>> brian: 7:00 a.m. on the east coast. monday, october 21st.

this is "fox & friends." the tale of two campaigns. harris turns to celebrities as president trump gets a roaring reception at the jets-steelers games without celebrities. and works the fryer at mcdonald's without celebrities. >> thank you, mr. president. >> nice to see you. hi, darling, how are you? >> you made it possible. ordinary people like us to meet -- >> -- you are not ordinary. i can see. >> brian: this, all after a key endorsement from pennsylvania's steelworks. they join us in minutes. i'm a registered democrat. i voted for you the first time. i voted for you the second time. >> thank you. >> and i'm going to vote for you again. >> you better. ♪ >> ainsley: and are down ballot democrats trying to cozy up to trump in the final stretch?

>> got president trump, the sign our made in america bill. >> wrote a law signed by entrepreneurship. >> the second hour of "fox & friends" starts right now and, remember, mornings are better with friends. ♪ he. >> brian: except check me i dare you with 15 days until the election thank you very much. the trump and harris campaigns are heading to overdrive. >> ainsley: president trump talking to voters while serving customers during an iconic appearance at a pennsylvania mcdonald's and kamala harris will focus on voters in pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin after campaigning with celebrities over the weekend. >> lawrence: senior white house correspondent peter doocy is live in royal a.o.c., michigan. hey, peter. >> peter: good morning. royal a.o.c., michigan where we are is the real detroit suburb that was where the fictional sitcom home improvement was based. and this is where vice president harris is going to come later on

today for one of her three moderated conversations with liz cheney. the harris campaign is trying to reach republican women who they think are disenchanted with donald trump. and so expected to hear liz cheney talk a lot about how she thinks donald trump is a threat to democracy. which was not an opinion shared by large sections of the crowd, at the jets-steelers game. the former president attended in pittsburgh last night. [chanting u.s.a.] >> peter: trump's biggest event wasn't at a stadium though it was drive-thru. trump supporting franchise owner worked with the secret service so that it was safe for the former president to pass bags the of fast food through the

window into people's cars. they showed him thousand work the fry cooker. something the former president you will see in this clip appeared very happy to be doing. >> going to take from these ones first. that's the freshest one. got the salt on it. never touches the human hand. >> very good, very good. >> nice full. >> this guy is a good instructor. >> i really appreciate it. >> give them a really big one. look at that. just pouring out. how good is that? >> >> peter: and now the question 15 days before the election becomes if you are at a mcdonald's drive-thru and donald trump hands your fries to you do you try to keep them as a political memento or do you eats them? back to you. >> brian: the thing is, peter, he didn't touch them so i mean he just handed.

>> ainsley: didn't touch the human hand. >> brian: i would keep the fry holster. >> lawrence: that's what we call a holster now? >> lawrence: frame it and put it in your office. >> lawrence: that's true and some of the fries. >> peter: we know donald trump has had a lot of mcdonald's over the years. it was probably a great relief for him to hear that the fries never touch anybody's human hands before they get to the bag. >> ainsley: don't they say is he a germophobe, too. did you see when he was putting on the apron they said what's your favorite food at mcdonald's? he said hmm i like it all. >> peter: seems very familiar with the layout inside mcdonald's. if really looked like he was having fun back there imagine being the guy who is normally on a sunday doing the fries. and your boss comes to you and says hey, listen, we have an extra apron. it's going to be for donald trumpened you're going to have to show them how to make the food.

