i said, that's right. how many floyds do you have in frankfurt? "i don't know, none." i said, that's right. you know how many we have? mercedes-benz, bmw. the volkswagen. millions and millions of cars. and then i said, they don't want anything from us. we have deficits that are crazy. you're not going to have any more. we are going to put tariffs on them, and they're going to do -- you know what they can do? mercedes-benz will start building in the united states, and they have a little bit. but you know what they really are? like in south carolina, they build everything in germany and they assemble it here. they get away with murder because they say, yes, we are building cars. they don't build cars. they take them out of the box and >> let's come back to the europeans and a second here or about consumers? critics say your tariffs will end up being a national sales

tax. eight. >> former president trump: no. >> $3 trillion worth of imports and you will add terrace to every single one of them and push up the cost for all of thee people to buy foreign goods and that is simply to make simple mathematics. you. >> yes it has but i was always good at mathematics. use say $3 trillion. but the higher that terror at the, the more likely it is to have them come in. >> that harris said to rip the more the value on the goods and the more people will have to pay insurance. >> ready? the higher of the terrorists the more likely it's the country will come into the united states and build a factory in the united states so it doesn't have to paid the tariff. >> that will take many, many, many years. >> there is another theory that the terrorist, you make it so

high, so horrible, so obnoxious they will come right away. when i do 10% -- 2% its relate -- first of all, 10% when you collected is hundreds of billions of dollars. the numbers that you are talking about all reducing the deficit your child that are two ways of looking at a tara aerogel you co it as a moneymaking instrument or you can do it as something to get the companies -- now if you want the companies to come in, the tariff has to be higher than 10% because it's not high enough. they will not do it for 10% that you percent tariff and they will come in. let me tell you the other thing about tariff which is great. when i was in office, i saw a man from a big steel company and he was devastated. i knew him for a long time here until it was a tough business and a great business years ago but i would not let u.s. steel be sold to japanese, by the way, psychologically.

i wouldn't let it be so here until i would stop it if it hasn't been completed by the time i am president because i think it sets a horrible tone. but i had a lot to do with steel and we will lose our steel companies because china was dumping steel at levels no one has seen before. i put 15% tax on it or tariff on it. and it was also bad what they called dirty steel, which is bad thing for structural components of buildings and planes and things like that. they were dumping crap into the country and i started 15% for 2o i raised it for 50% terrace and they stop dumping steel. i saved our steel and we saved it. now, what was left because we have lost so much, there are certain companies you have to have in certain things have to

have. steel you have to have. if you go to war, a possibility of going to war but i kept us out of or. as only present in 82 years that kept you out of war except i defeated isis, but i am here at at that. no wards! [applause] by the way, i think it is important, you won't have the weeds as long as you end up in the right location at the end. while i'm talking about it we have never been so close to world war iii as we have right now with what is going on in ukraine, russia, the middle east. i had no wars in the whole world, think of it. i talked plenty of countries out of work. i had the whole world other thad i knocked out isis in a matter of weeks. it was supposed to take four to five years and i did it in a matter of weeks. we have a great military but they don't how to use it. >> i was asking you about

tariffs and many people would say the biggest problem with your tariffs is geopolitics here till you got some credit for effectively saying there was a d war against china. that is what america was in here until the last cold war, the soviet union america won it in part because it rallied allies to it. you are talking about slamming allies with 30% and 20% tariffs you will rally the west and dividing it instead? isn't that the real problem with tariffs due to the economy and you bring up these individual examples but the overall effect will be dramatic. about foreign policy. how does it help you take on china and your allies around? >> china thinks we are a stupid commentary on that country. they can't believe someone got wise to them.

not one president, bush, barack obama, have you heard mark not one president -- think of it, not one president, china, anything said a third world nation and developing. we are developing nation, also sucks, look at a detroit, the city's, we have to develop moren they do and we are way behind them that you take a look at what is happening to our cities. >> my question was about your allies and not about china. you will annoy the rally behind you. >> but our allies have taken advantage of us more so than our enemies. our allies are the european union. we have a trade deficit of $300 billion with the european union. our allies are japan. a very good friend of mine, a great guy and they said to him in japan, he was assassinated, and he was a great man, he really was periods i didn't too many like him.

