of government and plow those savings back into tax cuts for the american people in the business community. you don't get a better result by increasing their corporate tax rate. you don't get a better result by increasing -- >> spending is not core. spending is the core. got it. governor, a real honor to have you. it is the foundation. more that both parties should pay attention. it is happening in iowa. governor kim reynolds. he's gone crazy. but that is important, folks. we all have to pay for this government. the larger that debt grows, the more costly against. we will explore that this weekend. tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. as we pursue the math. here now, "the five." ♪ ♪ >> it is friday. hello, everyone. i am sandra smith along with

judge jeanine pirro, harold ford jr., charlie hurt, and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ all right. vice president kamala harris taking heat out there she a no-show at the al smith dinner. a stable for more than 60 years. her arrival former president donald trump was more happy to headline and pulling no punches with these jokes. >> these days, it is really a pleasure anywhere in new york without a subpoena for my appearance. if you really wanted vice president harris to accept your invitation, you should have told her that the funds were going to bail out the looters and rioters in minneapolis, and she would have been here guaranteed. considering how woke your party has become, if kamala loses, you

still have a chance to be, the first woman president. i'm not worried about them at all but because their wives and their wives lovers are all voting for me. but i don't think kamala has given up yet. instead of attending tonight, she is in michigan receiving communion from gretchen whitmer. >> vp harris becoming the first presidential nominee to skip the al smith dinner since 1984. harris instead chose to send this strange prerecorded video featuring former "snl" star molly shannon. >> the al smith dinner provides a rare opportunity to set aside partisanship. what's going on? it was that? >> i am catholic. tonight is one of the biggest debtors next to the last supper. >> is an important tradition that i'm proud to be a part of. is there anything that you think maybe i shouldn't bring up tonight?

>> you shall not bear false witness to your neighbor. >> indeed. >> some folks in the media are not happy with former president trump speech. >> last night, his appearance at the al smith dinner was ridiculous, offensive and way off the mark. >> i thought donald trump misread the room. i thought he was undisciplined and mostly unfunny. he missed the mark and it was cringeworthy and unnecessarily nasty. the one nasty in his comments and frankly not very funny. >> is this catholic church event normalizing a guy who is already broken 11 of the ten commandments? >> and got darker and darker where some of his supporters not sure founded all that funny. >> i could not wait to sit down with you tonight and ask you what you thought about those jokes and how they went over it. >> i think it is hilarious how they all sound exactly the same.

it is incredible. it is like you would think they get the talking points from one person. donald trump gave harris the last rites. my favorite part -- it is like bruce wayne. he's got the penguin to his lower left elbow just sitting nearby and he is -- all over the penguin. chuck schumer was in a weird self-made prison. how do you engage with a human you call hilter. they were there and got chummy. chuck schumer doesn't believe trump was a nazi. all this rhetoric is a political show. their willingness to foment division across a country to get pete to demonize trump supporters is a lie. the division is never ever left versus right where the division is supposed to be left versus

right. when it is really the elitist against everyone else. they want you to believe that it is left versus right. i love the kamala video, because she says it is so important to come together and reach across and divide at events like these. events she turned it down. she didn't come across or reach across the aisle. she says, we need to do this, and then she does the opposite. i believe in women's rights. she will push for the six changes for a guy that killed a woman. the best part was the meltdown over the speech. trump said someone that fox helped write the jokes. and these left-wing housebound auditors on social media put on their reporter caps. thought they had a watergate scandal they were breaking. it is absolutely amazing. look at this.

their whole career is based on moments of another person's actual career while we have fun, they wet their couches. at some point, you should want to revisit the directory of your life if your dopamine is dependent on what you think other people have done. it is really sad. it was a good night for everybody. >> for kamala harris, was it a missed opportunity? >> i probably would have gone. this dinner if i work her or running for president, this dinner is one that raises money for catholic charities and has been a success for many, many years. for those of us who have been to the dinner, those of us in politics, it's one of those that invites back in and ushers back in some good humor and cheer and politics especially the time when things have gotten angry and partisan. i'm not just talking about the cycle. it is always a little heated. we look forward to have the candidates having fun ripping one another.

i listen to president trump and found some of it funny. i think it was making the point in one of the intro sets, he is not a partisan guy. i thought his take on it was interesting. that being said, i always look at these things to .5 weeks out and wonder, when candidates are presenting publicly, what are they trying to do? how do they incorporate this into their closing strategy? as i listened to both candidates, less and less harris over the last few days. not opened up enough. she gave as good as she got with her bret baier interview. he was unbelievable the way he went about doing that. she is stepping outside of her comfort zone. one of the ironies that she is normally the one that does traditional events and trump didn't. trump did this al smith dinner, and she would not do it. finally, i'm gonna be interested in seeing president trump.

