albuquerque, new mexico. that is a state he lost by 11 points. you know what, he is talking to every voter as he crisscrosses the nation. here's there today set to take the mic at 2:00 p.m. eastern. 420 eastern, that's rather specific, vice president kamala harris is rallying in phoenix, arizona. both presidential candidates are set to hold rallies and battleground of that appeared on election night for a half days from now, because i'm counting by the hour, i will bring you the voters voices. my live studio audience will talk atop issues and tell is contemporaneously with everything going on that night what swayed them this election cycle. i can't wait for you to tune in for election coverage which happens all night long. martha and brett beginning tuesday at 6:00 p.m. eastern. thank you for being with us on outnumbered today. we treasure your viewership. "america reports" now. >> what i know is that they want a president of the united states who, as i say, we'll walk into

the oval office with a to-do list and not an enemies list. >> one of the things that worries me when i hear kamala harris speak as i hear a person who does not have strong or sincere views about what she actually wants to do. >> we are inside 120 hours to this election. but when do you get a chance in 120 hours to make a positive impact on future generations to come. >> our campaign is about bringing people together. people of very different and diverse backgrounds. around a common theme that is love of country. >> but if you think what is going on in the present moment in the united states of america is just a little too crazy and a little too weird, to use the democrats favorite word of this cycle, you have an opportunity to throw the bums out. >> john: closing arguments in full swing on the campaign trail as the candidates head west today. former president trump set to speak soon in blue leaning new mexico. that's part of his bid to be competitive beyond the battlegrounds. i am john roberts, welcome.

five days to go and welcome to your. >> sandra: is it only thursday? it's good to be here. >> john: feels like it should be saturday. >> it feels like it should be election day by now but we are counting down. i'm gillian turner and for sandra smith. after trump visits the land of enchantment, he and vice president harris will be in the western battleground states of arizona and nevada. both went to president biden in 2020 in the trump campaign sees them as big pickup opportunities as he is beginning to make roads with latino voters paired. >> john: we have an all-star lineup to take us through this over the next to our spirits be to fox team coverage for you. alicia acuna's is live in arizona where the vice president will hold a rally a few hours from now. >> john: and aishah hasnie live in henderson, nevada, all had a former president trump's rally there tonight. why is he going to new mexico which he lost by a lot in 2020? is. >> hey john. good to see you. great question. a question that a lot of folks have on their minds in these

final critical campaign hours and dates. even some local democrats in new mexico are wondering that and saying he is wasting his time by stopping over in that state and pollsters might even tell you that as well. but the campaign has a plan and a strategy and i talked with them yesterday about the new mexico stop and they say the former president is trying to court latinos hard right now. they are looking to expand the map and he is visiting a district that cares very deeply about the border. for them it all really make sense. we don't know if you will show up to any of these campaign events today wearing that orange safety vest we saw him in yesterday in green bay and he has been using the biden garbage, to connect with the everyday american. it is working for him while dumping on both biden and vice president harris. >> i think the comment made by both of them because there's really two of them about being garbage, may be 250 million people. they should not be talking.

if this is the deplorable for hillary and i think this is worse actually. for joe biden to make that statement, it's really a disgrace. >> he is on the offense. he is coming here in nevada next focusing on the surging cost of home ownership here. he will encourage early voting because tomorrow is the last day to do that in nevada. and then he wraps up his west coast swing and arizona. fox news power rankings suggest arizona might actually be his best battleground pickup. he has an edge in the majority of polls there and that does not exist for him or vp harris and any other swing state. back out here live in nevada. i want to show you. i was wondering about this all morning if people would show up, take his lead in those orange safety vests. we start bought it a guy back here and probably two or three other people. don't see as many as i thought i would see but maybe it is just taking a while for people to catch on because remember when everyone started wearing the patches on their ears?

