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this -- "another butler can and will happen again." that's chilling. this is "outnumbered." i'm kayleigh mcenany. journey me today, ainsley earhardt, rachel campbell stuffy, host of the hot new spanish language show called -- this new week. cara frederick, director of the tech policy center at the heritage foundation, and joey jones. in one of the most critical reviews of the secret service to date, the independent panel that was bipartisan, tasked with investigating the first attempted assassination attempt against president donald trump, lambasted the secret service for failing to properly secure the rally in butler. it found a long list of failures, numerous mistakes before and during the rally. the review also found a deep and systemic flaws in the agency and called for a total and complete
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overhaul. out sandra huff with details on the stunning new report. speak of this review probably couldn't be more critical of. new leadership at the secret service, and refocusing its core protective mission. this review panel was made up of four members, all former law enforcement. it highlighted six specific failures related to the assassination attempt. lack of personnel. the secret service. a failure to encounter crooks even though they had been spotted 90 minutes before shots were fired. failure to inform detailed leadership, that would be trumps detail, and failure of the countered unmanned error system -- crooks flying a drone before the event even started. the events pointed out my deeper concerns with the secret service as its run including corrosive cultural attitudes regarding resourcing and doing more with less, a troubling lack of
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thinking by secret service personnel both before come on, and after this including -- opposed to certain protect he is. the secret service falls under the department of homeland security. the secretary alejandro mayorkas issued a statement today, writing "we fully consider the panel's recommendations and are taking the actions needed to advance the secret service's protection mission." the acting director of the secret service, ronald rowe, weighed in on a play he is saying is being worked on. "retaining the agency's personnel, modernizing our technology, building a training plan that's sustainable now and into the future. even with all of its criticisms, this made a point to -- the bravery and selflessness by secret service agents year round. >> thank you. this report was stunning. i want to highlight the words throughout, which are not words you want to describe the entity
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in charge of protecting the president of the united states. easy to bureaucratic, complacent static corrosive cultural attitude, lack of critical thinking and a lack of rigor. you don't want those words describing the secret service. speak of these are the ones that protect the president of the united states. we don't want anything to happen to kamala like this, donald trump like this. they are saying if there is not reform, it will happen again. it will happen. they know this. there so many unanswered questions, lies we've often told. for instance, butler, they could put snipers on the roof. the roof has a bunch of snipers on it. wife nate knew they were there did they send donald trump on the stage to speak. it would've spared two people from being shot, a man from dying. the golf course, the guy got 13o donald trump. they said the plan works. that's not a working plan.
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the guy got too close, why wasn't there a sweet. how many hours was he is therefore? and then the cell phones, the guy at the golf course. he had six cell phones. if they are saying without reform, it's going to happen again. we need reform. >> those are all facts and are and eye-opening. something that was eye-opening to me is you would think if you were on the head of secret service, on the ground, and president trump came a centimeter from dying, probably less, you would be self reflective, but no, not the secret service agents were there were many heroic ones that day. listen to this line. "the panel has observed that many of the secret service personnel involved in the july 13th events to appear to have done little in the way of self-reflection in terms of identifying areas of missteps, omissions, opportunities for improvements. were heroes on the ground that
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day, but failures and there is no self-reflection? >> it's scary. first of all, nobody feels reassured that mallorca 's --they are on it, he let in rapists, killers. that's who's in charge of the secret service. i didn't understand the chain of command and now feel worse about everything. you gave the list of the things they came up with. i want to add to that. lack of transparency. we deserve to know. you mentioned the phones. you are right. how was it they can't crack open these phones but they cracked open every phone of the 1600 walking around the capital? didn't take shots at the president. this guy get but -- this guy did. -- who is matthew cook's? who are they? i want to know more about them.
