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jump back into the brady briefing room where the national secured advisor jake sullivan has been talking about the transition process to the next trump administration. >> prime minister's infrequent touch with the president-elect. >> i had an opportunity to sit down with the israeli strategic affairs -- we had a detailed discussion about every element of the current situation in the middle east, and it was a constructive disc discussion. we are still actively working in support of our common efforts to push back against our common adversaries to try to deal with the situation in gaza, in lebanon, and directly with respect to the islamic republic of iran. and just to give you an example, we are working on an ongoing daily basis to try to increase the amount of humanitarian assistance getting into gaza, given the suffering of the innocent civilians there who are trapped amidst the cross fire between the idf and the terrorist group hamas. we have made some progress in that regard.

we extracted further commitments from the israeli side over the course of the past couple of days. we want to see those commitments followed through on. so we believe we can continue to work across the board on all of the relevant issues, whether it is humanitariansuring the defenf israel against iranian attacks, or it is working on cease-fire efforts and hostage deal in gaza, or it is ultimately bringing in diplomatic resolution to lebanon, which we are actively working on, we'll continue to do that every day we have remaining in office. >> reporter: can't speak to what happened in the meeting earlier, will ask about karine about that, but eight years ago then-president obama warned about north korea, the most urgent national security threat at the time. what would you communicate to your national security following you, what is the most urgent

national secured he threat as donald trump or hitler's to take office cost back. >> i would say two things to that. the first is if you look out at a strategic level, the competition with the people's republic of china is going to be defining for what the world looks like over the course of the next 10-20-30 years. so that has got to be a paramount priority for the incoming and administration and the person who has been named as my successor, the person who has been floated as the secretary of state, these are people who have very much focused on that challenged and we will look forward to talkinge have approached it, and obviously pass on the current state of play. then there's the most immediate issue, which is iran and its proxy groups continue to take actions that directly threaten americans and american interests in the middle east and that has to be dealt with on an urgent basis. now, that said, the macro level and the micro level, in between those two, you have an ongoing war of aggression by russia against ukraine, representing a

larger threat to european security, and therefore global security, and you've got north korea coming behind to provide troops in that war. so these are all issues for which we have clear approaches, working in coordination with allies and partners, and we are going to try to ensure that we pass off each of these areas to the next team in a way that is as smooth as possible. >> reporter: last time he was -- is to follow quickly -- in that same meeting obama told trump he had real concerns about the hiring of a national security advisor mike flynn. donald trump ultimately hired mike flynn. do you have any concern about the names you've mentioned so far and announced by donald trump is serving his and administration in a national security role? >> i know some of them, i have engaged with some of them, and people like, for example, congressman walt, who has been named to be my replacement, he is somebody that i have engage i respect his service to this country in uniform. he has put his life on the line,

i respect his service in congress. he and i obviously don't see eye to eye on every issue but i'm very much looking forward to engaging him over the next 60 days, as i said, so that we can have this smooth handoff. there other people he has named who i just don't know, i haven't met, and therefore can't comment on. >> reporter: you talked about wanting to engage, wanting to smooth this transition. why hasn't it happened yet? is the signing of the mous an actual issue preventing you from coordinating with the trump team? >> so i will defer to karine to kind of go into the nitty-gritty. what i will say at a broad level, though, is the mou creates the opening for the landing teams to arrive at the agencies, to include the nsc. but that doesn't mean we can't reach out and express our willingness to engage with our counterparts, our incoming counterparts. we have done that. so i expect that in a matter of

days here we should be able to have some engagement. of course, that depends on whether the incoming team wants to engage, and that will be up to them, but for our part, we are more than willing to do what is our responsibility as directed by the president, and frankly, as dictated by the constitution, which is to ensure the peaceful transition of power. >> reporter: china related question, as well. you know, the biden administration largely left in place they trump-era tariffs on china. the policy hasn't been dashed towards china hasn't been wildly divergent. the potential for bipartisan agreement on the relationship with china in the next and administration or going forward? >> i think for us to succeed in long-term competition with the prc it will require bipartisanship. the best foreign policy has always had bipartisan element. the policy we have pursued in the said administration with respect to the prc and with respect to the indo-pacific have been bipartisan. by the way, the same thing is