during the rnc after of course he had that assassination attempt. it might pick up. we might see more orange safety vests out here. >> john: i/new for us. no garbage trucks in sight. but maybe an orange vest or two. thank you. >> gillian: vice president harris is also hitting the trail and arizona and nevada today. some of her surrogates now are still stuck doing damage control over president biden's it garbage comment. alicia acuna's live in arizona just west of phoenix. what did it they have to say to our reporters this morning? i understand she spoke just before she headed out west. >> it appears that she is trying to shift attention to issues where polls show she is the strongest like reproductive rights but there was a reporter in the room who said they noticed she has no longer calling herself an underdog in speeches and asked if she still considers herself one. >> i am putting it all in the field. and it will be a very tight race

and i am running like the underdog because we are. donald trump has been running for the last decade. i've been in this race about three and a half months. and the stakes are so high. but i've been saying for quite some time regardless of what the polls say, we will win. >> she is arriving in arizona to court latino voters. this state has the largest hispanic population of the battleground states. a recent poll of arizona, likely latino voters show that trump leads harris 56% to 46% that is a margin of 3.7. she lands on that offense from president biden's remark about trump supporter's being garbage. >> i intend to be a president for all americans and including those who may not vote for me in this election. >> you are promising to bring people together, even people you disagree with. how do you convince trump supporter's of that when you are calling their candidate a

would-be dictator, a petty tyrant. >> i am talking to everyone as an american. regardless of who they voted f for. >> and when she takes the stage is afternoon, she will be appearing with a very popular mexican musical group before she hits nevada where she will be on stage with j.lo. back to you. >> gillian: thank you. john. >> john: let's bring in ari fleischer, fox news contributor and former white house press secretary. only trump could have done what he did yesterday where he showed up in green bay, wisconsin, in a trash truck. let's listen to a little bit of what he said when he met the press. >> how do you like my garbage truck? this is in honor of, and joe biden. joe biden should be ashamed of himself if he knows what he's even doing and she should be ashamed because she should not let him do it. >> john: he's tearing a strip off of them but he's doing it in a way that is -- i don't think it's a way that trump could do it in terms of his sense of

humor. say what you want, whether did biden call trump supporter's garbage or did he not. he changed the narrative in a way that i think has given a lot of momentum to the former president. what do you think? >> first and foremost i apologize for wearing a tie and jacket. i feel overdressed. but the issue here this late stage in the campaign, voters are used to tuning things out so when they heard all of this media hyping up a comedians line at a speech that donald trump wasn't even in the room for, there is a sense of dismissing among the voters. i think a little bit of the same thing although when the sitting president of the united states refers to the american people as garbage it's a bit offensive and he was by the way referring to trump supporter's. he meant one individual he would've said that comedian. no one says a word supporter. he would've referred to com

comedian. what donald trump did that is absolutely brilliant as he made it less about the specific words and when he dressed in that vest, just like when he dressed in the apron at mcdonald's, he is sending a signal that i am one of you. i'm a regular guy and for so much of the trump voter, that is who he is targeting. it goes back to the old school of thought who do you want to have a beer with? do you want to have a beer at kamala harris or with donald trump? these images, it's all about making trump a likable and normal guy. >> gillian: it certainly did change the narrative but i think probably more painfully for the harris walz campaign. it forced harris and walz and their surrogates to pivot their attention away from their own messaging that they are hoping and planning to put out in the final days. you then had the president's on hunter biden yesterday in an interview double down essentially and say he is scared about losing democracy in this election. he called it a fascist minority.

an important question to ask is not just what the harris campaign is doing out front to battle this, but if you are one of their officials, how furious are you with president biden right now? >> i can only imagine the very end of the campaign, everyone is exhausted, everyone matters and you want to close strong. i can only imagine how angry the harris people have to be at president biden himself and the rest of the biden apparatus to bring these words in. the undecided voters right now, of whom there are precious few, but they are important in a close race like this. the last thing they want to hear his fascism beer the last thing they want to hear his name calling. the reason they are undecided as they reject this kind of normal political hyperbole, over talk. they want to hear about the things that matter in their lives which is going to be the border, it's going to be inflation, maybe for some it is abortion but i think their minds are made up. it probably brings it right back to the economy again and