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i have seen zero curiosity from our media. >> very little curiosity. joey, there's a protocol. secret service protection at the highest level. it's a different level of protection. they become the nominee. they get a higher level of protection. what's unique is donald trump was a former president. not only that, we learned in the report something we already knew. significant intelligence with a long-range threat against a long stage actor former president trump. we think that was to which they would refer. you know he is a former president, you know that iran wants to kill this guy because he took them out, and you don't give them more protection? >> when you read this report which i have not read the whole things, i've read excerpts like many of us have. what brought me in is when they used the word of bureaucracy as a hurdle or a problem. when we hear that we are like "the government is involved,"
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but this is what it means. what it means is there is a certain rap sheet or a chec checklist. there is a certain checklist available for nominees. there may be a certain checklist for those. because president trump was not yet a nominee, looking back to the history of it. because he wasn't through the convention and nominee, that list was only so long and they didn't use their imagination or what i would say is common sense to say he's not yet the nominee by fact, but he is the presumptive nominee and has a credible threat against his life so that should make the assets longer, or the notion of how you carry yourself or go in a little bit different. what i will tell you is someone who has trained with the secret service and colleagues who have done more. that is the bravery.
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the ability. i think they do have a long ways to go. real quick, a lot of field agents that came through during covid did not have the experience of those 2020 -- the water down election. all the way back to this original thing that's hurt us in so many ways has hurt us here. >> i heard kids didn't have to go through the proper driver's license procedures, but the secret service -- >> it's a zero fail mission. one thing i was thrilled to see, and this was a bipartisan group that looked into this, a highly credentialed national security and dhs folks. they called for new leadership. i have been pointing out that kimberly cheatle, who failed at her job, her deputy got a promotion, ronald araujo, to acting director. how does the deputy get ready to leave the agency? should have gone. needs to be a total and complete overhaul. >> anyone who has worked in the government for as long as you did, i have, or have been around it for a long time knows that
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failing up is par for the course. this is what happens in the government. there is a pervasive inertia. people know their jobs are secure, so they don't have -- they are not held to account. i think this is the big problem. president trump has proposed policies to say if you have worked in the industry like he has, you have to be held accountable. sometimes, that means you've got to go, exactly like you said. no more of the government disseminating responsibility to the point where nobody can be held to account. people's heads should roll. she was allowed to resign before she was fired. i think change is needed, as you said, and it has to be a policy shift. we have to replicate industry in this guard. it's more effective. just look at elon musk and what he's able to do. more effective when people are held accountable for their decisions and failures. >> so well said. why didn't president biden and vice president harris demanded a change? they are in charge. at the end of the day, you are in charge of the secret service.
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>> israeli forces are investigating whether the new leader of hamas, a vicious terrorist was killed during a recent operation in gaza. yahya sinwar, the evil man you are looking at, is a hamas figure still at large and is considered the mastermind of the vicious october 7th attack that literally killed infants. it was the deadliest day for
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jews since the holocaust. if they are confirmed dead, it could be the biggest game changer in israel's war on hamas. this comes after the killing of hezbollah's leader as well. live in israel with more on this developing story. >> good afternoon. awaiting final confirmation from israeli officials about the death of hamas leader yahya sinwar. i've had has conversations with many israeli sources. we said we have to wait here, given how sensitive this high-level target is. once the israelis have confirmed that he was killed, this will be a turning point in the conflict, and it will be the final mastermind taken out by the israelis for the october 7th massacre. remember, israel has taken out another leader in an explosion into ron, killed another in an air strike in gaza. sinwar, it believes, it appears -- was killed once
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confirmed -- in a tank shelling in southern gaza. this was not a targeted operation, not a joint operation with israeli intelligence, but according to an initial reports, it was in operation with israeli soldiers who were on patrol. surprising and significant of elements, but to give you a sense of how high-level this target was, over the past year, we have talked with a number of israeli officials including many times in person with israel's defense minister. in his office when i would interview him, he would point to a chart on the wall. it was a chart of targets. at the very top of that chart was a photo of yahya sinwar's. everyone below him that the israelis had taken out, he would use a sharpie and put a x over their face. he said "we will hunt down sinwar." never questioned in the mind of the israeli defense minister that he would be killed. it was a matter of when, not if. as we look forward, the big question now is what does this mean for the israeli hostages who are still being held inside of gaza?
