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howard: you've turned down a number offer and views if there's realtime fact checking there. >> whey said and i said it very largely is there's fake news and it's corruptness and beyond fakeness. in the old days, i've been doing this for a long time. i have a story in the new york times let's say and when the writer was finished, id get a call from what's called a fact checker. this is what i said. they'd say sir, is it right that you did this, right that you did that? right that you have this number of things whatever it may be? check the story.

z check the writer and it's called a fact checker. calling me all the type. routinely a fact checker at new york times and whoever was doing that they don't fact check anymore. today they don't even call. they write stories of the times that's totally in my opinion corrupt. they write stories about knowingly false and knowingly to try and win for a radical left crazy person that will destroy our country. and i call it the failing new york times and it does terribly. but they write whatever they want to right.

we have a great example, a lot of them lately with the times and the times i can give you a lot of going for them and going for them to shorten them up and changing them and they don't consider that the same kind of violation.

going for them and i'm going to send her a hat because it's much different and you go back two years ago and go back to when she was defeated by biden. howard: four years ago. >> radical left and transgender operations for anybody that wanted them and she was beyond -- probably beyond marxist if you want to know the truth. she's considered, put it

differently i mean, by a lot. this country cannot have that and this country has going to find them. asking me that question, you can't talk about her now but has to be a few years ago. howard: after our interview, donald trump flew to pennsylvania, around palmer's hotel and discussed golfer's

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howard: cable news rivals that can't stand fox took their punch shots. >> coming to immigration, you supported allowing immigrants in the country illegally to apply for driver's license to qualify for free tuition at universities and be enrolled in free healthcare. do you still support those things? >> listen, that was five years ago and i'm very clear that i will follow the law. >> madame vice president, they're wrapping me very hard here. howard: i spoke with the anchor. bret baier, welcome. >> thanks, howard. howard: do you think kamala harris accomplish what had she set out to do by sitting down with fox? >> well, i think s. it's a good question. i think the campaign wanted to have a exchange.

they wanted to have a viral moment, maybe. clearly she wanted to talk about donald trump, which she mentioned multiple times throughout the interview and then had this kind of fiery exchange about how he's a threat to democracy and a danger. she did have that viral moment. obviously were other moments in the interview as well. howard: there's been criticism of the interview. let me play a bit from the interview and we'll pick it up on the other side. >> sure. reporter: the criticism. >> you have to let me finish. >> white house and out and senate. howard: did you feel at times you were debating the vice president? >> i didn't want to be like that and wanted to redirect. she acknowledged you know what i'm going to say in one of the answers and i did know what she was going to say. she was going to her stump talking points and i was asking very specific questions about immigration at that very point

about the 94 executive orders that had been rescinded in the early days and led to influx of illegal immigrants over the border. so throughout that, it was like a redirection and what i've done before and when i feel like if there is feel like there could d only be four answers to the interview and all the time would be gone if i didn't do that. at times it was back and forth and i led to the vice president to get her points across and we went through as many topics as we could. howard: it's a difficult balancing act. some people are saying i've seen more than one person online saying he'd never interview donald trump that way. fox news took a look at your interview last year with the former president, and here it is. >> i won in 2020.

>> that's not the question. >> this is a very rigged election. >> this is how you're telling that independent supporter bourbon voter to vote for you? >> we're winning very well. all corrupt stuff, bret. >> i understand. r howard: so you were at the former ft. pretty hard. >> i did do the same thing. i redirected and he was basically doing the same thing as well. answering what he ped to answer and i'm trying to do it in a respectful way, pointed way to get back on the question at hand. going to get the politician off the canned answers and that may not be easy to do because they're trying to get him as well.

>> yeah, it's get in on the breath really. somebody has to take a breath. breathhoward: i want to play one bit of sound for you and this is a chance to expand on it and had to do when you played a clip for vice president harris. let's look. howard: the clip that we ran should have been clearer and the purpose of that clip was to show that very day in a town hall aired on fox and the former president and harris from within

and what i should have done is the maria bartiromo interview and addresses it and by putting that second sound out, it was not that clear and i wanted to address that after i saw the reaction and obviously the vice president took it like we were trying to say that's what he said. that's not what i meant. it should have been clearer. howard: would you describe it as a mistake? >> yeah, i described it on special report to be fair to the vice president and the content and were addressing it with the former president directly even that day hours before on harris faulkner's town hall. howard: right. behind the scenes you were feeling time pressure in terms of the interview.

