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chest. a lot of are e-mailing some of this '87 stock market coverage i did and said there's no way you covered that. that was an ai image that you showed. it was not an ai image. would i have promoted an ai image of myself looking like that. others said bad toupee, bad voice and you're still a human being, that was from my wife. and election day 17 days away. can you believe that? let's go to rich edison, following everything that is at stake, a state you might have heard one or two things about, pennsylvania. rich. >> good morning, neil. pennsylvania is a big state for this election. a number of candidates have been here with the arnold palmer regional airport. that's right, the golfer is from latrobe, and they named the airport after him and the drink, too. and counterpart, vice-president harris has been there and have

the running mates. they're hitting the swing states, pennsylvania. michigan yesterday is where you found harris and trump and campaigned in the detroit area yesterday. trump promised to revitalize manufacturing and of course in that means the auto industry. and trump has had some of his voters skeptical of main-in and early voting and now he wants to bank those ballots. >> so tomorrow, it's just starting, go and vote, make sure you vote and bring all of our friends that want to vote for us, tell them, jill, get your fat husband off the coach, get that -- get that fat pig off that coach. tell him to go and vote for trump. he's going to save our country. >> early voting begins today in detroit. here in pennsylvania, all counties say they have mail-in ballots available so voters can request, fill out and return

them all in one visit to their county election office. that's basically what early voting looks like here in pennsylvania. both candidates are trying to drive up turnout among their supporters and cut margins or flip votes from their opponent. trump is doing that here near pittsburgh, won the county by nearly 30 percentage points in 2020. and he's had elon musk in eastern pennsylvania holding rallies and discussions over the last couple of days and antonio brown, the former pittsburgh steelers wide receiver scheduled to appear here with the former president this evening. back to you, neil. neil: all right, rich, thank you very much for that. i wonder what's going to happen to the fat pig vote now as a result of that. alexandria hoff here, fair and balanced, giving us a road what team harris is up to. >> hi, neil, yeah, you have some noteables in entertainment in the get out the vote effort. tonight, vice-president harris

is going to be joined by usher at this rally in atlanta and earlier today, lizzo is going to be joining the get out the vote effort in detroit. michigan in particular, that's where the vice-president has been, both harris and trump have been trying to appeal to the large arab and muslim population and harris has made gains with women, college educated voters and seniors, and to combat sliding support from men, people of color, promising them optimism. >> as you know that's not what we're hearing from donald trump. instead, it is the same old tired playbook. he has no plan for how he would address the needs of the american people, no plan. can i hear it again, no plan. [laughter] >> early voting here in georgia has so far yielded historic results and started tuesday, and over 1.2 million ballots in total have been accepted. in 2020, president biden won georgia by less than 12,000

votes and georgia republicans are calling post election count this year a possible litigation mine field. on tuesday, a fulton county judge blocked a rule to be hand counted, after being machine tabulated. this is' already an emergency appeal. >> you work for the best outcome and prepare for the worst. and we're prepared for a close election to deal with those post election legal processes that you go there. >> back here on the trail, former president obama has been campaigning for harris. he was in tucson last night and he's going to be here side by side with her for the first time in atlanta on thursday and then a week from now, so on saturday, former first lady, michelle obama, she's going to be joining vice-president harris side by side in a campaign event, that will take place in michigan, neil. neil: all right, thank you for all of that.

