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he has already talked about some key important issues to latino communities, taking questions. she told me they're flying them in from arizona and other parts of the united states to have all these business leaders and citizens in one place. it is wider than just the state of florida. it's another example of the former president's final sprint, his closing argument as you will often hear me say to win over a key minority voters with just two weeks till election day. his opponent -- trying to do the same thing. she is off the campaign trail today. this particular vo voting bloc, trump doing it at a live event right now. we will bring you more as it's happening on "outnumbered," but we want to dissect already some

of what's going on. you are watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner with my cohosts emily compagno and kayleigh mcenany. joining us today, kennedy, host of the "kennedy saves the world" podcast, and guy benson, fox news contributor and host of "the guy benson show" on fox news radio. this is a great point with exactly 14 days to go. there's not a lot of room for error. there is room for courting. >> that's what you see president trump doing. usa today had a poll that showed him plus 11 with latinos. it's a bit of an outlier. a fox news poll still shows kamala harris ahead, i'll be up much smaller margin than democrats won in the last cycle. this is president trump saying "come to me, trust me on immigration," latinos support president trump at the fox poll on the issue. when we add this to what we are seeing with black voters, it's a president that is remaking the

republican party. should these polling numbers materialize into votes? i cannot believe when i saw a reuters poll that one in four black men under the age of 50 support president trump. that's huge strides from a party that won 5% of black men in 2008. he's made at the party of diversity, of the working man with his working man's economic agenda. no one would have predicted that, no less the media, in 2016 when he came down the golden escalator and they derided him as a racist, xenophobe, all the things. >> real quickly, part of what this former president delivered that many black men, may be over the age of 25 will remember because they were already in the workforce was that historic low unemployment. trump was present for three years-plus before the pandemic. about the same amount of time of exposure to that economy. >> i will never forget being on air force one, a "wall street journal" editorial popped, it said black men gained with their wages more than white

people in this country. it's a reversal of what typically happens. $4,300 in one year added to the paycheck. the people that made the most gains were black, latinos, nonwhite voters who have not historically seen this type of gains. >> we've heard some the questioners who are in the room end. many of them are businessmen and women. what is the critical point that may be a nexus. you have the economy being talked about. anything else you see from watching it? >> clearly, the economy is the focus. to kayleigh's point, what term can say is not just "here's what i would do." people can recall his four years as president. it's a big advantage he has this time that he did not have in 2020, because we were overwhelmed by the pandemic, and that was the number one issue. certainly in 2016, he was a blank slate. fortunately for him, most americans look back with a sunny impression of the four years he was in office, on the economy.

includes people across racial demographics. if trump wins the hispanic vote by 11 points, the election is over and he wins. one demographic after another, latinos, black voters, a new poll today of arab american voters, you are seeing the margins come down for democrats with trump improving across multiple groups. the question becomes if that's all borne out, in reality, where did she make up those votes? that's very much an open question. are there enough women in the suburbs? i don't k know how the math wors for them if that's true. >> part of the reason why you would see him do on all women town hall. i want to get to the arab vote with you, kennedy. i'm wondering with what's going on and a call for cease-fire, have you noticed in the last day or so her big push for that? and of course now that another

leader with hamas has been annihilated by israel, there might be some ground to do a temporary one. we don't know. talking foreign policy. >> strategy shifts for her. didn't have this strategy to begin with. number one is he is listening and has been listening. he was listening before 2016 and really leaned into these economic policies. entrepreneurs across the country who really underserved. now he's just jostling their memories. he's listening to them and what they need. they are also reconnecting about -- they want to be unburdened by what has been during the biden administration with regulations, taxes, and

economic environment that punishes everybody and every community. if you are talking about do you remember when your company was making money, do you remember when you can get a loan, do you remember and you could pay your employees more in charge less to your customers? believe me, business owners of every stripe remember that. that's what he is leaning into with these latino voters. >> it's interesting. when you talk with many latinos, as our black americans in those urban areas that have really been hit by crime. the economy drives some of that too took resources with illegal immigrants and those blue cities and states. your thoughts on that? >> great question, great point. i want to focus on the black vote for a second. it's a laughable and offensive approach that i think kamala harris has taken. she came out with her policy just now to help black men meet their full ambition, as "the new york post" described it it's a weird mix of the blatant

