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he will appoint a bitcoin counsel as well as launch a strategic national crypto stockpile in his second term. lots of changes ahead for those bitcoin investors. it will be interesting to watch. bill. >> bill: good deal. gerri, did a lot of folks see this coming? >> yeah. if trump was going to come into office, ginsler will be out. they disagree on the treatment of crypto. it is a currency that's growing across the planet. promoters say it is the future of currency and people who don't like it say it could be destabilizing to the dollar. >> bill: thank you, gerri willis from fox business. here we go to the moon maybe. thank you. >> dana: or jupiter. any moment on capitol hill republican house leaders are set to hold a news conference on their party's election victories in the house, senate and white house as well as their plans for the next two months.
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these are important. we're keeping an eye on this. congress is returning for a lame duck session that might actually be not so lame. more as soon as we can. >> bill: 10:00 a.m. in new york and we have a ruling based on the associated press saying this a moment ago. the judge has delayed a ruling on whether or not to dismiss president-elect donald trump's criminal conviction. 34 counts that came in at the end of may, may 30th. and the former president has been fighting it ever since and the judge is going to sentence him prior to the election, then delayed it given the election itself, and so this is the ruling here. just reading from the a.p. new york state judge has paused proceedings in the already-decided criminal case on charges stemming from the hush money paid to a porn star. all right? the document reads the judge had been set to decide by today whether or not the conviction
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could be vacated due to the ruling by the u.s. supreme court in mid july on presidential immunity. trump had been scheduled to be sentenced november 26th. so this now is a whole new ball of wax, ms. dana. >> dana: let's get andy mccarthy up and explain what it means. is this kicking the can down the road? what does it mean? >> i think without having read it yet, dana, my sense is that he is kind of cutting to the chase of what we discussed before, which is that you could have a situation where he made a ruling and then allowed on immunity and now time for trump to appeal it which would tie it up for a number of years. once he was president and was in office, they would be able to suspend the proceedings. judge merchan is leaping ahead to that conclusion and suspending proceedings while trump is in office.
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>> bill: when he is 83 the case comes back? >> you know, if they dane to bring it back. look, it is a ridiculous case. there is a lot of reasons why it should be thrown out on appeal. immunity is important to us for media purposes only because it's the only issue that's instantly appealable. there are a bunch of reasons why this case should be thrown out and i would hope there would be a good chance, once president trump is out of office as a twice-elected american president, that at the age of 83 the new york authorities would decide this case was already, whatever it was worth to them they have gotten whatever value there was out of it. it was only brought in the first place to try to prevent him from being elected. since it didn't succeed, i think it should land on the dust bin of history. that's just my view of it. >> dana: andy, i have good dumb
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questions. so does he have to continue to use private lawyers for this or can the white house counsel's office take over? >> it's not necessarily either one, dana, because he has personal interests and there could also be public interests. so his personal interest is obviously his criminal liability. the public interest is whether having the proceedings interferes with his ability to carry out his constitutional duties as president. since there are two sets of interests, there is no problem with having two sets of lawyers who work in their lanes on how this all plays out. >> bill: andy, what i'm hearing you say, give me a course correction if necessary, is that in the year 2029, when this case is brought back or continued, let's say, he will stand a very good chance at the appellate
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level to have this case appealed and potentially thrown out. is that what you are saying? >> that's right, bill. you would pick up -- i presume -- i haven't read it yet but i presume you would pick up right where we are now. where we are now is we have a pending immunity issue. as we saw in the washington federal case, immunity, because it has to be fully litigated before you do anything else in a criminal case, at least that's the way it is supposed to happen, it could take a long time just to sort that out before you get to all the other issues in the case. >> dana: i'm just -- it is letting it all sink in. i don't know judge merchan, i don't really know new york internal politics here. letitia james was full steam ahead and you made a point she has political ambitions. i don't think this judge does but does a ruling like this keep him in the good graces of the