alexandria hoff. in the meantime, i want to update you on what the trump plans are for who is going to be working on his behalf and with him in these final days. julia, we're hearing that, i know, that they're going to work on nikki haley in having her campaign with him. what are you hearing on that front? >> yeah, look, this is so interesting, neil, because it comes at a time when we're seeing kamala harris and her allies and campaign really zero in on what we call persuadable republican voters. they may disagree with harris on policy, but really don't like who trump is as a person, they don't want what they say is the chaos of the four years of the trump administration so they're almost flirting with kamala harris, you know, or even with staying home and not voting for trump which could, in turn, help kamala harris. earlier this week we saw a number of never trump, rallying

in swing county, bucks county, pennsylvania, in an effort to appeal to the voters. i think the logic from the trump campaign is to bring in someone like nikki haley has criticized trump, her former boss, why staying home or voting or kamala harris may not be in their best interest as right leaning or republican voters. >> i always wondered, too, when you bring in big guns, whether they're big singers like what have you, like usher, party luminari luminaries, whether they make a difference at all. >> last night we saw former president barack obama, arguably one of the most popular figures, along with his wife, michelle obama, they're hoping to juice turnout on their side and appeal to undecided voters who find the

obamas to be favorable. with someone like nikki haley though, i think it's different. i think bringing someone like her out is, you know, is in an effort to appeal to a specific subset of republicans that she was able to appeal to in the primaries. remember, even though she didn't win the g.o.p. primary outright, we did see her getting significant, you know, portions of the vote, sometimes 10, 15, 20% in some of these states, meaning that there are republican primary voters who like nikki haley. the question is though, are these primary voters going to come home to trump and vote for him in the general election or are they going to be protest votes. neil: as you indicated, every little bit helps, and if you would get a few otherwise might not have shown support for donald trump, but then would. and could i get your take, at

ethel kennedy's funeral this past week we have images of joe biden talking to barack obama. i'm not lip-reader, but people who were lip-readers say they were expressing concern about kamala harris and this campaign. again, i don't know how accurate that is. at first i thought there was a tension convention between them, but maybe part of the tension was built on concerns about this race and how the vice-president is faring. what are you hearing on that? what are you hearing on higher ups in the party getting increasingly concerned? >> look, we heard barack obama say in public last night in arizona that this is going to be a very, very tight race. and i think there's concerns on both sides of the aisle that this is going to be tight. because we really don't know how it's going to go. you know, and in looking at recent polling there was a emerson national college report, 63% of undecided voters.

there's nervousness that donald trump is able to peel off any part of the democratic coalition. we're seeing according to polls there are some softening of support particularly among black men and latino men. kamala harris is not losing that bloc, but seems like there's softening of support and i think that's what's making democrats nervous. now, i don't know what joe biden and barack obama were talking about at the funeral, but i think their presence there, them talking, both of these men know, you know, sort of how to send a message, what it looks like when they are together and such. so, i think that was definitely a show of unity. i imagine they are talking about this quite a bit behind the scenes. neil: right. >> and constant communication, but look, it's going to be close and there is some nervousness that, you know, maybe that burst of energy she got coming into the contest last summer, becoming the democratic nominee could be fading a little bit as the polls narrow. neil: got it. great catching up with you, the

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so those voters have to vote someplace and they've always preferred voting during the early cycle. this morning we were at one million 35,000 voters who voted earlier and now already up to 1,176,000 today. before the show is over, 1.2 million or maybe 1,250,000. by end of the day, 1.4 million who voted early. >> when does early voting end? >> in two weeks. we have two more weeks of this and this is only a four day cycle. next week for six days because we have saturday voting again next week and then we're also going to have five days on the last week. so at the end of the day, it's a strong turnout that we're going to have and that's going to be over four million people who vote early, probably 75% of our total vote total. when stacey abrams came down and talked about the voting integrity october of 2002 --

2022, she was wrong. >> pulling the all-star game from you guys and it was ridiculous. >> yeah. neil: let me get a sense from you. can you show me the procedure? what happens, secretary, what votes are counted first, early votes, potentially millions of them? >> well, what we do with sb202 and this year sb189. now all of the early accepted absentee ballots and early voting reported no later than 8 p.m. on election night and give people 70% probably of the total votes cast reported no later than 8 p.m. and the great thing is, we have counties that are racing to see who can get their vote totals put up on the board first so you'll see stuff at 7:01, 7:02, but no later than 8 p.m. and lines have to be shorter than one hour. and we have a new electronic poll pad.