he got very sick and he had to take off and he was actually making a comeback and he was going to make a comeback and he would have won easily. he was at great gentleman, and some, wonderful man, respected by everybody. i went to him and i said, "we have to talk trade." and another thing, "i know." 's "i know." i need you become a debate that i wouldn't tell this story actually said, "i can't believe how many years it has been that nobody negotiated with us in america." >> you have to pay for your car is because send millions of cars. you don't have one car you accept and yet we are selling 3 million or 4 million of your cards. i said, on agriculture you won't even accept our agriculture

there until i negotiated trade from a little disadvantage because i was stuck with a bad deal. we have trade deals that were so bad that i said, "who are the people doing it?" they are stupid or paid off, one or the other. it is very simple. we had the worst trade deals all over the world. south korea, they are wonderful people and extremely ambitious but they have money ambition. we protect them from north korea and other people. north korea is very nuclear but i got along with him while kim jong un in -- but wait, they don't pay us anything. and i said, "this is crazy. if i did not put tariffs on the motor company, the car companies, they make most of their monies on small trucks." i put tariffs 7.5% otherwise we would be flooded with chinese cars. all of the factories would close and we would have no jobs at all

in the auto industry. that goes by electric, by the way, which is a killer. i put tariffs on south korea because they were sending in trucks. i put tariffs on fairly substantial tariffs. car companies make all their money with the small trucks, suvs and small trucks. if i took those tariffs up you would be inundated in every car company would be out of business. i got calls from ford and everybody saying, "sir, i can't believe you are doing this for us. you saved our company." they make all of their money and most of their money with the small truck in the suvs. >> many consumers ended up with more expensive cars that let me come at you on foreign policy. you had said that taiwan should pay for u.s. protection. i ask because this morning you mentioned north korea and the chinese army literally as we speak or engaged in rehearsals

for full enabled blockade to taiwan. if china invades taiwan, would you send american troops to defend it? >> the reason they are doing it now is because they will not do it afterwards so they are doing it now. look, i had a -- i had a very -- [applause] -- i had a very good relationship with president xi and a very good relationship with kim jong un who is an nuclear force you wouldn't even believe. by the way, it was announced that he just blew up the railroad going into south korea. that mean south korea is now cut off from russia and china and various other places. >> mr. trump, you just mentioned -- >> i have to mention this. fake of the controversy this past week, can you say yes or no other you have talked to vladimn since you stopped being president? >> former president trump: i don't comprehend that comment on that but it is a smart thing.

if i am friendly with people and i get in a relationship with people that it's a good in terms of a bad thing in terms of the country. yes 2,000 nuclear weapons and so do we. china has a lot less but they will catch us in five years. i don't talk about that. russia has never had a president that they respect so much more importantly or less importantly, i guess, i went into rushing people said, "oh, he likes vladimir putin and vladimir putin likes him." the first thing i did is terminate nord stream 2 and nobody heard about nord stream 2 a pipeline from russia to germany and all over europe. i said wait a minute to nato, let's get this straight, my first meeting, i said, "putin is building the biggest pipeline in the world and in germany and all over the world, and you are paying him billions of dollars a

year, billions of dollars a month." germany is paying billions of dollars a month and we are supposed to protect you against a guy paying all of this. is there something wrong with my thinking? so he's building a pipeline to germany and we are spending -- and by the way, until i got there, we were spending 100% for nato because we had delinquent countries that were not paying. when i got there, i said, "you know what -- by the way, my biggest fan secretary general of nato, he said when push came and he made a speech and left and obama came in and made a speech and left and trump came in and made a speech and said let me see how it looks. i found out in the books there were only seven countries and we were supporting nato and they screw us on trade so bad, that european missions. on top of that, the military so

they are taking tremendous advantage of us, $350 billion, $1 trillion, and we are so pale to make supporting them. and you just can't keep doing that and have that or china or these countries and stoop and people made these deals. i started trade deals that were so stupid -- excuse me that were so bad that you would have to be an idiot to sign them. and we signed them for years. we had -- we had -- i could tell you trade deals that i have never seen. who would agree to this question if they had to be correct. they had to be corrupt. to make those deals they had to be corrupt because there is no way a rational human being -- i always say either corrupt or extremely stupid because there is no way a rational human being would ever sign a trade deal at this country signed. i got out of many of those deals. i'm sorry, you have to pay for a

