resonates. lisa. america is at a crossroads. america needs saving and donald trump is the man to save america. all right. you know, i think the campaign is all about common sense. they made the case for common sense tonight. he obviously also loves new york. and it was a fun thing. it was a fun rally. and fun campaigns are usually winning campaigns. some would say joyful, joyful and formally joyful campaigns that are no longer joyful are usually not joyful for a reason. yeah. you know, an incredible historical night. donald trump pointed out that early voting is underway and all of the swing states. so the timing of this is pretty significant. that does it for us. thanks for joining us. a quick reminder to always dvr the big weekend show. you can catch it. live. life, liberty and levin starts now. i got you, babe. i got you, babe

>> definitely been able to turn this from a race that was harris on the upswing in the momentum with her in the momentum is not just told and is not been able to narrow the gap. >> michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, the great lakes, the blue wall joe biden last time around one by five points over donald trump. look at where we are today, this is the movement that donald trump likes to see in the center of the electorate up by a point. >> coin toss rather be him then her but because he is the lead on the economy, inflation in the border, this is tied. it's a tossup. >> good evening, thank you for joining us i am trey gowdy. it is "sunday night in america". kamala harris in donald trump are giving closing arguments and a razor thin race for president. of course what looks razor thin could turn into an electoral landslide if all of the swing

states swing together, millions about whatever you been cast. what does that mean in who does it benefit. sean trende is with real clear politics and he joins us now, welcome sean thank you for being here, the sense among some trump is surging and harris might be waning, is accurate or wishful thinking among republicans. >> i think that is certainly what we see in the polling data that we have. donald trump has closed the gap in the national poll average which is something that ever happened in 2016 or 2020 he's leading in the swing states now, this is definitely a race that is swinging his way whether that momentum continues is another story but so far the movement that he needed. trey: i am old enough to remember the 2022 midterms. i don't know if you remember those or not, it was supposed to be a red wave and it became a trickle because of a constellation of smaller issues

worn off against the major issues. are there issues that pollsters could be missing this time around that they are undercounting or are being represented in the polling. >> i would like to forget 2022 or at least the polls from their. it was a tough year. but look there is definitely things like the abortion-rights referendum in arizona and nevada that may bring extra polls on election day and there's a history of donald trump over performing his polls. a lot of his pollsters or supporters won't talk to pollsters, they don't want to talk to them and there's really nothing you can try to wait around it there's fancy statistical techniques but other than work in previous elections. your best bet to go with the pool averages with understanding that polling does have an art to it and some of the artist are wrong. >> what if anything could be

gleaned from early voting numbers other than the republicans have finally embraced an idea called early voting. >> the early voting numbers for republicans this cycle are absolutely off the chart. we've never seen anything like this with republicans leading in states like nevada and north carolina where they always trail in early voting. there is two interpretations of that. the first republicans are in for a very, very good year that the pollsters haven't picked up. the other interpretation, what you suggested, republicans this cycle have been emphasizing early voting, donald trump is not telling people not to vote early and perhaps was going on people who would normally vote on election day are just showing up early and republicans will have the early voting edge. my sense is a little bit of both. i think if you're republican you have to be excited about what you see in the early voting but

don't get carried away with it, we do have to know what happens on election day to really know how this is going to turn out. trey: before i let you go and because i have you for free for another minute perhaps, what is something you experts are looking at the somebody like me that is not a trained pollster would not be looking out over the next week or so. >> there's a couple of things that we are interested in. if donald trump is making the big gains, there has not been much polling done with a state like new mexico or virginia, the next tier state coming on the board would be, the other thing we want to know, this isn't necessarily a big surprise but how deep is donald trump support among hispanics and black voters really going to be this time around. if he eclipses 10% of the black vote or 40% of the hispanic vote