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they were taken on october 7th. 101 of them are still in gaza. -- the hostages families form commends the security forces. the men and women and children -- the elderly women and children being held in by gaza. the strategic moment to find a way to get the remaining hostages out of gaza. they understand time is running out, they know hamas is -- is operating on the ground across the strip. the war in the north continues. the potential israeli operation against iran on the horizon. a lot of moving parts here. the latest information that we have, israeli officials are working to confirm that they did indeed kill the leader of hamas. we expect that to confirmation
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at any moment. back to you. >> keep us updated. look, i want to do a few things. first, our latest reporting that you heard, the idf has said they are looking at dental records. according to a senior official, apparently there was a note passed during a meeting to the secretary of defense that he could likely be dead, sinwar, who you are looking at. awaiting final confirmation. if he was killed, it was somewhere near rafa. i want to go back in history and play what president biden said about israel's excursion into rafa. >> that if they go into rafa, which they haven't yet, but if they go into rafa, i'm not supplying the weapons that have been used historically to deal with rafa, deal with the cities, deal with that problem. >> if this is confirmed, that is a diplomatic threat against our strongest ally who very well might have neutralized a tear
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were wrist. >> it's wild to me that joe biden would say something like that, knowing that there are americans still held in custody in gaza right now. a huge issue. when you look at israel, this is what a nation acting in its own self interest looks like. i say god bless 'em, more power to them. if he were killed, sinwar, in an artillery barrage, that's what we would have called a target of opportunity. you didn't have to mobilize special operations units to do pinpoint, either kinetic strikes or raids. that speaks to the prodigious excellence of not only their intelligence operations, which according to trey's reporting we don't know if this is a coordinated intelligence operation. the effects -- so good. i worked with the navy seals for a long time, and the army equivalent of one of those commands deployed three times to afghanistan. as joey knows, working with those guys. i have talked to them.
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they do a lot of exercises with the israelis and are like "we have never seen anything like this. they are so good at their jobs." would urge them to continue to act in their self interest. american national security officials should probably take note and follow suit. >> september 24th, president biden delivered a message at the united nations to israel and the wider world. >> has below, unprovoked, during the october 7th attack, launching rockets in israel. almost a year later, on each side of the israeli lebanon border -- too many remain displaced. full-scale war is not in anyone's interest. even a situation that has escalated. the diplomatic solution is still possible. >> around that same time, by and called for a cease-fire, but four days later, idf killed hezbollah's leader, and now it looks like within a month, they might have killed hamas' leader. israel is doing what they have to do to protect themselves and
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protecting the global free world. >> to your points, working in and around special operators in the united states military. some that i know looking in awe of how israel is conducting this operation, if we had the rules of engagement the idf and the mossad have, we probably would have been more successful. this is what fighting to win at the end of war, and not fighting to make it more palatable, does. does it justify the amount of innocent palestinians that are dead? i understand that conversation. my personal opinion is those people were killed by hamas, not by israel. they were killed by hamas' cowardice in their attacks and israel's need, their ability to respond to preserve their own life. i think what's abo this is when i heard this, my immediate thought was it's an air strike, they took out an apartment building and killed some terrorists when they did. now we are learning -- the word that trey used, i think he said
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tank shelling. the interesting thing about tanks using direct fire is you are looking at your enemy and can shoot right at them or you can use indirect fire where you are lobbing it further. either way, this is ground to ground assault which means they are closing in on and had an opportunity to take out what was probably something that was shooting at them. it shows you that without being in there, this opportunity isn't there probably, and the opportunity to kill just terrorists and not a lot of civilians. every time biden says "don't go to that part of gaza because it can be deadly," that's how you make it less deadly for civilians so you can get closer to the enemy, close in. might not have been an intelligence operation but intelligence led to the opportunity. >> richie torres is a democratic congressman. he posted a powerful image, a newspaper saying "hitler is dead," the iconic image, and then one about sinwar. we don't know if he is dead but richie torres made the point that that was the deadliest day
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for jews, october 7th, since the holocaust, and it is monumental. >> this is pure evil, anyone who can do this to other human beings, babies, and two rape women and chop off hands of a child while they are eating with their parents, and sitting down at the family after they killed the whole family, after they've tortured them. it's something you can't wrap your head around. if this guy is dead -- he is the mastermind. they have killed hamas' number one leader in around. that killed five of the hamas leaders. the leader of hezbollah for 32 years, they injured all of those soldiers with the pager attacks. israel is winning. israel is making history. israel needs our support. this administration is sitting on the sidelines. not even 24 hours ago, they threatened to cut off the weapons for israel if they didn't provide aid for gaza. >> i think israel should look out for the best interests. our country should look out for
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its best interests as well. as a mom sitting here with sons who are of age to go to war, i just want peace. we should be looking at diplomatic solutions so this does not escalate. i don't think it's in the interest of this country for this war to escalate and involve our children. i happily am at peace on the couch. >> as we await this confirmation, we want to keep in mind the 101 hostages. that would include this 1-year-old and his brother as well. we pray for their safe return. more "outnumbered" in just a momentame . ears. when i have customers come in and ask for something for memory, i recommend prevagen. number one, because it's safe and effective. does not require a prescription. and i've been taking it quite a while myself and i know it works. and i love it when the customers come back in and tell me, "david, that really works so good for me." makes my day.