year military. we have 40,000 troops over there. you have to pay. you have become a very wealthy country just to finish, no, no, no we will not pay! we will not! we paid since the korean war. i said, you have to pay and $5 million to start off with. no, no! they went crazy. i got $2 billion for nothing. and i said, "here is what we are going to do, we can agree to this because we have to go through parliament." they have the permit or whatever the legislature is. that's okay, i understand make it $2 billion that next year i will talk to you again and then i was going to make it $5 million. and they knew it was coming, that the happiest people to see biden instead of trump, south korea. you know but they did? they cut off the deal i did and back to nothing because they went back to biden and they gave

it to him for nothing. they were willing to pay. we had 40,000 troops in harm's way, very serious because north korea has serious power in tremendous nuclear. i said took out till next south korea, "you have to pay" and they agreed to do it. biden cut it back and it is a shame. and if i were there now they would be paying $10 billion a year. you know what, can of they would be happy to do it. you will mention taiwan. >> you mention taiwan and you said you would defend them. and putin you seem to apply you had talked to him. >> i said i don't comment on those things. >> can i ask you a particular thing about the dollar. you talked about wars, if he lost the dollar as a reserve currency, it would be like america losing the war. look what you will do in terms of protectionism and tried countries to use the other currencies and all that that

that is also going to lessons that dollar status of well reserved currency. they quote reserve currency is the strongest. >> in a moment there is anything called trump trade into markets markets. the trump trade is that think that you will drive up debt and drive up inflation so they will try for up inflation and interest rates. are the investors wrong? >> i had for years no inflation. i had for years no inflation. [applause] i had four years and it is better than that. and biden who has no idea where the hill he is, okay? biden went to years with no inflation because he inherited it from me. they started spending money like drunken sailors and it was so ridiculous the money they were spending. agree new scam, the green new scam, green new deal, you know

it was conceived aoc plus three. she never even studied the environment in college. she went to a nice college. she came out and she said, agree new scam and named all these things. no, wait a minute. speak of the markets are looking at the fact you are making these promises and you are flooding with giveaways. i was actually quite kind to you because i use $7 trillion. the upper estimate is $15 trillion and people like "the wall street journal" or you'll hardly a communist. you are running up enormous debt. >> what does "the wall street journal" and they've been wrong about everything and so have you, by the way. you have been wrong. >> you are trying to turn this, you are trying to turn this into a debate as if there are business people -- >> you've been wrong all your life on this stuff. no, let me tell you about

currency. you want to cover a lot of subjects. the reserve currency, that is where you start. the reserve currency is under threat because you have iran, russia, china -- china is that when you have to worry about because they wanted. the thing at power. so here is what i'm doing, again, i hate to go back to it if somebody says -- and i know countries want to get out because they don't respect their leadership. they look at this guy are you kidding? i never thought i would say this, she is not as smart as biden if you can believe it. we had for years of this lunacy and we can't have anymore. we will not have a country left. okay, currency, very important. if you want to go to third world status, leisure reserve currency. we have to have it. we cannot lose it. give a go to third world status

simplex country because you take a look at the way things are running. if a country tells me, "are, be like you very much but we will no longer the end of third world reserve currency. we will not salute the dollar anymore." i will say, "that is okay and you will pay 100% tariff everything you sell into the united states, and we love your product and i hope you sell a lot in the united states that you will pay 100% tariff." he will follow up by stating, ," it will be an honor to stay with the reserve currency." that is not even chess/checkers. listen to this, you don't have other people back and talk that way. a lot of people say, we love trump's policy but we want another messenger because we don't like him and he's a little crass. it was actually lindsey graham i must say in all fairness but

lindsey graham said trump's policy doesn't work without trump. there is a lot of truth to that. emmanuel macron, emanuel's, he a wise guy but he is for france and we are for the usa. he was going to text american companies doing business in france, a very substantial tax. i tell my people, i didn't even like the companies but i am representing american companies. so i said, "call emmanuel macron and say we will not stand for that. "i got a lot of smart guys if i can finish. i will go longer if you want. you have got to be able to finish a thought because it is very important. this is a big step we are talking about. so let me just tell you. i'm just telling you basic, it is called a wave. all of these different things happening. just let me say i said call him

up and say, "no way! does quote, they won't do it sir. then i said, let me do it and i called him and i said, emmanuel, you are texting american companies, very substantially and you are not doing it with other companies. you must think we are stupid. it is not going to happen. "i cannot do anything, it is too late." it is approved by legislation. every bottle of wine a an end champagne use and into the united states effective immediately and i sign it as i speak, i am charging you 100% on every bottle of point and champagne. you know they like the wine and champagne, right? every bottle and wine and champagne that comes into the united states has eight tax starting monday morning and this was a friday, of 100%.

