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to my former president made some remarks and what exactly he said, but everyone there appears to be feeling very good. just found out as well that speaker mike johnson, the house speaker who is in shreveport, louisiana, right now at his district, appears to be making plans to come here to be with former president trump. back to you. >> martha: aishah, thank you very much. we will keep a close eye on trump headquarters as we continue to give you some more updates on what's going on right now. we don't have a call for any new states at this point. we are waiting for montana, waiting to get a look at the sheehy race and we have new guests on the panel we want to get to. let's welcome them in. >> bret: as we get ready for the top of the hour we will make some new calls at 11:00. >> martha: then we'll get right to you guys. wow, time is going so fast. there we go. >> bret: it is now 11:00 p.m.
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in new york, and four west coast states have just finished voting. the fox news decision desk can project that vice president harris will win california, the golden state. 54 electoral votes, the biggest prize, more than any other state in the country. >> martha: fox news counsel project that harris will win oregon, adding eight more votes to her electoral college vote. harris will also win washington, and other reliably democratic state. >> bret: but the former president will win idaho's four electoral college votes. as we see the race to 270, it is now 216-193. the race is changing quickly. i'm getting some word from the democrats who have now put out kind of a sense of the race, saying that in pennsylvania they say they are over performing turnout expectations in philadelphia and the early foot expectations in bucks county. they go into state by state of where they feel like they are going to see more votes in the
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states. these are the blue all states. because that is the path we are looking at. in wisconsin they say we know there is a significant amount of vote remaining in dane and milwaukee counties and signed the strong performance in the wow counties. we don't expect complete results from wisconsin until tomorrow morning between 3:00 a.m. and 5:00 a.m. we shall see. >> martha: we shall see. california senate race, as we talked about, can project at the current democratic congressman adam schiff will win his race against former major league baseball player steve garvey in that senate race. in washington's incumbent democratic senator maria cantwell will win her fifth term. not big surprises on that front this evening, either. so here's the balance of power in the senate. 49 for republicans. the majority is 51. they have slipped one seat. 42 for the democrats as we wait for a number of these big senate races to be called.
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ohio, montana, pennsylvania, all will really dictate the future of the senate. >> bret: in michigan. let's begin our panel. brit hume, dana perino, harold ford jr. pray they've been here a while. kevin o'leary, jessica tarlov, and been dominant. jessica, are you surprised? >> surprises a very generous term for how i'm feeling at this particular moment. it is in democrats nature to be anxious and we are certainly at peak anxiousness. i think the conversation that you are having in the last panel about the latino vote is really interesting. some of these numbers are little bit jaw-dropping, looking at potentially 45% for donald trump in some states. that has been a cause of real reckoning within the party. we talk about, message to come and integrate, a huge part of our base typically in all of this. i would say though that the panel of people i've been speaking to have said nothing has been called.
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our paths to 270 have not been blocked off. as we continue to get more vote in, that should add to the numbers that they messaged to you. detroit is coming in and detroit had a very good day with in-person voting today. in the suburbs of atlanta outperforming where biden was there. she's not doing as well in the rural areas as biden did and that is in a paying. i'm hearing more about blue wall, blue wall, and this morning we were talking about, if you pick up north carolina and georgia -- again, they're not off the map, but it's feeling more that laser focus on easiest route. >> martha: ben, welcome, first of all. good to see you tonight. i'm sitting here thinking about the resync republicans went through after mitt romney lost. they did this huge analysis of what was going on with the republican party and why they weren't reaching hispanic voters, why they couldn't reach working-class voters, why they
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weren't bringing more women, and it really is stunning when you think about that. that was mitt romney's loss, and it appears the person who has changed that calculus dramatically is donald trump. >> they called it an autopsy at the time and i think it has turned out to be an autopsy for a party that was dead, and i think that donald trump has done something incredible and resurrecting it with a new coalition that a lot of people never thought republicans were going to be able to reach, that they weren't going to be able to cut through a lot of these different fundamental problems that people thought were there in order to reach these different sets of the electorate. and look, i think the big question they have to be asking, how much of that is something the repu republican party going forward can build on. regardless of whatever ends up happening here tonight and tomorrow morning, in terms of these wall states, these are the