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>> i will follow the law. at the la donald trump followed. you are probably familiar with -- now it is a public report that under donald trump's administration, these surgeries were available to on a medical necessity basis to people in the federal prison system. i think frankly, that add from the trump campaign is like throwing stones when you're living in a glass house. >> the trump aide says he never advocated for that prison policy. no transitions happen during his admission ration. >> -- the administration. >> it is stunning that we are less than three weeks from an election -- dental competence, along with so many other questions. >> medical necessity for -- it is just unbelievable.
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it's funny. she wants to be the executive. what you get from her is she doesn't want to make decisions. she's very indecisive. i think in this interview, what you see is somebody who skated through life cliffsnotes is what i get from her. >> jocelyn and dari, a sweet girl walking to a convenience store and lost her life to an illegal immigrant, her death was directly attributable to public policy. if the laws had been different and the killer did not cross the border during biden-harris, she'd still be alive. it's where you get an opportunity to confront your leader but bret baier gave her mom that opportunity. >> i believe the biden-harris open border policies are responsible for the death of my daughter. >> that's the early days. do you oh them an apology? >> i will tell you that i am sorry for her loss. i'm so sorry for her loss.
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sincerely. let's talk about what is happening right now with an individual who does not want to participate in solutions. let's talk about that as well. >> let's talk about that. their name is kamala harris. on day one, they did away with -- that would have meant if you are an asylum seeker you have to remain in mexico. you stay down there. not allowed in our country. the floodgates open appeared she also did away with the wall. no more building the wall. the materials are resting here she also said the border was secure. tell that to lincoln riley or jocelyn or rachel's mom. we interviewed rachel's mom. she blames this administration. "all these policies allowed individuals to come in --" she is allowing trump -- blaming trump for not passing aboard a bill this year? she has been in office for three and a half years. >> coming through that
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sound bite -- joey come another question she was asked was about biden's mental competence, what she knew and when. >> when did you first notice that president biden's mental faculties appear diminished? >> joe biden, i have watched from the oval office to the situation room. he has the judgment and the experience to do exactly what he has done, making important decisions on behalf of the american people. speak about -- >> joe biden is not on the ballot. speak about the problem is the american people have watched and have a different conclusion. >> in the last week, biden is looking more presidential than a lost time. going down to florida come out looking at the hurricane response is the most presidential thing he's done in the last few years. she's never done anything like it. i tell you this. fox news needs to take a victory lap. i say it as a contributor, not an employee, someone who gets to give opinions.