>> brian: all right. you can't say he doesn't want to win. is he working weekends. picking up shifts in order to take this election. >> lawrence: thanks, peter. >> brian: there combings the train. >> lawrence: they continue to knock them on what happened with the secret service that they have to vet everyone. when someone -- we just have to do it with the barbershop. when somebody is in close proximity of the former president because iran wants to kill him and there has been two assassination attempts there is security measures that have to be taken for that and they have to vet these people. contrast that to the stadium where people wanted that close up of the former president he still got a huge crowd there i don't think you can knock him on the vetting process there. >> ainsley: they were chanting u.s.a. u.s.a. and he started saying it back. >> lawrence: saying it right with them. now to this. kamala harris heads to pennsylvania today. former president trump getting a key endorsement there over the weekend. watch. >> the president save the steel industry with tariffs.

you saved it with tariffs. you are my hero and you are the greatest president ever. we love you. we love you. [cheers and applause] >> so steelworkers for trump and the rank and file mountain valley works wants to endorse you. we want to give you a hard hat. [cheers] put the hard hat on. [cheers] >> ainsley: joining us now, those steelworkers who joined trump on the stage. you have brian paf lack. richard tyingy. you have andy macy and glen thomas. hey, guys. >> good morning. >> what was it? like. richard, what was it like to be on stage and meet him and have a chance to talk to him and represent the steel industry? >> lifetime experience. i am glad i got get my men's up there and got to see him.

all about my members to me, you know, meet mr. trump. mr. trump saved all of our jobs request those tariffs. >> brian: so, brian, what was the key point for you where you said i want to do this endorsement among the rank and file and i want to do it in front of a crowd? >> yeah. it was a great experience. i'm glad that he accepted it endorsement. i just wanted people to know that the steelworkers for trump i want people to know that all the steelworkers in the valley are for president trump. >> lawrence: so glenn, i'm curious. typical union workers in your industry endorse democrats. why donald trump this go around? >> well, historically we have all been democrats. a couple of us are third generation steelworkers. we had a trade case our exinternational president was fighting chinese for illegal

dumping and he imposed i believe he saved not only our country but the valley where many of us have lived for close 30 years andy, what about you? why are you supporting trump? >> well, number one, is to protect the jobs in our valley i'm a third generation steel worker. i have been through those layoffs it's not fun? i have seen three mills shut down in the valley in the 80's. we have three mills left in the valley. i don't want to see those shut down. and he made a firm commitment when i asked him with a handshake, mr. president, after the election will do you what can you to keep our valley viable in the steel industry. he gripped my hand and confirmed to me through that handshake that he says i will do that you

take him at his word. we don't have steelworkers background. steel is the world standard, why is us steel struggling? is it the labor cost in the virtual slave labor of these other countries that you are competing with? >> comp continuation still coming in from other countries. we are a world leader. we are. we have the most efficient folk plant in the world. we meet environment standards which are very tough to meet in allegheny county. they are getting more strict. we meet those. s we exceed those. our steel is the best steel that can be made. we want to continue that. we have a pending sale coming up the problem we have is our international leaders aren't

meeting with our -- the ceo from u.s. steele and from nippon. and over the last year we have learned the facts about this that it's not sitting well with the membership because we are behind the sale but our international needs to get to the table get the facts and then bring it to the membership instead of the membership taking it to our international leaders. >> brian: japanese company trying to buy it. >> lawrence: brian, we have 15 seconds. i'm curious, if kamala harris wins, what does that mean for your industry? >> we're done. >> i think we're done. if she is elected president, she is going to take off the tariffs. all tariffs. steel tariffs. >> all kind of tar tariff callsa task tax on the american people and talking about tariffs. we need president trump elected to save our jobs.

>> ainsley: richard and glenn, i think they are giving us a little bit more time we did have 15 seconds because you are so good and this is interesting we wanted to ask you on the back row. why the momentum? why we seeing that switch more to donald trump? used to think steelworkers, unions, that's going to the democrats. >> he put the tariffs on when he was the president the last time our jobs were in jeopardy then too much dumping of steel from other countries. he saved our jobs. >> one of the first things did he when he got into the presidency is to put those tariffs on. and they worked. many. >> we have all seen growing up around here in the pittsburgh area since the veants, when the japanese actually did that to us. they dumped steel at&t at extremely low prices. it forced a lot of our steel industry, lp. , j and l to closedown because t