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most political comebacks we've seen since 1968, and the remaking of the republican coalition in a way that was unexpected by all but a handful of people, and how they build on that, how they choose to prioritize policies going forward can make a big difference in whether they are able to hold onto it in the future or whether it is something that goes away if donald trump isn't at the top of the ticket. >> bret: kevin o'leary, mr. wonderful, the markets now have it at 92.5% for donald trump winning this election to kamala harris, 7.0%. you are a market guy. how do you read this? >> i'm going to stay on this theme for a moment and call this perhaps the greatest night the democratic party can ever have if they lose. and let me explain that. i was very troubled just over 100 days ago when they circumvented the democratic process and anointed somebody. the analogy is easy to a super bowl. you arrive at the super bowl
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game and by any measure this is the super bowl of global politics, the presidential race. your quarterback, biden, is injured. he is taken out of the game. you don't bring a quarterback in that has never, ever won any game, anywhere. you run a process, and they missed that opportunity. i'm not saying they're going to lose, but going to those percentages and saying they get to reboot. they get to go back to the center. they get to scratch this whole thing, and the influences of schumer or pelosi or a movie star or obama deciding to anoint somebody, those guys are gone and four years. they won't have this kind of influence. this could be great for america. i'm an investor. i have to work with whoever is in the white house in january. but i care about policy. when i hear policies coming out of the party that are so twisted against the american way of l
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life, basically taxing capital gains that are unrealized, that is not america. or price controls, that's not america. 28% tax rate takes us to the bottom quartile of competition. that's bad. we can't do that. that would hurt the country. all i do is work with entrepreneurs who want to build businesses. there is a reason people come here under barbed wire and drown in reverse to get to the american dream. it's the only thing the president has to do is maintain it. those policies are against the american dream, and i have nothing against harris. i mean, look, she did a masterful job in getting to where she is. it would be good for them to lose tonight. it would reset and reboot and get that party back to the center. it would be good for them. they may not want to hear that. >> we don't. [laughter] >> kevin, i would love to win and to the reboot. we can still do those things. will bring you right into the
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party to help us do it! >> bret: we are going to take a pause or hear because they have a big call to make right now. >> martha: we do indeed. we can now project that republican businessman bernie marino, who started his entrepreneurial career in the car company and buying auto shops in ohio, has won and unseated incumbent democratic senator, sherrod brown, who has been an ohio institution foa lot of years. this is an important flip for republicans. ththe parties edging toward a majority tonight and there are still a couple places yet to be heard from in the senate races. >> bret: think about this. if the democrats would somehow hold onto the jon tester seat, that would be a different math, but as you look at the balance of power in the u.s. senate, is this marina speaking right now? can we go in there? >> martha: let's listen in for a couple minutes here. [applause]
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>> look, today starts a new wave. we've talked about wanting a red wave, i think what we have tonight is a red, white, and blue waves in this country. [cheers and applause] what we need in the united states of america is leaders in washington, d.c., that actually put the interest of american citizens above all else. we are tired of being treated like second-class citizens in our own country. we are tired of leaders that think we are garbage. and we are tired of being treated like garbage. [applause] my opponent talked a lot about helping the working man, and i will agree with him on the need to help working americans. but the difference is talk without action is nothing. so what we are going to do, thanks to now having a republican majority, by the way -- how about that? in the united states senate.
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[applause] and chuck schumer, if you're watching, thanks for the help in the primary, but you're fired, buddy. [applause] this is a new dawn of republican leadership. where president trump and j.d. vance in the white house are going to advance an agenda that is an american agenda, an agenda that says we are pro-immigration but not pro-invasion. we are going to make certain that the people who come to this country are invited here, like i was, like my family was, on our terms. we are going to make this country and energy domination so that my kids do not grow up in a country where we ever rely on a foreign nation for energy, ever, ever again. [cheers and applause] and we have the energy right here in ohio.