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judicial teams around new york? his social circles? >> i thought, dana, from the beginning he is the kind of guy who even when it's obvious he has made a misstep he has a hard time admitting it. it was clear, for example, when he let stormy daniels testify it was a catastrophe he shouldn't have allowed to happen and instead of saying that was a mistake on my part he blamed everybody else in the room for allowing it to happen. so he is not a guy who easily admits that he was wrong. seems to me this ruling allows him to continue that record. basically he doesn't have to deal with trump's claims of valor. he doesn't have to deal with the immunity issue. he is the one who let the potentially immunized evidence into the case. they new the supreme court was looking at this issue and a chance they would rule in president trump's favor, so they were playing with fire by
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allowing this evidence into the case. he is the guy who let it in. it seems to me that by leaving things in place and not having to grapple with trump's claims of error or immunity question he gets to basically not admit error and everybody gets to carry on. >> bill: you wonder down the road what does the country look like. merchan is 62 years old. he could retire before this case is finalized. >> yeah. but it is such a silly case. the whole thing is preposterous and the fact it was brought by a district attorney who ordinarily pleads felonies down to misdemeanors he took a nothing it and made it 34 felonies. the whole thing was so unabashedly political you have to hope after four years from
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now people will say how did we ever let that happen in the first place? >> bill: you think, dana, about this election and the results that we just saw and heck, i mean, cases like this may have contributed to the drubbing. >> dana: i said on election night it wasn't in spite of the lawfare that he won, it might have been also because of it. national review is on set with us now and you have done a lot of thinking about the election results a week ago today and wonder what you think about that in terms of democrats thinking the legal cases were going to sink trump and they didn't. >> they thought the legal cases would sink trump as an adjunct of his personality. his biggest liability for most voters. exit polling suggestion don't find him likable. they voted for him anyway. he is less popular than his democratic opponent who he beat and there is an element for those voters, majority makers in the coalition saying to themselves well gosh, you know,
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the alternative to this is less palatable than a donald trump presidency. i would like to ask andy to the extent he can speculate, what extent or what donald trump is going to do about the outstanding indictments against him at the federal level? is he going to simply withdraw the jack smith's office to withdraw the special prosecutor and live under indictment or move forward and pardon himself? if the latter course is what he moves forward with, that could reignite a lot of the opposition to him as a person personally. i don't know one way or the other but the ball is in his court. >> i get the sense that what is going to happen is the biden-harris administration is going to dismiss the trump cases. they've already laid the ground work for that. judge has set a date for jack
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smith to get back to her on how he sees the case proceeding in the future. i think what he will come back with is a motion to dismiss the case. my sense of this is that -- i continue to think this even though the white house pushes back the other way, i think that president biden is going to pardon his son and that he will get a lot of criticism if that's done in a vacuum because it is a -- he said he wouldn't do it. he will look terrible. but i think if it is a clemency package where we're turning the page from the trump prosecutions and the hunter prosecutions, the country will take it a lot better. so i think it is going to be the biden-harris administration that gets rid of the trump prosecutions rather than having trump have to do it himself by getting his justice department to try to dismiss it. >> bill: do you think they would cut that deal, andy?
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>> i do, yep. i don't see -- who is the loser in it? >> dana: me, too. >> bill: jonathan turley joins us as well. welcome to our coverage. constitutional law attorney. one more thing on the politics of this. what judge merchan allowed trump to do in the middle of the election gave him a platform a couple times a day. the cameras were parked outside the courtroom looking down the hallway and trump took advantage every time he walked in and out. every cable outlet covered it. it was distributed on social media. you can crack on biden for running a lackluster campaign at the time, but trump took the stage and took advantage of that moment. jonathan, does this case come back when he leaves the white house in 2029? >> well, it can. it is a curious position to put the president in. some might even view it as passive aggressive because you
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leave this dangling sort thing over the head. he is awaiting sentencing according to his critics and make it more difficult to appeal some of these issues. keep in mind that sentencing issue aside. i doubt the judge would have sentenced him to jail time. this case has layers of reversible error. i think the judge did a horrible job in this trial. he ruled regularly and consistently against trump and in some cases i think that he did commit reversible errors. so freezing this in amber is not going to be necessarily good news for the trump campaign. i think they were eager to appeal this to get a final decision and to at least appeal aspects of when this. there will be some maneuvering going on as to what can be still reviewed. in terms of leaving a case