name-calling turns them off. kamala harris knows that so when she says she does not like name-calling, this is the woman who called him a fascist. this is the woman who at the debate said you are a disgrace and then she talked about the importance of working together. it reinforces how hollow she is. i think the undecideds are going to break mostly toward trump here at the end. it is setting up and looking pretty good for donald trump with a few days out. >> john: that would be interesting because if they do start to break, it could break that way across the country and make all the difference. let me ask about something you said a moment to go. you said voters see trump as a regular guy. we all know he is anything but a regular guy. he has never been a regular guy. his father worked hard, made a lot of money, he was born into money, he is a billionaire yet somehow he does have residence with folks who punch the clock every day. in the same way that elon musk does as well. elon musk is the richest guy in

the world but voters also see him as a tony stark type of guy. iron man from the motor cities who can create all of this incredible stuff. how is it that two billionaires can have such residence with working class. >> it's not complicated and it's one of the greatest things about america. it's not what you have, it's how you treat people. in america we don't have this resentment of billionaires and millionaires the way they do in a communist country or socialist company. we all have -- want to be billionaires and millionaires but if you have a guy that is ae color touch and if you are work to you staying stomach working in construction fields, they rub shoulders not only with the bankers who loaned the money, bt with the guys who did the dished drive the machines. they just have a different background and that is part of trump. it doesn't matter if he was born rich, you feel that.

you don't pick it up from, harris. there's an aloofness therapy or you didn't pick it up from barack obama. you do get a sense of that from donald trump. >> gillian: i guess on the democratic side of there is a lot of officials who feel notch is burned by the biden comments but don't understand and think it's unfair that what the president said is sticking to harris in this way. president trump immediately compared the comment to hilary is basket of deplorable's but they say okay, but she was the primary candidate back then. this is not as if kamala harris said this. in fact she has gone to these extraordinary lengths over the last few weeks to try and distance yourself from the president and yet his error is trailing her. is that kind of unavoidable in your opinion or could they be doing a better job tooth brush

it off. >> it's unavoidable when the president says something and you are the president's vice president. you are tied together. but it's ironic that they are doing this right after they tried to make a comedian's words of donald trump's words when they were not. harris is stuck with the good and the bad of biden which is mostly bad but at this late stage in the campaign it is the gaps that kill you. there's little you can do anymore that is good. maybe some of these images of trump break through and they good pictures but what you say now is going to be repetition of everything you have said throughout for months. it's hard to get something new positive out there. it is, and it's a problem for all campaigns, something negative breakthrough. it happened in 2,000 at the end of the campaign with george bush when the dwi information came out. the last minute negative surprises are what hurts. >> gillian: sorry to interrupt but you made me think of something really quickly only had ten seconds until we have to go but now that the campaign is virtually done with a couple days left and you look back at

it, has biden contributed anything positive to harris' campaign? >> he dropped out. that was it. he would've lost and democrats would've gone down the tubes and the house in the senate. now they have a 50/50 shot. so yes. and then he should have just stayed at the beach the whole last couple months. >> john: i was thinking exactly the same think of the greatest favor he did for kamala harris as he dropped out of the race. thank you so much. good to see you. >> thank you. >> gillian: thank you. here is a live look at the trump rally that will kick off in albuquerque. does the former president have a shot at swaying voters their? we have a republican who is running for congress in new mexico that will join us coming out. >> john: voters have their money on their minds with the election just days away. new data shows things are improving slightly but is it enough to sway the undecideds? money man charles payne is here with his take. >> middle class is feeling now.