explain a bit about that. >> we were told it was starting at 5:00 p.m.. as you know, when you pretape, we were doing as live just taping it and then running it and turning it around for the start of special report at 6:00 p.m. eastern time. to do that technically, we needed to be running, starting the interview at about 5:18 at the latest otherwise we couldn't have turned it around. the campaign knew that and it took a long time, vice president was in a holding room in the same building. eventually 5:05, 5:10, 5:15 she came in at 5:17 and got it started just before the 5:18 deadline and pressure 20 wrap up. we got 27 minutes in all and i was very grateful for the time. story online about icy before

and after. it was very cord yule. july. we shook hands before and i said nice to meet you and afterwards we shook hands again and i said love to have you back. >> i think she wanted to get to the hammering of the former president and having that moment is what i felt when i finished. would i do other things? i look back at it and i ask the questions i wanted to ask. there's about a third of them i didn't ask. there's many more topics that i wanted to get to: the economy, china, ukraine.

it just took a long time. we invited former president trump to the same format and hope he takes us up on it. 30 minutes unedited straight through no commercials and we have plenty of time. howard: finally, do you feel like the fact that she kept going back to trump again and again and again obviously she wanted fox visiers to hear her point of the former president was also in a way with former politicians dancing around and i asked about turning the page vice president for three and half year years and i didn't knw what she was talking about. we went around a couple of times

on some topics and i wish we talked to others and i said, i invited her and told the staff i'd love to have her back. howard: i'm getting a hard wrap here, bret baier. >> i know how that feels. howard: thanks very much for joining us. howard: that interview has gotten snl treatment and for the final thoughts and rfk jr. scandal takes a very nasty turn. do your dry eyes still feel gritty, rough, or tired? with miebo, eyes can feel ♪ miebo ohh yeah ♪ miebo is the only prescription dry eye drop that forms a protective layer for the number one cause of dry eye: too much tear evaporation. for relief that's ♪ miebo ohh yeah ♪ remove contact lenses before using miebo. wait at least 30 minutes before putting them back in. eye redness and blurred vision may occur. what does treating dry eye differently feel like? ♪ miebo ohh yeah ♪

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howard: the scandal involving rfk jr. and magazine editor olivia is take an ugly turn. her ex-fiance was placed on leave as politico's chief correspondent made new accusations in court and newsy

sued him accusing of blackmail, hacking and making violent threats. he denies it. he broke off the engagement after learning he was cheated on said his ex engaged in a catastrophic behavior and was have a toxic and catastrophic relationship with a 70-year-old sex addict that wanted to possess, control and impregnate her. seems like ryan lizza got the worst treatment and responding in court. nobody comes out looking good here. kennedy brushes off any question withs a no comment. one thing of today's program is how best to conduct a television interview. it's a challenge. you want to press and follow up and follow up again and this is risky business and your time may be limited and come out too aggressively, your subject hay get offensive and dig in. if you come out too passively, your subject may just take control and filibuster till the end. obviously my colleague bret baier faced one kind of challenge with kamala harris and

donald trump and i have a long history of going at it but in civil fashion. more telling it the reaction from both sides and both sides will never be satisfied unless your guest is left battered and blued i didded and some -- bloodied and some derangement zone and going with the interview and this organization is dominating the political dialogue and this digital era on tiktok, snap chat, instagram, and x. everybody can have their say. that's a good thing and breaking that media monopoly and filling with crude attacks and misinformation and series theories and reflects increasingly toxic media and also play alienating woes on tv and look at how much news the candidates made on podcasts that didn't exist just a few years ago in which people love and they're openly opinionuated and

more time and fun and just over two weeks to go in this craziest election of our lifetimes. that's it for this edition on media buzz in new york. i'm howard kurtz. i should have labeled the new york yankees getting into the world series for the first time in 15 years. not that i have any strong personal views about that. also donald trump is supposed to go to mcdonalds today and he's going to work the fries. this drawing a contrast with what they say is kamalrris didn't actually work at mcdonalds and she insists she did as a young person. well, you can check out my free daily podcast for that form and media buzz and there's a lot of fun and we do buzzy stuff and we're back here and back in washington next sunday at 11 eastern. see you then. am i just gonna take what the markets gives me? no. i can do some research. ya know, that's backed by j.p. morgan's leading strategists like us. when you want to invest with more confidence... the answer is j.p. morgan wealth management

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