true with respect to ukraine, where there has been strong bipartisan support and votes in both the house and the senate for the resources and the strategy for ukraine. so from our perspective, we would like to see that continue. now obviously we don't know what the incoming team is going to do, how divergent they will be. those will be decisions they take, not for me to comment on. all i can say is that when it comes to investing in our alliances, the sources of strength at home, the protections of our advanced technologies, these are things we are going to advocate to continue because we think they are not political issues, they are american issues that can serve all of the people of this country. >> reporter: will the president raise the issue of a chinese hacking group when he meets with president xi and any concert waisn a significant iss. terms of their investigation which is ongoing into the hack soon. we here at the white house have stood up at the nsc, what is

called the ucg, unified coordinating group, in order to coordinate the entire u.s. government to be able to deal with this hack, which is a hack of private telecommunications providers but private... >> john: we are going to leave this behind for a little while here with the national security advisor jake sullivan. karine jean-pierre coming up. i thought it was interesting when he was asked about what he would tell michael waltz, the incoming national security advisor, the biggest challenges facing the united states, he said iran at its proxy groups needs to be dealt with. china is a preeminent challenge, and then what to do about russia-ukraine. which is what michael waltz has been talking to us about for years incessantly saying that this white house has not been doing enough to address any of that. i'm not sure how much of a briefing he needs. >> sandra: and he just said himself, jake sullivan, that karine jean-pierre is going to give us more scoop on what was said at that meeting between president biden and

president-elect donald trump. interesting, some exclusive reporting from "the new york post" that spoke to president trump as he was leaving to jpa following the white house meeting. he said it is going very smoothly, both really enjoyed seeing each other. he said we talked a lot about the middle east. i wanted to know his views. trump set about biden, i wanted to know his views on where we are and what he thinks, and he gave them to me. he was very gracious, says trump, but meeting with president biden. >> john: this is the guy who said he wanted to smack him and take him out behind the gym at various points during the election campaign, so it seems it would be nice if they were gracious to each other. it seems as though that likely was the case. decorum ruled the day, interesting to see. >> sandra: karine jean-pierre isn't going to take to the microphone so we will get back to that when she starts taking questions about the meeting. >> john: as we have been pointing out, big day at the white house as the present welcomed donald trump for nearly

two hours in the oval office, with biden ensuring a smooth transition for the president-elect. listen to what he had to say. >> mr. president-elect and former president. >> thank you. >> donald, congratulations. >> thank you. >> looking forward to having, like we said, a smooth transition. >> thank you very much. politics is tough. and its many cases not a very nice world, but it is a nice world today, and i appreciate very much. >> john: all right, burying the hatchet in front of a roaring fire. today, republican senators john thune of south dakota the incoming majority leader. he will be tossed with making sure the senate moves trump's america first agenda forward. we are also still awaiting results for the balance of power in the house, with a dozen races still yet to be called. if republicans clinch this number, which is 218, only two away, they will have control of washington, all of it. even the traffic in january. we've got an all-star panel on deck to react to this.

but first let's get to chad pergram on capitol hill. chad? >> john, good afternoon. senate republicans enter the second trump era with a new majority leader, john thune of south dakota. he topped rick scott and john cornyn. the race went to a second ballot, with thune besting cornyn 29-24. >> we have a mandate for the american people. a mandate not only to clean up the mess left by the biden-harris schumer agenda, but also to deliver on president trump's priorities. >> things were always tenuous between senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and president-elect trump during his first term, but thune has worked to improve his relationship with the incoming president, even though he was critical of mr. trump in 2016 and after the capitol riot. thune serves as minority whip right now. some wanted a clean break from the current leadership team. by rule, rick scott had to drop

