♪ ♪ >> john: it is the final stretch for former president trump and vice president kamala harris with four days to go until election day. both candidates barnstorming to make the final pitch is to voters. john roberts in washington and it might be friday, sandra but it is not a weekend off. >> sandra: we are getting closer and closer and great to be with you taking up a new hour and this 30 "america reports." the real clear politics show trump and harris neck and neck as they crisscross the country with a focus on the blue wall s. we have fox team coverage across the border and reporters on the

ground coast-to-coast, but first rich edson live in milwaukee to kick things off and this is where both candidates holding rallies today, rich. >> they are, sandra. if you think it is closed in wisconsin, two candidates and two speeches and wisconsin the last couple of days. the trump venue already lined up at the red hats sound going you have basically missed crew here and you go a few blocks away from here and you have blue bumper stickers and blue buttons for harris and tim walz. heading first north of detroit in warren, michigan, and focused heavily on the economy. he has built several of these economic speeches even though other aspects made headlines whether trump writing in a garbage truck and safety speed vest and critics from liz liz cheney. trump called cheney a war hawk and let's see how she feels

standing there with 9-barrel shooting at her. cheney responded that is how dictators destroy free nations by threatening those who pick against them with death appear to have the trump campaign says the former president is correct warmongers like cheney are quick to start worth and send americans to fight them rather than go into combat themselves. trump speaks 9:00 p.m. this evening eastern time average of this is the same arena where he accepted the g.o.p. nomination back in july, sandra. >> sandra: rich lives in milwaukee, a spin at the touch screen looking at milwaukee with john duffy moments from now. rich edson, john. >> john: a little bit east and grady trimble at taylor and it's about 20 minutes outside of detroit. what is going on where you are? >> john, governor tim walz wrapped his first event up at 3:00 in michigan. that gives you a clue how

important the state is and more specifically how important union voters are. we are inside united autoworkers union hall. taking photos with people at this event and i had a chance to catch up with congresswoman debbie dingell who famously ring alarm bells before the 2016 election about the weaknesses of canada hillary clinton. here is what she says about michigan and who has the upper hand this time around. >> right now on friday, neither one of them have won the state. union workers will vote for donald trump. but i believe that there are more union workers that will support v6 then they did in 201. >> antiunion united auto workers has endorsed the to harris-walz but here is a thing we have from a lot of autoworkers who are in disagreement with that and theye

been crushed by inflation and have serious concerns about what they call a electric vehicle mandate from the biden-harris administration. that is something that both former president trump and senator j.d. vance will talk about a lot when they are here later today. for the former president, when he comes back to make his closing argument to michigan and grand rapids, john. >> john: thank you for the update from taylor, michigan, thank you, sandra. >> sandra: over a month after hurricane helene tore through the battleground in the concern still linger over poll site accessibility. jonathan serrie is in north carolina. the state will watch closely election night. jonathan hunt, has image from hurricane helene affected carolina? >> much to the surprise voting in the 25 storm affected counties has been outpacing voting in the rest of the state. the state and federal government setting up large and to provide

polling locations for residents in the heart of the hippest are. >> many have lost their homes and their vehicles. they are in bad health and this gives them a little bit of hope. >> their vote is going to matter. >> this is simply going to be easier and i think more people will vote, definitely. >> other than the blue dots of asheville and then go of the rest of the mountainous area has voted red in past elections. speak of that particular area is older, wider, much more republican and the state, and they are for, but it's kind of a base region for republicans. >> sandra, else won't get outpouring from neighbors alike have deepened the ties to the community and made them all more determined to vote. >> those communities have been

through so much. jonathan, thank you for your reporting. >> what do you guys think about what mark cuban had to say about the women that donald trump's is to surround himself with? >> it is ridiculous. trump has so many great women working for him. >> that is completely inaccurate as far as women in the republican party. there is plenty of us women out here with businesses that contribute to the economy and have raised our children. we are all important. >> john: women in georgia reacting to billionaire mark cuban harris campaign surrogate doing damage control after going on "the view" suggesting women near trump are neither strong or intelligent. some of those women are furious. "the new york post" headline "say it to their faces." here to weigh in alabama senator katie britt. good to be with you. folks at home remember where we are, here is what cuban said on "the view" talking about why

occasionally was not on the campaign trail with trump. >> donald trump you never see around intelligent women ever. it is that simple. they are to him. he doesn't like to be challenged by them. >> john: he said he was talking why nikki haley was not on the road. that you never see trump around strong, intelligent women. we have these pictures have a rally in atlanta earlier this week where former senator kelly loeffler, who herself go to a basketball professional basketball team owner right there next to trump. what did you make of what you heard? >> i love to see kelly out there and saying what she said yesterday. okay, i own a pro team and let me tell you about what strong, intelligent women want in this election. she is exactly right. look, mark cuban could not be more up on this. first of all, i am offended. to have the party who say they are the party of the diversity.

