the interior, then you can see in

september of '23 he's arrested in new york city for acting in a manner to injure a child. see month, goes on to athens, georgia, then two months later you see he received his citation for shoplifting and ultimately laken riley, who he allegedly killed, lost her life. >> emily: just like bambi larson, whose alleged murderer also had a massive recidivist rap sheet, and but for the sanctuary city and protections afforded by this administration and the city of san jose, bambi larson would still be alive. that person would be, per the law, deported and incarcerated along time time ago. and a murder and many assaults ago. the reality, and this is what is devastating, laken riley's name is not alone. just one name is too many, but the reality is there are thousands, millions of people who have been detrimentally affected at the hands of the lack of vetting by this administration. i have to point out that trotting at president clinton thinking it will help remind me of the governor whitmer antic

with a feminist influence or eating the territo, where these people are supposed to help the ticket. we are seeing, to your point about the lies, that little red riding hood wolf with the grandmother's outfit on. you can see you are still just a wolf. these policies are still terrible. they are still absolutely detrimental to americans. so you lying or trying to switch the narratives, we can see the wolf for what it is. that's been the sit administration. whoever they trot out to try to stick to the script inevitably flips and tells the truth, shows the truth or what it is, a horrible perversion of american values and many things held dear. >> kayleigh: the d.c. swamp journalist, martha raddatz, said there's only a handful of gangs taking over apartment buildings. that went viral yesterday. anderson cooper last night called it the nonexistent gang invasion in colorado. i want to play -- our viewers deserve facts. this is what happened in cyndi's

apartment building. >> i was pushed out of my apartment by gang activity. people carrying guns in the hallway and patrolling the grounds with guns. i feel like the mayor and the government and the apd auld downplayed the situation. they were six people outside my door with guns. that's not counting all the other ones they used two patrol the property with guns. how many gangs is okay to have in aurora? how many properties is okay to take over? how many people who are citizens paying their bills is it okay to displace? few months of her problem is in nonexistent according to jared polis, according to anderson cooper, and she is "just a handful" according to martha. >> mollie: when j.d. vance said, "do you hear yourself, martha?" i think he spoke for all of america. everyone is so frustrated, how are media take real stories and hides in and take other stories and elevate them. i don't remember people saying, george floyd, that's just one

guy, when we had a whole summer of violent riots. that was quite different than the way they portrayed it. and also this other thing, this woman is talking here and giving her own first-hand experience. i approve colorado. the story has been going on for months. when people in the media say, lee called the government officials in charge of cleaning things up, and actually it's no big deal, that is not end the story. that shows how incompetent the government officials in colorado are at dealing with a major issue. it is of course also a federal issue. >> kayleigh: molly, i'm sensing a trend. axios talked about historic low trust in media. this remind me of hurricane relief. the residents of north carolina are just liars. this woman is just a liar out in colorado. they are all just liars and know it alls. anderson cooper and martha raddatz have the facts. >> molly: this is the most frustrating thing when you see the media piling onto gaslighting, the government saying in his particular case, in aurora, where they said it was in the imagination of the city councilors and the people trying to get help, and the

video comes out with the men with the guns in the hallways and you realize there is some reality there. then haiti's personal stories and it gets more upsetting when you see a journalist doing that thing where, "this problem isn't really that big, if the fuel pump and complex is. you are exaggerating. this is your imagination." whenever but he can see it, and then j.d. vance, as you mentioned, very instantly pushes back on that in the moment. people can see reality. and not believe the media and the government. and make decisions for yourself. >> emily: do you remember when don lemon interviewed people on the boardwalk and someone talk about they lived experience and he said "that's not what the statistics say!" >> kayleigh: that's a great reminder. that is so true. i will take the word of cindy romero over anderson cooper and martha raddatz, the great journalist. coming up, former president trump about to speak at an economic forum in chicago. we'll bring that to you live, and the sleep issue of the 2024 race that could hurt vice president harris.