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>> john: the los angeles dodgers celebrating the world series victory over the new york yankees in the bronx last night. but overnight celebrations on the west coast took a chaotic turn. police say a hostile crowd set a city bus on fire just a few miles from dodger stadium. l.a.p.d. reporting several stores in the downtown area were looted. because of course. that's the way you sell rate of victory. you set things on fire and break

into stores. >> gillian: i don't know. >> john: i don't get that. >> gillian: i don't understand either. the yankees would've had an awesome ticker tape parade and everyone would've been joyous and happy but this is what happens when the dodgers win. >> john: they set buses on fire and rob stores paired way to go l.a. >> gillian: a key inflation report is out today. final gauge that the voters will get before election day. it shows the federal reserve's 2% goal was a good thing but many americans are still getting pinched by high prices paired a new bank of america reports 10% more people now are living paycheck to paycheck than they were before the pandemic. let's bring in making money -- host of making money charles payne. he is here to weigh in. despite positive indicators in the bigger picture beyond inflation this week, the prices are making it sticky, people are still struggling all across the

country. do you think that the new numbers, the positives, the growth in gdp, the consumer confidence index, do you think any of that will have an effect or not really and we are stuck where we are? >> not really and i will tell you why. the headlines are very misleading. gdp report. i do think there is something intriguing going on in this country with consumer spending now it is hard to understand because they put all of our spending in a bucket. when i go shopping at the mall this weekend and a billionaire go shopping somewhere else and buys a plane, all of that gets added to the data and it might look fantastic but people are spending more than they are taking in. i think it's a depression kind of thing but as far as gdp numbers, one of the big drivers of that is government spending. government spending is one of the key reasons we are dealing with inflation and there is no good news on inflation. i know that the headlines say there is but today, core pce which is what the fed uses actually went higher and for people watching the show, the best way i can explain it for

folks who don't understand is if you lived in the path of one of these recent hurricanes and it wiped out your house and a week later it was sunny, a beautiful day, and a reporter came in front of her house and said things look like they got a lot better. no, the houses still still wiped out. they came late of infective has not gone away. rights are not going down. they are still going up. every time they go up, even if it's by the minimum amount, it's insult to injury and more insult and injury where half the country is saying i'm going to live in a moment. there's no real future and i can't buy a house and mortgage rates are about up over 7% and i'm not getting anywhere paired my paycheck doesn't go nearly as far as it did two or three years ago. >> gillian: here is president biden this morning on pce. we will put it on the screen, i won't read the whole thing because it's a little long but he says critics said we needed a recession to lower inflation and instead inflation has come down while our economy has grown more than 12% over the course of my administration.

the fastest rate of any presidential term in the 21st century. incomes are up over $4,000 after accounting for inflation and gas prices are down to $3.13 per gallon and below $3.21 in 21 states. $4,000 in income is not insignificant if true. i don't know. does he get any credit for that? >> i'm still confused. you are using the buzzwords. gas prices are down but they are higher since he came into office. you can't cherry-pick entry points. we were coming out -- of the economy regain jobs that were lost in the covid crisis where they were not new jobs. the trajectory of job growth in our nation we are still far below where we are from a potential point of view. and that's what we aren't looking at. tried to parse these words where they are political words that are put in there for a particular reason.

listen to the american public. i'm not sure why we don't listen to the american public and we keep insulting them telling them they are doing great when they tell us they are not. a brand-new survey yesterday lays it all out. people are suffering in this country and why? because these policies under biden have enriched the wealthiest people on the planet. they have enriched the educated elite. the top 20% of people in america are doing 40% of the consumption. and if you throw it all in a bucket you can make it look sweet but inside there when we parse it, when we pull it apart and look at individual americans, you hear their pain. we feel their pain and i think we should acknowledge it more. >> gillian: what we are seeing on screen now charles is out from the republicans who are on the joint economic committee in congress. they are putting forward numbers here. i don't know if you can see it but it is battleground state inflation numbers and it shows how that persistent or sticky inflation as you were calling it is hurting people in these key

battleground state. especially hard. you can see there are some big numbers. nevada, over 22%, arizona over 22%, north carolina, almost at 22%. kind of a worst-case scenario in terms of the politics of this. >> those are really tough real life things that have to live with. it's one thing again to paint an overall rosy picture and i agree. we have come out of the pandemic better than any of the other developed nations which i think is so ironic because often you hear politicians say we should be more like europe. with the election is about is deciding whether we want to keep the things that have given us this foundation for recovery or do we want to switch it up because we have romanticized how great europe as an those socialist tendencies have weight on them dramatically and it's a good cautionary tale for us but in the same token this did not come without a price tag. our inflation is higher than most european nations, our income equality is significantly