and that is better than you are doing, okay? he said, "no, no, no, you cannot do that!" >> i've done it. >> and i call you back? he calls me back and we decided to remove the tariff. i did this all day long. but do you think biden has that? i don't think so. >> let me change and ask you a factual question. the federal reserve, you say you don't want interest rates to go higher and you come backwards and forwards -- >> it depends on the tax. >> if you want the power list here of the reserve because this chair runs on until may 2026. would you seek to remove? >> looked, i think it is the greatest job in government. you show up to the office once a month and you say, let's see -- and everybody talks about you like you are a god, oh, what

will he do? this guy is to walk into my office begging and he was fine. >> you talked about removing him once. >> i did because he was keeping -- and i was right. >> you but did that again? >> in fact, he actually dropped too much when i did this. i was threatening to terminate him. there was a question whether or not we could do. there was an article in "the new york times" two and half pages one page that i can do it with lawyers on one page set i couldn't and that was enough for him and he dropped the hell out of the race and dropped too much. he dropped actually too much, okay? here is a story. i think that if you are a very good president with good sense, you should be able to at least talk to him and i didn't say make the decision at all and i've been very successful businmanand ten much better andw people understand how much i

have been doing because they are seen yet much better than the fake news wants to give me credit for. i think i have the right to say as a very good businessman and someone who has used a lot of sense, i think i have the right to say, you know, i think i'm better than he would be. i think i am better than most people would be in that position. i think i have the right to say i think you should go up or down a little bit. i don't think i should be allowed to order it but i think i have the right to put in comments whether interest rate should go up or. >> when you went to the supreme court of joke you came up with a list of people. >> i did -- >> supreme court justices what you did that with the supreme court justices? >> i no longer need to do that and a lot of people said i got elected because of that but i was an unknown quality and known as a business guy but not a political person or leader of a country. people were very worried about, you know, actually worried am i

going to be liberal, if you want to know the truth? and somebody said, would you come up with a list of 20 or 25 justices? and in this case, mostly judges that you would put in in case it were necessary? now, it is amazing because i got three in four years. most people get mad because you put them in long intent to put them in young. and only stupid put old -- you don't put old and because they are there two or three years. i got three. most judges, a lot of president, scott nunn and i got three. i think they have been three great choices, too by the way. by the way, i think they have been great choices. but i got three judges -- [applause] -- you know what they want to do, they want to now put up to 25 justices and to the

supreme court, the radical left. that can't happen. i think i've done a great job putting injustices. 300 judges, that made a tremendous difference in the country. barack obama did not get his judges approved. a lot of them. i ended up with 125 judges before i got there. again, most presidents don't get to put supreme court judge and because they were are nine and they are they are a long time and most a very long time. i got three cowhich is unusual situation and i got three in four years. >> maybe we can change the topic to the federal reserve is u.s. justice department thinking about breaking up the alphabet as google likes to be known now. should google be breaking up? >> i just haven't gotten over something that the justice department did yesterday where

virginia cleaned up its voter rolls and got rid of thousands and thousands of bad votes. in the justice department sued them that they should be allowed to put those bad votes and illegal votes back in and let the people vote. so, i haven't gotten -- i haven't gotten over that. a lot of people see that and i can't believe it. >> but the question is about google, mr. trump. >> google has a lot of power and they are very bad to me, they are very bad to me. in other words, if i have 20 good stories and 20 bad stories and everyone is entitled to that, you only see the 20 bad stories. and i called the head of google the other day and i said, "i'm getting a lot of good stories lately but you don't find them in google." i think google is rigged but like the government. >> so you would break them up in other words. >> i would do something. looked, i give them a lot of

credit. they became such a power and you have to give them credit for that. how they became a power is really the discussion. at the same time, it is a very dangerous thing because we want to have great companies. we don't want china to have these companies. right now, china is a friend of google. china is a very powerful, very smart group of people, i will tell you that. >> the chinese company tiktok, you have initially like to band tiktok and now you like it for some reason with facebook. there is a decision if the president, chinese parent would have to sell it on january 19th. would you force them to do that? >> so, i originally had it all done, and then i said to congress, "your decision. i'm not going to pull any strings about that. your decision. you make it." but i had it all done.