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>> emily: "the wall street journal" editorial board says that transgender athletes in women's sports have become a sleeper issued in this election, and now female volleyball players from nevada university at reno are forfeiting a scheduled match against san jose state over allegations that one san jose state player was born a male. nevada reno players to their safety is on the line. they are the fifth collegiate team to forfeit a match against that san jose state team. claudia cowan is live with more. claudia? >> hey, emily. we are seeing a player revolt happened here at the university of nevada with school officials adamant that the game will go on october 26th as scheduled, and the players saying they won't show up. university of nevada reno's women's volleyball team is the fifth to forfeit a match against san jose state, which has a

roster that includes a player named blair fleming. according to a lawsuit against the ncaa, fleming is a male. what's more, the lawsuit alleges, school officials told the players to "not speak about fleming's sex or gender identity with anyone outside the team." that didn't sit well with fleming's roommate and team cocaptain, who has joined the federal lawsuit to protect women in sports. she says fleming's spikes are so powerful they could seriously injure other players, and she says it isn't fair for a biological man to take a scholarship spot away from a female athlete. >> i was honest with blair from day one, i don't agree with this, and i'm not going to hate on what you choose to do with your life personally, but in volleyball i just can't stand for that. >> in a statement, san jose state said it is committed to helping other student athletes "participate in an inclusive, fair, and respect the

environment." but they spend no comment about blair fleming, who denied our interview request. they still live together along with two other teammates. admitting it is stressful, but says in private and publicly at games she has been getting overwhelming support for taking a stand. she says she supports nevada and the four other schools that are forfeiting games. she says they're doing this for a good reason and she says she believes the tide is turning in the trans ideology movement. emily? >> emily: claudia, thank you. meanwhile the transgender debate is becoming a major issue in this year's election. this statement from then presidential candidate kamala harris shook up the race. watch. >> when i was attorney general, i learned that the california department of corrections were standing in the way of surgery. >> for prisoners? >> for prisoners. and there was a specific case.

when i lurked dumb i learned about the case, i worked behind-the-scenes to make sure that not only did that transgender women get the services she was deserving, i made sure they changed the policy in the state of california so that every transgender inmate in the prison system would have access to the medical care that they desired and need. >> emily: former president trump began featuring that statement in his ads late last month. >> kamala supports taxpayer-funded changes for prisoners. >> surgery. >> for prisoners. >> kamala is for they/them. president trump is for you. >> emily: days after those ads started airing, charlamagne tha god admitted they were effective. >> would hear the narrator say kamala supports tax funded six changes for prisoners, that wasn't lying. i was like, hell naw, i don't want my taxpayer dollars going to that. many americans to understand

their taxpayer dollars paid for, example, contraception and women's prisons. why do we need contraception and all women's prisons? why do we need sexual harassment training? why do we need so much of the underbelly, the dark underbelly of this joke of the use of our taxpayer dollars that are threatening females? if you are actually a feminist advocate, actually a supporter of women, you would be against all of this. >> david: wow. can i have my brain back, by the way? because we are sharing one today. when kamala harris says "i worked behind-the-scenes," it was the right thing to do, why are you working behind the scenes? common sense. new jersey. women, pregnant, in a women's prison, by other trans women? i'm sorry, it doesn't work that way. i paid attention in biology. this is all about an ideology that was intended to change the way we think and see, whether it's about contraception or any other things you can throw in there. it's to break apart the culture. keeping women single, it

might've been you who made that point. it was all about changing the way women see issues and things and believe in the unbelievable, which is what they're doing with this transgender ideology. frankly, my taxpayer dollars, nobody's taxpayer dollars should go to somebody's personal choice. >> emily: let's talk about the fact that this is now a sleeper or major election issue, because parents are fed up that they are biologically female children are suspended for saying "i don't want to take a shower with this person." they have an repercussions throughout society because of these woke policies, and americans are fed up. gavin newsom passing laws that now it will act in local apprentice as a state if you choose not to affirm your child's new transgender care. how is that acceptable? it makes no wonder that it is indeed a major issue. >> molly: this is an issue not just at the presidential level but many senate races come as well. tammy baldwin, people didn't realize how radical she was and