higher than almost every nation in europe or the rest of the developed world. again, these policies that have been in place have been extraordinary. we talk a lot about $1 trillion in debt that we have to pay on our debt as a nation. just on the interest. who gets at $1 trillion? the richest people in the world. the richest people in america. they get rewarded as the average person watching the show saw the credit card interest rates go from 15% to 23%. we live in a nation where we need to find a way to bring it together and we need policies that allow us to lift ourselves up by the bootstraps without the government pouring in so much money and picking winners and losers that it distorts everything while hurting most people. >> gillian: we need to leave it there. thank you for taking the time with us. >> see you later. >> john: former president trump and vice president harris to host another round of dueling rallies in north carolina. the fight for the key battleground state heating up with the final dates of their campaigns. political science professor at unc jason roberts weighs in.

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>> gillian: welcome back. elon musk was a no-show in court this morning and pennsylvania. the lid off he is d.a. is suing elon musk arguing his $1 million a day giveaway to register voters in the keystone state is nothing more than an illegal lottery he is using to try to essentially drive voters to help the trump ticket. bryan llenas is outside the court in philly. what happened today? >> good afternoon. lawyers for philadelphia's district attorney larry krasner

were not happy that elon musk was a no-show in court today. his lawyers said that spirit "he is a very busy man who can't just materialize and appear at any notice." lawyers for the d.a.'s office said they found it hard to believe that the richest man in the world can't show up with 12 hours notice. he owns spacex. the judge responded he is not going to take a rocket to philadelphia. as for the hearing itself, the case is being moved to federal court. >> on mischief night, elon musk and his amera pack filed legal papers to have the case removed from this court to federal court and we will proceed to federal court and we will address the issues there and seek to have the matter remanded back to the state court.

>> phillies d.a. larry krasner filed a civil lawsuit on monday trying to immediately stop elon musk from giving out $1 million to one lucky registered voter a day and battleground states like right here in pennsylvania. the sweepstakes is meant to galvanize support for former president trump. larry krasner said the giveaway is run by elon musk's pro-trump super pac is nothing more than an illegal lottery and it violates consumer protection laws. he also called it a threat to a free and fair election. the lawyers called larry krasner's lawsuit a publicity stunt. this is the latest legal battle in pennsylvania where fox poll show a virtually tied race among both registered and likely voters for harris and trump and it shows that the senate race here is neck and neck. republican pete candidate dave mccormick is now within just two points of senator bob casey after being down nine points a little over a month ago.

bottom line is both presidential campaigns and view pennsylvania's 19 electoral votes as a must-win and they are really going back and forth here trying to stop any perceived advantages or disadvantages in what could be a very long legal battle here pre and post election. >> gillian: bryan llenas in philly for us. thank you. john. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> we will have record numbers. i think we are heading toward record numbers in north carolina. >> north carolina, i haven't asked you. are you ready to make your voices heard? >> john: having focused on north carolina, trump, vance, harris, and walz of campaign there the past two days in both trump and harris are headed back on saturday fighting for every

vote that will be the final day of early voting in the tar heel state. let's dig into the data with jason roberts was a political science professor at unc chapel hill. good to be with you. let me put up on the screen first of all input and read because trump is leading the latest numbers from the fox poll, reino donald trump has a lead over kamala harris 49% to 47%. and want to find interesting about the tar heel state, if we could take a look at this is it breaks down five distinct geographic areas. give sandra in the piedmont and the triangle area over here and then you have charlotte and the west. if you take a look at the numbers, trump right now is plus 9% in the east and plus 12 in the central part of the state and plus 26 out there in the west. but don't forget they got hit hard by the hurricane. and kamala harris here in the raleigh and durham area is ahead plus 25 and she is ahead plus 6 in charlotte.