when i voted goyt checked in in less than 50 seconds in and out in less than 10 minutes. trish and i voted earlier this week and a fast, smooth, seamless process. it's safe and secure and voters trust the process and that's why you're seeing record turnout i'm not surprised. we're recognized top in the nation in election integrity and we've worked hard to earn that title. >> the issue with counting and all of that, a judge shot down an effort to have hand counted ballots going on election day. what do you think of that? how does that complicate things for you? >> well, i'm glad that the judge did shoot it down. i never supported it from day one. but lo and behold we had several counts themselves, republican counts supported by the boards sued on the rules and they got shot down by a judge. so, we also had a very conservative think tank that came in, georgia-based that sued based on constitutional issues. so, the end of the day it went

down in flames and the good thing is it actually will help us continue to have the quick results so you're not waiting until 3:00, 4:00 in the morning. we intend to have those results posted, 80% of them as it goes over the night and then see, probably be done by 12 midnight with most of the counts which we're excited about because people can go to bed at night and not have to stay up until 2:00, 3:00 in the morning. neil: wow. you know, secretary, while i have you here. obviously you and donald trump had your dustup and differences and buried the hatchet with your governor, has he buried the hatchet with you or you with he? >> i'm just doing my job making sure we have fair, honest voting, i have no ax to grind with anyone. as a republican i care who they vote for, but when i put on my secretary of state hat, we're doing our job and that's what we're called to do do our job. follow the law and constitution, can we keep the lines short and results

quickly. why can't we turn voting into fun experience why does it have to be such a daily chore, it's not a grind here, it's fun because the lines are quick. neil: you and donald trump, it sounds like i'm beating a dead horse, i apologize for that. obviously the friction that you were getting from donald trump and worse, has that dissipated? have you moved on? >> oh, i know i'm not worried about it and i don't think he is either. he's in a tight race. this is going to be close and i think he's up in latrobe, pennsylvania tonight, my dad was born in johnstown, and i know that area welcome. he's out there working it hard and she is, our job to make sure-- >> when is the last time you talked to donald trump? >> a few years ago. he's out-- he's got big things to do right now and i understand that, but we have big things to do, also, make sure we keep the lines short and people can continue to vote. we have record turnout and we're excited about. we'll be well over the five

million number in 2020. neil: where is the turnout coming from? a lot of people are reading, are they democratic strong holds or republican strong holds? >> we have that like we have on our election data hub and every single county and it's all over the state so people can make the guesses they want, but you're seeing a turnout, rural areas, urban areas, suburban areas, it's turning out statewide. people are engaged and people want to support their candidate. neil: so what you're saying is that things look peachy in the peach state. see what i did there. >> always do. go dawgz. neil: all right. secretary, thank you very, very much. brad raffensperger, the georgia secretary of state, incredible early voting going on here. in the meantime, incredible battle of billionaires arguing over who is the better president of the united states after this. i know that i have a job to do.

there's purpose for me being there. in contra costa college's spirit program, my job is to work side by side with the individual and let them focus on how resilient they are. whether they're struggling with hardship, mental health and substance abuse, i give them tools that they can use to achieve greatness in their lives. i get to go through these doors and i get to be great. and you can too.

at contra costa college, we all can. >> i honestly think that he used to understand how tariffs work. let's call him the grinch from now on. you know what? it gets worse than that. it's not just about the christmas presents you won't be able to buy because of tariffs made them too expensive. >> we're going to see government spending go ballistic, inflation go nuts. it's going to be just bad on every level and like fundamentally, if the current trend of, you know, strangulation by overregulation is not turned around, we'll never get to mars. it just will be illegal. neil: all right. billionaires with very different views on the candidates. mark cuban not a fan of donald trump. and elon musk, a fan of donald