compete. we fought that trade case they leveled the playing field for us, and then we were able to compete in the world market. >> we want to get back to that. that's why when you look at the sale to nippon steel, they want us to be a bigger player in the global market. so, the workforce our union brothers and sisters we are for it. we are for that sale. >> brian: you are? >> we can't stress enough to get the international -- just to go to the table and meet with them. that's all we are asking at this point, meet with them. >> brian: that's important. you are for this japanese company buying u.s. steel? >> the rank and file is for it. >> overwhelmingly. >> brian: you feel as though they will be able to put the money in to expand and keep it here.

>> oh, my. yes. they promised to rebuild. we have a hot mill at our urban plant that is -- was built in 1938. how do you compete with that with modern technology today that's available? we want that. we want that in the that's why we are here to advocate for that. >> the township probably 80% of them probably 60% of them less than 10 years. we have a young workforce. i stood in those lines for -- to have benefits for my children in the 80's in the food lines. i did that i don't want to see the -- our members now, our

young workers it's not fun. >> we have all grown up eating the government cheese, peanut butter and everything else given out while our dads were laid off and people were losing their homes. they were moving away. kids that were graduating from college were moving to the south, to the west for job opportunities because there was nothing left here. that's when pittsburgh transitioned into the medical industry. >> ainsley: there is a guy. >> i would like to mention a couple people's names that helped us out, representatives of congress. andrew kuzma, eric devanzo and aaron and bernstein. running for office. >> lawrence: we appreciate you all joining us. >> ainsley: thanks for everything do you for america. >> thank you for having us. >> thank you for having us. >> thank you. >> ainsley: you wouldn't wish losings your job on your worst enemy. when you were interviewing the guy in the bronx and he said i'm losing my job. we said what kind of a company does he have? he has a tile company.

>> lawrence: yep. and this reminds me of these gentlemen speaking remind me of the workers when i was in pennsylvania talking to the frackers. they said the same exact thing. so this is a trend. and i think these union workers switch something going to impact this next elections. >> brian: evidently u.s. steel doesn't have the money to modernize. nippon steel would and keep the jobs here. the knee-jerk reaction is not sell u.s. steel. these guys who are steelworkers nippon steel would allow us to modernize and keep it here. a lot of things more complicated than what they seem. let's talk about the 2024 election. lawrence lawrence yeah, ainsley and brian, seems like no one can tell us the difference between joe biden and kamala harris. >> ainsley: they can't even -- she can't tell us the difference. >> lawrence: i know. the runner-up for the job of vice president, democratic nominee josh is a punish row was asked the same thing by msnbc. let's watch. >> powells do show that more americans feel as though president biden's policies have

hurt them rather than help them. so can you name one key policy difference between vice president harris and president biden? how would her administration look different? >> i have been really encouraged by the amount of energy that kamala harris, vice president harris has put in to focusing on how she will cut taxes. for small businesses. the focus on child care, tax credit expansion. >> those aren't necessarily differences though. they are an expansion or tweak to some extent to what happens been done. can you name one policy difference? >> well, listen, again, the contrast i am focused on, kristen is between her and donald trump. >> brian: governor shapiro, this is very important. they don't want to put down joe biden. joe biden has disappeared for the final weeks of the campaign trail. she never brings him up. never refers to any successes that she claims they would have had over those last four years. and now he is not asked to go out and join them because even though the most -- most of these

networks would tell you how successful joe biden is and joe biden tells you how successful he is. the american people don't reflect that and they still hold bitterness about the oppressive cody restrictions. and the lockdowns and the mandates. and they are not going to forget it as well as denying that bidenomics didn't work for them. >> and did you hear kristen's question to him? she said can you just name one? >> lawrence: just one. >> ainsley: just one. he will couldn't do it. he said her energy. i mean. more joy than joe biden? what is he trying to say there? gavin newsom, he rushed to her defense as well and said she is in this impossible position. having to separate herself from the platform of joe biden. i think you are right. i think they are terrified to put him down because, i think she is grateful to him because he chose her basically and chose her -- he did choose her as his vice president. and gave her an opportunity. >> lawrence: they can't win though linking themselves to him.