i said, "you make it." they decided not to make it and i didn't care whether or not because a flip of the point. you have first amendment problems and a lot of problems. >> you talked about chinese technology and the need to defend against it, tiktok and the threat people see too many american children and things like that. why do you no longer see it as a business security threat? >> i think it is a threat and frankly, i think everything is a threat. there is nothing that is not a threat that sometimes you have to fight through the threats. like google, i am not a fan of google. they treat me badly. but are you going to destroy the company by doing that? if you did that, are you going to destroy the company? what you can do without breaking it up is to make sure it is more fair. they do treat me very badly. and he told me, "no way, you're the number one person on all of google for stories." which probably makes sense to

me, i hate to say it. most of them are bad stories but these are minor details, right? [laughter] with that because of satan's because the news is fake. that is the one we have to straighten out the press because we have a corrupt press. >> can i ask you -- can i ask you about silicon valley recently and you talk to the tech bosses and the tech people and there seems to be a real fear what you would do with tech as you would handed over to elon musk and say, "you sorted out." >> i have great respect for you on. looked, i saw the rocket ship and then yesterday and go back where it took off to the gantry they called it. i said, "what the hell happened?" i was on the phone talking about probably politics. [laughter] and the television -- and the television is on, and i'm seeing this big thing where the white paper was burned out thousands of miles an hour.

and i see this big massive tube that is ten stories, 20 stories tall come down. i told the person on the phone, "wait a minute, i don't believe it and neither does anybody else here." i said, "wait a minute -- i forgot the guy was on the phone." i want to come down and i watched it come down and come right in between those big levers. and i said -- and it looked to me like it was going to crash because it was coming in hot. then all of a sudden, you see the fire kick end. and i call elon musk, "that is the most incredible thing. can russia did that? in the united states do it quite mark nope. he is only one that can do it. >> you want to put him in charge of the regulation? >> no, cutting. >> cutting wasteful spending. >> every person who comes in and talks about cutting wasteful spending -- because give me an

example what you will do that will get rid of government spending. >> let me give you an example, when i came into government, -- >> an example going forward to. >> this is going forward because it is the same thing. when i sat down, a general came into the office and said, ," it is nice to meet you. will you sign this? >> what is it? a contract for air force one. two boeing 747. i said how much is it? $5.7 million. that is a hell of an expensive plane but there are reasons for that. nope coach i'm not signing. who negotiated? barack obama. not signing it because there is a lot of fat. it's got to have a 3 on it. any way, long story short in some if you have heard this a try got it down because the first week they cut off $400 million. and that with the head of

boeing -- weight, dennis, i said, "denis code you have to have 3, $5.7 million is too much. the most i will take up his $400 million. >> that is not bad for one conversation. nope, i'm not accepting. then he took off 2. two months went by and three months went by and i thought we lost the deal. but we should have a new air force one and we see these planes from saudi arabia in different countries brand-new and i was has 32 years old and it is a very different plane. a much smaller plane and the whole thing. the united states should have the best plane. not for me. so he said, he calls up after like two or three months and i didn't call him, which is the best way to buy something, don't call back. he goes -- in fact when he called me, i wonder what the hell he wants? that is a good way to negotiate. he calls back and says, "sir,

3,999,009,999 and $0.99. 1 penny below $4 billion. so i said, you got yourself a deal. i said, let me ask your question. to get that that deal $5.7 billion and in a period of two months i got $1.7 billion off. that means you are going to make $1.7 billion profit on an airplane. did nobody ever negotiate with you? well, not really, sir. this is the price and they said, "we will take it." and i learned. that was my first experience. but then i learned, everything is like that. so i'm getting -- think of this -- the exact same plane for $1.7 billion last except a better paint job in different

color, red, white, and blue is beautiful. and if you look at every contract and relatively small compared to most, think of it, you save $1.7 billion because you negotiated? every deal is like that here until we are building ships that are cussing to them times more. there is tremendous waste, fraud and abuse in our country and if you could cut it, you would have a surplus without going into growth. but growth, we will grow -- we are going to bring companies and jobs in at levels you have never seen. and you would never be able to do it because you are not a believer in tariffs. the only way you can do it is through the threat of tariffs. it is only way you can do it. >> can we come back to hunting on sat? dealmaking. you look across the room and there are big businesses and