still stomach until she started highlighting how her views are the same as kamala harris on the trans issue. and it shows like biden was such a better candidate. even that he shares the viewpoints on this issue, he was better at being political about it in a way that you don't have them on videotape or with the legislative history that shows just how radical they are. but this is also in texas becoming an issue and other places. trans issues were sold as being tolerant and people are seeing, it is destroying distinctions for everybody in america. >> emily: that's the rub, kayleigh. this has been cloaked in, you are supportive of lgbtq, love is love, all individuals, but the mutilation and erosion of a lot of societal values. as he talked about, suspensions, all the like, that's an baked into the laws and such. but it is radical. it is not gentle. >> kayleigh: and it's totally misleading. i remember "the washington post" kss put out there pulling on this and they buried it, they released all the results and waited months to release their polling on this. but it showed his north of 60 percent don't think

biological men should be in women's sports, north of 60 percent don't want hormone treatment for minors, and 79% sy think it is inappropriate to discuss trans identity in k-3 education. when they flipped it and said what about anti-lgbt, the polling change. so we have to talk about this for what it is, and we can talk about the mutilation of minors. >> emily: to that, do you think those ads will be effective for trump? >> mollie: i think that's why they doing them. your point about the polling is a great one. a lot of people have a middle ground on this issue. they are full lgbtq, support gay marriage, and believe in themselves thinking as a liberal, but also see perhaps there is not a fairness involved in men participating in women's sport. this is the thought that there's a lot of middle ground being ignored. and that these ads would target that middle ground, where people can have very strong feelings, that on particular issues within the topic, i think he could really hit across political boundaries. liberals and conservatives can share feelings on some of these

issues. >> david: it is not a minor point, it's a small point, bigger than that. gays are being erased. if you have some feeling of other and you're not sure, you are told he must go through surgery, chemical castration, or some other treatment or psychological treatment. ask the gay community how they feel about this. >> emily: we are awaiting former president trump who is set to speak at the economic forum in chicago. we will bring that to use before. we'll be right back. ♪(voya)♪ there are some things that work better together. like your workplace benefits and retirement savings. voya provides tools that help you make the right investment and benefit choices. so you can reach today's financial goals and look forward to a more confident future. voya, well planned, well invested, well protected. what do we want more of? more laughs. more hang outs. yeah, more of all of this stuff. but getting older also means more risk of serious flu, covid-19, and rsv. vaccines lower your risk, so you can keep doing more.

>> emily: new reports claim the vice president kamala harris is in talks to appear on joe rogan's wildly popular podcast. some believe the appearance would be a way for harris to shore up her lagging support with male voters.

all that comes as former president trump is teasing his own appearance on rogan's show. but let's hearken back to a certain cnn analyst that said at the time, if you listen to joe rogan, you need therapy. watch. >> not all men are in crisis, of course, and not all men are just at home listening to joe rogan, being angry or being recruited to fascism. some just need therapy, like we all do. i go to therapy. that's great. but i think we need to have a real conversation about that rather than allowing this kind of drift toward this faux masculinity that we see with donald trump. [laughter] >> emily: you couple that with the new pro-harris adware series admin say, this is how i can support kamala harris. intriguing if she actually goes on. >> kayleigh: he gets one of

the most popular podcast if not the most popular podcast in the world to another country, the world. he's a straight shooter brit i was listening to part of his podcast this morning. he just speaks the truth and says what a lot of people are thinking. it is brilliant for trump to go on there. kamala, i would say it's brilliant, but he has tough and smart questions. he would do that of both candidates. great for trump. he can handle it. i don't know about kamala. >> emily: may i posit, the reason he said while the popular is who he has on page is have a preconceived notion. he hosts them without preconceived notions, without a script, which is so wildly different from the democratic machine that says if you don't think in lockstep, it will excommunicate you. that's why they hate him. he inspires people to think for themselves. i don't know how well she would do in that platform. >> mollie: the easy listening, casual conversations in the car, it's a great opportunity because

now there's outreach toward men going on across the board. this is a niche and she's trying to break into and pull those voters. it's a great idea. does the barrel moment happen? most likely, he's great at creating viral moments, and what would hers be after that? that's a big risk, i suppose. >> emily: i predict it is viral word salad. >> david: what is the over under on joe rogan and trump versus harris? because joe rogan will go for three hours. can you imagine kamala harris going for three hours, two hours, one hour, 45 minutes, with a guy who literally doesn't care? he'll ask you anything at a moment's notice. contrast that with trump who can go for three hours and keep you engaged at a rally. let's face it, this is kamala harris trying to pretend that the new form really toxic masculinity that were white males is now acceptable in