you already got rid of him off the ticket. i'm sure he will forgive you later if you just distance yourself and say -- call an ace an ace and a spaden a spade. tell the difference to the american people. >> ainsley: talk negatively about the biden family they are going to go after you. they are walking a fine line. >> brian: i don't know how much they have left. one thing we are noticing trend on the other side. not that donald trump and taxes. donald trump and defense on spending. will not donald trump and different hand hand lick of the border. he has lost his mind. is he too old. not the same guy. that was picked up by miranda devine whose headline reads like this. >> lawrence: joy has vanished from the harris campaign. fear is in place. fear that the dems might lose the elections to the dreaded trump. >> they are saying that look at

mcdonald's thing they said over and over he is becoming unhinged we ask him about that last week. it was joy. they realized that wasn't working. now they are going the fear tactic. only two more weeks left. >> lawrence: there is a contrast. look at the media. they are playing fear game. donald trump is evil. can't do anything right. but the people on the ground see something different. and it's not just the republicans. the independents it's the lawmakers that are democrats that are in tight races. and i saw this montage of ads of all these democrats. and they are linking themselves, evening though they say they hate donald trump in their ads they are linking themselves to donald trump. watch. >> biden to protect fracking and siding with trump to end nafta and put tariffs on china to stop them from cheating. >> danny baldwin got donald trump to sign our made in america bell. and then she got president biden

to make it permanent. >> that's why wrote a law signed by president trump forcing drug companies to show their actual prices. >> and a lot of them do not want to campaign with harris. >> ainsley: why are they doing. this because they know he is popular. a lot of his policies much more popular than joe biden. hey, i was part of that where it was. i'm still a democrat. you can't find harris there, so casey in particular has voted with joe biden like 98% of the time. what is mccormick saying? how has he helped you? now he rolls out an ad saying voted with trump a couple times. >> lawrence: so fake and disingenuous though. lying to the american people. just say you are. you don't see any republican -- if there are i would like to seat ads linking themselves to joe biden. what competitive race across the country well i voted with joe biden for this? i supported this bill. i signed onto the inflation reduction act. you don't see that if these democrats are doing that they are panicked in their

distribution. >> ainsley: do you think these ads? i'm yourous to see pennsylvania casey running against dave mccormick neck and neck and which poll you are looking at. elon musk actually endorsed dave mccormick and put it on x and he has millions of 2308ers so that was a big deal. because they are so close. casey, the democrat, running these ads where is he linking himself to trump in the republican areas? because i would think in some of the democratic areas. >> brian: philadelphia. yeah. they are doing rural areas. i know kamala harris originally said i'm going to go visit those sites knock is panning out. remember they told you 2016 trump won in a fluke. 2017 got more votes than anybody else even though joe biden won the election. now they said the blue wall will never fall again. the blue wall is beginning to creek again and i'm waiting for them to pull out some type of external force and not -- or just come out and say what

they're thinking. they can't believe the american public would actually ignore what they have been saying donald trump and vote for him any way. >> i think they were blindsided. not on the ground listening to the media and it's backfired on them ask governor shapiro, why some people voting for him? >> he gives the allusion is he going to get things done. american people wants to get things done but he doesn't. >> ainsley: are you better off now or better off four years ago? so we are seeing him. wake up this morning and saw him at the 34-bg donalds in the drive-thru, former president with his apron on and working the french fry machine. and then you see him at the pittsburgh steelers game playing the jets. the crowd went crazy. and then you see him in the barber shop in the bronx with you,. >> lawrence: lawrence it's crazy. he decided to come to the bronx. this was a democrat that was in the barbershop talking to the former president. watch. >> i want to say i'm a registered democrat. i voted for you the first time.