unconstitutional, seemingly racist, and totally irrelevant. you contrast that with what you're talking about where with trump's policies that lifted up all americans -- that's the whole point. jones had his barbershop meet and greets, connecting with voters there. one in particular stuck out to me. said "i'm an entrepreneur, a father, a grandfather, i want what's best for my kids and grandkids ten years from now." the voters said -- i'm paraphrasing -- "we have enough crises in the country. i'm attracted to the policies of keeping jobs here, and most important job security." enter vice president kamala harris who says "i'm going to give $20,000 to black male entrepreneurs." plainly unconstitutional, scotus has struck down the language, said they will particular lift up black men in the marijuana industry making a massive association. i think the third one was one of the funniest. tossed into the plan with a

vowel to protect cryptocurrency investments. please tell me how you can do that. last time i checked, that would be market price fixing and totally illegal also. it is so disconnected. it's out of left field and to me it is -- the desperation she is feeling because it's not based on actual connection and not based on actual american -- >> let's talk a little bit about the marijuana connection and the marginalization that happens. >> i don't have any, for the record. [laughter] >> it's not a pocket check to today. >> very good. >> what i'm saying is it marginalizes and brings up the old tropes of only black men do we do, and certainly you can reach black men with that, or potentially even black women. what in the world does she think -- how does she think that works? >> it's and clearly condescending. if you talk to suburban white women, they are doing a special cocktail of ozempic and

marijuana edibles. the line of thinking is racist. >> true. >> finally. >> in new york, they tried to do the same thing, saying "we will only give licenses to dispensaries for women and people of color. everyone else to the back of the line." what happened in new york city? you had a proliferation of illegal pot shops. so many that the entire city has been oversaturated with illegal pot shops running as if they are legitimate businesses, but the people of color and women doing their best to follow the rules are getting hosed there aren't enough licenses. it may be illegal, this program to begin with, and the black market has consumed them so they can't make money. >> setting aside some of the specifics of the policies and bullet points that put out on this program for black men, i think they said they had a brandon new one for latinos today that they put out. we are two weeks from election. the last one was what, last

week? if they're shoveling anything at the door with a few weeks left, that to me as a signal about how they're feeling internally. >> trying to distance herself from biden. >> two words for you: al gore, bill clinton. that's four words. when you distance yourself from someone who in many areas was running much higher, plus eight in some communities, and you are down by two, and you look at where biden was with black and latino voters and where she is now too, i don't know that you want to punch ahead of you. i don't think you should be punching out. i'm confused why she suddenly distancing when she was in the room. isn't that what they always tell us? she was the last one in the room with all the big decisions that impact our lives that are happening? >> this is a party now, she counts on one group: white women. that's what she needs. i just ask you, who would have thought we would be here in 2024 were democrats are the party of white women and republicans are the party of latinos, black, and

working-class? donald trump has shifted this party. >> today, they are on opposite ends of the spectrum and how to reach audiences. donald trump is on the trail. this is not a rally: this is a latino group of people who have come from across the country, many of them latino business leaders, and they are in the room with a former president. he's taking questions, answering questions. we will have more of that for you because we want to share it. the other optic is what's going to happen later at telemundo when the taped -- vice president kamala harris is now getting ready for. as trump said, he said "do you need all day to get ready for this room?" we will see. we are covering it. let's move to this: fani willis, remember her? her lover nathan wade stunningly admitted to congress about the trump prosecution. oh, the behind-the-scenes.

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>> former georgia special prosecutor nathan wade is admitting to sever meetings with white house officials during his time on the stage trump case. that's coming from a newly released a transcript of deposition on capitol hill last week. wade resigned from the trump pro in march after his romantic relationship with the fulton county d.a. came to life. me -- mike emanuel is life. >> nathan wade's memory was fuzzy. he was asked "did the interview with d.c. white house to your recollection involve anyone from the department of justice?" the answer "i don't recall."

