>> what do you think about all the celebrities with their mass exodus? do you think prince harry is going to lose his visa now that trump's president? thank you, oprah! >> sean: now, according to the fec, oprah's production company harpo was paid a million dollars, but she'll have some explaining to do. we turn to something more important. we want to take a moment to acknowledge and thank all of those who served on this veterans day. we honor all the men and women that have sacrificed so much for our liberty and our freedom. thank you for all you've done. god bless you and your families. all right, that's all the time we have left this evening. please set your dvr so you never, ever, ever miss an episode of "hannity." let not your heart be troubled. greg gutfeld is standing by to put a smile on your face. have a great night. [ ♪♪ ]

[cheering and applause] >> greg: there's no crying here! [laughter] happy monday, everyone. today is veterans day. [cheering and applause] it's the day tim walz recalls the terrifying combat he witnessed while watching "saving private ryan." it was a good one. i just [bleep] it up. but because it's a federal holiday, a lot of stuff is closed including banks, the post office, and bill clinton's pants. [laughter] there was a big veteran's day parade in new york city today. it was a mix of 20,000 marchers, 25 floats, and a few dozen kenyans from last week's marathon. [laughter]

they always win. on wednesday, president biden will host donald trump at the white house for a traditional post-election meeting. i don't want to tell trump what to do, but if i were him, bring a few bottles of febreeze. while walking on the beach sunday, president biden stumbled multiple times. i guess that's what happens when you try to scatter your own remains. [laughter] poor taste. leonardo dicaprio turns 50 today. to celebrate he's taking his girlfriend to get her learner's permit. [laughter] a yale psychiatry fellow told msnbc it's okay to cancel thanksgiving plans with relatives who voted for trump. also endorsing the effort, trump voters. [laughter] [applause] >> greg: yeah!

nick bosa, is that his name, of the 49ers, was fined by the nfl for pointing to his maga hat during a broadcast. the fine will go toward promoting lgbtq sports also known as soccer. [laughter] trump has named former i.c.e. director tom homan as his border czar, and to prove that he's not messing around, homan asked melania for her paperwork. [laughter] all right! that was fun. so it's post-mortems galore. watching the media point fingers at everyone but themselves. but really this is just a mass misdirection in an effort to save what's left of their credibility. like true psycho paths, the media lacks the empathy to realize we know they're lying and we knew it's been them all along. what you're seeing now is a ruse. see, the media is like the creep

who gets rid of the spouse but then volunteers to lead the search party. except in this case it was a disappearance of truth and now they're volunteering to search for it, telling us where to look and actually expecting us to include them even though they're metaphorically covered in blood and brian stelter is actually covered in tomato sauce. but they're terrified not just of trump but of losing their influence. so now they're starting to sound like us. >> interesting message for democrats. maureen dowd's piece for "the new york times" entitled the democrats and the case of mistaken identity politics. some democrats are finally waking up and realizing that woke is broke. democratic insiders thought people would vote for kamala harris even if they didn't like her to get rid of trump, but more people ended up voting for trump even though many didn't

like him because they liked the democratic party less. >> greg: now, remember, that's the same duo who blamed kamala's loss on racist, black, and hispanic men so maybe they finally ran out of people to scapegoat, and the only targets left are in the mirror except they keep breaking those. listen to this person dishing out advice... >> too many people either didn't buy it and didn't show up or were willing to price in the risk because other issues were more important to them. and the answer to that failure isn't to say fascism doesn't matter, it does. or to say everyone who didn't vote for harris for not hearing or understanding the threat. it's for candidates to rethink how they prioritize what they talk about moving forward. it's to think about how they engage moving forward. do that joe rogan podcast, by the way. >> greg: a little late. jen, i'd say quit while you're

ahead but you're so far ahead you need to circle back to wipe your own butt. dems are sounding the alarm on what trump will do. geraldo made this prediction while wearing a shirt. don't worry, geraldo. if trump takes a third term, you'll be too old to know what a president is. many predict trump will break the law or violate the constitution. sorry, he's not going to put "the view" in an internment camp although they could use the exercise. but they assume republicans would go along with law breaking like using the levers of government to target political opponents. in other words, they assume republicans are just like them but they're not. and it shows that the media and the dems don't know any actual republicans. the closest they've come is smelling one of liz cheney's farts in the green room. for republicans, the constitution, bill of rights, that comes first. if trump tries to