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that means coal, natural gas, it means oil, and it means nuclear. in terms of ev mandates, they need to be gone first thing in january. >> bret: bernie moreno, the winner of the u.s. senate seat in ohio. this is a major pickoff for an incumbent senator in sherrod brown that ran ads that said he was at least working with former president trump. he ran heavily on the issue of abortion and thought that they were going to make headway there. they were all kinds of poles, including the one we talked about earlier, that had democrats fired up about women in the midwest. sherrod brown won in 2006, 2012, and 2018. he was prolabor. they thought he was safe at the beginning. this race was well run by bernie moreno and this puts them closer to a senate majority. he says it is a senate majority and there is still a possibility that jon tester hold on in montana, although he was behind
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going in. deb fischer and nebraska, still watching that race very closely. but if they hold all of those, you could have a scenario where you're looking at 52-48, 53-47. >> martha: you absolutely could. it's worth pointing out that these senate candidates, if he is one of a few potentially as bret just said, they all close very strong. these races were not considered competitive. you didn't see them on tv a lot because they weren't really considered to be in the game. but they are closing very strong and we are going to keep an eye on all of them as we do. it's interesting to point out, his family emigrated here from columbia , colombia, and it raises questions about how immigrants feel about immigration. because he is very much in favor of closing the board it down. >> bret: brother an ambas ambassador. >> garrett tenney, are reported in the midwest come he sent a couple pieces for us on a couple of small towns, one in ohio and
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one in indiana, that completely doubled overnight, almost, by immigrants. he talked to families. they can't go to school anymore and they dropped out because of it he could be taught anymore. no one can find a place to live. i'll be interested to see what sandra smith pours out of ohio. donald trump ran very strong in ohio and that will help. i think it even helped ted cruz come even though i think ted cruz was always going to win. it helped him win by a larger margin. the other point is sherrod brown has been there forever. incumbents usually win. the past four years have seen a remarkable amount of incumbents all around the world come up and down the ticket. you think it would happen to the conservative party, the tory party in the u.k., they lost everything because it was a throw the bums out type of election, and kamala harris is basically weighed down by the biden a administration, and she couldn't come up with something she would change. i think people are reacting to that. >> you have a state like ohio
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where sherrod brown was able to hang on, even though it's been basically a red state for quite some time, and sometimes the migration of this kind of party move in a state takes a little while, couple cycles. >> bret: surprised by this? >> sherrod brown, there were a lot of democrats that thought you thought, the way you posited the question, he's held on a long time and he's run test races and had appeal to enough republicans over the many years. but moreno was a great candidate for them. he hung in there, and what it goes to show also is this issue of energy security, it's going be interesting to see how this continues to play out in pennsylvania this evening. ohio and pennsylvania both, even montana, where energy is a big, big issue, these three democrats have run against the challenge here they can't overcome. >> bret: to each think it shows you a little bit of a break in the blue wall? if ohio is ten points, and bernie moreno takes off sherrod brown, as you're looking in wisconsin, michigan, and pennsylvania, there are several issues in the states.
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>> bret the answer for me is an unfortunate resounding yes. you can see where the crack could come if not a collapse. >> one last point, $161 million spent on the bernie moreno race by the senate leadership fund. mcconnell -- $161 million. >> that is in part because they understand, if we have one more of these things flip, think about what it does to the supreme court and the decisions made by some of the justices. >> and one seat away from the majority for the republicans, and the republicans have been counting as if it were a done deal all along in the montana senate. it is very little vote in, which i think is the reason it is too early to call. not too close to call because at this hour, according to what you just showed me at that map, that wonderful map of yours, jon tester, the democratic incumbent, is well behind with only 6%. >> bill: seems like he's just
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getting going little bit there. >> that is in line with what has been the expectation. >> bret: if you look at ohio, it is a similar issue to mike rogers in michigan. and there are similar issues in pennsylvania. we are going to take a quick break right here. the race slowly taking shape. 270 is the electoral votes needed to win. the vote count changing by the minute. check out that popular vote. check out the popular vote. our special coverage continues after this. ♪ ♪ >> announcer: election night on fox news channel is brought to you by simply safe home security. there is no safe like simplisafe.
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♪ ♪ >> bret: welcome back to our coverage of a big election night. things are shifting by the moment. we are too early to call right now. the decision desk says in georgia, north carolina, pennsylvania, and wisconsin, as you look at these on the screen there, you can see that georgia, 90% in. as bill talked about earlier, the atlanta vote, we are still waiting on that. that could be why the decision desk is holding back. north carolina, also 89% in 3,136,000 votes. that is starting to get into territory which is tough to close, depending on where that vote stands out. the big states that we are watching are the blue wall states. pennsylvania and wisconsin, 65%
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and 75% in pay but again, the former president leading now, and the question is, how much of that vote showed up for vice president harris in the philadelphia area, the suburbs, the bucks county areas in pennsylvania? we also have an update from wisconsin. >> martha: indeed we do. mike tobin is standing by with an update. this has really been the biggest problem area that we have seen at least so far. we are waiting for a number of the cities, mike. give us an update on what is going on with the machines they are and what expect. >> we are hearing more from the election officials and they still want to push off the idea that this was a legitimate mistake and they have recounted these 31,000 ballots, or retabulated these 31,000 ballots out of an abundance of caution. we are looking at one of the tabulation machines. if you look at the back of the tabulation machine you should be able to see some red stickers. those red stickers are the seals. the seals were in place on these 13 machines. what was not engaged is the
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locking mechanisms on the doors there. the machines operated for hours when a republican observer noticed it, flagged that particular problem. the city and also the executive director of the wisconsin electric commission says the 31,000 ballots were run through again, as she put it, so no one could use a procedural misstep to call the legitimate votes into question. that is megan wolf, the executive director of the wisconsin election commission. i talked with wisconsin senator ron johnson. he said the whole process is sloppy. >> republican observer is going, that is locked, properly sealed. why didn't they do that? this has been sloppy, and as the chairman of our party said, they've got one job to do and they didn't do it very well. >> here at central count there are some 108,325 ballots. these are the mail-in ballots, drop box ballots, and in person absentee ballots.