on another matter, he was more clear when asked "did anyone in the white house direct you, or to your knowledge, or anyone else in the fulton county district attorney's office filed charges against donald trump?" answered, "no, ma'am." wade was on capitol hill when we could go for the questioning. in 2022, he billed for a meeting for the white house counsel's office at his hourly meeting of $250. when asked, he could not detail the purpose of the meeting. he used some version of "i don't recall" more than 30 times when questioned by lawmakers and staff during closed tour dominik kohr testimony. his 2022 washington visit -- is said to sound very political. >> the whole thing with nathan wade. taxpayer money going to nathan wade. he was traveling to washington to meet with the doj, the white house, the january 6th committee, all in this effort to go after president trump. >> wade left the trump case wite

to his romantic relationship with the d.a. county -- noting the risk of harming ongoing legal proceedings. the newly released transcript, wade met with biden administration staff on two occasions while looking into former president trump. >> what are voters to make of this? >> it's interesting. they are both so very different. you've got fani willis and them, and the only two things they had in common was takedown trump. they try a not so sure that the justice department shouldn't have jumped in here early and taken a real good look. is this happening in other places around the country? with him bringing forth information so late in the game, why didn't we know this before, and why is everything always right before an election? it's important to know what's going on, but -- is that truthful? it looks like it was, in fact.

looks like we could have used these a while ago. wise the doj involved? this is a presidential candidate this have to do with which by the way, we would not get that attention from the doj, but since som to -- soon somebody was running for the country? >> there were receipts. he said he doesn't know why he's having the meetings. "i billed for it but can't articulate why it was there." the question is is it incompetence, fraud, and is a travesty of the justice system? this is a presidential cand candidate. it's unacceptable. >> so many questions. nathan wade, i'm not in his head thankfully, but nathan wade, you have this may 2022 meeting with the white house. build $250 per hour and you don't know what the meeting is about. you don't have a record. you notice. when you have billable hours, you write with some level of

specificity what you did during the hour. it's not just trip to d.c., pay me x number of dollars, it is to discuss x, y, or z. he didn't keep detailed notes it seems. this is a local georgia prosecutor. i did this at the federal level when i was outside of the white house was working on the campaign. you remember why you meet with the white house. it's a huge deal and for local georgia prosecutor, this is a massive deal, but has memory evades him. our member taylen collins, a consultant had to step in and stop him from answering something. he comes back nodding his head, and i don't know why he doesn't have memory of this. >> your point about the billing, specificity is required for ethics reasons. you don't just say "meeting," you have to within 30 days specify exactly to the sixth of a minute or of a quarter hour what exactly were you doing.

we also know that he had to take a racketeering class. the caliber of dealing with a presidential candidate to me seems shocking that you would pull in an attorney on -- that knows what to do. >> there were a couple of issues that struck me. it was the fact that he had such a hard time with his memory but could remember to the; what was done in the billable hours notes but couldn't remember if you went to the white house. i remember when i went. it was the summer before my senior year. i was in choir. george h.w. bush landed on marine one and we all sing "the star-spangled banner." it's one of my best memories of my entire childhood. i remember that. he would appear come word he has to go see joe biden's alzheimer's specialist if he is having such a difficult time remembering these massive events in his career. also, why did it take four

years? these two, who have much more complex cases, will see the inside of a courtroom sooner than this present. >> that's right. i'm sorry, this is sniffing of a lot worse things. >> i don't think -- this guy, i don't think with all due respect to nathan wade, i don't think he had many appointments over the course of his career. now he shows up in the middle of this political snafu, and his memory has gone blank about what was there? i don't think anyone believes that. to this point, the whole theory of this case around going after and prosecuting donald trump in the state of georgia requires a whole complex ricoh prosecution, this man had literal no experience in that realm.

remedial ricoh school to run a case against the former president of the united states? and they did this because he was sleeping with the d.a. what a mess. their x clinicians or lack thereof i think speak for themselves. >> so why was he at the white house? i understand the doj, but why go to the white house? if it's a georgia case and there are a federal aspects to the doj, but the white house seems like overtly political if he's meeting white house officials. >> it smells of a backroom deal. to your point, it is patently absurd for a local prosecutor to meet with them. the doj i could maybe see. "we want to work with you." even that is a stretch. i'm thinking outside the box. the white house, i have no idea. >> and james carville said it. "we've tried everything." i won't do the cussing. months ago, he was saying how we have tried everything, and nothing is sticking.

was there a coordinated effort? i think this is a treasure trove of evidence of the potentiality. we certainly know, as i said before, two liens can be true: the white house and is prosecutor. >> i'm not frequently embarrassed by my colleagues, but that type of behavior from these attorneys is a shame it. i think we will see some ethics accountability from the board as well. >> i hope so. >> coming up, vice president harris and the left are trying to convince voters that trump is a threat to democracy. you've heard of before, but the new poll that shows that that's not working. stay with us. inside an abandoned chicken coop. where our founder discovered a retired teacher living. no home. no health care. so she said no to this injustice and yes to transforming lives. it's this drive, this compassion that inspired aarp. today, we empower people to choose how they live as they age. as a wise friend and fierce defender, we advocate for better health, financial security,