what do the candidates need to do in the closing days of this campaign to break what is essentially a deadlocked tie and prevail here in the tar heel state? >> they are both trying to do the opposite of the same thing appeared the harris campaign is trying to run up the margins in the urban areas and keep the losses to a minimum and the rural areas in the trump campaign is trying to do the opposite. they are trying to jack up the vote totals in the east and the west while keeping the losses to a minimum in the raleigh area in the charlotte area. >> john: in terms of the west, how well has estate done in terms of getting people who have been displaced or lost homes the ability to be able to vote in this election? >> they have done an excellent job. the voting infrastructure is in good shape. a lot of polling places had to be moved because they were damaged or destroyed by the hurricane but the infrastructure is in place. the real question is whether these people who have had their lives turned upside down or destroyed or in many cases lost a loved one is voting at the top

of their priority list. will they make the time to do that given all the other essentials of life they are dealing with right now. >> john: in terms of early voting 3,622,815 people have voted early so far. i am hearing that the republican numbers are up in the democratic numbers are down. and in terms of the early vote, people who have already voted say they went -- let me put that in a different color if i could. people who went early went 50 248 for, harris. people that said they will be early voters and continue to do that are going 49-48 for trump and people that said they are going to vote on election day are going to go 51-44 for trump. when you take a look at that in the aggregate, it looks like trump has more votes bagged than kamala harris does. >> i know it is tempting to try

and draw inferences from early vote data but it's difficult to do so appeared we simply don't know who will vote early, who will vote on election day. in 2020 we had much clearer patterns for you in a much heavy democratic turnout in early voting and vote by mail and the republicans beat them on election day. so it really didn't matter that much. the early voting data is helpful for the campaign screwed they can identify who has voted, who has not voted so they can target the people that what they want to turn out. but it's difficult to draw much if at all any credible inference from early voting. >> john: one more aspect i want to look at and that is breaking down some of the voting groups. among independents right now kamala harris is a leading 45-41 so that is independent voters. among women voters of course she has a substantial lead and that lead is 52-45 but if you take a look at men, donald trump has a pretty substantial lead among men. he is winning 54-41.

among men. so women tend to make up the bulk of the electorate and american elections but when you take a look at all of that, does that balance out and doesn't show how tight the races? >> it is very tight. i do think you are keying onto something important, the gender gap. in 2020 about 400,000 more women than men voted in north carolina in a state that trump won by a little less than 75,000 votes. so if the harris campaign -- what they are trying to do is keep their gap among women voters larger than the gap that trump can run up among male voters. if they do that they think they will have more women than men voting and that's a key to victory but again, with the margins as tight as hard to project this far out and that's why both campaigns are spending so much time here. >> john: with this particular number, it's interesting. the fox news poll found women were ahead of 52-45 for the harris side but our recent poll found those numbers slightly

flipped and trump was ahead and minute. don't know if that was an outlier or this is an outlier but it shows that there's a little bit of my lability with the polls. and you don't know which way it will go until we get to the voting. jason, thank you for joining. good to see her. >> my pleasure. thank you. >> john: now this. >> i think he spoke what he believed and obviously it's divisive but i know who i'm voting for and it's not changing one way or another based on what he has to say. >> it's irresponsible. it supposed to be bringing the country together instead of dividing us more. >> gillian: former president trump seized on president biden's garbage comment. the white house pushing back and insisting it was an honest mistake. john caldwell and megan hayes will debate the impact it may or not have on voters coming up next. stick with us.

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>> john: the cost of child care in america has been on the rise for literally decades where the financial strain hitting many families very hard. now some measures to either burden are on the ballot in several states. fox business correspondence lydia hu's live in bloomfield, new jersey. how would these proposals help parents? >> hi john peered we are seeing a number of local jurisdictions either proposing new taxes or proposing increasing taxes to help offset the cost of child care. we are seeing this in places like st. paul, minnesota, lucas county ohio and travis county, texas, where when voters had the ballots or cast their ballots on tuesday they will answer questions like this. it is affordable child care with a property tax increase? the local measures and

proposals, as child care costs have soared in recent years and decades as you mention the average family paid more than $11,500 for child care just last year. that is 10% of the median income for a married family. and we heard about our presidential candidates and former presidential candidates on the campaign child talking about child care. vice president kamala harris supports a child care care tax credit of up to $6,000 for families with newborns and former president donald trump running mate j.d. vance says he backs a $5,000 child tax credit. but i'm speaking with the owners of child care centers like the one behind me and she supports a tax credit but says that does nothing to offset her rising costs. watch. >> everything has increased. the prices of groceries have increased. you name it, everything. supplies. the insurance cost keeps increasing. minimum wage. it has been nonstop.