out after he came in third on the first ballot. a number of trump loyalists favored scott but he only scored 13 votes. thune must also work with the current democratic leader. >> senator john thune will be the next republican leader in the senate. i congratulate senator thune on being chosen by his colleagues as the next republican leader. we have done many bipartisan things here in the senate together, and i hope that continues. >> senators chose thune via a secret ballot. it's unclear who some senators voted for. republicans who will serve in the new congress were allowed to vote. that include senators-elect and incoming vice president j.d. vance. he remains a senator. ironically, thune becomes the second senate leader from south dakota. he defeated former senate majority and minority leader tom daschle to win his senate seat in 2004. thune starts his new job on

january 3rd. john? >> john: all right, thank you, chad. now this. >> they are going to mobilize all of these resources, all right, deregulation, get rid of some of these agencies and commissions, get rid of funds that shouldn't be spent. elon musk is a hell of a businessman. he likes results. that grandma swami, another businessman, he wants results. so i would take this very seriously. >> john: that was fox business and curve larry kudlow with us last hour, one of president-elect trump's flashiest decisions is elon musk in vivek ramaswamy to lead a new d.o.g.e. gentlemen, i want to warn you, may have to jump to the briefing in a moment's notice. let me start with you, robert, because d.o.g.e. has a target of cutting $2 trillion. donald trump calling it the manhattan project of our time.

but we should point out that a lot of administrations have tried to root out waste, fraud, and abuse with very little effect. >> thanks, john. first of all, i am all for this. i think anytime -- >> john: hang on, robert. i'm sorry, we just want to jump into the briefing. we'll be right back. >> secretary jean-pierre: of having a smooth transition, the importance of having an orderly transition. the president respects the will of the american people and wants to make sure that occurs. that is what he believes the american people deserve. and so that is as far as i can go. that is what i am sharing with you from the president directly. and look, we are going to make sure, as jake sullivan was saying, that his team has what they need, right? they want to make sure that it is indeed an efficient, effective transition so that we can -- so that we hand over the people's business so that they can continue the people's

business. >> reporter: can you say how president biden answered some of those detailed questions? >> secretary jean-pierre: i will say the president certainly look forward to the meeting. appreciated the conversation. and answered any questions that the president-elect had. offered up his thoughts, but i'm not going to go any further than that. >> reporter: you said gracious, cordial, substantive. the president obviously hit on a wide range of issues, but did he get a sense the issues he was impressing upon, any advice he was giving was being well received? >> secretary jean-pierre: i think so. that is why the president was wanting me to let you all know there was, you know, a very good back and forth. and... it was substantive, as i mentioned before, and i want to be mindful, it was a private conversation, so i don't want to go into specifics or details, but look, they met for more than

two hours. they met for a very long time. or nearly two hours, pardon me. and i think by the length of the meeting tells you that they had an in-depth conversation on an array of issues. and so, look, the president reached out to the president-elect, wanting to make sure that he gave an opportunity to the president-elect, afforded him that opportunity to have a meeting with him to talk about the different issues that matter to the american people, but nearly two hours, i think says a lot about how the meeting went. reporter make any plans to keep in mind of clean occasion open? >> secretary jean-pierre: the resident will obviously keep that line of medication open to the president-elect. we've got to remember this was not about the two presidents. this was not about president biden or president-elect trump. this is about the american people and what is right for the american people. and if anything the president has lead by example, right, over the last week now on making sure

that we have this cordial transition of power. sit. >> reporter: president-elect trump nominee for defense secretary has questioned whether or not women should serve in combat roles in the military. i am wondering what the administration makes of that. is there any concern about women's abilities to serve in roles going forward? >> secretary jean-pierre: i'm not going. >> sandra: this pick. the president-elect is going to lay out his personnel and who he wants to fill his cabinet positions and be in the white house and we will give them the space to do that. but i think we have been very clear about how we see the importance of gender equality. the importance of women in the workforce. i think we have been an administration that has led on that issue. and certainly we do not agree with those views, but that is