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some 80,000 of these ballots have now been counted, but the whole process has been delayed because 31,000 had to go through a second time. guys, back to you. >> bret: mike tobin, thanks. an update from our own chad pergram talking to democrats and republicans about the house races, as we are looking at the senate and they are poised to take control if they hold the rest. the house is looking like it very well could flip to the democrats. a couple of races, in virginia, we are not calling that but they are looking really good. there's a few races in new york here. the brandon williams race to john mannion. so dems essentially -- we won't know until california, they are doing what they need to do to hit the marks and flipped the house. so that could be a bright spot for democrats tonight. >> martha: let's go to look -- we're going to trace gallagher and to talk to him and his panel out on the west coast, because they are waiting for a lot of california
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races, as bret was just saying. trace, tell us what you are seeing out there on the list because tonight. >> we are going to pick up the last three hours of this coverage tonight, martha, so we are gearing up for that. it's interesting, the big news, california no surprise went to kamala harris. interesting because proposition 36, a big story here in california, that would revise proposition 47, which lowered the threshold of crime. it really allowed crime in california to run rampant. we have our panel here. steve hilton, jody armour, kaylee mcghee white, and gianno caldwell. steve, to you quickly, prop 36 is winning dramatically right now. it is expected to win. it would be a big deal for this state. >> it's a massive deal because it shows that people have had enough of this far left attitude on crime. it's not just that proposition. you see it on some of the other ones, rent control and raising the minimum wage. it is a really interesting shift. if i may, trace, the other big point for us in california, you look at this massive
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reconstruction of the republican party under donald trump's leadership and the latino vote here in california, the largest group now, and this points to the future of the republican party. because actually, if you think about the latino vote, how long have we been told that the democrats benefit from the diversity of the nation and the future? look what's happening. the more diverse america becomes, the better republicans can do if we keep going with this new republican party that trump has fashioned. >> it's a very good point. it's interesting, kaylee mcghee white. he talked about proposition 36, and kamala harris was asked about prop 36. she would not weigh in on this. she wouldn't say whether she voted for or against it. and that is significant. >> this was one of many policies where she refused to provide a clear answer on where she stood. the strategy of avoidance we have seen repeatedly throughout
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this campaign from her was a gamble. she thought that because she was slipping in the campaign at the last minute and running against trump that voters wouldn't notice or wouldn't care that she was giving them a whole bunch of nothing. but i will just say, i'm from one of the swing states, from michigan. even in the swing states it matters a lot where kamala harris stands on something like proposition 36. if she doesn't want california to take crime seriously, what about the rest of the country? >> nobody to cry more seriously than gianno caldwell. you have studied this, gianno, and this is a big deal going forward for california should this pass. >> that's why i started the caldwell institute for public safety. i'm glad to see that many voters in the state of california have been pushing back against crime. unfortunately gavin newsom has been very supportive of the initiative of prop 47. he thinks there shouldn't be any changes. but this is a major problem. i think we see this not just with this particular prop come up with a lot of progressive prosecutors funded by george soros. people like george gascon who people are fed up with. and that's why nathan hoffman running for district attorney of
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los angeles county is predicted to potentially win this one really big. i think the democrats have fashioned the idea that if you're soft on crime this going to be criminal justice reform when in fact there is nothing but justice for the criminal. >> is probably going to win big, jodi armour, but the governor is against it. you think it'll raise the number of people going to california prisons. >> the fact that harris wouldn't answer the question about what she voted on this, that former prosecutor, she sat on the top cop. that she is law and order. >> she was the one behind prop 47. >> she is a fiction-list weather vane. she gives you that impression. blowing in whatever direction the wind blows. she's willing to go there, and that was another example. she says, i was the top cop, maybe i see the error of my ways, i see crime going in the certain direction. but instead she does this fiction list weather vane routine. >> but you can't expect her to do that when she was the one
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posting links about rioters and looters during the george floyd era. this is not somebody about law and order. >> 317, kaylee mcghee white, steve, jody, thank you. martha will be here later and that would have her but he gets tired here in new york and will handle it from there. back to you guys. >> bret: thank you very much. we are looking into a lot of different numbers coming in. this is all baking. bill is at the ball trying to going to different places. wisconsin is on the board right now. bill, what have you got? >> bill: just picked up something from "the new york times." i was trying to look at this on the map, and it's true. right now donald trump, in the big cities of america, miami, chicago, new york, dallas, and houston, he is improving on his margins from 2020 by double digits. you think about that, since covid, think about immigration, you think about the homeless