unconstitutionally take away anyone's rights, we'll be first in line to stop it. we always are. after all, isn't trump's main promise that he's going to enforce the damn law, as in have a border, remove criminal gangs, restore order to the cities? show me this great respect for the law that the dems have. was it when kamala helped bail out the rioters? what about a president that's incapacitated? isn't a president who keeps falling down supposed to step down? this guy was more responsible for spills than a waitress with tourette's. yet no 25th amendment or forced resignation, a move, by the way, that prevented the first black woman from becoming president. yet they accuse you of bigotry because you didn't vote for harris. now, never mind that trump increased his numbers with blacks, hispanics, and, yes,

even suburban white women. turn out it's more about inclusion than the democrats himself. that must be a real kick in the nuts to this woman. and these accusations of racism are coming from people who said nothing when the democratic party itself rejected kamala. kamala's 2020 primary for president made the hindenburg look like spacex, but we're the racist ones? fact is kamala is about as popular with both parties as crabs are at a nudist colony. she had to appear with liz cheney so she wouldn't be the least popular person on stage. but it's so much easier just to call us nazis. it's easier than reporting on a candidate who can't answer a question without cackling like a hyena who is twirling on the wrong end of an electric toothbrush. [laughter]

but it was them who didn't want her or they could have had her. i mean, she could have gone president. use the 25th amendment. that would have been lawful actually. so why didn't they do that? was it racism? was it misogyny? because you know they can still do it. >> joe biden's been a phenomenal president. he's lived up to so many of the promises he's made. there's one promise left that he could fulfill, being a transitional figure. he could resign the presidency, make kamala harris the president of the united states. >> greg: see, bat [bleep] crazy people can be right. if they truly believe kamala was denied the presidency because of racism and sexism, biden can resign right now and she could be president for two and a half months. so what are they waiting for? they can make history or herstory. so why haven't they done it? who are the nazis now?

let's welcome tonight's guests! this hawaiian has democrats cryin'! [cheering and applause] the stuff he writes keeps newsome up at night! michael shellenberger! comedian dave landau! and she's expectant and needs disinfectant. "new york times" best selling author kat timpf! chelsea, i've watched you change and i don't think you've changed that much. i actually think the world has changed. >> very much. >> greg: but you -- i think you notice what i'm talking about that it wasn't necessarily left versus right. it was about this larger environment of dishonesty. >> yes. >> greg: and it was like pitting

people against each other rather than just, like, listening to the truth. what role are you going to play in this? that was no segue at all! >> no, it was really incredible. as you know, bobby kennedy and i were out on the campaign trail for the last several months, and it was amazing to see how many people were coming together because they were hungry for the truth and common sense leadership that was focused on how do we actually solve the very real problems that people in this country are struggling with every single day. at almost every one of our events, i would ask the crowd raise the hand if you're a democrat or former democrat, and in crowds of thousands of people there were always somewhere between, like, 35 to 45% of the crowd would raise their hands. and it was amazing at the last event that we did, it was in wisconsin, and this was just a few days before election day, and it was raise their hands, almost half the room raised their hands. the cool thing was people in the

crowd started looking around and all 3,000 people stood up and started clapping and jus showing them kindness and really symbolizing we are all americans who love our country, who cherish peace and freedom, and i think that's the result that we saw on election night was americans coming together for our country. [cheering and applause] >> greg: so to conclude, secretary of defense! >> president trump is making some decisions! >> greg: michael, always good to have you. haven't been here in a while. you were one of the very first people to raise the alarm on the issues in california, the effects of woke-ism especially in the drug area, what it did to places like portland and oakland. how do you feel about this outcome and the fact that this -- it doesn't feel like an ideological victory at all. it just feels like a voice or something. >> like, a breath of fresh air. i felt the next day i literally

breathed more ease letter. justine bateman from "family ties" said she decompressed from walking for four years on egg shells. we raised concerns around things like censorship or the fbi and cia interfering in the 2020 elections or maybe not blocking the puberty of children or operating on them if they might not be sure of who they are. we were called, just like conservatives, fascists and racists and phobic, raising very legitimate questions. it really culminates this year where we see this attempt to basically incarcerate president-elect donald trump while at the same time accusing the republicans of being the fascists and wanting to undermine democracy. i think for a lot of us, those of us who have had this experience, conservatives were beat up for so long and now i'm very sympathetic. a lot of us lost friends, lost communities over this transition. so it feels like a hard reset and a necessary one for the