he will be historic high territory for republican in the post-civil rights era. a lot of narratives are going to have to be written if that does come to pass. >> i cannot imagine anybody not taking your call and talking to you but be that as it may am grateful that you talk to us tonight, thank you for sharing your wisdom with us. >> thank you. >> we have an opportunity before us to turn the page on the fear and the divisiveness that have characterized our politics for a decade because of donald trump. we have the ability to turn the page on the same old tired playbook. >> to begin by asking a very simple question, are you better off now than you were four years ago? >> i'm here with a message of hope for all americans, with

your vote in the selection i will and inflation. i will stop the invasion of criminals coming into our country and i will bring back the american dream. >> we've been a close race in a slight shift could result in one candidate ready the table where it could result in an electoral college tie. that's how many different variables are in play, the momentum vice president harris' once enjoyed seems gone, the joy republicans feel after the biden debacle is a faint memory is a brand-new race but the issues remain constant with the economy and jobs leading the way. >> we want to make sure you are able to bring manufacturing bike kamala harris did. >> we know donald trump lost more manufacturing jobs in any president in american history that is factual we brought those back and were leading on the new technologies. >> it looks like coach walsh was

reading out of the wrong playbook, where is the joy in getting something so wrong that cnn has to correct you. >> if you're going to say something factual it should be factual. this is not true that the term presidency lost more manufacturing jobs and any other presidency so trump does not have the record. >> meanwhile trump is fighting a familiar foe, former employees collecting book advances and yearning for media affection, former chief of staff john kelly level serious obligations which were immediately refuted by others, this race may calm down to a simple question, are you better off now than you were when trump was in office. most americans say no and they believe the country is headed in the wrong direction. he will they picked to drive the car. writing for the washington examiner and kevin walling a former biden here is sarah get, welcome to you both.

john kelly made serious allegations, why stay on as chief of staff. i know you well enough you would've resigned that day if your boss had said that, why wait years and on election eve for 3499 wherever books are sold you can read all about it. it seems a little contrived and commercial to me, what do you think? >> good evening i think if you have the fear of a boss that is that unpredictable that problematic with the truth is john kelly has said and he said that since leaving the trump administration this is not new from the four-star marine general that you try to stay on as long as you can to preserve this country which was one of the ingredients he had with rex tillerson and others based on the unstable elements coming from the oval office. i think of a man who served 40 years in uniform as a white house chief of staff who had a commitment to service of this

country into real fear of what donald trump was going to do at the wheel. >> i don't know i would call it out then and not wait on my book advance. kamala harris said the border was secure and she waited three years to push the senate bill and can't cite a single life that would've been saved that bill was passed. now she sound like a construction worker talking about building the wall, what happened? >> i think what happened was, she sees the circumstances have been because of the wall that has been open, the rising crime but also uncertainty in the impacts it is had on the communities where these illegal immigrants have settled into put a strain on community services, strain on cities and unpreparedness that these towns and cities across the country have had to face with the people

that lived there. there is also the fentanyl traffic that is come through and we see every year the devastating impact that is had on communities across the country. a long way of saying that she sees people had been impacted and it's not just republicans that have been impacted. she had to change her point of view. i think she could've done a better job of her litigating the reasons why she changed as opposed to coming through a spokesperson and i think the american people would have had and maybe listen more and maybe would've moved more voters towards her but it's one of the several issues that i would point to fracking because of the state that i live in that she has struggled to be authentic on issues she has changed her mind with.

trey: let's listen to her closing argument and i'll ask you about on the other side. >> to think donald trump is a fashion. >> yes, i do and i also believe the people who know him best on this subject should be trusted. trey: both candidates choose the f word or as word socialist insults usually don't persuade people but politics has become about ratification not persuasion. when harris says trump is a fascist or dental is reversed, what you're really saying your supporters are supporting a fascist, how is that persuasive to insult the supporters if you're trying to get people used to switch from this team to that team. it is insulting and may be funny to the base but it's not persuasive. >> i think it's a good point in the debate is not whether folks are going to choose between harris and trump i think it's a