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crisis, he think about how our cities have changed over the past four years, maybe that has had an impact. when looking at here is wisconsin. i want to point out to kill things and compare that to what's happening in pennsylvania. because i think there is a trend that is favorable toward trump. dane county, taking you back to 2020. i'll just compare the numbers for biden and kamala harris. this is madison, university of wisconsin, et cetera. ten the democratic votes. so she is underperforming biden's mark by about 1.7 points. that could be tens of thousands of votes. trump meanwhile is up about 1.4 going back to four years ago. let me come up here to la crosse. to get democratic votes here in la crosse. right along the border with minnesota. this is biden four years ago. it's not quite 2.5, but it's close to it, where she is underperforming in a county
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where she should be doing better. and here you go, trump doing 2.5 points better in that particular county in wisconsin. we'll keep an eye on that. a little broader, come back to 2024. hang on one second, guys. we are going to pennsylvania. try and prove a similar theory in two places. one is allegheny in pittsburgh, and other is philadelphia. we will put this map into motion and put this slide bar out. she is merely meeting her number in allegheny, off half a point. trump is doing slightly better, just 0.6 points. the last time i looked at that, she was dead even with the number from joe biden percentagewise. come over here to philadelphia. if you are a democrat and you want to win the state, you got to run your numbers up in philadelphia. this kind of matches what i just read from america's big cities. in philadelphia, she is underperforming biden's mark from four years ago. and trump is outperforming come over preferring where he was four years ago. when you think about the number
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of votes that are available in philadelphia, 300,000, that is a huge difference. you can run the totals up and never looked back oftentimes in pennsylvania if you are a democrat running with a number like that. let's take this off the screen. and come on back to 2024. you guys were asking how come we can't call north carolina. we may be getting closer because mecklenburg is in, and wake is pretty much in. this is greensboro. a lot of campaigning down there. it is a fast growing area, about 22% of the estimated vote still outstanding. it is an impressive number. let's just see with joe biden. pretty close to where biden was. the raw number is lower, but on a percentage basis she is just about hitting her number. and trump is a little higher, just a little bit there from
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four years ago. maybe that's the reason you can't make a call in north carolina. maybe. maybe that changes in a moment here. we will see. this is georgia. too seem to call yet again. let's see with the 134,000. that has been consistent for a while now on a percentage basis. not much movement. trump is favored just under 3%. i could go hunting around trying to figure out why you can't call it. i would have to think maybe dekalb county, still got a little bit of the vote out there. at here to gwinnett county, as well. a little bit of vote out there. democrats score their points in fulton, cobb, gwinnett, and dekalb county. too soon to call for the peach state. >> listen to this. jen o'malley dillon, i quoted from it earlier. they are kind of painting the picture of the blue wall and how they are doing good things in pennsylvania and wisconsin and michigan. but at the end, she says will
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continue to keep y'all updated as we get more information. this is what we have built for, so let's finish up what we have in front of us tonight, get some sleep, and get ready to close out strong tomorrow. so the harris campaign -- sorry, it is the biden folks that run the harris campaign now -- essentially saying, let's pack up and get some sleep and see in the morning. >> that reminds me of bill clinton in 2016. he came out and said, we are all going to kind of sleep on this and see how all of this works. everybody else was saying we are calling the states. >> we may. stay with us. we are watching it all as our special coverage continues. and we could have some big calls coming straight ahead. whether they are up tonight or not. ♪ ♪
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>> martha: they are loud breaks occasionally. richard, welcome. good heavy hear, hear. >> good to be here. >> martha: how are you feeling about how things are going? we have seen this memo from the campaign that says they are continuing to see how things look tomorrow. can you answer to that at all? >> i think we all knew this would be a long election night and it would take time to count all these oats. i think what you're seeing from the memo leaked by jen o'malley dillon the few moments ago speaks to that, that we don't have a clear winner and there are still votes being counted. last time i checked before i came in here i think 1% in wayne county or detroit was counted. so we have a lot more votes left to be counted in parts of the blue wall. i think for the harris walls campaign they are banking on this blue wall to in this campaign. at this point nobody can spike the football until all the american people have their say. >> martha: we haven't called any battleground states. >> sean is the exception to the rule.