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>> just two weeks until election day, hard to believe. democrats in the media are taking a page from their old playbook, ramping up the ante trump rhetoric, and comparing him to hitler and other dictators pier check out these recent headlines: "trump is

speaking like hitler, stalin, and mussolini," "trump's rhetoric is fascist and violence," and "trump is straight up talking like a nazi." those are real headlines from left-wing publications. irresponsible. here's the democrats are saying. >> i know it's a loaded word, but when you say you are going to be dictator on day 1, look up the definition of fascism, the characteristics of a dictator. authoritarian. this general said it himself. trump reinforced it himself. i don't think it's overstating. >> this is from the 1930s. this is hitler stuff. >> yes, he is an authoritarian figure. >> this general was quoted saying donald trump is fascist to the core. >> was driving harris to support this language publicly? >> it's the truth. it's what people believe. i think she wants the american people to take a hard look at

who she is running against him who could be in charge of the nuclear codes. >> he is an animalistic human being. >> don't risk it with this. this is dangerous talk. this is the talk of dictators. >> a really responsible effort. two assassination attempts. vice president harris, campaigning on the "trump is a threat to democracy" message. >> someone who suggests we should terminate the constitution of the united states should never again have the privilege of standing behind the seal of the president of the united states. never again! never again! never again! >> it appears that the joyful strategy is working. a new "washington post" poll found that more voters say trump will do a better job defending

democracy than harris. guy benson, we've had trump for four years. he did not try to pack the court. that is something the left wants to do. he did not weaponize the doj. that's what the bite and administration did with -- but we see in the left try to do this with president trump here. who was a threat to democracy? we know what trump is. >> first of all, for shouting, the pointing at it and that line, she has been delivering that verbatim with the same hand motions and intonation over and over. she likes that one. democrats went down this path in the midterms. a lot of people on the right ridiculed it. the speech biden gave with the red columns and all of it, a little apocalyptic. conservatives said it's ridiculous, voters aren't buying it because look at the economy, look at immigration. it worked fairly well for the democrats, especially with some of those suburban and moderate voters they were clearly targeting with it.

i would caution republicans, saying there is no need to response to this, or it will obviously be ineffective. not sure it's so obvious based on the midterm effect and what we saw, and the phenomenon. we are to go further years beyond january 6th, 2 more years of people being sick and fed up with what biden-harris have done with their leadership. i wonder, maybe as the impact of that argument diminished compared to 2022? >> that's a good cautionary tale. that maga speech i thought was nuts -- but a good word of warning. going back to hitler, mussolini, fascism, this line it stands out to me from the u.s. secret service report, but the secret service as an agency requires a fundamental perform to carry out its mission. without that, the independent review panel believes another butler can and will happen. another butler can and will happen, so let's call this guy hitler. >> i think what you said quickly earlier hit the nail on the

head. the attempted assassinations on the former president, appalling does not begin to cover it. this rhetoric starts that fire. we know there is a direct correlation between rhetoric and people's behavior. immediately in the aftermath, there was a moment of unity against political violence and more portly against that rhetoric. for some reason it came roaring back tenfold. for them to invoke this stale playbook chapter, i agree, of equating him to the nazis, when the irony to me a come of disgusting irony as this pastor points out, this playbook is from the era, but the democrats whose narratives control the media, whose narratives have been controlling the youth in a way that is frightening. you are right that they are relying on this totally -- narrative. they are ignoring the american people's needs, ignoring the policies that would lift them up, and hoping the hail mary of equating this human, this

dignified wonderful gentleman -- and so much more, that that will work, when all it will do is stoke the flames further for political violence. it's reprehensible. >> on the show yesterday we watched trump speak about helene and spoke to voters in north carolina. we just watched him speak to latino voters. you don't see what they are saying is caricature. >> this makes me doubt that she was an effective prosecutor, if -- putting black men behind bars for marijuana and now she's trying to make good with marijuana as part of her platform to win blackman. it's confusing. i'm also confused about the laugh, i guess that wasn't real. the joy of the dnc i guess wasn't real. the anger is palpable. is that real? yes. that anger, hate is not about policy: it's about a human being. if people want to stay in that space, it's sick for this country. be careful what you ask for.