small ones and you had given us a lot of examples of things where you negotiated with big businesses. you give an example when you put the tariffs on china much smaller and you are planning to do, you put them on an apple negotiated a difference for them. >> i did. speak of that is much harder for small business people. isn't the problem with the way you do these kind of deals, you are to deal with the big companies but the small companies get hit by all of these different things and can't find exceptions. >> we had exception role. tim cook is a great example -- >> apple is not a small company. the question is about small businesses and what will you do for them? >> we have a very talented group of people. we had central past and a large group of people. we made exceptions hereto in the case of apple, they needed no exception and you know why?

because at samsung. we came to me and said samsung makes a product very similar to ours, phones and other things, because they are in south korea, they don't have the tariffs that because we are in china we have the tariffs. you happen to be right and will not be able to compete. i will give you a one year break but i want you to start building your factories in this country whether texas or any other place or anywhere in the country. he said, what does that mean? closed but you have everything in china and i want you to move from china back to our country and he started doing that. he built a factory a big one in texas and any bill and another one and this was all a process. it was all happening. but i did give him an exception and the reason was, he said, as soon as he said samsung, how is that product compared to years? it is a good product. you can't compete and have 25% or 30% tariff to compete? i am giving you an exception and i did it for many companies.

>> so the businesses come and see you. >> we do it for small businesses. we do it for small businesses. i will give you an example who i did nobody came to me and it was at a meeting and he kitchen cabinets. and he was pretty big in the business that is all he did was build kitchen cabinets. he said, "sir, china and south korea are building kitchen cabinets for one-third of what i can make" and i said, "what is the quality? does quote they are not as good but good enough. and going out of businesses. and going out of business. i put 25% tariff on kitchen cabinets and i saw the guy two or three days ago and he said, "i am samantha told you about kitchen cabinets. you save my company when you did the tariff, and you save thousands of jobs in my company now doing very well. he started to cry, and this guy

has not cried too much, i will tell you. do you save my company and nobody could have found that. maybe i can ask about something else. business people in this room, business people, capital markets, they like the rule of law and certainty. the chinese and other dictators, they don't like it when things go wrong in america. they like it when things go wrong in america. january 6, 2021, you showed that america's democracy was unrelated. and three weeks until the election will you commit to respecting and encouraging a peaceful transfer of power? you had it peaceful transfer of power. [applause] >> you had a peaceful transfer of power compared to venezuela, but it was by far the worst peaceful transfer of power in a long time. [boos] >> i appreciate that, this is what they like to do.

speak of the mission, president trump, would you respt that decision? when i found out about this interview, this is a man that's not been a trump fan over the years. i had a choice, do i did this and review not? i'm glad i did it. do i do this interview or disappoint a lot of people because i know a lot of people in the audience. but his view was very different than mine. >> i'm asking you -- >> we had peacefully and patriotically, these are people if you think an election is crooked, and i do 100%, if you think -- the date it comes when you can't protest. you take a look at the democrats and they protested 2016 and still protesting. nobody talks about them. if we protest, we want to have honest elections. you think the last election was honest? >> how many times did i go to

court? >> they went to court and the courts all said, "you don't have standing, nobody had standing." it is hard after an election for a judge but nobody said they had standing. but the facts if you take a look, i would show you hundreds of pages of facts. people were angry. people were there. and i tell you what budget they never show that, primary scene in washington was hundreds of thousands, the largest group of people i have ever spoken to before. in it was love and peace are just people went to the capital. a lot of strange things happened there, a lot of strange people being waved into the capital by the police and people screaming "go in!" that never got into trouble. i don't mention names but you know that they are. a lot of change things happen but you had a very peaceful -- i left -- i left the morning it was supposed to leave.