trump, invested $75 million on a super pac. and the managing partner, larry, traditional argument, wall street leans right, taxes, regulations and that's donald trump's sweet spot, but tariffs could significantly add to the debt according to studies. kamala harris, a lot of her plans add to debt. when you talk to your colleagues. >> the traditional rules are out. this is the battle of the tech bro billionaires, it's a good thing it's an aspirational message, these are people who made their money in this country. in a prior generation we saw the best and brightest flocking to washington to help solve the nation's problems and now to silicon valley and now to texas

where both of these billionaires live hopefully a sign of the aspirational message you get an increased private and public sector partnership. that's what wall street is excited about. they know that washington can't solve these problems alone. the $35 trillion debt is a mess. we've stranded people in space with our space program and it took elon musk spacex to rescue them. that's a public-private partnership. wall street is moving up. excite around interest rate cuts and excitement that there is hopefully there's a pro business agenda on the other side of this election and that's what wall street sees right now. neil: you know, a lot of these ceo's, as you know, don't always tip their hand who they favor in this race. i got a sense from brian moynihan bank of america, that he might lean more to donald trump, i could be wrong, but he's worried that neither candidate is addressing the elephant in the room. i want you to respond to this.

this is the bank of america ceo. >> that will increase the debt by trillions. so it shows up nowhere on their priority, it shows up nowhere, even on the top 10 issues americans are concerned about. does that worry you? >> this economy is the envy of everyone and if we we don't manage the debt well, it may not be so envious in the future. handled in the first week after new administration or continuing an old administration continuing, it's the question of basically having that discipline across time. neil: what did you think about that, if we don't do something soon on this, it's going to blow up in our face. no one seems worried. >> i think it's the elephant in the room. we don't hear boo about it on the campaign trail. we hear about tax cuts and get voters. en in the long run fiscal responsibility. traditional republicans wanted less government, small government and it's interesting

we're in the final stretch of the campaign normally the markets are relatively subdued, optimistic, we don't see losses, but we don't see this euphoria. we have to make sure that inflation doesn't come back. that's the market telling you, it's concerned we haven't solved the debt problem. it's going to come back. look, delinquencies on debt for the average consumer is rising in this country. auto insurance is rising, home owners insurance is unattainable in some. and hopefully the billionaires get people out to vote and more importantly get people engaged in the political process like they were a generation ago so together we can start to solve some of the nation's problems. excessive government spending obviously on a lot of government programs is another. we've got to bring the best and brightest minds back in and right now most of the leaders in wall street are afraid to show their cards because of

cancel culture and worry if they support one party or the other they'll lose their position, that's what the true billionaires bring to the table, regardless whether you agree with them. self-made people. the story i want to embrace for the next generation. >> you know, i look back at history and fascinate with the 37th anniversary of the '87 crash, we needed both sides working together after that to sort of calm people down and i go back to bill clinton working with newt gingrich to try to tackle some of the big debt issues, and kim reynolds, the governor of iowa had-- maybe is providing the blueprint for now you can do this. now, what she's doing is on the state level, but it has national implications. i want you to take a look what she had to say about this. >> we need to stop spending more than they take it. we need to reduce the size of government. they can do that, first of all, it's slow, it's duplicative and unresponsive and i can't

imagine the waste at the federal level. when i looked at what i was able to do cutting 21 agencies to save 215 million dollars and i can tell you, neil, that's conservative, in three years. think of what they could do if they would cut tannxes, reduce red tape, and plow those savings back into tax cuts for the american people and for the business community. neil: you know, i think that would lead to a boom not only on wall street, but main street and the economy would soar. if you tackle these things head on, what do you think? >> those are difficult conversations and they need to be had. those are very thoughtful conversations, look, i think that wall street likes the fact that the parties work together. they want split partnership, they don't want one country controlling the other half, they want to see them work together. that's how we solve this. there's hope after the election we'll bring the groups together and have the public sector and