for obviously the president-elect to speak to his picks and i'm going to let them do that. >> reporter: you said the president-elect came with a detailed set of questions. that is surprising to me. what was on his list? >> secretary jean-pierre: i'm not going to go into details of what was on the list. i shared that and the president wanted you all to know that because we want to be very clear, it was actually a substantive meeting. nearly two hours. there was a lot discussed. there was a lot of back and forth. and not going to go into the specifics. i think that the president-elect wants to share his set of questions to president biden, he certainly can and will if he chooses, but wanted to give you as much information as i could without -- without, you know, going into too much specifics on a private conversation. >> secretary reporter matt was the list typed out? >> secretary jean-pierre: i appreciate the effort. i don't have anything beyond

that. >> reporter: the issue of the fact that president trump did not acknowledge president biden as the winner of the 2020 election come up? >> secretary jean-pierre: what we want to do is move forward. we do. no, seriously. what we want to do is move forward. we respect the will of the people. there was an election, as you know, last week, and the american people spoke. and so the president is going to make sure that he puts the american people first. he is going to make sure that we move forward in this process and this transitional process, in a way that is respectful to the american people and to lead by example, and so that's our focus. that's what we want to do. i think the president has shown that in the past week, of that leadership, and so that's what you're going to hear. that's what we are going to continue to do in the 68 days that we have left in this and administration. >> reporter: i understand that. that just seems like a piece of unfinished business between them. did it come up at all? >> secretary jean-pierre: that is something, certainly, that i

would be for the president-elect to speak to. what i can speak to is this president wanting to focus on the american people, wanting to focus on issues that matter, the master policy issues, national security issues that are critical and important in how we move forward as a country. >> john: all right, karine jean-pierre there in the brady briefing room talking about or not talking about the meeting between president trump and president biden. she did say they talked for almost two hours, so clearly there is a lot of subtext here that we don't know a whole lot about, other than what "the new york post" has told us because they had a conversation with the president-elect on the way to andrews air force base. one of the most substantive thing is they talked a lot about the middle east. he said i wanted to ask for his views, trump talking about biden, and he gave them to me. also we talked very much about the middle east, likewise i wanted to know his views on where we are and what he thinks, and he gave them to me. he was very gracious, which i think is the most interesting note there, considering what went on the campaign trail.

>> sandra: that was trump saying that of biden in this meeting. reporter just a moment ago was asking about the detailed list p reportedly walked in with. well, we know from "the new york post" reporting that was the case because trump said himself to "the post" he had questions and asked biden for his views and biden gave them to him. but the meeting was two hours, as she continues to say, it was private so she is not revealing all of the contents of it but she has used the words cordial, gracious, and substantive on multiple occasions, and called it a very good back and forth. as far as a peaceful transition of power, i suppose you can say we are seeing that, john. >> john: yeah, and one thing to keep in mind, too, perhaps at the root of the cordiality of the meeting is the fact that joe biden did not lose to donald trump in this election. joe biden was unceremoniously shoved aside by his party. somebody else was brought in without a width of a process on the democratic side, and she lost. so biden is clear on that front.

>> sandra: and no word on whether or not the vice president kamala harris would be meeting with him today. we are told that is not happening. >> john: i think trump's gone already so i don't think that meeting will be happening. all right, president-elect's trumps new border czar, singh to focus on pollick safety threats but trump's policies already getting pushback and in. massachusetts resident stephanie mulroy reacts coming up today. most people don't know where their meat is sourced. for generations, people had access to quality local meats from american farms and ranches. at good ranchers, we're reviving that tradition by partnering with ranchers and farmers. no imports. just 100% american born, raised and harvested meat. delivered directly to you. we select only the finest cuts that we would feed our family. visit good ranchers dot com and discover american meat delivered.