i went to florida. and you had a very peaceful transfer. this was not a passion i will tell you what, those people that did go which was a tiny fractiot to washington. i mean, you are talking about a very dismal amounts, hundreds of thousands of people and i don't know five, six, 700 people went down to the capital. but those people -- that was not -- not one of those people had a gun. nobody was killed except for ashley babbitt. she was killed, she was killed! she was shot in the head by a policeman and we know what he did was horrible. so, i think we should be allowed to disagree on that. and obviously, you see by the reaction in this room, there is a lot of people that a great. >> when other subjects you bring up repeatedly immigration. it is a mode of issue for you but from the business people here, you look at the full

effects of taking a lot of people out of the workforce, removing a lot of people. thought congressional budget office is banking on the fact whether $9 trillion added to the gdp of america over the next ten years by immigrants. you want to stop that crisis. for all the people who run businesses in the audience and just basing on economic thing, are you prepared to say it is going to have slightly smaller economy in exchange for having to immigration controlled? >> simple answer, i want a lot of people to come into our country, but i want them to come in illegally. [cheers and applause] >> that means -- that means you will have today poor. you are talking about deporting 11 million people. that is a lot of people. >> it came out last week at 125,000 people are horrible

criminals at the highest level. but it came out 13,099 were let in during their administration. they tried to stay longer but wrong. they came in over the last three and a half years. 13,000 plus people came and, murderers. they are in jail for murder. some are facing the death penalty and were released into our country. 13,999 people released into our country. we had drug dealers released and we had street gangs released. look at what is happening in aurora, colorado, that milk i don't have to go with aurora anymore. looked what happened last night in times square where rough migrants from all over the place. you know, it is not just south america. we have people coming in from the congo, large numbers from the congo in africa. they came in as of last night and i was speaking to tom homan.

180 countries, people came in, they came from prisons and jails here till they came from mental institutions and insane asylums. they came from the terrorists. we have a large number of terrorists coming in. when i was president, we have the strongest border in the history of the country and i bought hundreds of miles of walls and walls work, by the way. we've had the best numbers but now we have the worst members and here is the problem, we have some of the worst criminals in the world coming in. now, venezuelan, the crime has gone down at levels no one has ever seen before because they have taken their street gangs and they are drug dealers and they have emptied their prisons not fully because i can't get enough buses. they have emptied their prisons. they load up the buses and they drive them into the united states. they are dropping their prisoners into our country. they are is down and they are numbers are crazy how low.

i heard 72% to 74%. they have taken air gains and they are taking criminals off of the street. they have taken their people out of mental institutions, which cost them a fortune. they have dropped them into the united states of america. those people have to be returned. we can't live with thousands of murderers. [cheers and applause] >> the issue i ask you about was the idea if you reduce immigration, every congress will tell you if you have fewer people, there is a smaller economy. >> i like immigration. but they have to come in illegally. [applause] >> lets finish on to co. >> let's make sure, i don't want someone who killed on sadistic crazy nut job. we have to have people that can love our country, that will pay the lots and everything else. you have hundreds of thousands of criminals being dropped and

in venezuela is one country. look at what they have done in aurora. they have taken over apartment complexes. they are like us except they did it with mk whatever the hell they are called, right? they have weapons that are so sophisticated. our military doesn't have them. they are taking over parts of cities in colorado. you have a place called beautiful aurora. take a look at what has happened to springfield, ohio, where they have dropped 30,000 people into a community of 50,000 people, and it is total bet on. the hospitals can't be used anymore by the residents and the schools can't be used by the last year because they don't speak the language. speak of the issue i asked you about many people have shortage. >> we will get people in here rapidly and people that want to

be in here and people that can love our country and won't kill people because they have -- because they don't like the way they look. [applause] these -- some of these killers are among the most evil killers. they will look at you down a beautiful woman, they will kill you. these are seriously sick people. and no, i don't want them in our country. and they are in our country right now. they are in there because kamala harris who is the border czar is in it and competent border czar. >> as you know the, the crime rate is lower back can i finish with two questions but first you just said you don't do well andu own businesses but would you appoint a ceo that was 78? >> yeah, i would it depends on people like biden who is in bad shape, i would not appoint him because he is 81 or 82, four

years older. i know some of the smartest people i know and i know a man made all of his money 80-90 and a failure all his life. he was in the drinks business. >> you didn't bring this up and running joe biden. >> in fact, i use to defend him on his age. i attacked him for his lack of competence. >> i asked you all these questions. >> i think it is important and i know you do too. i know so many people in their 80s that are -- bernie marcus the founder of home depot, you had a conversation with him and he's just as sharp mentally -- just as sharp as ever. he is 95. i can tell you in the 90s, i don't want to get into the 90s but you know what, i know many people in their 80s. i know guys in there it is that won't leave the company-like