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spew on the best when he said, i'm not going to get over my skis but i'm going to get over my skis. [laughter] katie, what do you think? >> the numbers on hispanic men, for example, and the youth vote, the fact that donald trump is running ahead of kamala harris according to the number of exit polls. and why it didn't appeal to the message. and look at the slow death of identity politics in this election. the kamala harris campaign tried to argue that people should vote for her based on identity politics, whereas the trump campaign, accused of being hitler, fascist, wanting to implement and get rid of democracy, essentially, is running ahead with those groups. that is not something that they expected. those were the key people they needed to get her over the finish line. the night is not over, but long-term democrats are going to have to think about losing their
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coalition and how they're going to get it back. you can't just argue that someone is a nazi, essentially. you have to have something to offer and they are saying, if we are running this far behind in these places we are looking at, it's going to be a tough climb getting to that 270. >> martha: one of the interesting things that strikes me as you say that is that the character issue was dug into so deeply by the harris campaign and by democrats writ large across the country. kayleigh, it looks like not only did the 48% that has been rock-solid for trump throughout the entire course of his run -- not only did they not care about that issue, we know him, we have seen all of this, and what we watch is the policy results, whatever they're saying. but added people on top of that, despite these character issues
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that were so drilled on by kamala harris in his campaign. >> i think you make a really important point. two voters come to mind when you make that analysis pray there was a vote in "the new york times" who followed this group of undecided voters. this voter said, i was 50.01% likely to vote for trump. he didn't like him personally, he didn't like his affects, he didn't like him. then kamala harris came on the scene and he wanted to know how she differed from joe biden on inflation. he ended up discovering she doesn't, and he went by a 51% margin for trump. he said, i still don't like the guy, but that tipped me over the edge. another voter i saw today, he had not voted in an election since obama. he said, i'm a blue-collar worker. i'm here voting today because of no tax on overtime. i think if donald trump prevails tonight, we have to look at his workingmen agenda. no tax on overtime, limit on interest on credit cards, no tax on tips. this holistic look that perhaps
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not just realigns the party on blue-collar workers, but demographically, as well. >> for years we have heard from the biden-harris a administration that americans are not suffering, that inflation wasn't happening, then it was transitory, then we just had to deal with it even though it wasn't getting better. that has been something the campaign has struggled with. they eventually came in to grocery prices being too high. the essential argument was that donald trump is a bad guy. therefore he should vote for us pete even though we're not going to detail what our policy plans are. and you are seeing with a number of groups that they are saying, we actually need some hard economic policy because we are hurting, and they have been told to either deal with it or that it's not happening. and the harris campaign has not had an answer for those folks outside of what they have tried. >> i think that issue that donald trump is a bad guy worked for them in 2020 in particular. people tell me all the time, no way joe biden got 80 million votes. i kind of agree with that. i think donald trump got those
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80 million votes. in the passage of time and with the reckoning of the biden administration, those concerns faded. while i don't think a lot -- i think a lot of people voted for him without much enthusiasm for him, but definitely thinking it was a better deal back then than they were getting from this it administration. if he wins tonight, they look back on his it administration more fondly than we thought they could even two years ago. >> bret: we've said it before, dana, about what former president trump has faced. if you look at what they call lawfare and what he faced in manhattan, he still faces a sentencing at the end of november. he is still facing other cases. there is an appeal of the attorney general's case, letitia james, that the appeals court looks like it actually was siding with donald trump. and they could have a ruling that either strikes it down or
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reduces it dramatically right after the election, and the vice president harris used that in many ads to say that he was convicted and he also lost the civil case. it's pretty amazing that we are where we are. >> it is, and i wish i were shannon bream right now, because i don't know all of the legal issues. [laughter] >> bret: but you know the sense at 30,000 feet. >> again it is one of those things that you think of all he withstood, but it is also this result of the states that are coming in so far, because of what they did. and he didn't let it bring him down. so he would sit in the courtroom all day and then he would go campaign at night and go do a rally and be back in court the next day. if you think even just about the creativity of the campaign, like at mcdonald's, et cetera, they were just beating her to the punch every single time. >> bret: a quick call. >> they completely dropped the felon argument katie don't even hear it. you didn't hear it through the course of most of the campaign.
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>> bret: fox news decision desk can now project that former president donald trump will win the state of north carolina. this has been a contested state. vice president harris went there many times. a democratic governor in a state of north carolina. you saw former president trump go there a number of times, about four times in the past two weeks to campaign. the campaign always felt that they were in a good position in north carolina. now we can project that he will win the state of north carolina and 16 electoral votes. the fox news decision desk can now also project that vice president harris will win new mexico. that was a tight race, it tightened in recent days, the vice president harris will win new mexico. as we look at the race to 270, the electoral votes needed, it now stands at 232 for former president trump and 198 for vice president harris.