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fraud, and abuse. you said you are all for this. >> i am all for it. and on i think four of these type of advisory boards, the jobs council, the export council, the defense business board, and one thing you see is incredible inefficiencies. my biggest concern with someone like elon is he is brilliant, is that the budget is only about $7 trillion, and i know that sounds like a ton, but 60% of it is mandatory. things like social security, medicare, medicaid. 30% is discretionary, which have his military. and 10% his interest income. so when you say you are cutting $2 trillion, and by the way congress has the power of the purse, i'm just curious about where his brilliance is going to get that $2 trillion from. so i am all for it. i hope every congressman has to stand in line and go up and down on every line item for all i

care. >> john: all right, we will see if they can do that. if anybody can do that, it is a guy who can catch rockets. elon musk tweeted on x, all actions of the government efficiency will be posted online for maximum transparency. any time the public thinks we are cutting something important or not cutting something wasteful, just let us know. we will also have a leaderboard for the most insanely dumb spending of your tax dollars. this will be both extremely tragic and extremely entertaining. apparently the website is live already. >> so, by the way, i think it would be very important to have people like robert wolf on this commission. we don't know if it is going to be a blue ribbon, outside commission, we don't know all of the details of this. by the way, i have also worked on a couple of presidential commissions back in the reagan and bush years. these can be highly effective tools to achieve policy goals. but it has to be bipartisan. that's why somebody like robert would be great.

and it has to have really smart people. when he said -- when elon said we could cut $2 trillion, that sound like a lot to me, too, i think that is a bit of a stretch. i do believe there is of millions of dollars of fraud, inefficiency, redundancy programs that are obsolete, and, very effective to have an organization outside of government look in and say why are you spending money on this? why are you spending money on that? and this is important. look, we are running a $2 trillion deficit so this kind of thing is very necessary. >> john: you remember in the obama administration, simpson-bowles went through everything from stem to stern and identified all of these places where you could cut we spoke government spending or unnecessary spending or duplication or whatever. they handed it to obama, and obama said, that's great, but i'll never get it through congress. so trump is going to have to get some of this stuff through congress. how does he do that? >> here's what was interesting, and steve and i used to debate about it, during the continuing

resolution, obama had what was called pay-4s. he couldn't at a nickel to it if it wasn't paid for. there are times, believe me, when congress wants to strap in and make sure they tighten it up, they can do that, but congress hasn't wanted to do that. remember, they are the ones that hold the purse. i think the first thing -- and steve mentioned it last week with sandra -- if we can get growth up, and we can start reducing debt, then this will all be a lot easier because right now we are spending almost a trillion a year just on interest income. >> john: yeah, i mean, and that's killing us. let me take you back to january the 23rd, steve, 1996, then-president bill clinton said this. >> we have worked to give the american people a smaller, less bureaucratic government in washington. and we have to give the american people one that lives within its means. the era of big government is

over. [applause] >> john: democrats seemed to love that back in 1996. he got cheers for it. what happened, steve? >> well, look, i have to say that bill clinton was probably the most fiscally conservative president of my lifetime. we did balance the budget. after we had a republican congress and bill clinton in the white house, we did a lot of cutting. we did grow the economy. as you guys were just talking about. i just want to address one point that robert made where i disagree with him a little bit. it is true that entitlement programs like medicare and medicaid and social security are a big part of the budget, but there is a lot of fraud and wasteful spending on those programs, too, in terms of the money going to people, criminals who are within off the system, so that has to be a big part of it, too. ronald reagan once said the closest thing to immortality on this earth is a federal government program. there are programs that have been around for 100 years and nobody even knows what they do

anymore. >> john: and they are probably four of than they do the same thing, as well. stevesteve moore, robert wolf, e will see what. >> sandra: need to does but it is live on the internet right now. now this. >> he is putting together an amazing cabinet and amazing transparency that the american people can once again trust our government. >> sandra: president-elect trump making his historic return to washington and the white house today, his second administration at a rapid pace. our all-star panel of ari fleischer and mark penn are on deck. they will join us live next.