matter of whether they will choose one of the two individuals or the couch to stay home and you see the vice president making this a closing argument and highlighting the words of john kelly that you just brought up, the works hundred words of mark meli to star generals to paint a picture of a second trump administration would look like because it's about getting out your base in the small universe of folks and you run for office many times and in south carolina there is not that many persuadable voters out there, it's really about getting your base out and both camps are painted the picture of what a second administration would look like and in this case a second trump were here is administration in order to john up there support. >> let me ask you about that before we go. it seems like kamala harris closing argument is tailored toward disaffected republicans, republicans of the past may have supported other presidential candidates. is that what you sense, she's

probably not a lot of republicans are former republicans to support her, is that her appeal, her closing argument to disaffected republicans? >> i think that's what she's trying to do. what her challenge in the closing message what tends to work best for voters is something aspirational. i'm going to take you to a better place and her and former president obama and first lady michelle obama had made this a very dark message of something very wicked of this way is coming. i don't know if that appeals to a persuasive voter looking to get across the finish line for harris who has challenges in thinking she is to left or they are unsure. i'm not quite certain that is the best message to take somebody over the finish line to

scare them about their opponent. maybe they have polling that shows something different but i find voters are turned off by that messaging. >> thank you so much for joining us on a sunday night. see you soon. coming up podcast are taking over the political world, why, ben domenech chon was turning politics upside down

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barstool sports in theo vaughn and andrew scholz and joe rogan. >> it is a repeat under creepy corrupt business and the media to a large extent ask as a propaganda for the democratic party. >> is not even believable. >> it is bizarre to watch in most young people after they grow aware of it, most boomers unfortunately read the newspapers and believe in cnn. >> vice president harris sat down with call her daddy in the breakfast club, why the change a longer format with different rules there is more risk, there is not a be for bad words or some people's podcast would be one long beep, could the podcast yours help pick the next president? joining us fox news contributor ben domenech, welcome. when did the change happen and more importantly why is it happening. >> it is great to be with you as always. i had to say, this is one of the

weird moments where i feel like a hipster because i won an award for podcasting all the way back in 2018 and given by andrew breitbart if you believe it or not i've been around this game for a little while. podcast allow for a lot more deep dive into what people think and inability to ask questions that you don't get traditional interviews and because of that is where the listener can judge a lot more, the authenticity or lack thereof of the candidates in question. that's what of the reasons donald trump has leaned into it so much because the contrast there is so significant. the gap between him and kamala harris, their ability to go back and forth on all these different things about themselves and to be authentic for an extended amount of time and not resort to the same talking points that we've heard on the trail i think that's a really good thing and i think it helped him a particularly helped him among

young men listening to these podcasting consume the contents of regularly. i think for the vice president it is also been an indictment of her, she said things on these podcast that have raised a lot of questions and had follow-on effects. i think they've not been a help for her in this moment. >> while you were an award-winning podcast recipient, i was actually in politics and i tell you what politicians don't want to do is talk for extended periods of time. we prefer press release, we don't want interviews. you can get in trouble on a podcast, the rules are different. politicians, the last thing they want to do is talk for extended periods of time and i guess to reach an audience that tv and newspapers don't.

>> the one exception to your role, is ted cruz, he can talk for apparently a very long time and does so on his own podcast with great success. it is a nightmare for campaign press people and the like who don't want to see you tied up in knots or asking trivia questions or things like that that will put you on the spot. i understand completely the aversion to it but i do think it is a beneficial event for us that more politicians especially politicians at the top level are seen this as they should participate as a good thing to show that they are authentic in their views and they have frankly the ability to handle those curveballs that you know, with extensive question. >> you have a very smart political mind, i'm going to pose this question to you democrats are wondering how kamala harris tied to donald