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suspended for four years, it just is a very odd way of addressing this. the sentencing only created a conflict with the president's presidential duties if the judge put limitations upon the president. he could have simply said i'm not going to impose jail time or home confinement. he could even say that being president is equivalent to community service. there are a lot of ways that he could have handled this. so i think as we play this out a bit, we will have to see what the trump lawyers do. i don't know if they will necessarily welcome the idea that they are just going to keep this thing sort of as a zombie case for four years. >> bill: professor, stand by. we'll get to this whole issue that andy raised about the political quid pro quo, the
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ultimate, pinch me moment here. stand by for that. >> dana: you were in the courtroom for all of this that happened in new york city. tell us what you think about the decision to delay. >> i think the trump lawyers had to expect this to some extent because they did file just a few days ago because donald trump is president-elect he raised all kinds of new constitutional question the court has to consider as far as both one hand the immunity issue from the supreme court but also sentencing given he obviously if he were to be sentenced to anything wouldn't be able to execute the sentence at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. a couple thoughts come to mind. i've been wondering what governor hochul is thinking. she has the power to pardon him in this. it could be an interesting decision on her end. i've wondered if donald trump is having and his people are having conversations with her now. as we know the state of new york is a bit of a mess as far as how they run law enforcement there. so i wondered about that. but look, in the big picture
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here the thing that has always tremendously bothered me about this case is that i think a huge point of this was to get -- for the democrats to get the talking point convicted felon and the reason and the way they were able to make him a convicted felon was to say that he committed this misdemeanor. the real travesty in all of this is we and he still don't know what the underlying crimes are. we weren't told. so donald trump became the so-called convicted felon and we don't know why or how exactly. so certainly thinking about this. >> bill: you came on the hair repeatedly taken back by the absurdity of the case itself and your opinion hasn't changed. >> no. it hasn't changed at all. i still think it is a disgrace and i wonder what this means as far as the delay and what will play out in the coming weeks
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especially with the politicking, so to speak, between donald trump and the leadership of the state of new york. >> bill: noah is riding shotgun. >> it's fascinating the proposition that andy and kerri bring up in the democratic party's interest to wipe the slate clean and pardon him and get rid of the cases and resign their voters to the fact that this fantasy that he is going to get his comeuppance from place somewhere and we'll be the authors of it, is over. so really just give them that kind of closure on this captivating notion that has animated democratic opposition for donald trump for eight years. it is off the table. voters will be the authors of recrimination or his storied future as an american president with a great legacy. that is for them to decide and not you. that would be psychologically valuable. >> dana: i think that's smart. it doesn't mean that they think
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the same way. also who in the democratic party would stand up and say that? biden himself might be able to but right now there is no democratic leader that could make that case. if they did it is bold and smart but we'll see if anyone does that. a question for jonathan turley. is there a supreme court angle. can you appeal the decision about a delay saying i don't want it hanging over my head? can we get this moving? >> that's what makes this a bit of a passive aggressive move is that it will freeze the president in this uncertain state and i think that his attorneys are eager to appeal not just any sentence but the underlying trial. so i don't feel -- that this is necessarily welcome news by the trump team. i also know with regard to that pardon, a pardon by the biden
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administration should not be welcome by the trump people because these cases are gone. smith has start evidence to close up shop and so there is no need for a pardon here. he hasn't been convicted of anything and by pardoning trump you make it look like he was guilty to the public. i think trump would prefer for these cases to collapse on their own weight. they are effectively as dead as dillinger. the question is why pardon him? by doing that you poison the water more. i give him a pardon and hope the new york manhattan case can linger for four years and you can continue to call him a convicted felon. i think what the trump team would like is to let these cases collapse because they are already effectively dead and for him to be able to appeal that manhattan case. many of us have been saying for