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>> martha: that makes north carolina the state and the battlegrounds that trump has won three times. it was the only battleground state that he locked down in 2020. so obviously a relief at the trump campaign that he has kept that one in his column, as will come as we continue to move on. >> bret: peter doocy is live at the white house. what he's hearing from the harris campaign and the harris path tonight. peter? >> we will start with what we are hearing here at the white house, and that is nothing. they told us president biden and some longtime advisors were inside watching the results come in on tv, but we have been here outside noticing that a lot of lights that were on within the white house, at least from the part we can see, have been turning off. so it seems like some folks around here may be taking the campaign cochair jen o'malley dillon's advice in that memo that they should get some sleep and prepare for some results in the morning. there have been three big changes in the world the harris
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team has been presenting their case to us in the last couple hours. as a result started coming in, they were telling us where they saw a silver lining in all of the battleground states. they were also telling us they thought they had a plausible case to win in all seven battleground states and something over the last 36 hours they have been pushing a lot is that they thought trump could come out and declare victory early. we are not hearing much of any of that anymore, the memo that the campaign cochair put out is pretty broad and just something that they have been telling us since the summer when harris took over, that the blue wall is one of the pathways to victory. that is not new information. that is just what they have got right now. vice president harris remains at the naval observatory right now. we don't know if she shows up your campaign headquarters. but they took the press pool and they told them to stand by. if joe biden is giving anybody
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watching an indication of how he feels about all these races, that he has really not been a part of, he has made six congratulatory calls, and four of the six are to people who just won in delaware where he's heading next. >> bret: peter doocy thank you. another call to make. >> martha: that's right. we cannot let you know that the fox decision desk can project that vice president harris will indeed win the state of virginia. this was much closer, a state that the trump team felt they might be able to expand the map, but better than he did in the prior elections, but this has been called for vice president harris. and president trump did better with nonmade men then he did four your school in virginia, which seems to be a theme we are seeing in a lot of the states. that all according to the fox news voter analysis. >> bret: i want to bring back our panel but i want to read an email that came from jacqui heinrich moments ago. i will read from it. three sources close to harris are expressing concern that the
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hat path to victory may be too narrow to overcome. one source says "her path is so narrow and she's not doing what she needs to do in pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin." the exit polls i saw hours ago are all accurate. they need to suddenly outperform those. i don't believe it will happen." a second source close to harris told me, "i 100% agree, the fat democrat to victory is very difficult. he should be losing by larger margins in pennsylvania and michigan." a third source saying close to the campaign, "i think we are losing this. i think we are losing this." hearing where that vice president harris may come to howard university soon but not for another hour. harold ford jr.? >> consistent with race in the senate between bob casey and dave mccormick, it looks like mccormick is leading by a point, point and a half. we will monitor that and i think, if you win that race,
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it's very likely that president trump will win the commonwealth, as well. building on some of the points from my friends on the other side of the table, my party often says that donald trump didn't do enough on the border, that he rejected a bill that would have been a compromise, that he didn't lay out specifics. he said no taxes on tips, no taxes on overtime, that it wasn't a full-throated economic plan. all that may be true, but sometimes politics and life isn't fair, and he's a different kind of candidate. this race is not over. we have got the blue wall here to hold, but if we look back at this, one of the things this campaign is going to wish they had done probably more effectively was to just lay out a bit of a plan on the economy and inflation and growth. to lay out a plan to maybe say we should have reinstated or kept in place some of the trump board or executive orders as we looked to find ways to do things differently. because just going back and looking at things wasn't working with voters, and the polling
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data showed that. the fact that we have more wealth today than we did three years ago, more innovation, more cures and therapeutics, more oil than we did three years ago, and he couldn't figure out how to run on that and capitalize on that. we talk about reconstituting our party, those are some of the things we will have to do. if you are successful tonight, i hope president trump is willing to reach out to us as well and figure out ways in which to grow the country for every american. >> don't you think he's done that? look at the coalition is built. there's been an underestimation of what the definition of protecting democracy is. rfk jr., tulsi gabbard who is in charge of the dnc at a certain point, saying there's all this lawfare, you are suing to keep rfk jr. off the ballot. nicole shanahan, one of his vice presidential candidates at the time, feels the same way, and people look at that and say he's building a coalition that actually works. >> bret baier wrote a great piece for foxnews.com about unity and what happens with these races. this is one of the most divisive races in my 54 years of life.