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he has already spoken with president-elect trump, we don't know the details of the conversation, he takes position in the new congress. john thune had a press conference a few minutes ago and was asked a lot about how he would run the senate, would he maintain the legislative filibuster? he said yes. and the onus is going to be on the republican senate to get some of these nominations through. he was asked about how much trouble that would be. he said look we have advice and consent response abilities in the senate. we will move them in an expeditious fashion. supported john cornyn but was pleased with thune's commitment to other republicans in the conference. >> john: chad pergram with an update. sandra? >> sandra: president-elect trump promising to ramp up deportations of illegal migrants, massachusetts democratic governor maura healey says her state is not going to help, so how will this affect local communities?

it's a huge question right now. joining us is stephanie mulroy, she's a lifelong massachusetts resident and is raising four children in that state. thank you very much for your time. yes, it's been a clear message of his campaign, and now president-elect trump that he will deport these illegal migrant criminals. how does someone like you feel about that? and what do you want to see happen? >> thank you so much. yes, i have been a resident of massachusetts my entire life. i'm raising four school-age children here, and over 30 nieces and nephews, and i have to tell you, i'm worried. i'm worried about our kids, i'm worried about their safety, but i'm also not without compassions. we here in massachusetts have a commonwealth that has been diverse since the '80s when i remember going to school, full of non-english-speaking students. but our right to shelter law that was created in the '80s has been abused and misinterpreted by maura healey during the entire course of her administration.

so much so that she has created the commonwealth to become basically a magnet for criminals from all over our country. just recently there was an illegal immigrant who was caught and released in arizona, and then picked up on the streets of boston after committing heinous crimes against a child. i.c.e. was looking to detain this criminal but the courts under the healy administration were forced to let him go. thankfully that individual was picked up by the boston pd, but that is just one person out of thousands that are wandering our streets and in our schools and in our hotels and in shelters across the state, parents can't just let their children walk downtown to go get a soda without wondering who might be intercepting them on the way. it's terrifying, and it's also speaking to the fact that this administration here in massachusetts, governor maura healey, clearly does not care what the voters want to see happen here in

massachusetts. we spoke during the last election. almost every community in massachusetts meant more right than they have ever been before. and it looks like maura healey is doubling down on just completely rejecting the will of the residents massachusetts. >> sandra: speaking of which, here is the governor in her own words. this was on wednesday. listen. >> if the trump administration requested, with the massachusetts state police assist in mass deportations? >> no. absolutely not. every tool in the toolbox is going to be used to protect our citizens, to protect our residents, and protect our states, and certainly to hold the line on democracy and the rule of law. >> sandra: no, absolutely not. if the trump administration requested massachusetts state police assist in these mass deportations. final thought from you? >> yeah, i think that she is absolutely hypocritical. she's relying on emotional appeals to people, and not taking into account the facts.

the fact that we have a housing crisis here in massachusetts, which she seems to be very vocal about, but makes no means or no motions to actually deport or remove the people that are using our right to shelter law in an abusive way so that young moms, homeless people, veterans aren't able to use the resources that we have here in massachusetts and that we have in place for our residents. the criminality of these illegals that are all over the place here and in a lot of our detainment facilities and then being completely released without any involving of i.c.e., it's ridiculous. i'm working with amy carnevale to try to get another governor lined up for the next election and i have to say to maura healey, thank you, you are doing a great job because you are turning this state more and more purple every day. >> sandra: as a mother of four, we hear the concern, obviously, in your voice, and we know this is also costing

taxpayers a lot of money. the cost of illegal immigration in your state according to federation for american immigration reform, there are 292,000 of them living in massachusetts. there is almost 100,000 students in local schools. this is costing massachusetts household over $1,000 per household. we thank you for joining us very much, stephanie. thank you for your time. >> my pleasure. >> sandra: all right. john? >> john: sandra, historic handshake earlier today in the oval office between two presidents. our panel of ari fleischer and mark penn on the fast-moving transition just ahead.