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many months now that the judge really messed up that case. there are serious reversible problems in the manhattan prosecution. >> bill: don't want to get too far in front of this. it is really interesting parlor talk. we're a long way from reaching that point. however, it should be noted that these two men meet tomorrow at the white house, not to suggest that that i of this would come up. we'll watch tomorrow around 11:00 a.m. and we'll walk american history repeat again. judge jeanine pirro covering a lot of us today want her to weigh in. what do you think of merchan's decision right now, judge? >> well, you know, it's very interesting. i didn't hear what jonathan turley was saying but they are basically delaying everything for one week including a decision on the 330 motion, the motion to vacate and eventual dismissal of the case is the argument that they are using in
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the interest of justice under the supreme court's decision that came out about a month after the former president was convicted on this ridiculous case for which there is no basis. the truth is, i don't know if a dismissal in the interest of justice is what the president would be looking for when if truth there was no basis for this. in the end there wasn't any crime that wasn't passed the statute of limitations that wasn't bootstrapped into a federal crime. so it really is -- it appears what they are trying to do is just get a stay for an eventual dismissal in the interest of justice. whether or not that's sufficient for the defense and whether or not they want just that kind of dismissal or for the supreme court to make a decision on this ultimately. >> bill: my guess is the trump team wants to throw it out and will fight until it happens. >> dana: on the scale of 1-ten how would you rate this decision
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by merchan about being courageous? >> i think -- i don't think much of merchan. i don't think he is courageous at all if that's the word you were using. >> dana: this seems to me like it is not bold at all and that it is basically like not making a decision just to basically keep it going and not get negative press from people on the left who would be mad at him if he made a decision that would have just as noah was saying wiped it clean, let the democrats move on at least from this particular case in front of him. >> well, you know what? this case was so horrific and so illegal and so over the top in terms of the evidence that was allowed by this judge, i honestly feel that it needs to be reversed. it needs to be as we say on "the five", dana, an in your face reversal. this was an outrage. what happened to president trump in this case, there was no
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crime. there was no basis. alvin bragg thought he was a federal prosecutor and could stop the statute of limitations and the immunity decision makes everything irrelevant in terms of that case. it's really a question of what the defense wants here. i would go for the in your face merchan you are not interested in justice, you are interested in yourself. but that's me. >> bill: thank you, judge. shannon bream joins us now. your reaction. >> listen, after the judge and i and andy and so many others, we all sat through these hearings, the trial with judge merchan and because he ruled against president trump's interest in his legal team so many times we really didn't know where he would go here. this is unprecedented to think about sentencing a president-elect. it has not happened before. and because so many of his decisions were negative to the trump defense team, this is a little bit of an open window to see that he realized it probably
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was going to be an uphill battle for him moving forward and knew he would have big problems on appeal and it would be triggered once he makes a decision about the immunity, decision from scotus, whether that blankets over this and ends it. whether he would actually proceed to a sentencing at some point. that would be tied up for years. it has never happened with somebody who would then be the president locked up in legal appeals and all kinds of things that would just be a change for the history books frankly. i think merchan knows the tide is against him moving forward and seems reasonable he will pause and let the two sides hash this out a little bit more. i will be surprised if he ultimately decides moves forward. >> bill: andy, go ahead, final thought as we wrap this up and try to figure out what comes next. >> i just think one point we're missing here is that trump is not a convicted felon.
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technically the judgment of conviction is not entered until he is sentenced. one of the reasons they asked for the delay in the first place is they are hoping to get the case thrown out by merchan without ever having a judgment of conviction entered. the whole point of the motion to dismiss or the motion to vacate the convictions was that he never become a convicted felon in the first place. and as long as this is frozen, technically he is not a convicted felon even though he is addressed that way. >> bill: thank you. professor turley, another crack at this. go ahead. >> andy makes a very good point but it is a precious one for the political environment we're in. they have been campaigning on fact he was convicted of all these felonies. we'll see what happens in a week. we have this suspension of proceedings. i think the worst possible option is the suspending this