watching this morning on "fox & friends" talking about governor healey campaigning with her and how that might be helpful. then he said some things that were not necessarily flattering about governor healey. i will be curious to see how that patches up. the two of them together is a formidable thing for president trump's campaign that would be helpful. vice president harris needs to continue get out there doing the unconventional press introducing herself to a lot of voters. >> and was entertaining. you were there. >> i was there. donald trump was hysterical. he was an entertainer. he was funny. the audience receives him very well. i don't know what he is talking about. and the idea that this video when it came out, the audience reacted in a very negative way. she is not going to be here, but she's got this video. the video wasn't funny at all.

and in fact as a catholic my myself, i wondered, who could possibly have told her to say and do what they did in that video. they were making fun of catholics as far as i was concerned. not a smart thing to do especially in a race that is supposed to be this close and apparently is this close, every vote matters. when you make a decision to not go to an event -- which is a staple in presidential politics. you just don't miss this event. she said a month ago she couldn't make it. she didn't have a different event that was conflicting. she just wasn't going to make it. i think she is an individual who is not self-deprecating, who doesn't have a sense of humor, who is uncomfortable socially. and donald trump is. for all the talk by the left, donald trump and chuck schumer, during the break in, they were talking, they were laughing. donald trump has the ability to engage and get along with people. i think that the person who lost last night was kamala harris.

she showed herself to be not strong enough to support a big population in this country. >> i didn't see much out there that said that was a great kamala harris video. >> i think that really unify the country. it wasn't like she didn't put a lot of effort into it. there was a lot of effort that went into that lining up the actors to come and do this. by the way, it is absolutely insulting of course with this character is famous for is smelling her own armpits when she gets nervous in her catholic school uniform. the whole thing is just bizarre. sometimes i kind of wonder -- maybe america doesn't deserve a president that is absolutely as hilarious as donald trump is. i don't think that she has any self-awareness or self-confidence. that is why she can't perform in things like this.

and i think that she pays a price. it's not just catholics who are going to be offended by this. i think they rightly would be. and it is the sort of feel of the event she is being protected. she is afraid of engaging in territory where it is not completely controlled. when she does, it ends disastrously. >> a good opportunity for voters to see another side of her. just ahead, kamala harris parroting a new media topping point. donald trump took her to task for it. ♪ ♪ if you have heart failure, farxiga can help you keep living life with the ones you love. ask your doctor about farxiga today. farxiga can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract or genital yeast infections,

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♪ ♪ >> just 18 days until the election, and both candidates are storming the battleground state of michigan. president trump will be doing a rally later tonight in detroit. he was up bright and early this morning making a pit stop on "fox & friends" proving he is a juggernaut when doing inte interviews. kamala harris doesn't see it that way. she is bouncing on a new report that claims trump is too exhausted to continue his media tour. the vice president even using it as a new tamping talking point >> and now, he is ducking debates and canceling inte interviews. come on. check this out. his own campaign team recently said it is because of exha

exhaustion. well, if you are exhausted on the campaign trail, it raises real questions about whether you are fit for the toughest job in the world. >> trump wasn't going to let kamala get away with a ridiculous new attack line. >> what event did i cancel? she doesn't go to any events. she is a loser. she doesn't go to any events. she didn't show up at the catholic last night at the hotel. it's insulting. all they are as sound bites. today was on "fox & friends" at 7:00 in the morning. i went to two other appearances. i then made about 15 phone calls. i've gone 48 days now without a rest. i've got that loser who doesn't have the energy of a rabbit -- i'm not even tired. i'm really exhilarated. we are killing her in the polls. because the american people don't want her. she didn't pass or bar exam.

she is not a smart person. she is not a person that should represent our country. i want to see her do a cognitive test. she wasn't born smart. >> all rights. harold -- a woman who hasn't done a press conference and 89 days -- it is rich for her to claim that donald trump is exhausted when he wasn't an event last night, and this morning i turned on my tv and he was on television. >> i saw him early this morning as well. i hear when the president -- i have heard others talk about vice president harris and her being dumb. i don't think she is dumb. i think it is unfair to call her down. if the president think she was not smart and wasn't born smart. some of it is what the president said in some of it is a humerus. it's not working. if it were working, he would be further ahead. most people would not want a dumb president. i think i saw this morning on

"fox & friends." lorenz jones had a very interesting piece. the former president went to the bronx and went to a barbershop. it seemed like a diverse group of people in the barbershop. they seem to be open to some of the things that president trump was saying. those are the kind of things if i were advising president trump i would be advising him to do. the name-calling and some of the things he said about governor healey, he needs governor healey. the democrat strategy is pretty straightforward. they are trying to appeal to the governor healey voters in the key states where she garnered high teen digits or percentages in those races. vice president harris needs to go to a barbershop. i think the name-calling on both sides should cease. the campaigning in a substance behind that campaigning, i hope that is what proliferates here in the final 17 days. >> it is more rich coming from kamala who is the woman who covered for joe biden who put a lid on most mornings at 10:00 a.m.