yet, not a party of diversity bifold or two if you don't think like them, they want to minimizu and disparage you and ultimately ink that is despicable. look, president trump continually surrounds himself with strong, intelligent women, starting with his wife and greatest advisor. you look around the people who would put with him while in the presidency and he had more women surrounding were working diligently for the family and for the country, around him speaking directly into tough conversations. he wanted their advice. he wanted to know what they believed when it came to policy matters. that is why when at the reasons his first term was so successful. at the end of the day, that is what women want. women want strong families, strong fans, safe streets, secure border.

the thing we saw in donald trump's presidency and will preserve the american dream for our children and our children's children is exactly what we want to see for the next four years. we know what it is on the ballot and despite mark gibbons offensive bullying, i know women understand what is at stake and i'm excited to see the results november 5th. >> john: after mark cuban realized he needed to go through a car wash to get his claim he tried to walk it back. when i said this in the interview i didn't get it out exactly the way i thought i did. i apologize to anyone who felt slighted to. it was not about trump voters, employees former. but do you think this could have an effect on republican women or don't like trump and think about setting this election out? >> look, absolutely. we continually see from the media and the elite, which is exactly that last mark cuban is

talking about. looking down at their nose who don't think exactly like them. i think standing up and allowing our boys to be heard is so critically important. so, i do think the effect of a big. look, this is part of the democrats playbook. here you have a campaign that started as a campaign of joy and has now turned into a campaign of fearmongering. we saw with hillary clinton when she called us deplorables. we sought this week when joe biden called us "garbage" and yesterday from mark cuban when he said strong and intelligent women would not vote for donald trump. these disparaging comments did not hurt our cause but embolden people to speak up and speak loudly and say, we are willing to fight for it. that is what you will see election day coming soon. >> john: we are about out of time but you say women want their voices to be hard to. julia roberts ad for the harris campaign that says women can have their voices heard as long

as they are sneaky about it. listen here. >> you can vote anyway you want. and no one will ever know. ♪ ♪ >> john: you can hide it from everybody, including your husband. former nfl sidemen, dear julia roberts your ad depicting women lying to their husbands about their votes is so 1950s. as a sure view since don't appreciate their wives independent thinking. may be in your marriages but not mine. out! >> perfectly said. the fact that they would believe that women can't have tough conversations with their husbands and that women aren't allowed to disagree. and sometimes have spirited dialogue with t man they chose o marry is once again demeaning. i know for my husband and i, we don't agree 100% of the time but

we certainly put it out on the table and talk about it. this to me, it was another desperate attempt by the left to try to unfortunately influence women in a way that i feel like shows weakness and not strength. >> john: well, i know i wife and i have spirited conversations, though mostly i just listen. senator, good to talk to you. speak about is mark here just be nice talking to you as well. >> john: what about you spirited conversations? >> absolutely and he does a lot of listening. i'm sure that is happening at home. they have more reaction to all of that coming up, right, john? >> john: we do, indeed. kimberley strassel in "the wall street journal" had an interesting response to all of this as well. she think it is more insane. but when you put it together, drip, drip, drip but what did the democrats in powerful

positions think about republican voters and people who would vote for trump? >> sandra: sometimes they say it out loud. >> john: what is and the hard is usually the first thing that comes out of the mouth. >> sandra: we hear you. josephine went corrects up at the heart space. >> the labor department new job numbers are out in the final jobs report before the election. it didn't look good. the numbers were 12,000 jobs added in this was impacted by the hurricanes, the floods in a big impact on a boeing strike in addition to other things. that that was still built into the expectations and with low expectations, the markets are up. still quite resilient in the face of what was disappointing child's number. as you know, a lot of predictions go into what the fed will do next. that is what we are watching right now for the dow jones app 260 points.