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of donald trump were in that seat, bret baier would have asked just as pointed questions and as many follow-ups. back to the first interview she and walz did together, the biggest complaint is some of the questions were okay but there were no follow-ups. explained that. at the new here, and we might talk about this later in the segment, how they squeeze the time on both ends. doing that that hoping rather than having follow-ups on one issue. give them a chance for the campaign talking point. i watch that in all of his ability to stick with an issue like the border which lasted the first part of the interview because it matters and because no answer is not an answer. i'm not an answer isn't an answer. that's one of them. not quite as much of an issue of the border, the economy and other things, but the idea that joe biden is not running for president for a reason, and the reason is not because she was a better choice or leader. it's because nobody was going to spend money on him. everybody who was says he's not
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with it anymore. that is an answer. >> just to compare, as someone who was on sean's press team, bret baier said there were like four people wrapping, she showed up late. i have the apathetic spirits with trump. he would show up on time and "trump, we want to go in our? we can't, you have a national security meeting." he wanted to continue with the most hostile, adversarial, unfair -- unlike bret baier who asks fair questions -- unfair journalists. >> when you are having these interviews, when you are going on the debate stage as a presidential candidate, you are trying to make your case to the american people as to why you belong in the oval office. what we saw in that interview was kamala harris effectively trying to get it over with, trying to get that talking point, that sound bite, but really just get through the next 19 days without giving any dense, substantive policy oriented answers. i thought dana perino said it best when she was like "her answers were thin peer she has
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nothing to say other than orange man bad," and that is not enough to put you in the oval office. >> one man thinks it's enough. let's roll him. we have ten seconds for this. >> instead of getting to debate trump again, she got to debate bret baier. a lot of us will come away saying "she is willing to do that. that's a sign of toughness and strength." >> i will leave you with that and let the american people decide. rachel campos duffy, you have a great news show. i want you to tell us about it. >> at so when i was news show. we will do news from the united states, politics, but also stuff from latin america and the entire hemisphere. our policies are affecting the entire hemisphere. culture, sports. we are going to have sports. we want you to go to this website, the best place to catch the show. as i've been telling everybody in the fox audience and my cohosts, if you don't speak
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spanish, it's okay. it's a great way to learn. [laughter] >> you are the perfect host of it. the website. everyone tune in. 4:00 p.m. every day. republican vice presidential nominee j.d. vance giving remarks about the economy at a campaign event in the hot battleground state of pennsylvania. >> their millions in the united states of america who don't have the legal right to be here. here's the thing: kamala harris and her friends in the media will say that somehow, donald trump doesn't support social security and medicare. donald trump is fighting to protect social security and medicare every day. i will tell you what is going to bankrupt social security and medicare.
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that is kamala harris' plan to give social security and medicare to illegal aliens who have no right to be here in the first place. while kamala harris wants to roll out the red carpet for illegal aliens and give them medicare and social security, the message of donald trump to people in this country illegally is simple: pack your bags. in the four months, you are going back home. [cheers and applause] but, it's not just that i disagree with kamala harris on the policy of immigration. you know what gets me going is where kamala harris attacks the citizens of her own country as racist for -- open up the southern border. i think it's one of the most disgraceful things.
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i think our message to kamala harris ought to be si simple: stop trying to censor us for criticizing your government. stop calling us racist for saying we got to close down that southern border. and stop accusing us of being bad people because we have the audacity to say to kamala harris that she ought to do her damn job. she needs to look in the mirror and stop attacking the citizens of her own country. i think that has led to the divisiveness in our country. donald trump, whether we agree or disagree, whether you vote for us in 2024, we are rooting for you because -- fellow citizens and we will fight for your right to speak your mind. our founders, the genius of the first amendment is not just that it protects everybody's rights: the genius of the first amendment is that when we debate our ideas rather than censor one another, we can come
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to the table all, this agreement still share a meal with one another afterwards. we ought to remember that while kamala harris and tim walz talk a big game about bringing our country together, you do not bring our fellow citizens together by trying to silence them. you bring our fellow citizens together by talking with them and inviting conversation about how we are going to make this country better and fix our problem. that's what donald trump and i promise you and everybody who was watching. we may not always agree with one another but will fight for your right to speak your mind. this is america and we get to say whatever the hell we want to. [cheers and applause] [crowd chanting "usa"]
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thank you all. sorry. i got a little fired up there. i want to say one more thing and then we will take a few questions from reporters. you are welcome to stay and watch me as i answer these questions, but i want to remind you that is much as the energy is really good in pennsylvania, and we've got a lot of good energy in pennsylvania -- i think we will win this state, and i think -- i think -- [cheers and applause] by the way, we are not just winning pennsylvania just for president trump and j.d. vance: we are winning pennsylvania for dave mccormick who's running for senate. support him. and for a lot of our great congressional candidates. and we got great state
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candidates running too but we aren't going to do it once we get out there and vote. >> fox news alert: reuters is reporting israel's foreign minister has confirmed the death of hamas leader yahya sinwar, who was responsible, the mastermind between the vicious october 7th attack. that was the deadliest attack on jews since the holocaust. reuters is reporting that -- analyzing his dental records that he is dead. trey yingst in haifa, israel, with more. >> according to reports, the leader of hamas, yahya sinwar, is dead. we cannot independent we confirm this. there are two things ongoing at the moment. israeli officials are using dental records and dna to try to match yahya sinwar's dna to dna the israelis have in their file.