country. >> greg: yeah, i think we're going to talk about it in the next block. i do think there's a way to get people back together, but it has a lot to do with ego. there's a lot of bruised, damaged egos out there. speaking of, dave... >> yes. >> greg: how have you been able to handle this week? you were in where? were you in detroit? >> i was in detroit, yeah. i was talking to people. i was amazed that michigan turned red and meeting people in detroit, i'm surprised that that county didn't but i think it was close to 50/50. but it's been an exciting week. you're watching them now try to explain their strategy which is don't do the number one podcast in the country. what would they talk about? joe does ju ju -- ju-jitsu. also the idea that she's just going to step in real quick for

biden is the saddest participation trophy i've ever seen. >> greg: shouldn't he resign, though? we're racist for not voting. he's racist for not stepping aside. >> i don't know who is president. i don't think anybody does. >> greg: it's the best! it's the best. clearly we didn't need one, kat. you were traveling this weekend. how were your audiences? because personally i'm still high. it's a natural high but i'm very high. >> very happy. yes, very excited. very, very happy. would it be funny -- i'm not sure that joe biden even voted for kamala to be honest. he didn't want to step down, okay. but would it be funny for him to step down for one day? >> greg: yes! >> obviously he's not qualified. i get it. we don't have a president. everyone who says that is

correct. but how would that be -- it would be like giving someone something and then she has to -- i'm giving him a tip if he wants to play any mind games because she would have to then act really grateful and, like, what kind of speech would you give if you're president for a day? that sounds like a movie from the '90s starring mccaulay culkin. >> greg: she was probably acting president when joe biden was, like, out. >> he should make it a big deal, have her be president for one day and i want to hear what she says about it. just so i have stuff to talk about in the chat. >> greg: up next, should the holidays be free from family who disagree? keep living life with the ones you love. ask your doctor about farxiga today. farxiga can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal,

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♪ it's coming your way ♪ ♪ hey, hey ♪ ♪ it's video of the day ♪ >> greg: this thanksgiving, a yale psychiatry fellow joined msnbc's joy reid to discuss how to interact with maga members of your family this holiday season. her advice? don't do it. roll it, ester! >> if you are going to a situation where you have family members, where you have close friends who you know have voted in ways that are against you, like, what you said, against your livelihood, it's completely fine to not be around those people and to tell them why. you know, to say i have a problem with the way that you voted because it went against my very livelihood and i'm not going to be around you this holiday. i need to take some space for me. >> greg: good for you. you know, though, i bet her

family is relieved. they were afraid to serve white meat because she'd think it's racist. but she's a shrink so let's explain it to her with shrink words. she's suffering from a narcissistic wound, an emotional trauma to the ego that happens when your inflated pride and self-worth is destroyed. it shouldn't happen with an election unless you make politics personal which we don't do. see, normal people put politics in a box away from everything else. we try to, but the modern progressive infects all areas of your life with politics and their inflated ego becomes angrily reactive if their assumptions aren't met. whether it's at a soccer game, thanksgiving dinner or alone in the room with their cats, they can't escape the hell they've made and they expect you to feel their pain, but you don't have to. you have a full, exciting life. pity them for the smallness their lives have become and then eat what would have been their dessert. [applause] mike, you brought this up

earlier about losing friends and whatnot. i find that the people that i see that i used to know that are on twitter and stuff, it's an ego issue. it's the inability to admit that they might be wrong. i'll even say somebody that you probably know, sam harris is like this. you've noticed that it's a very brittle thing for him to admit that he's wrong so it's just the rest of the world. >> he's in the grip of a religion. he doesn't think so. he thinks he's an atheist. that's the most dangerous religious zealot. one of the characteristics is this. we've also seen other characteristic is the politicization of everything in society. that's one of the characteristics of totalitarianism. thanksgiving dinner, your soccer team or your church, they need to adopt this woke totalitarianism.