joe rogan over the new masculine tim walz he can't load a shotgun. i'm a little confused here. can somebody in the audience help me? >> emily: but a camo hat, don't worry, that says it all. i don't see him letting her get away with evading an answer, not pinning down to an answer. for three hours he would say, you said this. what is your policy? feet to the fire. >> mollie: they leaked that she might do this and it reminds me when they said beyonce would show up at the dnc just to gin up ratings but it didn't happen. i'll be curious if it happens. to this point, three hours of questioning? unless she is in a completely protected environment with people who have actually endorsed her, she doesn't actually do even remotely well in her interviews. being able to sustain answers over a long period of time, this might be a tremendous challenge for her. unlike we have seen in the donald trump videos regionally. i would encourage people to watch them, in part because he is so different than how he seems when he's on with hostile media. he asked the host's questions.

they are laughing and telling stories. it's a really comfortable environment for him, and i do not get the sense -- unless she is talking about her love of ending lives in the womb, she doesn't feel comfortable. >> emily: such a great point, he thrives in an unstructured environment, whereas she sort of decompensate's without her script, without her talking point. she just did a couple podcasts. she failed miserably in the blowback was frankly pretty significant. contrast that with after president trump did his podcast, the blowback was positive. it increased polls, it increased i think a forgiving approach toward him in contrast to the narrative the left-wing media has portrayed, that he is a beast. >> mollie: and other point on that, cbs "60 minutes" aren't so much trouble because of how they deceptively edited the interview with kamala harris. they also removed 5 minutes a speaker johnson's first hand testimony what's going on in north carolina. joe rogan has 200 million downloads a month. this is major media in a way that cbs and 60 minutes are increasingly not.

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>> kayleigh: former president trump is speaking now the economic club of chicago. he's done quite a few of these. let's listen in. >> we are going to bring the company's back. we are going to lower taxes for companies that are going to make their product in the usa. we are going to protect this companies with strong tariffs, because i'm a believer in tariffs. i'm not sure you are, i don't think you are, i'd like to congratulate you on your career. [laughter] to me the most beautiful word in the dictionary is "tariff." it's my favorite word. it needs a public relations firm. [applause] to help it. but to me it is most beautiful word. >> do you think it will bring in the revenues? to use another bipartisan group? it only brings in $200 billion. that's barely the cost of two of your promises. >> but for what company are you talking about, okay?

then covid came. i'll tell you what, i did a very good job on covid. nobody knew what the hell it was. i called the china virus because i like being a little more accurate, when that came. we had hundreds of billions of dollars just from china alone, and i hadn't even started yet. the tariffs are two things. we are going to have thousands of companies coming into this country. we are going to grow it like it's never gone before and we are going to protect them when they come in because you're not going to have somebody undercut them. i could give you an example of this if you want. would you like me to? >> give me a quick example and i'll come back. >> i just found out about it. i've been talking about for the last year about detroit and how horrible it's been. it's just horrible. leave and talk about detroit coming back for 40 years and it's never come back.

it's very dependent on the car industry. steve lost 60% of the business over a long period lack of time, and what happened is i found out -- a friend of mine builds auto plants. that's all he does. that's what he's good at. he doesn't want to build an apartment. he builds the biggest in the world. for the last year and a half, if anybody would speak -- i was talking about mexico as a tremendous challenge for us right now. tremendous. china is building massive auto plants in mexico. they're going to build them and they're going to take those cars and sell them into the united states, very near the border, and they are going have all the advantages and none of the disadvantages, and that's going to be handed michigan in the end of, frankly, south carolina. it's going to be the end of everything. i've been talking about this, and i said him about nine months ago. i said, you know what? i want you to do me a favor, john. his name is john. i don't want to give his last name, because he might not like