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>> john: president biden and president-elect trump both bowing a smooth transition of power during their historic

meeting at the white house. it lasted for nearly two hours. let's bring in ari fleischer, former white house press secretary and fox news contributor, and m mark penn, former clinton advisor and pollster. it must have been an interesting meeting because remember what biden said on several occasions about trump. listen here. >> this is the kind of guy you like to smack. >> i wish we were in high school, i could take him behind the gym. that's what i wish. >> john: all right, so biden was talking tough about trump. trump comes, the two of them share handshake. mark, politics ain't beanbag but that seemed to go well beyond politics. >> seemed to, but i remember the days where president clinton, we would bash speaker gingrich all day long and then be negotiating with him at night to get to a balanced budget, so i little politics is everybody goes after everybody. i think political rhetoric in the campaigns has gotten a little extreme, so i'm quite happy to see that we are not

facing chaos after this election. we are facing a handshake. we are facing adults, you know, transferring power. orderly transition. the fact that we are seeing all of these things to me is a great relief. >> john: ari, i don't want to go over all of the scare tactics democrats used to try to get people to vote against trump so we can probably leave that one for now. i wanted to look for the future and the most recent trump staff announcement, secretary of defense pete hegseth, dhs kristi noem, john ratcliffe cia director, mike huckabee the u.s. ambassador to israel. what do you think of the way that trump is putting together his team? >> you know, i think when you're at it all up what donald trump is put together is a cabinet that is going to focus on america's enlisted men and women. it is going to focus on the fbi, cops on the street, firemen, blue-collar workers. you just get the sense that this is the shift. it's been an underlying generational shift inside the

republican and democratic parties, where the democrats are increasingly becoming the party that represents wealthy americans, americans with college degrees and post graduate degrees, the republicans are changing. much more of a blue-collar working class party. i get that same sense with the people he is appointing and what their mission is. as for the middle east, wow. i mean, you cannot imagine people who are more pro-israel, and if you want to bring peace to the region, let the shiite arabs no that the sunni arabs and the israeli state are united and that america is with them and that you are going to see hezbollah and hamas cave, and i wouldn't be surprised if the hostages get released. >> john: yeah, i think a lot is going to change in the next six to five days. mark, elizabeth warren decided that she wanted to go on x and talk about pete hegseth. she said, "a "fox & friends weekend" cohost is not qualified to be the secretary of defense. idly the senate military personnel panel. all three of my brothers served

in uniform. i respect everyone of our service members. donald trump pick will make us less safe and must be rejected." well, first of all she says she respect all service members. doesn't sound like she respects hegseth. i looked through her degree. unlike pete headset, she did not attend princeton or go to graduate school at harvard, so a position to be throwing stones? >> well, throwing stones is what she does. this is still politics, even when you are in the majority or the minority. you can expect some of these appointments to get picked at. look, i think he has in record time made a number of appointments here. nobody left in the senate and house for a while, we would have an incredible number of special elections coming our way. to diversify the picks somewhat. obviously he knew when he was picking pete for secretary of

defense there was going to be controversial. he is going to get advise and consent. record of serving in the military, written about the military, and he will testify before the senate. if he holds up well, he will get confirmed. >> john: real quick, ari, to you. john thune for senate majority leader. is he going to rubber-stamp trump's agenda or will again the senate be the great cooling pot of congress? >> look, the job of a majority leader and a speaker of the house is to usher through the president's agenda. doesn't matter if it was george w. bush or now donald trump. that is their mission. i think you are going to see john thune do that. the senate is an independent institution. they elect their own. but than their job is to support that president's agenda. that is what they are going to do. >> john: ari fleischer, mark penn, great to see you gentlemen. thank you so much.e up >> thank you. t >> john: we'll be right backhe. , he's just there always.

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>> for the words -- >> an apology from president biden? >> for some of the words used on the campaign trail be one look at we have done this a couple of times, about being a threat to democracy in the past week, the president will always feel obligated to be honest with the american people. >> john: [laughter] no apology there! >> sandra: that was a rocking couple of hours john,. >> john: i was going to say we learned a lot, the new center -- senate majority leader, cabinet members, still waiting to see who had won in the house, waiting to find the final result. >> sandra: a thank you for joining us everybody it, i'm thi sandra smith. >> john:rld and i'm john robert the story with martha maccallum starts right after this, stayve tuned pickst that goes up with the market. their gains lock in, and when the market goes down,

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