we've got a man who has faced two assassination attempts. biden declared an act of war if iran keeps going after trump. notice he didn't say both candidates, he said only trump. is it because he knows how deep the threats are against trump, or maybe he sees that this is only going to go for one side, our site is safe? i don't care what it is: it's not right to put somebody literally in the crosshairs. >> kennedy. >> i wish -- would you some of that fiery rhetoric and go to places like columbia and ucla. she is saying "never again," why aren't you going to some of the pro-palestine, pro-hamas protesters and saying that to them? wire and you reminding them hug dangerous and deadly hitler's rhetoric was especially when put into action? where was that fire? where was that conviction? she only deploys it when it's absolutely convenient, and frankly, it's offensive. also when you get you get whoopi goldberg saying trump is

like a bug, and biden slams his hand on the view desk as though to squash the bug after two assassination attempts, and they've got the moral high ground here? they have undermined their own argument. >> they don't have a history of some about the jews calling them termites like farrakhan and others. is there not a history when -- an insect in regards to a jewish person? >> you heard the other commentators say it feral animal, dehumanizing terminology. coming up, why democrats are distancing themselves from vp harris and instead promoting their ties to former president trump. ryone, our missn is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. yay - woo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. (♪) you know that thing your family does? someone made it a thing, back in the day. but where did it come from?

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>> some congressional democrats are now doing the absolute unthinkable before election day, bragging about their ties to former president trump. wisconsin senator tammy baldwin, senator bob casey, and michigan congresswoman, all voted to impeach trump during his presidency. they are tailoring their final election messages to showcase their connection to the former president. i thought he was such a former threat to democracy. the senator even released this. >> put tariffs on china that stop them from cheating. in this house, we agree. it's bob casey doing right by pennsylvania. >> on bob casey, definitely approve this message. [laughter] >> he definitely approves. i spoke with bob casey's opponent dave mccormick in pennsylvania, and i asked why he is tethering himself to trump on this policy at least. here is what he said.

>> what's happening here as i think democrats are recognizing that at least in pennsylvania, joe biden would have been a better candidate than kamala harris. he was frightened joe, relationships. kamala harris is a san francisco liberal out of touch with pennsylvania. band fracking, defund the police, mandatory buybacks. president trump is gaining real momentum. he is in the lead and gaining. >> trump is in the lead, internal polling. >> we were talking about that last night on g -- it's obviously different from the polling uc for fox news, "the new york times," abc, cnn, the other places. i'm more curious what the internal polling shows. i think internal numbers are really bad. if you ran that ad, took out the

candidates name, and ran it generically for a republican senator, it would work in about every state of the union. that has to show you that this is, for voters, a campaign of ideas. it's not just about personalities. it is -- they want to know "how will my life and prove?" is singing from the republican hymn book right now. >> before he came to eric, i saw this article in the hill. tammy baldwin, spokesperson, was asked a question by the hill. here's how they responded. the aide noted baldwin is working with trump's running mate j.d. vance and senior g.o.p. senator chuck grassley. right now, working with republican vice president nominee j.d. vance on a bill that would help our made in america economy appeared she is in wisconsin. terms leading in every single average of swing states narrowly, within the margin of error, but to me this is indicative of something. when you see these democrats tying themselves to trump, publicly saying "we are with

j.d. vance on this is also." >> a senator and person who wants to be center who voted 98-100% of the time of their party and address grasping to find one or two tiny examples they can cite to maybe undecided voters to say "i'm independent, bipartisan, willing to work with anyone including donald trump," credentials i have not earned in terms of real independence. i view this as a hedge. clearly the internal polling is showing them something. they are trying to think about ticket splitters. they are thinking of someone might be voting for trump, "i might need that vote anyway so here's how i will try to appeal to them last minute," and it is very last minute. >> chose the blood red maga language. >> you will wear the t-shirt of the other guy if it will help you win. you are brilliant on the point of the split ticket.