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during the pendency of the next term. i find it a curious choice if the judge were to make it. the trump team needs to be able to appeal this case and not have this hanging over the new president's head. i'm still surprised that that would be an option. we'll see. the best option in my view is a dismissal of the case because of the layers of reversible error. the court can walk away from this case. it didn't work. the lawfare didn't work and he will be the next president. it's time for mature minds to prevail in a week just dismiss this case which should never have been brought in the first place. >> dana: kerri. >> i'm not convinced judge merchan will let it linger over president trump's head. i agree with my colleagues he ruled against trump every chance he got but they saw how much that backfired. i think part of the reason
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donald trump won in the way he did was because of this lawfare strategy that backfired. i would imagine judge merchan is taking that into account. i hope he is. if he were to freeze this, it would be so brazen and so political and may backfire in 2028. >> bill: capitol hill speaker johnson now taking questions. he said a moment ago that the president-elect will meet with republicans tomorrow on the hill. that will be something. right now the gop has 214. the dems 205. simple majority is 218. still a few races out there. let's drop in. >> yes ma'am. >> a plan to get rid of the department of education, has it been schussed. would the president-elect do something he -- >> we aren't getting into details about specifics with reforms in specific departments. there are a lot of ideas. we have to build consensus and
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work on the order of the reforms and how we do it. i'm not getting ready to give you details on that. you can stay tuned. >> you were very concerned about non-citizens voting. what is your assessment of the impact of that in this election? >> the mantra and what we said at the rallies and what president trump was apt to say all the time we had to make it too big to rig and we did. we know for a fact, it is a fact that non-citizens voted in some places around the country. because they were signed up to vote and they were defying federal law but states not enforcing the requirement there be proof of citizenship before they sign up. i said this on the campaign trail for a year. i had confidence that because of the chaos that was related to the 2020 election, most of the states got busy to their credit, the legislatures got busy and passed legislation to shore up systems in states across the country.
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hundreds of pieces of legislation and signed into law by the governors that shored up systems and made sure they were more secure. a few states we were still concerned about. because of the attention that was given to it, you had eyes on those elections very closely. you had lawyers ready and prepared to file injunctions in district courts when necessary and they did. poll watchers and precinct captains and some working now and recounts in a couple of races, very closely monitored. i am happy to report to you that because of all the emphasis we placed oh than that and because of all the attention the american people put on it i think we were able to limit to a high degree the amount of fraud and irregularity in many of the things that concerned all americans after 2020. that's a good sign. another hopeful reason. another thing to celebrate about our new day in america. thank you all for being here this morning. we're grateful to get to work and that starts right now. thank you. >> bill: okay. pardon the wind. the breeze there blowing on
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capitol hill. noah rothman is with us. with regard to the house, it appears republicans are in a good position now to have the house, senate and the white house here. majority, however, is slim numbers, maybe 220, maybe 221. a two or three seat majority for the house. >> leadership is concerned the president-elect keeps plucking from senators and the majority becomes in danger. they will have more cushion than that. it is very tight. the problem for republicans for speaker johnson is donald trump is taking a lot of good members. some of these people, congressman waltz, stefanik, these are good voices. they will do good work and it can be overstated. personnel is policy and i can tell you now those afraid that the trump administration would
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be committed to reckless, heedless retrenchment are breathing a sigh of relief. policy comes from the top down. donald trump's when it comes to variety of hot conflicts and ongoing issue in europe with north korean soldiers involved in the conflict on the ground in europe and very hostile iran not deterred and needs to be deterred through aggressive responses by the united states and its allies in the region, we don't know really how he thinks on how the tactics will play out. we know the strategy and what he wants to achieve. end the wars. how will he do it? these numbers are the authors of those resolutions. >> bill: sticky stuff with high stakes. your timing was perfect. >> dana: thank you for being here. news right now in georgia. a hearing underway on the murder of laken riley that is just wrapping up. we'll have more next. >> bill: another court case