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my only point, whoever wins, if it is president trump and it looks like it might be, it's time to heal and move forward. i don't disagree, but it's going to take more than that. i am willing to work with him if he wants to do that, but it's going to take each side wanting to do it. >> bret: we are making a call here. standby. ♪ ♪ >> martha: fox news projects that the republicans will take control of the united states senate. the party will hold at least 51 seats, which is enough for an outright majority. >> bret: the tipping point for this is nebraska. fox news canal project that republican incumbent senator deb fischer will defeat independent challenger dan osborne. this was a very tight race. republican incumbent pulling this outcome and that means, because of bernie moreno and les regina, it goes over the top as
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far as the senate majority but we don't know the final number yet. >> martha: we are still waiting for the tim sheehy race in montana, that i think a lot of republicans felt it was something they were relying on. we will see if that turns out to be the case. it's not clear yet who would serve as the next senate majority leader. republican leader mitch mcconnell, the longest serving senate leader in history, announced earlier this year that he would step down, so there's a lot of speculation about who might take that role. of course that will be the next conversation to have for the leadership in the senate. but right now if 51-seat majority for the senate, 42 seats for democrats. and this is a big deal if president trump wins again. he needs this majority in the senate. we don't know what's going happen in the house if indeed -- >> bret: and we have seen some evidence that democrats are having some success in the house. the question comes in the west and california. but this is a big deal,
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brit hume. this is a flip of the senate majority, and now chuck schumer will no longer be the majority leader. this is something that republicans looked at their map at the beginning and said this looks good for us. they didn't know how good, and we still don't know how good it's going to be tonight. >> at the possibility that if trump wins he has the senate and the question becomes if the republicans can maintain control of the house. there has been a lot of confidence in the betting markets that they would throughout this evening, but just to keep you up-to-date, the margin on the betting odds has shrunk a little bit. >> bret: holding on to all three. >> for mitch mcconnell, what a way to leave, right? with another win. again, if president trump wins the presidency, another way to say he recruited great candidates this year. steve daines, the senator from montana who ran the whole operation, the senate leadership fund spent millions of dollars very strategically and they had to help with $3 million at the
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last minute to help the senator of nebraska to get across the finish line. she barely did, but she made it. >> amid harsh criticism of mcconnell from a not insignificant wing of the republican party on the right. >> bret: let's also not discount the success of former president trump in the states, kayleigh, definitely in the case of bernie moreno with a 10-put win in ohio. it takes them over the finish line, we don't know. mike rogers, dave mccormick, and in montana, sheehy. >> there was a long and big conversation even when you go back at midterm cycles about president trump potentially dragging down tickets and hurting senate candidates. in fact it seems like senate candidates are finding coattails with president trump. interestingly, when we assess the prospect of keeping the house majority, steve scalise said we need at least an 8-10 seat buffer.
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he suspects, should donald trump prevail, and it's looking very good for him right now, several house members will depart and various cabinet members and the administration. so you have to start thinking about that. that is a political cancellation you can solve. on the inside it is something to think about nonetheless. i would say this, the word on other networks i'm hearing constantly is the word "underperforming" for kamala harris. we are seeing it repeatedly and among demographics. she is underperforming, and while we don't have results right now, we do have trends, and the trends do not look at it. >> bret: let me just interrupt. as we see on the screen here, this is wisconsin, 1.2 million to the incumbent. if we could flip it over to michigan, mike rogers has a lead on slotkin in that race. 50.3 to 46.9. these races, they fall in the same category. as i mentioned before, ohio, michigan, wisconsin, they have a lot of the same issues.
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energy, all of them campaign similarly, and they all appear to be doing well, and maybe outperforming. >> just a couple things about the senate. remember that vice president harris said she was open to ending the filibuster if it meant that was what was necessary to restore roe v. wade. there was also discussion -- not hammered too much on the campaign trail, but the idea of making puerto rico and d.c. states has been kicked around for a long time. possibly expanding the supreme court. so these are ideas that i think in many ways were galvanizing to a lot of voters, and we are seeing what's happening in the united states senate. so if this -- well, we know now that there is a majority, so at least in the short term. >> bret: eventually we will check in with chad pergram on capitol hill and continue with our panel. we have some more raw vote total coming in. a lot of numbers at the rates for 270 continues. more results and analysis. could we make some more calls coming up?
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>> bret: welcome back. >> martha: so there's a number of states that we are not able to call yet. we're waiting for some big calls momentarily. we're still looking at some of the senate races, we're still looking at milwaukee, of course. we're waiting for pennsylvania, michigan, a number of these big
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battleground states. >> bret: wisconsin as well. pennsylvania, a lot of raw vote total coming in. you can look out in arizona where it is very tight early. it's about half in. georgia now seems like it's getting close to being baked here. 93% in, 50.8. 83% in pennsylvania. bill, you want to chat about pennsylvania? >> what i set up for you, bret, what the night is all about, right? how to get to 270. if you punch around the map and see the margins, i'm going to do something. i'm not getting ahead of anything here. i want to tell you, as it stands right now, if you were to call this entire thing, you know, harris at 216, trump at 232. you know, if -- i know you're going to make a call. it's midnight on the
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