trump after january 6 after four indictments, they are scratching their heads. republicans are wondering how they are tied with the democrat who got exactly 0 delegates last time she ran for president. what is happening why is the race so close in your judgment? >> my judgment you can spend a billion dollars trying to build up kamala harris but it just won't work. it doesn't take what the american people the same way spending that amount of money used to take through ads in the campaign that we've seen her run and i also think frankly, the concern at the kitchen table concerns of a lot of americans outweigh a lot of the questions that people might have following january 6 and following the chaotic presidency that certainly donald trump has for portions of his tenure. in fact, what the people are seeing, we would rather have somebody in charge who we can have confidence in when it comes

to the economy, the border and intimidated americans and enemies around the world as opposed to somebody who frankly we don't know where she stands on a great number of issues and a way that gives us doubt. trey: ben domenech, thank you as always. see you soon. up next wisconsin could hold the key to the white house and the senate the polls show a dead heat in the badger state. the republican who could sway

♪. trey: welcome back to "sunday night in america". in 2020 joe biden carried wisconsin by a whisker before that it was trump but it was close. now kamala harris and donald trump are deadlocked, not just the race for president, incumbent democrat tammy baldwin is in a real fight, the economy is issue number one wisconsin has seen inflation grow dramatically since biden and harris took office, crime is also an issue especially in milwaukee what are the most dangerous cities in the world, crime is the highest tax of all of those least able to pay it or move away from it. will inner-city side of the sea progressive prosecutors are not really progressive at all they are just dangerous. baldwin are sparring over

abortion and immigration in wisconsin is a microcosm of the country what happens there might sway to branches of government, gop senate candidate joins us now. welcome, we noticed democrats trying to run towards the center, trying to convince folks that there moderate, tammy baldwin was never moderate not when i was in the house, she's always been liberal. howitzer attempted transformation going over in your state. she's always ran as a moderate even though she is one, two, three aggressive liberals she's been wrong on everything. she is behind things like this equality pushing guys to play in girl sports and go into girls bathrooms and locker rooms, she is supported giving illegal immigrants cash payments while our veterans are struggling and living on the street, she's been

wrong on literally every single issue, she voted that the iranian deal once but twice, you cannot get more wrong, by the way on top of all of that she is a fraud she's hypocritical she said she's ready to get wall street and yet she lives with her wall street executive who designs tax strategies for the uber wealthy and all you hear about tammy baldwin saying the wealthy had to pay their fair share, we're exposing her or who she is but i'm running on issues, the economy, crime in milwaukee as you talked about, talking about the open border. our state has been hit like every state every state is a border state, we are running hard, the momentum is on our side and i feel really good but nine days until the end. >> here is that a baldwin and i'll get you to respond to the other side of this clip.

>> he is trying to deflect from the fact that he largely is a california businessperson who has helicopter to enter wisconsin to run for and try to buy his said it in fordo and didn't see. >> it is a long helicopter ride from california, i think it would probably take a plane if i were you but i will let you respond, she said your california guy, thank goodness use all the wisdom to move into wisconsin. >> it is such a joke. i'm a fourth generation wisconsin i was born there and raised there and graduated east high school and went on to become a proud badger a uw badger grad. i live in the state of the hefty building whereby development company is on the hundredth block looking right at the state capital. i vote there and she is trying to distract, she is playing the game, look over here he is from california when she's really living in new york and is the

one who does not spending time at our state. when we did the debate i said simple said a baldwin easy to prove who really lives in our state is called a utility bill, i flipped up my utility bill and i said let's look at each other's utility bills for the last ten years, the fact that i am successful and own a company that had operations in california somehow makes me a californian. it's priceless and by the way i think you can tell by my accent i'm pretty much a wisconsin guy in a diehard packer fan. trey: i was going to get south georgia but i won't argue with you if you say wisconsin, you do not say like a californian. what is the best closing argument for donald trump to win in wisconsin and what is the one-vote cast by tammy baldwin the people in wisconsin should focus on.