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the dental records match, but we are waiting until the dna test comes back, given how high-profile this figure is. according to reports, sinwar is dead. this follows on israeli operation in southern gaza today, reportedly in the city of rafa, gaza's third-largest city that sits next to the egyptian border. this was not a planned intelligence operation according to officials, but rather a ground patrol that intercepted movement in southern gaza. israeli forces reportedly fired on that movement. among the cell of hamas militants was the leader. a man who has been at the top of the israeli target list since october 7th. he's 1 of 3 masterminds behind the massacre. men killed in an israeli air strike earlier this year, and a man who was killed in an explosion in the iranian capital over the summer.
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the three masterminds. sinwar so that dominic spent 22 years in an israeli prison, released in 2011 as part of his prisoner swap deal. they were exchange for more than 1,000 palestinian prisoners. when sinwar went back to gaza, he was appointed to a defense minister level position among hamas' brigades, the military wing of hamas, and later took over as the leader of hamas inside gaza. the last time i saw sinwar was 2021. the month was may. he was giving a rally where an infamous photo of him was taken, palestinian child who -- these brigades. devoted his life to killing israelis, despite the fact that the israelis saved his life during brain surgery on him when he was still in prison. following the october 7th massacre, he had been hiding in the toll network beneath gaza. some of the israeli hostages who
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were released as part of the november cease-fire deal in 2023 reported meeting him in the tunnels beneath gaza city. this is significant news and an indication that the israelis will continue to pick off the remaining hamas leaders that still exist within gaza. they have destroyed battalions within the gaza tripped all next trip, but what does it mean for the israeli hostages to make about half of them are estimated to be alive. israeli sources are texting, talking about this news that is taking place. we expect to hear from israel's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, later tonight israel time. the israelis according to this source are in communication with their american counterparts to discuss the operation that took place today. according to our reporting, this was not a planned operation but rather one that took place after the movement was identified inside the gaza strip. the latest information we have attributable to reports. we are waiting for dna evidence,
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is that the leader of hamas is dead. >> i want to step back a moment and have you put this inr viewe. september 28th, you have ahead of has below who was taken out. if this is true today, we are talking a span of three weeks. heads of arabian proxies. what message does this send to iran? >> a message that the israelis are not afraid to take out the leadership of arabian proxies, and behind the scenes, a message they are not afraid to target top officials. this comes at a delicate time in the region, a time of the israelis are planning a counterattack following a ballistic missile attack earlier this month against their country. it also comes as israeli forces are still operating on the around inside gaza and southern lebanon. i want to take you back to something we discussed earlier. israel's defense minister has a
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chart in his office. on that chart, it has the hamas leadership and the hezbollah leadership. at the top of that hamas chart was yahya sinwar. his photo was there and did not have a x across it like many of the lower-level leaders of hamas. they are now being crossed off. the sent a message to the iranian regime which has funded these organizations, proxy groups not just in gaza but lebanon and places like yemen, arak, and syria, that the israelis are going to continue operating until they take out the leadership, and they greatly reduce the cape abilities of these organizations. i want to redo the statement we are getting in just now from israel's foreign minister. he says that the master murderer, yahya sinwar, who is responsible for the massacre and atrocities of october 7th, was killed today by idf soldiers. this is confirmation from a top israeli officials that yahya sinwar is dead. the israelis have been waiting for more than a year to get this
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news. they know that sinwar was one of the people who planned that brutal assault on october 7th when hamas' brigades along with gunmen from across the gaza strip crossed into southern israel on that dark day, slaughtering people in their homes, taking over israeli military bases. then dragging 250 hostages into the gaza strip. it's not just them, it is all of the other leaders that have been taken out. raised questions about how the organization will negotiate moving forward. what this means for the conversations that were reportedly still taking place. this is a major victory for the israelis on the battlefield. they have taken up the leadership of this organization that they have been at war with over the past more than one year. they are sending a message to around that they will continue to operate and we can ask proxies -- to operate and weaken its proxies across the middle east. gives israel flexibility. as they take out the leadership