we mentioned this earlier with bush-gora. down to get people made a calculation "what if i vote for the other guy but with my conscience i can make it by voting democrat the rest of the way?" i think you're seeing it in the reverse and i don't think we have a good beat when people are being polled for these things because we can't see, as kennedy pointed out, the intent internal versus what's public. what's the interpretation of that? is it that kamala harris is doing worse in places or doing just simply worse than biden? if that's the case even, it means there is undecided voter there may be that they can both go for. i don't know if the closing argument should be "i hate that guy," but interpreting what they are seeing behind the scenes. kennedy is right. we probably won't know it's internal, but what do they think about what they are seeing? >> i viewed it cynically. i viewed it as a name grabbing attention -- it reminded me frankly of when joe biden ran, where he said he would be a

great unifier, and then he went back to being divisive, especially with his rhetoric. i see it as a grasp and potentially a mutiny. as we know, the entire democratic party has been staunch in that drawing the line that trump is hitler and the world is going to explode if he wins, yet we have people saying "we are working together," so if it's truly based on the ideas and policies that will benefit the american people, i will commit. however, i simply view it as a shtick and a distasteful one. >> in her survey says that americans are breaking up over policies. welcome to ameriprise. i'm sam morrison. my brother max recommended you. so, my best friend sophie says you've been a huge help. at ameriprise financial, more than 9 out of 10 of our clients are likely to recommend us. our neighbors, the garcía's, love working with you. because the advice we give is personalized,

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and me as "america reports" at the top of the hour. ♪ ♪ >> emily: it is too late. the latest cause for breakups in the united states has been revealed. it is politics. according to a new survey, 5,000 people, one in six americans have considered ending the relationship because of political differences. now over half say they refuse to date someone who does not share their views. one-third of those surveyed even have a problem with a partner who does not care at all, saying if their significant other has no opinion on major issues, then that's a deal breaker. kennedy. >> kennedy: i don't see how anyone hooks up and gets together in this culture. because women are going with kamala, and men are going with

trump. >> emily: line in the sand, now not even caring is enough, thanksgiving you don't want to have thanksgiving with your relatives if they feel differently. now we are learning if -- that's apathetic, you need them in the streets rallying with you and attending the protest, and attending the rallies. >> kayleigh: burning. >> that sounds kind of exhausting. if you're considering a breakup because of politics, that's an excuse. if everything else is wonderful in the relationship is healthy but you have a disagreement on politics or issues, you are not breaking up. so i think that that's maybe something people are projecting their other problems on two. in my household, we generally agree, he does not care that much. but we are on the same side. he does not want to argue about it or talk about it. i find that delightful. especially after talking about it all day long. let's do something else and watch hdtv or something. >> emily: that sounds amazing. i agree, it's their ruse under

the trump derangement syndrome, probably baked into an assumption rather than true politics, because if your values are the same which most americans share and we want everyone to be safe and loved and the like, than what should it matter if someone once your tax dollars to pay for something more? the vitriol comes from the derangement syndrome. >> kayleigh: i understand the people who say that i want to be married to someone like-minded. their politics are an extension of their worldview, their faith, if you are pro-life voter, i get that, what bothers me are the surveys of people who cannot be friends across the aisle. i have republican friends, i have democrat friends. and when i read carnegie saying that they are chronically permissive levels of polarization in the country is a problem. you need to be able to speak to the other side. maybe not marry them, but you need to speak and have friends. >> harris: ability. because not being able to have friends with somebody means you can't show them civility. i always think debating a, but i am a weird journalist. i like to debate and i love that

kind of stuff. been married 21 years and we debate all the time. where are we going? >> you said debate is. >> harris: call it a counterpoint. i'm not sure if that was nefarious. >> just a debate. >> emily: in our household, we serve the lord, and that commonality is fundamental, from there are, however i will say this, i'm making it sound like of course -- at the end of the day i think it would be so shocked if someone voted with certain policies, now maybe i do understand. >> harris: i think it's healthy to be able to debate about stuff. but we agree on the important things as emily is pointing out. >> kennedy: i have more of an issue with a dodgers fan, frankly. >> harris: i'm a kansas city fan, so i just a quiet. >> emily: at the end of the day i guess sports trumps all.

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>> harris: we are monitoring a lot of breaking news coming up, some events we want to keep our eye on. at any moment the state department is said to hold a press briefing and then the pentagon will hold a briefing of its own. why are we listening for this? pay attention. any news that could come about the alleged leak of classified israeli attack plans. in retaliation for iran. and over on the campaign trail, minnesota governor tim walz and barack obama are said to hold a rally in detroit at 3:45:00 p.m. eastern. j.d. vance, republican candidate for vp will speak at 4:00 p.m. eastern. and president trump is is set to hold a rally at 7:00 p.m. remember he has a business roundtable, the latino roundtable in miami and then north america wi