>> i think it is economic issue and the open border issue. everybody has been hurt, real wages under president trump rose by 7.7%. under joe biden and, the hearsay decline by two-point to percent, that is a fact. every state has been a border state and we lost over 100,000 americans lashed year, 112,000 the year before the fentanyl poison that comes from china goes to the drug cartels in mexico and comes up over our southern border. president trump and i could stay on the issues and that's what i'm largely doing and as it pertains to senator baldwin she's voted for so many bad things, she voted for all the budget busting expenditures that ignited inflation and bankrupting our country. trey: thank you for joining us

on a sunday night. >> i hope everyone has a wonderful evening. >> you two. israel strikes iran and tehran transamerica are government officials and our allies. what will the new commander-in-chief do as americans head to the polls to pick a new

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trey: welcome back to "sunday night in america". israel finally responded to iran. they waited a while and plans will leak beforehand in the response proportional and will iran retaliate even though that country started the conflict. the threat of widespread war in the region is very real, it seems forever ago the old enemies were making peace in the region was quiet and came biden harris with the race of iran and all heck broke loose, american wrong on the backend and how and hamas started a war with hezbollah, the houthis in iran but israel gets lectures and threats to withhold weapons and plans leak. no wonder the fbi and d.o.j. is looking for whoever leaked the documents. wyoming senator john barrasso, welcome your out with a new op-ed arguing to bring trump

tough on iran policies back. and what prompted you to think the timing was important for that right now. >> what we had with biden hears is a complete failure of our foreign policy in weakness by the united states and the result are enemies are emboldened and they smell and they attack the weakness and we saw this with harris and she said she was the last one in the room and when biden pulled out of afghanistan we lost her state wrestling champion and in that one of the marines that was killed and is scolding and undermining israel and clearly the american people need to support israel and its one 100% justified and what they did was completely necessary, they have an iron will and acted with an iron fist. >> seven to usurp on foreign

relations, i was on house intel in the leaking of attack plans was not what happens among allies and ones that closed the u.s. and israel and is there an investigation to find out who and why it was done. >> there was an investigation we don't have the results yet and the republicans are really pushing for that, marco rubio the intel committee and others, we need to get to the bottom of this. we know that the democrats with the election coming up are really running scared because of what is happened with their anti-somatic wing, the people that are pro-hamas and i'm not sure who did the leaking but i think it was to undermine israel into undermine america's involvement in israel did absolutely everything they should've done with this attack that just occurred it was a three level attack to the missile-defense and where the missiles are being produced

indigo after the places where the drones are being produced, they took down the air defense and went after those i think that was a proportional response and will see what iran does and if you're smart they would do nothing. we know the people under the mullahs chant death to iran, death to america they want as all gone and it's so important as allies to stick with israel it i think what are the things that we've seen with this administration is why our friends no longer trust us and can rely on us because of the weakness of the biden hears administration we will get more on it if she's reelected and that's when did everything to make sure we get a republican senator, republican house and donald trump back in the white house. >> senator butts listen to the former president and i'll ask you about on the other side. >> nobody's done what i've done for israel. >> the single biggest thing, you want to know get out of the iran nuclear deal it was a disaster.

it was one other thing, the abraham according that was one of the most incredible things of all we would have peace in the middle east and we will closer to world war iii than we ever have been, think they were getting take care of everything and straighten out the world a little bit. >> what are the biggest challenges waiting on whoever wins is gaza, there has to be a plan for who's going to govern and administer gaza and hamas cannot be allowed to do it, israel does not want to do it. president trump were to call you and say how should i handle gaza what advice would you give him? >> i been with president trump twice in the last week. sunday night football and in texas talking about the border in the economy with regard to the video that you played with president trump, he brought iran to their knees by going after the oil that is the source of their wealth that is what funded

hamas in the first place and now what we had with joe biden he allowed the oil to be sold and a lot more money went into iran that's why iran had the body that's paid for hezbollah and hamas. in terms of gaza we have to absolutely make sure that hamas is a liquidated and cannot come back, so much money has gone prior to this to gaza and hamas has hijacked the money they should've gone for humanitarian efforts in president trump has done an interview about what he would like to see happen with gaza but no better what happens, hamas has to be completely eliminated before you're able to take the next step in gaza. >> senator i know you been crisscrossing the country not only on behalf of former president trump but also to make sure the gop retakes the senate, thank you for taking time out of your schedule in joining us on sunday night. if you understand vice president