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♪ ♪ >> sandra: you can feel it, right vice vice president harris and trump with the three blue wall states trump won in 2016

but flipped to biden 2020. sean duffy on fox business and former republican congressman of wisconsin. i have been looking forward to this. let's take in and remind everybody how close this gets in the state. when you look at wisconsin 2020 election results, i mean, you see the difference. >> 20,000 votes. >> sandra: 20,000 votes joe biden one back and fled from obama in 2016, look at that. >> 22,000 votes. >> sandra: so it gets close. you have kamala harris on the ground today. i believe she is first up in rock county. and i know you know these areas well. she will also head up to the county. what is the strategy? you like that, right? >> listen, the key for democrats is madison county. a growing area and republicans

do poorly and 22% in this county carriage of the key for trump can you get to 23%, 24%? that is why he's gone to the area and so many voters statewide. so trump plan not to win but increase the vote. >> sandra: she is on the ground in rock county. >> that matters. >> sandra: than that to allegheny, which by the way west of green bay, which we have seen the candidate spending time on the ground but what is the strategy? >> this is a swing area green bay and democrats think they can make up ground there but it's not a big republican area pet it leans republican. so both are playing hard for a vote they can swing in this area so both are upgrading to it. >> harris and trump tonight will be in milwaukee. what is the ground again when you look at the counties?

>> we've seen more african american voters and hispanic voters flaming trump's way so he wants to play to them in milwaukee. the greatest are the wild counties, waukesha, washington into the right sake. so trump getting those 362% turnout is important in donald trump in 2020 got less than 60% in waukesha county. >> sandra: in 2020. >> do we have that poll? what he is doing is kenny get the republican voters? they didn't like him in 2020 as much but they had seen what jill biden will offer him. so milwaukee is in play not just milwaukee. >> sandra: while we are here and watching the states we know how close it is where the heck are you from questioning. >> i'm from sarah county right here in hayward. 60/44 -- i live in congress in one of the biggest landmass

counties. people don't think about because there is a lot of role wisconsin. a lot of voters and landmass. donald trump in this part of the state has to maximize the vote by one to two points better than he did in 2020. with a can offset the growth in madison. madison has grown a lot and liberal so can he make up a point or two in medicine and outperform up here? speech a very interesting so election night what will you focus and the most when it comes to the state quick mark i will focus on the medicine and dade county. but early results coming in and smaller counties, is he doing better in this election than he did 2020? the two is he running the vote up here, gotcha. >> it is a tight county republican but can donald trump flipped the county? not a ton of boats but it is a science they will go for him. >> sandra: i love this,

thank you so much, john periods fee once and for that was interesting illegal immigrant murdering laken riley in court this morning by jose ibarra lawyer his evidence is not that strong. the legal panel mark eiglarsh and mercedes will weigh and post this. >> so listen, las vegas, are we ready to do this? [cheers and applause] harvey ready to vote? >> i just want to say a big very hello to nevada. we are doing great in about. >> both swinging to the sun belt states and we are lives on the ground with fox team coverage next. ♪ ♪

so, you know, han is 22 years old, and we've been together most of my life. not often do you have a childhood dog that, that lives this long so i think it's really unique and special that we've experienced so many, so many things in life together. knowing that he's getting good nutrition and that he has energy is a huge relief for me and my dad.

“such a good little bean.” we're so grateful to have had this time with him, so let's keep it going and make every day special. next january, one of us will be president. if it's donald trump, he will wake up every day and stew over his enemies list. that will help no one. if i am president, i'll be focused on my to do list for you, the american people. i'll cut costs by cracking down on corporate price gouging. make housing more affordable. lower taxes for middle class families and protect social security. i will focus on getting things done. i'm kamala harris, and i approve this message. let's get to work.

♪ ♪ >> john: amos on election officials warning in advance it could take up to two weeks to process all of the boats. the last power rankings have former president trump with a small lead in all but one of the

latest polls in the grand canyon state. senior correspondent lisa kenya lived in tempe with more. how are the lines looking today? >> not so bad right now, john. this is the last day of in person voting and in maricopa county home to 60% of the states elect or it. according to officials the three weeks have early voting has brought out a record number of people. look at the state as a hole, more than 2,065,000 ballots returned and election day promising to be another one for the books in terms of turnout. 11 electoral votes at stake in a state where president biden won 2020 by 10,000 votes. traditionally the candidate who wins maricopa county wins arizona. vice president harris and trump and arizona to push folks to get their ballot turned down by today. again, we talked about this earlier in the way can arizona