i at thhope this election marks end to this. it needs to for all of our sanity. >> greg: i hope it does, but, dave, i'm assuming you have friends and relatives, although i can't tell. >> you never know. >> greg: you seem like a shut-in. a lot of hoarding? >> a lot of dead cats. >> greg: will you have this problem come thanksgiving? >> no. i encourage people who think differently not to show up honestly. [laughter] but i love that this is a mental health professional telling you to be mentally unhealthy. like, this is a going in to rehab. i know you're an alcoholic but have you tried crack? [laughter] it's insanity. also if you are going to go to somebody's for the holidays, you have to go to a republican's because they own a house. [ some applause ] >> greg: that's exactly the type of humor that turns people off,

dave! so, kat, this is the second time i've listened to this. she's using the word "livelihood" wrong. she's saying it hurts their livelihood. does she know what that word means? again, she's a shrink? >> i thought that too. i think she means life. >> greg: yes! >> this is what my whole book is about how this is a problem and this is the wrong way to look at the world. that moral outrage is more often rooted in self-interest. the more guilt you feel about not being able to do something about a problem, the more likely you are to direct it at somebody else and you feel better when you do. i think the thing to do really is -- the sad thing is for a lot of people do they believe stuff like this is true. there's a lot of people scared. politics, fear is motivating and some people think they're not going to have human rights because of this election. it's good to focus on what you have in common a little bit. say i also don't want my home to

be invaded by a russian army. if i thought your rights would be taken away, then i would not have voted for -- trump project 2025 he said repeatedly no, that's not my thing. i don't endorse that. people don't know that. i think that focusing on what you have in common can be a good thing because some people are really scared. they're really scared and it's sad. >> greg: it is sad for them but not for us. in your face, sad people! >> i disagree with that. you said that your side doesn't do that and you just did that. >> greg: no, but i was joking. i was joking. >> but i think that we need to come together. i really, really do. >> greg: you know, there are a lot of people that can't -- that lost a level of status. think about the republicans in 2016 who they saw this whole thing come in and it threatened

them, and then they just became, like, look at bill crystal, somebody like that. they just went in the other direction because it was about a loss of status. so they needed to find their status somewhere else. adam kinsinger, completely nuts. liz cheney, nuts. it's because... >> what's his name? >> greg: george conway. he's on ozempic. he's still ugly. i don't even have a question. my question is this... if you remove the left and right and just look at the hoaxes, that's kind of one way to do it. it's like these people lied to you about polling and about biden's status. is that the way forward, focus on the media's lies? >> gosh, there's a lot here. i think going back to what you originally said, there's a lot of ego involved, exposes that these people care more about themselves than they care about what makes politics so personal which is who we have in positions of power affects our

everyday lives. to kat's point, we have to be able to come together around the things that we share in common which is we are all americans. and if we really care about each other in our country, let that be the starting point, freedom and peace and prosperity. the thing that i first experienced when president trump got elected in 2016, i was invited to come and meet with him two weeks after the election, right before thanksgiving here in trump tower, first democrat to go and see him. we had an hour-long conversation about foreign policy, what's going on with islamist terrorism, how do we deal with isis and al-qaeda in the middle east. it was a fantastic conversation. 5 minutes after i walked out of the building my phone blew up from messages from my former democrat colleagues in congress, even some family members, friends, how dare you humanize donald trump was the message that was throughout. so it exposes their twisted

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survivalists. i mean, chances are if you had a hate has no home here sign, you were already dead. [laughter] >> greg: do you think getting fired is enough? isn't that like -- she just lost her job. >> it is but it's right in her face, though, because it shows that, like, now trump supporters can outlast a hurricane and an election so that's both kinds of blue waves. >> greg: ooh, a little word play there. >> a little bit. >> greg: very little perhaps. >> very little. >> greg: the audience was not impressed by that word play. i was! i was. kat, "the new york times" said the claims about this was false on october 4th and they haven't issued any kind of retraction. >> i guess i'm not surprised by that either. if you go back to the previous segment, isn't this the logical conclusion of that? if these people don't care about

your livelihood and then livelihood means what you think it means, then why would you want to save their lives if these people don't care about your -- if you think livelihood means life, life, then this is the logical conclusion of that. that's why that's so harmful and we need to fight against that. >> greg: you know what's amazing about this person, she put it in writing. >> put it in writing! but she probably -- probably some other people saw it too and nobody was i can't tell her that's okay because she's not letting me have my livelihood. >> greg: i thought it was a hoax! who would put that in an e-mail? >> of course. but it is the logical conclusion of a lot of the things we've been hearing put in other ways. >> greg: this is kind of a minor version of the weaponization of federal government. it does make sense when you look at the global... >> why didn't she put it in writing if she didn't think it was okay, first of all. second of all, they only fired

her because she found out about it really, truly. it does. yet when we talk about the weaponization of the federal government against opponents of the current regime, obviously we look at donald trump, target number one, kamala harris put me on a domestic terror watch list called quiet skies, but it's people like that. people in western north carolina who i was with the day before election day and they feel left behind. guess what, vast majority of them came from counties that were overwhelmingly traditionally trump voters. so they felt what we saw there that was exposed. why is fema not coming out here for us? why are they not showing up for us? it's this political retaliation that we've seen and that voters have seen and thank god president trump's going to end it. [applause] >> greg: they're applauding my next question. the list you were put on was called quiet skies?