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you criticize the wall. is a border wall stupid? >> well let's talk about do donald trump and the border wall, remember cor, donald trump said mexico would pay for it. >> you are doing a compromise bill that calls for 650 million that was earmarked under trump to still go to wall. >> i'm not afraid of good ideas where they occurred. >> life would be simpler if everything were not on tape, i don't think that anyone believes kamala harris that she wants a wall. the vollers fall for that, a new report claims hundreds of thousands of migrants are about to cross the border, anticipating a donald trump win. >> message to everyone illegal immigrant is also this, we will return you to your country of origin. not because you are all bad

people. but because you broke the law. and united states of america is founded on the rule of law. >> why were nearly 1 million cases dismissed or government failed to provide proper documentation that sounds sketchy to me, kamala harris says she wants a wall, but is really a welcome mat. joining us. jonathan fahey, when did kamala harris become past of freedom caucus and demand border wall. >> i think there june of this year. it is interesting, and remark. , i know you have been in politics for a long time. you know what politicians do, this basically switch in position is so drastic, what is important to know, not just that cham c kamala harris of the borde bore

border jar ander did ri derelict in her duties. so, this idea she has a change of heart or anything else is laughable, and another interesting thing, remember, there was money allocated from border wall and materials that this administration spent money to not build a border wall, this idea that somehow she will get, second and build a wall and be tough on border and protect american citizens ahead of the interest of illegal aliens, i really think is laughable at-this-point. >> i don't see anyone falling for that, but i've been surprised before, listen to former president barack obama. >> if rounding up and deporting millions of desperate people, many of them who are women and children, if that sant ser is the answer everything to, why is it number of

undoomundocumented immigrants basically said the same when he left office and took office. >> someone should told him that argument is not evoke rigvogue right now, the focus is on gangs, killers, rapists. >> we have gangs that we never heard of 4 years ago. the tran de la agua, i never heard of that game, but they are -- gang, that is the game we're they're playing, we'll round up all women and children and kick them out this administration is not even interested in rounding up convicted criminals. they put out a memo at beginning of their term saying you have to be convicted of an aggravated felon to be under the word of consideration for deportation, the idea just keeping women and children and criminals in we know from laken riley's killer

there were three instances where if people had been following the law, he would have been removed when he arrived and fleaftd n arrested in new york and dhs did not put a detain or him, that i want to change the subject and make it about beam going to schoolings -- about people going to the schools and rounding you of students, there are millions was convicted criminalses this administration will not do a single thing about they don'tn 't to do anything to discourage illegal aliens from coming into the country, they let them know that welcome mat mat is wide open, if they win we'll see a major push for amnesty, they already have but sort of formalize the ames amnesty, of 3 30 million that will be push if she is elected, people need to know this and how -- last

year 150 billion of tax dollars spent on illegal aliens and all other costs that harm average american, typically median home price more than elites or democratic party, the middle class. >> before i let you know, i want to focus on victims people who have been victimized or killed, harris said, is a border was secure, if that were true, why was senate border bill necessary? if it wasn't true, why did she wait three years to push for a bill, and can you name a single dead american that would still be alive had that bill passed in. >> purpose last question, no, this point there is many dead americans, that would still be alive if they followed the existing law, the border was never secure and they routine ly lied about it and toly about the since yeah,-- to lie

about the senate le legislation bill. it is worth nothing, we know that is pure election year politics, they hope that media will ride with this, they -- we were talking about flaws of bill its codifys about 2 million people coming ni in illegally. >> we'll see, jonathan fahey thank you for coining for joining us on a sunday night. >> thank you. >> thank you for spending part of your sunday with us, i hop you have a great week ahead, until next week you can find us on-line at gowdy america, good night from south carolina. i am shannon