has a long ballot taking folks about 30 minutes to fill out, which means the lines, of course a little bit longer, john. >> john: let's hope it is not going to take is one is a project. keep our fingers crossed. good to see you. sandra periods fee due last day of voting in nevada and over 9,000 ballots cast there. jeff paul outside of the polling location and the elitist from there, hi, jeff. >> sandra a lot of people showing up the last day in nevada and you talk to the republicans and the state they like what they are seen so far the latest numbers from that nevada secretary of state show republicans outpacing both democrats and third party or nonpartisan voters casting roughly 40,000 more votes than democrats. that is a big reason why we see both candidates hit nevada so hard to. vice president kamala harris reminded voters to take advantage of early voters but

that congresswoman issued this dark warning. >> i hate to tell you this, but nevada is falling behind. in fact, republicans are kicking our [bleep] early voting. we cannot let that happen. >> trump meanwhile stopping off in nevada to say he lost in 2016 and 2020. and the fate of the nation in their hands calling nevada a big state for them and emphasize how republicans are currently leaving early voting. we should also mention j.d. vance and tim walz expected to stop off in nevada emphasizing how both candidates and both campaigns are putting a lot of importance on this date. sandra. >> sandra: jeff paul in las vegas for us, thank you, down periods payment illegal migrants accused of murdering georgia student laken riley in court and hosea boris lawyer

with cell phone data should not be allowed at trial. jury selection expected to begin in two weeks and criminal defense attorney and we hope to have mercedes joining us but technical difficulties. the defense is asking for a lot here, mark let me read motion to suppress. the defendant through counsel to move this court to suppress the following evidence seized or searched in the unlawful manner. two cellular device is bullied by the state to belong to the defendant and information contained in them physical information taken from the person at the defendant and the contents of the defendant social media account snapchat snapchat facebook, tikk obtained by google incorporated. they have a favorable ruling and it will be tough to prosecute. >> right, but they likely won't. it it's very hard to i probably file these motions all the time and very difficult to get a judge to suppress evidence.

there needs to be a high burden that is met. for those rolling their eyes that any defendant, especially when not here illegally somehow is getting an attorney who is writing zealously for them and really trying to get the evidence thrown out, understand that is necessary. everyone under the constitution, the due process clause, requires good and competent counsel. they are merely doing their job. if they were not and convicted the, this case would come back on appeal. >> john: no question about that. mercedes is good and with us now. >> hi, mark periods fee when we were talking about the defense motion to suppress, which was argued in court. no decision on that. the admissibility of dna evidence. there are two parts to that and jose ibarra cheek swab was taken without a warrant. apparently he volunteered at the

other thing it did not definitively rule him out. the motion to suppress as the results of that testing did not exclude the defendant but also did not exclude another known individual associated with the case. which i take it is likely a brother who he was staying with. what do you say about that, mercedes, is background to have dna evidence excluded? >> well, that is deathly a key argument. most defense attorneys will collect the collection of that type of evidence and whether down properly and enough due process or whether an arrest, given an opportunity to speak to counsel. they were so many rights attached when an individual is in custody with law enforcement. when i the key issues for defense attorney is that collection of dna evidence is so critical, especially in a case like this where a crime of opportunity. this is not something that happen in a domestic violence

dispute. but two stranger so the only way to link it to the individual charged with this heinous crime is to link through dna evidence. you will see that defense attorneys argued to try to overcome getting fat evidence in. once it is and, it is very. >> john: mark what about the cheek swab taken before a warrant issued and apparently again he volunteered it with the defense arguing he has an illegal immigrant. english is his second language and he doesn't understand the rules and regulations did not agree to any of the step where his miranda rights are read to him? how do you dissect all of that? >> first and foremost if somebody knowingly intelligently and freely volunteered law enforcement to take a q-tip and stick it in their mouth and run it around the, to be analyzed for dna, then their argument is meritless. the issue will be, he didn't know and didn't understand.

ultimately, that is what attorneys do, we argued those things. but this is arguably a slow guilty plea. that is what we call it in the business, let's say they found his fingerprint on her cell phone and they have video evidence. they have everything short of a busload of nuns who saw him do it. >> john: mercedes, how well the judge role in this case? no rolling today in a pretrial hearing on november 12 canceled probably while they determine this. what do you think a judge will do in this case? >> mark, i can't get that image out of my head. best analogies ever. certainly, it goes down to the communications happening. there is bad and no communication between defense attorney and prosecution. they are probably trying to work out a deal because to mark's point, there is overwhelming evidence against jose ibarra. in a defense attorney, their

weight will try to get the best deal because right now, we are talking about a life sentence without the possibility of paro. if there is simply may be 25 to life with the possibility of parole. but this could all take place behind these types of fad channel communications. the judge will likely not rule the admissibility of dna knowing how incredible it is. the defense could always bring in their expert and say, it is not him but someone else. >> john: we will keep following this and see where it goes. the trail of great importance to folks in this country. mercedes, john, have a great week in. sandra. >> these young and two victims of fentanyl that take 70,000 americans lives every year. a role in this presidential election. the mothers support different candidates but united in their grief and belief something has to be done to solve this crisis.