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of these organizations across the leadership and greatly reduce the rocket and missile launching capabilities of noxious groups like hamas and islamic jihad and gaza, but also has below in southern lebanon about 17 miles behind me, this allows the israelis to strike around when they decide to do so and less concerned about the possibility that proxies will be used to target israeli population centers. they will have two of course worry about the ballistic missile threat from iran. that's part of the reason why the american missile defense system, a lockheed marketing system, arrived in israel this week along with american forces to defend against such an attac. what they are facing today is different from what they were facing a year ago. israel faced one of the most significant security failures in the country's history. today, they can report, according to top officials, that the leader of hamas, yahya sinwar, is dead. the other mastermind behind the october 7th massacre is dead. and other leader is dead, two.
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many of the officials who were conducting these ground operations against israel have been taken out. there's real questions about the hostages, but you can expect israeli leadership -- and i just want to confirm this now because the source we have been waiting on, and this is all real time reporting so if i can just read this. this source says "confirmed, they are releasing --" releasing a statement shortly. so this confirmed message means that the israelis, as of right now, have confirmed with both dental records and dna evidence that yahya sinwar is dead. we have been waiting for hours to report this news to you because we always want to be right before we are first. as we reported before when there was a target of operation against the leader of hezbollah, fox news right away because our sources were on the phone. we got the information and could confirm it to. this was a difference. this was not expected. it was a surprise to the entire
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echelon and the public in israel. as we can report, yahya sinwar has been killed inside gaza by israeli forces. his body is in israel after being tested to match the dna to the mastermind behind the october 7th massacre. >> this is significant geopolitically, for israel, and significant for the free world. for our viewers awareness, i want to point out the way you are looking at -- those are protests happening in tel aviv. just to emphasize what you said at this hour as we near the 1:00 p.m. eastern time hour on the east coast of the united states, sinwar, who is responsible for the death of infant children, the hostagetaking of american citizens, the death of american citizens, right now we can confirm he is dead with dental records and dna. >> yes. fox news can confirm that the leader of hamas, yahya sinwar, is dead to. one of the masterminds behind the october 7th massacre, a man who devoted his life to fighting
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israel. he spent 22 years in an israeli prison. he was released as part of the 2011 prisoner exchange. he was able to go back into gaza, take the position of a defense minister among hamas' brigades and lead hamas inside gaza. the images on your screen are important to talk about as we cover this story. it's the families of the hostages that remain inside the gaza strip. they are urging the israeli leadership to use this moment to reach some sort of agreement and get the remaining hostages out of gaza. because -- as we talk here, and we should dive into this for a moment. we have been covering this story i think for 374 days now. from the beginning of this coverage, we have focused on the families of the hostages and of the hostages that are still being held inside of gaza. we have sat down with those
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released as part of the november cease-fire deal. some of the hostages had actually met yahya sinwar in the tunnels beneath gaza. one conversation -- still waiting for october 8th to begin. the israeli public cannot move forward. they have been waiting not just for the leadership of hamas to be taken out, but arguably more importantly for their fellow citizens to return home. there are two major stories we are covering in parallel. that's the death of yahya sinwar, leader of hamas, another question of what will happen to the remaining hostages. as you can see on your screen in tel aviv, israel's second largest city, a city of around 300,000 people. images in the streets pick him to images for the first time. these people are next to israel's ministry of defense, an area where they have gathered each and every week to demand an