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he entered a motion to waive his constitutional right to a trial by jury. instead he asked that the judge hear the case and determine his guilt or innocence. the 26-year-old venezuelan is accused of killing 22-year-old laken riley, a nursing student at the athens campus of augusta university. she was attacked on a running trail on the university of georgia campus and died from blunt force trauma to the head and asphyxiation. at a hearing in may he entered a not guilty plea in that murder case. authorities say he entered the u.s. illegally which added fuel to the border security debate both nationally, in the presidential election and locally in the district attorney's race. last week incumbent debra gonzalez, progressive democrat, lost to an independent
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challenger. now dana originally jury selection was set to begin tomorrow, wednesday, with the opening arguments beginning as early as monday. now that jose is asking for a trial by judge instead of trial by jury, obviously the case will skip jury selection and as we speak, the judge and attorneys on both sides are meeting in chambers to discuss scheduling of moving this trial forward, dana. >> dana: jonathan serrie in atlanta. >> bill: let's get analysis, paul mauro, fox news contributor. what is the strategy on behalf of his lawyers to pursue it from the bench? >> you know, it's puzzling. in a situation like this, realistically what you have just done is that you've taken a situation where out of 12 people you might need to raise reasonable doubt, just in one of their minds and there by hang the jury, you've shrunk that
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down to one. realistically now only one person has to be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that jose abarra is guilty. i don't see that the judge has any particular prop pensty but it is his right. there is a good chance the case will kick off, maybe on monday. >> dana: if it starts monday, how long would it go and would he take the stand? >> you know, the fact that he has made a bold move like this, anything is possible. you know, he is in the discussion today with the judge was done through an interpreter. it is very difficult to as sir tan. they think the evidence is of a
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sort very legalistic and complex and bends in their favor and they want a judge who is familiar with the law to parse his or her way through it. i would argue that's not the case here. this is a capital -- not a capital case in that the death penalty is not on the table, but it is -- he is looking at life in prison. so i don't really see the strategy here as to why he would do that. and he already lost the request for change of venue. obviously the judge has heard as much about this case as anybody else in that area from the media, so yeah, it is very puzzling but it will move much quicker because you won't have to answer your question you won't have jury deliberations and so as a result, you know, we could get a much quicker movement. you won't get questions from the jury regarding what this meant or that meant. could only be a couple of weeks.
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>> bill: interesting strategy. thank you for jumping on with us paul mauro instant analysis on the case in athens, georgia. >> dana: want to bring in rodney scott a former u.s. border patrol chief. zooming out to a bigger picture about migrant crime in america. i think a lot of people have different definitions in their mind of what mass deportations would look like. tom homan has been clear the criminals come first, the first on the list. this is the governor of massachusetts ms. healey who says she won't cooperate with mass deportations. >> if the trump administrations requests it would the massachusetts state police assist in mass deportations? >> no, absolutely not. every tool in the tool box is going to be used to protect our citizens and residents and protect our states. certainly to hold the line on democracy and the rule of law. >> dana: but criminals, if that's the first target for people who broke the law that
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are violent, why wouldn't a governor like her want them out of her state? >> it's perplexing and the hypocrisy is amazing. if you support the rule of law, not just in the illegally coming into the u.s. itself but talk about people who have had their day in court. a judge has adjudicated their case and they have been ordered removed. there are millions of those. the other big change of the next administration is no one will be off the table. when ice goes to arrest those individuals and stumble on other illegal immigrants and other crimes at the same time, agents will be able to take care of all those crimes at the same time. that is just efficiency and makes sense and makes the entire country safer and we get to avoid trials like you just covered with laken riley because this massive illegal immigration is fueled by governors like that is say get to my state and we'll protect you.
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that's aiding and abetting in my mind. >> dana: tom homan if he gets this border czar role, looks like he will, he has done interviews, how much does the government know about where the criminals are right now? >> so we know 100% where the criminals are when states share information about people illegal aliens they have in custody and much more efficient means to arrest them. when you have states actually stepping in like california, like governor of massachusetts and slowing down the information exchange between state and local law enforcement, then it gets harder and you go back to traditional law enforcement targeting tools, surveillance, very manpower and very resource intensive process. >> dana: but the border patrol we've been interviewing are energized and excited and feel like they will be able to do the jobs they're meant to do.