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people is someone who has routinely promoted junk science and crazy conspiracy theories who wants expressed support for a national abortion ban and who is the exact last person in america who should be setting health care policy for america's families and children. and then, even worse, he has increased his violent rhetoric, donald trump has, about political opponents. and in great detail, in great detail, suggested rifle should be trained on former representative liz cheney. this must be disqualifying. anyone who wants to be president of the united states who uses that kind of violent rhetoric is clearly is qualified and unqualified to be president.

representative amy is a true patriot who has shown extraordinary courage and playig country above party. trump, however, considers his political opponents the enemy and permanently out for revenge and increasingly unstable and unhinged. his enemies list has grown longer. his rhetoric has grown more extreme, and he is even less focused than before on the needs and the concerns and the challenges facing the american people. i have also thought a lot about what this means in terms of our standing in the world. as vice president, i represented the united states of america around the world. and what i know is when we walk in those rooms representing the united states of america, we have earned and self appointed authority to then talk about the

importance of democracy, the importance of rule of law. as a result, people around the world who are fighting for freedom and opportunity holds us up as a model. america deserves better than what donald trump is offering. america deserves a president who understands our role and responsibility to our people and to the rest of the world to be a model. so, i want and with this. voters are making their decisions. many have voted but they were still those making a decision who they will vote for. what i offer is i ask folks among many issues before you, just consider who will be sitting in the oval office january 20th. you can have donald trump stewing over his enemies list, or i will be there working hard on your behalf on my to-do list. that is the choice among many that is at stake at this

election. and i will be proud to earn the bow of the american people, and i do intend to win. i will take questions. >> have you had a chance to talk to liz cheney? are you concerned about her general security? concerned the situation and how intense things are, do you think the government or administration should provide her with security in this situation? they go i have not talked to her since this comment was made, but i will tell you i know liz cheney well enough to know she is tough, she is an incredibly courageous and she has shown herself to be a true patriot and a very difficult time in our country. to your point, we see this kind of rhetoric that is violent in nature, where we see this kind of spirit coming from donald trump that is latent wih

desire for revenge and retribution. liz cheney is a tough person. she is an incredible american, and i have an incredible amount of respect for her. i think that liz cheney is courageous, and that we will always make sure that we are all fighting against and speaking out against any form of violence. >> reporter: you spoke about early voting. what is your assessment and what is the data you are seeing across. [inaudible] >> vice president harris:peopled inviting them to talk to us about the issues at stake. i see an incredible amount enthusiasm from every walk of life in every generation from ft time those are the only folders to folks who are seniors and issues social security and medicare. what i am enjoying about this

moment most is that in spite of how my opponent spends full-time trying to divide the american people, why i am seeing is people coming together under one roof who seemingly have nothing in common and know they have everything in common and. i think that is the best interest into the strength of our nation. >> reporter: or a lot more women showing up in penns pennsylvania? >> vice president harris: women, managed, folks of every background are showing up. >> reporter: vice president you had a lot of direction during your speech is a lot of pro gaza protesters periods certainly have spoken about democracy and responding to the. but do you think you need to say a little bit more about the immediate conflict or about what you would do it who try to satisfy them? are you concerned at all valuable do in college towns and in michigan, in particular, with

them? president trump today is going to dearborn and politicians -- the second arab american. [inaudible] and traditionally pretty democratic. and do you think he has done enough to reach a voters? >> vice president harris: i am proud to have significant amount of support from the arab american men a day. because of my position what we need to do and because i am the region two and make the war and bring the hostages home and my two-state solution but also within that community, there are many issues that challenge boats and that they want to hear abou, including what we will do to mad bring down the cost of groceries. what we will do to invest in small businesses. i have a plan for all of those things, and that is something that resonates within the community and all americans. >> reporter: do you want to

show the administration right after the policy and support for israel is wrong, they will make a statement that they don't care if it makes trump the president. what would you tell them? >> vice president harris: there is a real contrast in this race when you look at who stands for democracy. and democratic principles and who does not. donald trump is talking about an enemy. he is talking about using the american military to turn on american citizens. he talks in a way that suggests there should be retribution and severe consequences just because people disagree with him. my point is very clear. i believe in our democracy. democracy is a complicated th thing. in a wonderful way because we like debate and we accept and receive differences of opinion. and we work them out.