>> and those very issues are what force this child care provider to hike her tuition this year by 10%. illustrating the very problem here back to you. >> john: it's tough for so many people. lydia hu four is in bloomfield, new jersey. thank you. >> gillian: any minute now former president trump is set to campaign in new mexico. could the border crisis end up swinging the state his way? he thinks so. we will bring you his remarks plus wait till you hear what harris surrogate mark cuban had to say about the former president. that is next

>> john: billionaire entrepreneur mark cuban going after former president trump on the view this morning but in the process taking a dig at every single woman who has been around president trump. listen here. >> donald trump, you never see him around strong intelligent women. ever. it's just that simple. they are intimidating to him. he does not like to be challenged by them. >> john: joining is now on the phone is one of those women. kellyanne conway former sr. counsel for president trump, fox news contributor and resident of ka consulting.

you are not strong or intelligent or independent? i don't know if that would describe you. >> i appreciated john. edges shows how desperate and concerned they are. they are not certain they are supporting a strong intelligent woman for president. she's down in the polls and tied and i'm standing here from the ellipse with the white house in the background without a teleprompter because i'm able to speak with you the place and i worked for four years for president trump and mayor mind everyone as i said in my rnc speech i looked around the roosevelt room one day, something you are familiar with and i saw brooke rawlins, ivanka trump, sarah huckabee sanders, mercedes schlapp and me. between the five of us, we have 19 children. at the time ages 2316. the highest rank in the white house as strong intelligent women. show me us we see in america. show me any of mark cuban's entrepreneurial respect suits where some of the top positions are being held by working moms

whose kids are ages 2316. you won't find that. it doesn't matter to me what desperate people say. what i care about is defending the tens of millions of strong intelligent women who are going to vote for donald trump next tuesday and already have. whether it is joe biden calling us garbage or extremists. hillary with deplorable irredeemable and now mark cuban questioning women around donald trump would not be strong or intelligent. they are losing this election based on their elitism and the direct insults to the american people. >> gillian: this is juliann. the comment as i understand it came in response to the question why trump is not taking nikki haley up on her offer to do more for him on the trail. so it was really a dig at her -- he made it broader than that but he was responding to a question about nikki haley. do you think that the campaign

has been making a smart decision in that regard it to keep her out of the fray? >> she's not out of the fray. she's on fox news a couple times a week talking about the gender gap but also everybody, all of us is welcome to do what they want to help donald trump win. nobody needs to be invited. she can keep her own schedule. she can go out and campaign. i know she was in pennsylvania yesterday campaigning for senate candidate dave mccormick and that's fantastic but the more voices the better. i think what is being missed and all of this is the mainstream media and the people on the view and places like that, the nonand new shows, they want to talk about this republican or that republican who ran against trump. they are missing the would be and should be democrat rank-and-file voters that are thinking of and voting for president trump because they are so tired of being told who they are, how to think, what they are not, and they are less that. i want to put a personal

flourish here. mark cuban went and took a front row seat at hillary clinton's debate in late september 2016. that was a mistake and cnbc, the home for a short take said it was a mistake. it reminded everybody about her being surrounded by celebrities and elitists and out of touch folks. it's easy to be jealous of donald trump you i don't take a front. i don't think any of the women around donald trump past, present, and future care what he thinks and they have kamala harris who is not able to show connective tissue with the american people. >> john: mark cuban made those comments to alyssa fair who while she has turned on from, she was one of those smart and intelligent women whose working at the white house. appreciate you coming on. >> gillian: we are moments away from former president trump's rally in albuquerque. we will bring it to you next. stick with us for all of the breaking news.

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