>> she is suddenly an expert on cognitive decline. when did this happen? it is amazing to me. obviously, they are playing these head games -- which i understand. i don't think it is working. obviously, they did succeed at getting donald trump to take the bait and respond to it. the idea that americans are sitting around believing this idea that trump doesn't do enough interviews. the one thing i think -- the vast majority of all americans whether you love him or hate him agree upon is that he does too many interviews. the idea that you are going to sit here and attack him for not doing enough interviews, i get it in politics if you are going to tell a lie, tell a big lie. that seems like it is too big of a live for people to believe. >> the whole idea -- he thought it was a good thing that former president trump went to a black barbershop. trump has gone the places where republicans have never gone before.

whether it is black barbershop or, you know, going into harlem. he has done everything. he is not afraid to go in the lion's den. >> a lot of the election is going to come down to just that. we find our view is really want to hear what people on the ground especially in some of these key battleground states -- what they are saying. they don't want their vote to be assumed. they want to know where she stands on these issues. we carry that campaign speech that you gave that we played a bit of live during our program some of it today. there seems to be an angry kamala harris. she didn't lay out her policies and any further detail. she repeated a talking line, talking point. let's turn the page. turn the page. you are currently in the white house. you have been for almost 4 years. this is the economy. this is the biden-harris economy that is the number one issue for voters right now all over the country. turn the page from your policy she is making the case in the interview with bret baier, she

said this from the last ten years of donald trump running for president. talking about the stress and anxiety level of the american voter. it is true. it is on the rise. you felt it. that is a real thing right now. 15 or 16 days out from election day. take a deep breath. we've got a long way to go. i think it is time for her to really clearly lay out her plans for american voters. maybe they like the idea of her initially. if they still don't know what she is going to do for them today, they might look otherwise. >> do you want to wrap it up, greg? >> i don't mind her saying trump is exhausted. that is part of the game. it is the media that parents that. the media has committed the same crime. they ignored trump's -- joe biden's mental decline for his erratic states. there is a reason her staff as

the highest turnover rate since the titanic. it is her irritated entitlement. why do i have to work? she always seems exhausted. trump is exhausting. he is nonstop. she is nonsense. he has always been doing everything. she finally got it going in the last week or so. she is resentful that she has to do that campaign stop. she reminded me of every drunk woman in front of a bar craving that her taxi is late. shouting, what is going on? when she is calm, she reminds me of the instructor of a class that you are court ordered to take. so she knows she could take her time and do nothing and just rip you apart, because you need her signature. you know, she is a person you avoid behind the counter at the dmv who went afforded some

authority abuses it by lording it over you. she is every government bureaucrat whose only mission is to feather her nest and protect -- fiefdom. come on, charlie. >> either one will work in this setting. >> my point stands. >> some of the democrat u.s. senate candidates are avoiding her whether it is all red in texas, montana. >> she has the stain of loss on her. a wise man once said, judge, the rate is over. we are just testing the integrity of the election. rise man. >> is it tomato or tomato? speak out tomorrow. coming up, the millionaire brawl hits the campaign trail. elon musk and mark cuban taking shots at one another as a stump for their candidates. ♪ ♪ hey, scott.

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♪ ♪ >> the battle of the billionaires is shaking up to about 2024 race. mark cuban stumping for kamala harris while elon musk was making the case worse president trump and battleground pennsylvania. watch this. >> we have four more years of this, we are going to be fully mad max. it is nice to watch a "mad max" movie but we don't want to be in the "mad max" will be. >> this man has so little understanding of tariffs that he thinks china place for them. he thought mexico would pay for the wall. >> mark cuban later running to the safety -- social media algorithms are the reason why trump is popular with male voters. >> i've talked to people who say they like trump because he's a

gangster. that is why you are going to vote for him. for guys in particular, he started with football and go to another sport and you see women. all of a sudden, you are seeing something that is aggressive. it could be an entertainer or whoever. that leads you to getting content and memes in particular for donald trump. the campaign -- we have talked about it. has got to come up and reverse engineer those algorithms. >> we want to get into all this. we want to go to our conspiracy correspondent greg gutfeld. what do you make of this conspiracy theory on the internet that mark cuban and rachel maddow are the same person? >> we haven't seen them together. we are still waiting for confirmation. get on that, joe rogan. the thing about cuban is he is a billionaire and has a tv show, billionaire, tv show. he inserts himself into pop-culture and political is issues. he hates donald trump so much, where are you becoming ld