it. he said, i want to go see an auto plant. he pressed the button and everything works. i want to see one of the big ones. he said, all right, good. i said, where do we go? i'd like to go to michigan or some place in the united states. he said, we can't do that. why? wiwe are not building the big os here. i said, where are you building the biggest ones? he said, we are building giant plants, the biggest plants anywhere in the world, in mexico. in mexico, i said? you mean they're going to make cars cheaply, they have advantages over labor and other things and they're going to sell them into the united states put michigan out of business? i don't know anything about that. all i do is build the plant. if you want to see a plant, little go to mexico and i'll show you the biggest plant in the world. that was nine months ago. i talked about it all the time, because i think it is a serious threat to our country. not only auto, but other things. i was talking at a very nice club like this, except i think

you people are probably even wealthier, okay? [laughter] i was showing all sorts of charts. it's gone down, it's terrible. i saw him and i said, "oh, how have you been?" i said, "could i ask you how those plants are that you mention, those giant plants are building in mexico? how is that coming along? heavy finish them?" "no, sir. they abandoned the project when they heard you were running. they abandoned the project when they saw that you were winning and doing well." i said, "wow." [applause] i said it publicly. they're not going to sell one car into the united states. i said, "if i run this country, if i'm going to be president in this country, i'm going to put

the 2000% tariff. not going to sell one car into the united states. we are not going to destroy our country. i know you are an anti-tariff guy, and the exact opposite. there is no other way i could've stopped that other than, what am i going to do, negotiate with mexico or china? you're not going to get anything from them. i'm going to put the highest tariff history, meaning and when to stop them from ever selling a car in the united states. he says, "sir, they've abandoned it." by the way, they built foundations, they were really rocking. they thought i was going to win or maybe they just are holding off. i'll tell you this, if i don't win come of those factories are going to wipe out this country. they are the biggest factors ever built cars. she doesn't know what the hell she's doing. if she wins, she's not going to

be thinking about -- beyond even the car companies, all of those things are now dead. i asked him, will they start? probably not, they're dead as a door nail. she gets it and it'll up again. >> you talked a lot about tariffs. look at the american economy, 14 million jobs or ion trade. accounts for 27% of gdp. if you cut that off, that's also going to affect many business people here. tariffs also have another side. isn't that something they have to acknowledge? you could be plunging america into the biggest trade war since -- you are going to -- there are tariffs already. >> there are no tariffs. all you have to do is build your plant in the united states and you don't have any tariffs. >> a lot of places like this, there are a lot of jobs that rely on foreigners coming here.

you're going to basically stop trade with china. as you said, 200% on things you don't really like. you're also talking about 10-20% tariffs on the rest of the world. that's going have a serious effect on the overall economy. yes, you're going to find some people who will gain from individual tariffs. the overall effect could be massive in terms of the economy. >> i agree it's going to have a massive positive effect. i know how committed you are to this. it must be hard to talk about tariffs and the negative and have some to explain to you that you're totally wrong. [laughter] i'll take it a step further. they're all coming back. >> this 14 million jobs in america that rely on trade. >> john deere, great company.

they announced about a year ago that they are going to build big plants outside of the united states. they're going to build them in mexico. >> and they stopped. >> that's right. i said, if john deere builds as plants, they're not selling anything into united states. they just announced yesterday they're probably not going to build the plants, okay? i kept the jobs here, and john deere will stay here. i will tell john deere, if you do build outside the united states, you can if you want. for instance, india is a very tough country. it is not only china. china is, i would say, probably the toughest, but there are a lot of tough ones. you know it's really tough? european union. our beautiful european countries, wonderful. if you add them up, they are almost the size of us. they treat us so badly, we have a deficit. i said to angela merkel and she was there -- she's not there anymore, and wonder why? [laughter] but when she was there i said, angela, how many chevrolets do you have in berlin?

"you have none." i said, that's right. how many floyds do you have in frankfurt? "i don't know, none." i said, that's right. you know how many we have? mercedes-benz, bmw. the volkswagen. millions and millions of cars. and then i said, they don't want anything from us. we have deficits that are crazy. you're not going to have any more. we are going to put tariffs on them, and they're going to do -- you know what they can do? mercedes-benz will start building in the united states, and they have a little bit. but you know what they really are? like in south carolina, they build everything in germany and they assemble it here. they get away with murder because they say, yes, we are building cars. they don't build cars. they take them out of the box and >> let's come back to the europeans and a second here or about consumers? critics say your tariffs will end up being a