family companies where they don't want the kids to take over because they are much more competent than their kids. i know them both, right question mckay would have no? >> on the supreme court, you just said -- >> some of the most competent are in their 80s and throughout history some of the greatest world leaders are in their 80s. but i took to cocognitive test and i aced them both. and i think frankly people regardless should take -- if 50 or 40. i think people should take cognitive test not because of they age but because of something else. now, here's the problem, they say it is unconstitutional, okay question mckay would love to say cognitive test. i don't think she could pass a cognitive test. i don't think she could past a cognitive task. >> president we have gone over many issues on this and i have asked you many questions about things but one thing that i will

talk about is the state of the race. i have a question for you. on election night, which state would you look at first in which state do you think this race will be decided by? >> so they say pennsylvania, i would say most. i think we are doing very well there. i think you look at michigan, too. i am doing very well there. the votes are starting to come in now. so you look at polls that you can also look at the votes that are being cast right now. people will give you a good indication. face as we discussed backstage and based on the votes coming in so far, we are doing well so far and way up in pennsylvania and way up in michigan. we are doing very well in arizona. in fact, someone will pull the plug in arizona and give it up because it looks like we are quite a ways ahead. i think we are doing well. look, this is a party, the

republican party of common sense. forget about conservative, liberal. that say conservative but we are a party where we need borders, we need fair elections. we don't want man playing in women sports. we don't want and still make transgender operations without parental consent. there are so many things. 99.9% is common sense, but it's really common sense. i like to say it and i don't know if anyone said in the past, but i say, "we are really a party of common sense, and we want to have great people in our country." i want to have a lot of people coming so we can have choice and they can have choice. i have a good heart. i have a heart where i want people to be taking care of, but i don't want to take in people where millions of people, 21 million people at the least have come in in the last two and half years unvented, unchecked, we don't know anything about

them. how about this, gavin newsom, the governor california. new scum i call him. [laughter] >> but said those things about rivalry -- >> they don't have to survive like me and go through what i go through. there has never been a president treated like me so i have to fight my own way. [applause] he signed a bill in california two days ago that you don't even have a right to ask a person for voter i.d. if you ask a person for voter i.d., of course you have to show voter i.d. the only reason you wouldn't do it is because they want to cheat cheat. the sale said you cannot. it is against the law to ask a person, may i please see your voter i.d. when they vote? what is our country coming to?

>> you have given us a reason why the country might be going to. thank you very much, mr. trump. >> i appreciate it. [cheers and applause] >> sandra: a few remarkable moments in chicago at the economic club where sitting down for a long lengthy interview, wide-ranging everything from the economy to the state of the race to immigration and beyond, john. were quite a few challenges on his pitch sitting at the economic club on the 25. we will dig on that in a moment. >> john: that was a spirited back-and-forth and fascinating to watch the whole thing because trump certainly put on -- under some tough questions and i'm getting distractions in my ear. tough questions from time to time the pushback on both sides so i thought it was an interesting forum. >> sandra: we have a lot to dig into, a lot of great stuff

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♪ ♪ >> it's companies that we have here in the new companies that will move them because we will have thousands of companies coming into this country. we will grow it like never gone before. we will protect them when they come in because we want to have somebody undercut them. >> sandra: there were quite a few back and forth on his pitch on tariffs. this has been a sticky point for many who have supported his policies, jump a question his tariffs. we will dig into that just a minute and this is "america reports" sandra smith. >> john: build the tariffs amount to a tax and president trump said no, if i put tariffs from a company

overseas, they will move production facilities to the united states and that is a win for everybody. >> john a judge good to be with you and we have been and that most of the hour we will bring n the econ panel, really looking forward to this and glad you guys were able to jump into the chair earlier. there is a lot the american voter could have learned by listening to that. with questioning his economic plans, perhaps you learned a little bit more there. steve coach i will go to you first because fox news poll wind you are outspoken as trump economic supporter and one who advises the president. we have been outspoken the tariffs can have. did he make his case to the american voter there? >> whenever trump is talking about the economy, he is talking his home turf. we want this election to be about pocketbook issues, the ashes that americans talk about at the kitchen table. every poll has shown that americans ru