one of the reasons i am going to have a republican in my cabinet is because i want different views. i enjoy and benefit from diverse views from different perspectives that allow me to then make the best decisions i can make. that is the biggest difference between me and donald trump. that is the biggest difference between someone who is truly a leader and in it for themselves and wants and checked our. thank you all. >> sandra: kamala harris with four days to go until election day speaking out of madison, wisconsin, where sheba tried to run up and speak to rally goers on the ground. i believe she will head to janesville for the first stop. she has a couple of them. she is trying to secure victory in some of those northern midwest states. >> john: just a quick

fact-check on the list for j.d. vance, donald trump says he was basically talking about -- he believes she is a hawk who might think differently about war if she had to go out on the battlefield like brave men and women at the military. on this idea of using the military against americans, trump said they did not does it take to: the guard for riots. keep that in mind as we digest what the vice president said. a single district and nebraska could be crucial who gets the white house. he will take to the touch screen how significant this district is coming up nextw ve. ♪ ♪ the benefits that we as a country give you as a veteran is the eligibility for a va loan, for up to 100 percent of your home■s value. if you need cash for your family call newdayusa. with automatic authority from the va we can say yes when banks say no.

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>> the fentanyl crisis playing a role in tuesday's election. a study showing 32% of americans know someone who has died from an overdose. the next guest both lost their sons to the epidemic. while they support different candidates kanka both believe solving the crisis needs to be a priority for the next administration. joining us now can she lost her 26-year-old son in 2018. and jan allen lost or 22-year-old son benjamin last year. what do you want your message to be as we head towards this election? >> so i think it's important to share that i have been a

lifelong democrat and have always felt that my ideals most aligned with that party. so the loss of my son obviously had a significant impact on me and subsequently has impacted my views. going down the rabbit hole i essentially kind of identified, you know, things that, you know, kind of were missed on me. i don't know that board policies and thanks of that nature were a focal point. i was a little bit more focused on issues of public interest. i was very engaged him was going on in the pandemic and racial tension created by the george floyd, and so i come from a situation that has me aligned with that party, and so discovering that much of what's going on and the significance of the fentanyl epidemic is something that kind of slipped under the radar. i think something that feels kind of missed is the lack of discussion. it doesn't seem that the media

and again the democratic party has taken on the responsibility of creating awareness and really alerting the public of the national health crisis that the fentanyl epidemic has created, and so i think that's probably 1 of the things that's really kind of sent me down the path that sort of deviates from what i was aligned with originally. >> thank you very much for sharing that. i want to follow-up on a couple of points. to you now, your coming from a similar place but you have different ideas how to solve this crisis. please share your thoughts. >> first of all thank you for having in your show. donna i am so sorry for your loss. it's regretful that we are meeting under the circumstances by i appreciate all of your advocacy and all the moms and dads were out there advocating after such a tragic loss and we lost alec in 2018 actually on

his 26th birthday. he was doing tremendously well and suffered from substance use disorder. he was such a loving fun happy-go-lucky incredible athlete in the big brother and so this was devastating but the real tragedy is just the hundreds of thousands of lives that have been lost to so many families, and so again i'm very sorry. look. the thing is actions speak louder than words. and i will tell you i have a personal relationship with the vice president. i hosting 2019 she came into the house into our home in the first thing she said is show me the pictures. she wears our tragedy in the tragedy of so many across the country on her sleeve. we call her mom because she's very nurturing and wants to fix problems. she's only ever work for the people, and the things they have

done under her administration the biden-harris administration has been over $83 billion towards prevention, treatment and recovery. that's a 40% increase over the last for 4 years. $167 billion in total drug control funding over a 20% increase over the last for 4 years to seize historical amounts of illicit drugs at the border, arrest and prosecute dozens of leaders from some of the world's largest and most powerful drug cartels, and expand. >> we are about to cut off right at the top of this minute here, 56 after snack we are going to get cut off. i appreciate both of you if we want to have you both back. >> we appreciate you sharing your perspectives. >> the first time in 5 years. i really hope we can build on it >> thank you both. >> did you watch the news

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