>> quiet skies. the tsa is the administrator of this, very little known secret domestic terror watch list. i experienced the effects of it through, like, radically invasive in-depth screening every time i flew anywhere. >> wait, surveillance? >> greg: you must be on quiet skies. >> how do you know you're on it? >> these federal air marshals saw all these red flags. why is she on this list? she's a lieutenant colonel. she's got a security clearance. they came out and whistleblowers provided evidence to congress saying this is one of many people who are the targets of political retaliation who the tsa administrator has never explained to congress shared who is on the list, the criteria for being on the list. there's zero transparency. >> greg: it's nuts. it is nuts. >> -- makes me introduce myself to all my neighbors!

[laughter] >> you get it? >> greg: it's so funny -- it's so orwellian too because it's called quiet skies. i want quiet skies. >> here's the most important thing... it's been in place for years. spent huge amounts of money. air marshals hate it. they've been trying to kill it for years because it's a waste of their time and there's not a single example of a suspected terrorist that they caught or some evil act that they stopped. zero rate of effectiveness and yet this is what we're paying for. >> greg: amazing. last word to you, michael. what do you make of this craziness? it's almost too on the nose? like, a person actually putting it in writing saying don't go to that house. i honestly thought it was just one of these floating stories but it's real. >> i mean, look, i'm still such a softy. i want redemption. i want reconciliation. but you can't get that until you get the truth out, until you get some accountability. i don't think we can trust the

people that weaponize the government against people like tulsi gaber and turn the department of homeland security in to a censorship operation to censor true stories about vaccine side effects. we need the twitter files for the fbi, for dhs. it's been 50 years since we had the church committee hearings to get to the bottom of the cia abuses of power. we need a church committee hearing 2.0 for all the stuff that's been going on over the last ten years. >> that's why they're so terrified of trump. [applause] >> greg: it's amazing. we've got to move on. coming up, a hollywood elite knows why harris was beat. it's okay to show off. with dupixent, show off your clearer skin and less itch. because you have plenty of reasons to show off your skin. with dupixent, the #1 prescribed biologic by dermatologists and allergists, you can stay ahead of your eczema. it helps block a key source of inflammation inside the body

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republicans won big last week. the actor, who won an oscar for something called "wall street" says it's all about the economy. roll it, fiona. >> those people going week to week with the inflation, it's killing them and i think we really underestimated it. the fact that we can talk about republicans as being the party for the people and that we are this elitist party on the left, the democrats, is wild. >> greg: wild! finally someone in hollywood figures it out! one down, 4 million to go! kat, it's kind of weird watching this flip take place. it's happening in a bunch of different areas. it's like did you ever think that, like, the republicans would be anti-war, pro-free speech and the dems would be the opposite? >> honestly, it has been interesting to watch, but i think also another thing in terms of where the democrats went wrong is remember how long they were trying to convince

people that things were fine? >> greg: mm-hmm. >> how bad inflation got and they were, like, no, it's not as if the average person doesn't have the ability to see how much a thing at the grocery store costs. actually they weren't probably ever going to the grocery store so maybe they didn't know the prices were on it. i don't know. telling people, no, you're not suffering, and i think that you can't have people not believe what's in front of their own eyes and it just became that obvious. it wasn't like they were going towards things that people can't understand. everybody understands what the bill is that they have in front of them. >> greg: i cannot believe you didn't make an analogy to a relationship. >> oh, i mean, i couldn't i guess. i didn't. trying to broaden my horizons. [laughter] >> greg: tulsi, people like michael and you by kind of like, you didn't leave the reservation.