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agreement to bring their loved ones home. they are worried that as the time is running out for these hostages, that if an agreement is reached to get the remaining life hostages out of gaza, more funerals will have to take place in this country as the work continues. this is a turning point in the conflict. this is a moment for israeli leadership to find a path forward to get the remaining hostages out of gaza. he comes as israeli forces are still operating on the ground inside of gaza. they targeted this part of gaza in recent weeks, still forces operating on the ground into has below. the country is preparing for counterattack against iran. defense across the country of marin on high alert, fearing attacks -- in places like yemen, or these iraqi she militias. there certainly could be some sort of response from the
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iranian regime through its proxies in response to the killing of yahya sinwar, the leader of hamas. >> you are right about the hostages. i think about this person who is one year old, and their brother. people who i follow every day. the release of those babies. i can imagine, really big mo moment. as we think beyond this moment, apparently the individual -- taking over hamas is in qatar, this individual. we think forward to the future of hamas. they are running out of options for people to lead this organization. >> we are talking about this person who is someone who previously worked in the political bureau of hamas. why the killing of yahya sinwar
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was so significant is because they lead the military wing of hamas previously before taking over for all of gaza. he was able to put fighters on the ground who would commit these ambushes against israeli forces to train them to conduct that massacre. many of the remaining hamas leadership that is still alive, we hear from them sometimes, sources developed inside of gaza. we ask them about the hostages and current situation end. political leaders of hamas who don't have the same power. >> thank you very much for that significant reporting. spring and retired with ten colonel darren gob, an army veteran, black hawk helicopter pilot. i wanted to speak with you. i wanted to go back down memory lane and talk about our administration in the united states and play a sound bite of the constant cry that we have heard from president biden and vice president harris as to what they would like israel to do.
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>> they go into rough, i'm not supplying the weapons. >> we are not giving up on a cease-fire. >> cease-fire. >> cease-fire. >> cease-fire. >> cease-fire deal done. >> they wanted a cease-fire and instead israel got the head of has below and the head of hamas. >> exactly. think what we're seeing here is the message that israel's strategy is working and it's time for us to get behind them 100% instead of 50%. they have taken hamas from an organized military wing and -- probably won't last much longer either. no you have an isolated around and the potentially more dangerous middle east. for now, a big deal with the elimination of all of this leadership across organizations. israel is showing us how this is
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done right. >> lieutenant colonel, of course at the head of this network is around. they've seen hezbollah taken out and hamas taken out, the leaders, and there have been warnings about threats to leaders in iran. i want you to contrast for me the trump era where the theft of -- happened. -- where the death of this leader happened to. we are seeing the calls for cease-fire and the threats for israel sure they have gone into rough, which is what we are hearing from biden-harris. >> and ultimately what this comes down to is with friends like these in who needs enemies sometimes. it's the true danger. only halfway. look across the world. thai one is watching closely this relationship with israel. go back to the day. what to the world look like
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them? that message is largely because of new weakness and frankly what happened in afghanistan. the world took action against that as well. studying what israel is doing. if iran is not careful, they will find themselves more and more isolated. that's when they can get more. >> a few moments, but we are looking at protests in tel aviv. you have a heart for these families, the families of hostages who wonder what this means for the loved ones and wonder what a hamas cell will do one a day when there hamas leader is taken out. your thoughts as we watch this. >> it's or the celebration. waited for a long time for this. i think most of us would like to be able to be there.
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we love to see that hamas and the terror organizations get reduced for study determination and leadership for someone like benjamin netanyahu. this proves once again that leadership matters. israel has it. the question is do we? >> lieutenant colonel, thank you. it's been a significant day on "outnumbered," as we were able to confirm the death of the leader hamas, yahya sinwar, which comes on october 17th a few weeks after the death of the leader of has below. here on the noon hour of "outnumbered." we will keep you updated on the breaking news but for now we'll toss it over to "america reports." >> outstanding develop in the top of the hour as we watch live in the middle east. israel says hamas' top commander has been killed by idf for
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