voted for you the seconds time. >> lawrence: thank you. >> i'm going to vote for you again. >> you better. [laughter] >> my question is this: i have multiple inves investments in f. real estate investments and also in new york. taxes continue to go up. and sometimes you feel like you are in a losing battle. >> i know. i know this place. even better than you. >> i'm sure do you. >> i know this place with the taxes and tax certiorari. all i can do is give you a great economy and you will have to get your rents up. the city -- if you had great leadership in this stickers a lot of things could be done. a lot of things could be done. it's so sad to see. when i left for washington, we had a guy named de blasio, he was probably the worst mayor in history. he was so terrible. the democrats went after adams because, you know, he said, rightfully, i can't live like this. you got 100,000 migrants in

here. you can't run the city. so they indicted him. in my opinion, that had a lot to do with it. democrats, and they did it with others, too. because it's almost like a communist state. we got win this thing. we got to get that garbage out of our government. because this is no way to run. the big thing i'm going to do is make the economy great. that's going to make you get higher rents, et cetera, et cetera. >> brian: he also talked about getting rid of sanctuary cities and now the american public will rally around it and not give into litigation. >> it was so good. congratulations, lawrence, he loved idea so much is he going to be with byron donalds in a barber shop. >> lawrence: going to go to another barber shop. last part of our series. we went to atl. we have more of the interview with the former president. >> brian: former president trump will tour the damage after the big hurricane.ive don't move i'm thinking company wide power nap.

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have been documenting the damage and say it is so much worse than people realize. weaverville, mourning in resident matt van swalwell and eric durham join us now. thank you all so much for joining us this morning. i know you are taking a break from doing some of that much needed work on the ground. you told our producers that the -- >> good morning. that the devastation is much more severe than people think. i saw that on the ground, too. >> yeah. it's -- it's so much worse than people think. and that's the reason we have been shooting airline footage i have been on the ground filming. posting on instagram and x just trying to get the world out there even from the very beginning to now there are people that are still having a hard time getting out. people don't have internet. people don't have clean water. when i have meetings outside of state, people are really confused why we look

dissheffield and why -- disheveled. people don't realize half of our town is gob. i don't remember the businesses crazy amount of businesses, over 80% of the river arts district businesses are gone so it's a travesty for small businesses but also for families. >> lawrence: it's so true. matt, when i was on the ground, i asked folks about the federal response. the feds say they are there and they are moving but when i talk with people there on the ground, they told me they are not seeing them. what are you hearing? i would say that's pretty accurate i haven't seen fema personally around. i have been told they are here. but, i mean, i personally haven't seen them. the federal response has been confusing, i think neats best word i can think of to use. you know, there is some people get some money from fema. some people don't get any money

from fema. we got, you know, of the $750 check in the mail, which was great. but we also spent, you know, thousands of dollars on generators and gas and star link and all that stuff. so i mean it barely put a dent in what we had to cover. >> lawrence: erin, what did do you all need right now? i don't think people understand how bad it is there. >> yeah. i mean i think the biggest thing we can say, you know, thank you for the exposure. i think the exposure is the biggest thing we need. we need people to understand what is going on. and, you know, anyone who wants to help out, with the fund. >> the always asheville fund. can you donate to beloved. you can donate to manna food bank. i know channing tatum was here yesterday with that you can come and help. can you bring supplies. you can just share what's going

on. >> southerners are typically very proud people. they don't want you to help. our kids are tenth generation north carolinians. we know that very well. always someone who needs it more. in reality we all need it. >> lawrence: so true. we have -- tourism is a major backbone of our community. there is 30,000 tourism employees here. the built more is opening back up november 2nd so, we're just hoping people will come and come with some elm peats and come with donations because it's going to look different but we really need the love people typically bring asheville. lawrence i will tell you we are praying for you all and. >> thank you so much. >> you are not forgotten. i know our friends at samaritan's purse are on the ground as well. i hope to get update from you soon. thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> thank you. have a good morning.