the reservation left you. venturing over in to, i don't know, let's say in the right world you're seeing a shift where speech especially -- that used to be the primary left wing cause, and now they can't be trusted -- once they got in to power suddenly speech became the first thing to go. >> and you've seen in the wake of president trump's resounding re-election how many of these pundits and talking heads and democrat elite are on television basically saying, well, the problem is us. the problem is free speech. so the first thing that they're calling for is to shut down free speech on social media as though that's going to solve it. the fact that their first knee-jerk reaction is censorship, again exposes their anti-free speech and these people who ran a whole campaign on being the defenders of democracy against the guy they warned would be the end of

democracy, they're the ones who don't believe in our voices, the voices of the american people being heard and deciding our election. >> greg: it's weird. i feel like -- and maybe i'm being too optimistic, michael, but i feel like the left-right bifurcation thing might be coming to an end because what was behind that the whole time was a media machine that was trying to do that. now you see kind of like this populist movement blending things. >> well, yeah. a lot of us thought that the media at least reflected reality to some extent. it might be biased but there was still some basic reflective role. i would say the moment that the media just really died for just ordinary americans is the moment where literally within 24 hours the media said biden is totally fine and the next day was he has to go. the distance of time was just too short. everybody had to see what was going on for that. but, look, it's a massive year and we will look back on this

year for -- a hundred years from now you'll see it as a pivotal turning point. there's a political revolution that occurred. it's not just the election of trump. it's the popular vote which gives them the legitimacy which everybody including the democrat as a hard reset. elon musk and joe rogan are the two biggest people in media. why being interviewed by cbs news "60 minutes" where you can do three hours with joe rogan and people can see who you really are. joe has given us the time and space to get out some of the more complicated questions of what really matters and what we've got to do about it. >> greg: but in order to do joe rogan, you have to be able to handle a follow-up question. that is really hard in the -- with trans issues. the follow-up question is how do you do that? why would you do this? what about you, mr. landau? >> what do i think of this?

i think that eventually -- they have to flip at some point. it's ridiculous. michael douglas, this election left a worse taste in his mouth than foreplay with catherine zeta-jones except you can't brag about this. >> greg: why catherine zeta-jones? >> that's who he said did it! but i think he's right. the moment that you could really say that you were being lied to was trump gets shot and biden goes, i'm perfect, i'm sound mind and body. trump gets shot in the ear and he's like, i've got covid. it was in a second that it flipped. america did not give it any time to breathe. they completely lied to you. >> greg: it's the same thing the day before the election all the way to the end he was going to be a fascist dictator and joe the next day says you're going to be okay. it's like, okay, you lied. up next, oprah only appeared

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>> greg: kamala hands oprah a million. so, michael, kamala's campaign paid oprah's company a million bucks for that town hall that she hosted which was a disaster. if you were a small donor, you've got to be pissed.

>> that's up there with oprah raising money for the maui victims, right? aren't you worth a billion dollars or more? this is the twilight of the idols. we're in a moment where the veneer has been ripped off of everything, the media, the government, the deep state, the entertainment industry. you just realize the extent to which it's just been this giant propaganda machine for the last eight to ten years and it's really coming to an end. >> greg: you know, kat, do you remember when i said why is the narrative of the race that it's so close? it was in order to generate that money. the race was never close. but they had to keep saying it, the pollsters so people would give money so oprah could get her million. >> the money they spent on beyoncé, all these celebrities, that goes back to the last segment. this is a party of the elites and this is how we'll win. we'll invite diddy's entire guest list to endorse her! >> greg: >> that's where the million

went, baby oil. it does show, that it doesn't matter. >> absolutely. i just saw p diddy is having trouble selling his house, and i assume because anybody who walks in just slides around like the burglars in home alone [ laughter ] a million dollars to oprah, she doesn't need it, about but that will buy a lot of ozempic. >> greg: i think she has insurance covering that [ laughter ]. >> did you just fact check her -- >> greg: i just -- >> how insurance works [ laughter ]. >> the copay is 50. >> greg: this other story, too, it's never about winning an election, it's about who gets the money from the election. >> it's a disgusting industry,

and i just think that this whole thing was another example of kamala's deception. she wants to try to recreate the feeling that voters might have around the old oprah show, create this talk show vibe, and not tell everybody, we're actually paying her a million bucks to do this thing, and try to prop kamala up and even during that, she did not do well. >> greg: oprah seemed like she didn't want to be there, because i guess a million wasn't enough. nobody was sincere about it. the people that said -- they had to get paid to be sincere. assholes. >> like the 500th time we've heard, i was born in a middle class. >> greg: don't go away. iberogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms to help you feel better. six digestive symptoms. the power of nature. iberogast.

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>> greg: outta time, michael schellenberger -- studio audience [ cheering and applause ]. >> trace: good evening, i'm trace gallagher, it's 11