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thank you for hanging with us on that breaking news. >> thank you. >> bill: back to the white house we roll now. president joe biden meeting with israel's president a short time from now ahead of his meeting tomorrow. a big one on the calendar, president-elect donald trump goes back to the white house. what a moment it will be. america sit back, take it in and watch together. some house democrats are plotting the try to sabotage the trump agenda. what their strategy might be and what it reveals about their priorities. we'll get to all that coming up. if you struggle. ♪ and struggle. ♪ and struggle with cpap. you should check out inspire. ♪ no mask. no hose. just sleep. inspire. sleep apnea innovation. learn more and view important safety information at inspiresleep.com
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>> bill: republicans on the brink of full congressional control. according to axios progressive representatives are plotting their own plan. an 11th hour sabotage of donald trump's agenda. see how this goes. carley shimkus and tom shillue are here. one quote. one plan is to propose a raft of executive orders president biden could issue to protect existing structures and democrats plan to lean on fast track citizenship for immigrants. if you believe in that go for it while you have the clans. i imagine some of this will come to pass. >> he wants to muck up the works. the key was if you look in the article it all happened on a fundraising call. so hakim jeff reefs is talking
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about the plans this is what we have to do and need money to do it. so it was this idea that we can use this money and we can make these emergency measures to muck it up for donald trump but, you know, it is all about fundraising. >> dana: also this. limited time we want to jump to this. kamala harris and president biden were together yesterday for veterans day event and dr. jill biden was there, too. it seemed a little icy between the two of them. >> i was reading the piece on this. warmer than average day in november but particularly icy on the balcony they are sitting. i believe the reports that jill biden never forgave kamala harris for what she said during the debate about accusing joe biden of being a racist. and then that was one moment and then you jump to biden having to step down. kamala harris replacing him
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unsuccessfully. if this is the first time these two women have met she may have been wearing sunglasses for a reason. >> interesting platform come inauguration day on the west steps of the capitol. >> i don't think anybody has to be nice anymore. this idea of you have to be polite. -- with politics they attack each other relentlessly and show up at the inauguration and everyone is smiles. they should do it like they do in boxing or in wrestling. have the way in, stare at each other, you know, when they come out. get in each other's face. don't pretend. >> dana: people dreaming of moving abroad what it takes to immigrate five countries. you better do your homework. >> one thing that the forks b people did. it seemed less reactionary. moving makes more sense than shaving your head.
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they talked about the weather in each country. thank you, "washington post." you do need a coat in canada if you move there. >> dana: what about the climate change? >> i'm not going anywhere. right wingers, what will you do. the u.s. is the best country even with leaders we don't like. what will you do, go to europe? >> dana: i think not. >> it's good. >> we like to visit. >> bill: busy day. wanted to squeeze you guys in. >> dana: we appreciate you. here right now president biden is meeting with israel's president, a short time from now. ahead of his meeting with trump tomorrow. so we have our eagle eye out for him.
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messages as they hear from both sides. peter doocy live at the white house with more and a big meeting happening in moments, peter. >> the question becomes what is the the point? why is the israeli president here meeting with president biden whose powers expire in 69 days especially considering that according to the times of israel the israelis are also talking to trump officials? is it just a courtesy or is it like tomorrow's meeting with donald trump, set up so president biden can try to impart foreign policy wisdom on somebody who will be in power past january? >> they will go through the top issues both domestic and foreign policy issues, including what is happening in europe and asia and the middle east and the president will have the chance to explain to president trump how he sees things, where they stand and talk to president trump about how president trump is thinking about taking on these issues when he takes office. >> the biden administration has
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been candid about their israel's approach to gaza. they all said the same thing we want the killing to stop, end the war, peace and want to know that you can make that happen. vice president harris, of course, until a week ago was set to be the standard bearer. today sne is not in this meeting or in the trump meeting tomorrow. the only thing on her schedule today is lunch, dana. >> dana: lunch with the president or by herself? >> lunch with the president, yes. >> dana: i would love to be there for that. thank you, peter. >> bill: history tomorrow, that's for sure. before we go let's roll this. check out these german daredevils. they walked across a slack line stretched between two hot air balloons 8,000 feet in the air and that's a new world record. here is the moment they broke it.
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>> yeah! >> bill: very good. >> dana: why? why? >> bill: that's what they do, why. >> dana: it's one of the number one fears of all humans. number one fear is public speaking and then you go heights, drowning, fire. >> bill: that's so good. >> dana: would you do that? >> bill: no, that's way too up there for me. they broke the old record by 2,000 feet. a beautiful sight there. wanted to share that with you. we have history tomorrow that we will watch together. the former president is going back to the white house. we haven't seen this. actually none of us have seen this because it has been like 1893 since it happened. it will happen tomorrow and something else to watch. >> dana: all these transition appointments being made on top of that four at fox news. watch oves all day. see you on "the five." here is harris faulkner. >> harris: we begin with the
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