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the middle east israel has been bombing a few locations in southern lebanon that it identifies as hezbollah linked sites. the idf says it is using precision targeting and notice to the advance notice. u.s. secretary of state antony blinken is scheduled to visit israel and middle eastern countries beginning today. we will keep you updated on that visit. brian? >> brian: it's amazing what is going on. at least two war fronts. thanks so much matt finn and we still don't know how that leak became a leak. virginia governor, you know him, is once again hitting back at the belt department of justice's lawsuits against his state's election reform laws. after he removed non-citizens from voter rolls. >> this is not a purge. it is not systematic. it is individualized. and it starts with someone identifying as a non-citizen and then ending up on our voter rolls as i said purpose gli or by accident. the question is how can we as a nation and how can i as a

governor allow non-citizens to be on the voter roll? this is just not right. it's not just constitutionally correct. it's common sense. >> brian: there are 16 states that don't need voter ids who know what is going to happen? here to react is fox news legal analyst gregg jarrett. he seems legitimately exasperated that he is being sued by the department of justice for doing. this your thoughts? >> look. non-citizens cannot vote in federal and state elections. that's the law. supreme court precedent. can you actually read it on the u.s. government website. so virginia is simply enforcing its own companion law that requires the state to remove non-citizens from the voter rolls. perfectly logical merrick garland is suing to stop it citing erroneously, i think, a federal law even though the doj previously approved virginia's statute as lawful. virginia is not doing a systemic

review as the governor pointed out. individual ones instead. and that is not prohibited. that it once again merrick garland's actions seem to be another example of a politicized doj. they didn't sue virginia when there was a democratic governor. but now that there is a republican one, the doj sues. >> brian: gregg, the other thing i want to ask you about is elon musk. as you know is all in for trump. i want you to register to vote. that was the message when he gotten on the stump. on his own posting this on x. all you need to do is sign the person petition and support the constitutional rights to free speech and bear arms. to say have a daily chance of winning $1 million. you can be from any or no political party. and you don't even have to vote. he wants you to register. >> right. >> governor shapiro came out and said wait a second. i think i have a problem with it. i'm not too sure that doesn't need to be investigated. is there a problem with this? >> no, i don't think there is.

this is not cash for votes, which is illegal. it's called bribery. now, some are accusing musk of incentivizing people to register to vote and that's sort of walks a fine line. although in his defense. >> the benefits likely go to people who have already registered to vote. i don't think it's illegal. is it much different, brian, than kamala harris last week offering black men millions in forgivable loans which are gifts, that's racially discriminatory, of course. and likely unconstitutional. but, more than that, it's just blatant pandering for votes. dangling promises of cash that you will never be able to deliver on. so, you know, this is politics, and there's, unfortunately, a long tradition of sort of dancing along the fine line. >> brian: gregg, if you look at some of the quotes, democrats can't figure out how they lost elon musk and freaking out by

his power. senator fetterman came out and said modern day tony stark. it's not that he is rich. things he does has young people excited and firmly in the trump camp. gregg, thanks so much. appreciate it. >> my pleasure, brian. >> brian: straight ahead. a "fox & friends" exclusive. former president trump outlines his no taxes on tips agenda as he joins lawrence's barbershop talk series this stop in the bronx. >> not tax on tips. about the overtime that's a great one. >> overtime is great. >> you have a lot of people now stuck working numerous part time jobs right now. >> working two jobs. sometimes three jobs. and making less than they did five years ago. >> absolutely. [sniff] still fresh. still fresh! ♪ with downy unstopables, you just toss, wash, wow. for all-day freshness.

>> janice: good morning, everyone. i have got my friends with you. what's your name? >> steve, lynn, ken bra. consider where are from you. >> texas. >> eric. where are you from. >> florida. >> where are you from. >> ohio. >> and you have exciting event coming up. >> to the grandchild being born. >> janice: that's amazing. [ applause ] , everyone. that's amazing. take a look at new york. it's a beautiful day for celebration. also we had oscar over the weekend. that was a hurricane, moving north and eastward. not going to hurt anybody anymore. that's a good thing across the country. showers and thunderstorms for the central u.s. and the

northwest. but, otherwise, a spectacular forecast. 80 here in new york. are you excited about that? >> yes. >> so mornings are -- >> better with friends. >> janice: we didn't rehearse that at all, did we? do you want to say hi to ainsley? >> hi. >> hi. >> janice: give ainsley a big wave. >> i love them. tell that cute little lady on the end congratulations. 20 grandchildren. >> janice: they are doing good. >> ainsley: thank you so much. >> janice: you got it. >> ainsley: healthcare is at the top of our minds at least for many voters this election season with many struggling to keep up with all the costs. so, what are trump and harris' plans to improve america's healthcare system in fox news senior medical analyst dr. marc siegel is here with the different policies. good morning to you, dr. siegel. >> great to see you. >> ainsley: perfect person to tell us which one you think is perfect for the patients and voters. tell us if you can about each of their plans. >> they are not fully fleshed out yet. either one.

there is a fundamental philosophical difference. we spend $4 trillion a year this country for healthcare costs. most of it is disease oriented for people with chronic illness, people toward the end of life, people get really sick. waiting lines are increasing. we are spending three times more in prescription drugs than any other country that's strilgized will industrialized. we start life with exceptions. given how much we spend on healthcare our life is shorter than other wealthy countries. >> that's shocking, this is america. >> our system is broken. medicaid and medicare about $1.5 trillion a year. the philosophical approach is very, very different. kamala harris basically wants to extend coverage. so more americans are covered. there is about 26 million americans that are still not covered. it hasn't really increased through the pandemic and after. it's about 26 million still not covered. trump's idea and vance's idea is two fold.

one, to increase private solutions. more competition, more innovation. focus also on prevention, losing weight. getting rid of ultra processed foods. make america healthy again. that's them. they want more transparency. more transparency and drug prices. and again, more competition. the problem with extending coverage under harris' plan is that you -- potential plan, is that you may not get the doctor you seek. the obamacare elks changes have narrow network of physicians, high deductible. so it may promise you care. but you may not actually get. >> ainsley: might have to wait in line a long time. especially if she does medicare for all. we have seen this in canada and europe and whether a that means. you could have cancer but you can't get in with the doctor for month and months. >> that's actually starting to happen here already where waiting lines are increasing. you were looking at this just before the segment, people are delaying care because of the out-of-pocket costs. so we got to get rid of the

middleman, the pharmacy benefit managers. definitely have to get drug price down. i will tell what you i'm most concerned about in terms of extending coverage. there is no recognition that we're happily heading toward a time of great innovation. our official intelligence, personalized solutions really expensive. >> how will that help with medicine. >> take the tumor out, reengineer it and put it back in, is $450,000 a treatment. how is obamacare going to cover that or even medicare? they are not. >> ainsley: very scary when you think about so many people can't afford their drugs. can't afford medical care for their children. it's so expensive. >> harris putting a cap insulin out-of-pocket cost $35 a month. and drug costs $2,000 a year. again, the drug companies are looking at innovation where are they going to get the money to pay for all the research?

>> ainsley: dr. siegel, thank you so much for coming on. >> great to see you. >> ainsley: "fox & friends" exclusive more from former president trump and lawrence's barbershop talk at the top of the hour. ♪ he bragged he■d debate any time, anywhere. but now he's ducking kamala harris. he claims he's a master debater. but only offers excuses for not showing up again. and he squawks about all sorts of things. but doesn't want to answer for his huge tax cuts for billionaires and corporations. donald trump says he■s not afraid of kamala. but if it looks like a duck,

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