but, you know, if the brand -- i will acknowledge the brand has got some issues right now, and i think there has got to be a lot of introspection going on, and i think how we talk with people and frankly how we listen to people, not just talk to people, listen, is where it starts. i still fundamentally believe that the best politics in this country are done, sounds a little naive, but in a bipartisan way so that at the end of the day both teams on the solution. because no matter what we do as congress or as president, you are never going to get 100% right so you have to have a willingness to work together and come back. >> neil: there is a concept. senator warner, thick so much for joining us. mark warner of virginia. by the way, the dow finished above 47 points today so nonplussed reaction to all of this. here is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> dana: hello, everyone. i'm dana perino one of judge jeanine pirro,

harold ford jr., jesse watters, and greg gutfeld piglets have o'clock in new york city, and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ president-elect donald trump in washington today and making ways as he rapidly fills out his cabinet peered the past couple of hours, he has announced that marco rubio will be secretary of state. tulsi gabbard national intelligence. matt gaetz as attorney general. comes as a whirlwind day for the incoming president who had a big meeting with president biden in the oval office. here is that historic moment. >> mr. president-elect and former president. >> thank you. >> donald, congratulations. >> thank you. >> looking forward to having, like we said, a smooth transition. >> thank you very much, and politics is tough. and it's many cases not a very nice world, but it is a nice world today and i appreciate it

very much. >> dana: that meeting lasting about two hours. so what was said behind closed doors? donald trump revealing to "the new york post" that he and biden both enjoyed seeing each other and adding this, we really had a very good meeting. i asked for his views and he gave them to me. also we talked very much about the middle east, likewise i wanted to know his views on where we are and what he thinks and he gave them to me. he was very gracious. and the white house calling it a very cordial, very gracious and substantive meeting. what happened to all of that threat to democracy stuff? karine jean-pierre had this to say about that. >> a lot was set on the campaign trail like trump is a dangerous threat to our country and our democracy. was there an apology today? >> i'm sorry? >> was there an apology from president biden for the words used? >> the president is going to always feel obligated to be honest with the american people. what he says still stands. >> dana: harold, it's great to have you back around the table. and we haven't had a chance to

hear from you this week on "the five" yet so let's turn the floor over to you. >> harold: so congratulations again to the president. i thought today's meeting was full of both substance and pageantry. it's one of those meetings, that picture there is something that says to the world that as harsh as the president, former president, president-elect acknowledges it can become as rough and tumble as it can be rhetorically, that the leaders of the respective parties can come together, give not only transfer power, but each of them converse with one another about things that they are thinking about and current president sharing with this president some of the things on his mind. i do believe that president trump, i heard he said early, i was on a show, 11:00 show this morning, and john roberts made a really, really good point, i think a point that some probably had made but i hadn't thought about it quite as clearly until he said it, that the four years away from the oval office president trump will likely make him a better president.

a more productive president. because he understands what he's getting into. he has a clarity of purpose, clarity of mind. obviously as we seen out with some of the announcements about picks for serious, and important jobs in the administration, buts today and hopeful that those in congress watched this and realized that we've got a lot of things that they campaigned on, including taxes and making the country, our borders safe and communities safer from crime, and president trump wants to do those things. he's going to need partners in congress. the senate has a majority leader john tune, they will hit the ground running. >> dana: judge come all of these people who want to go to the airport and leave the country because they were afraid there wouldn't be a peaceful transition of power, this looks pretty optimistic. >> judge jeanine: i think americans should look at this in the age we are seeing and think about this day as a very serious day and appreciate the fact that it reflects a smooth transition of power. you know, trump was called

everything from a threat to democracy if he were elected, you know, it would be the end of america as we knew it. there were people trying to kill him. he got shot. and he came in as a gentleman. donald trump, whether it's because he's more serious now, i'm not sure what the reason is, i think president-elect donald trump, excuse me, understands that he has a job to do and he's not going to waste his time, you know, getting involved in the little tit for tats that we may have seen during the first term. and we know that already because there was so much said by people on msnbc and cnn. he didn't even respond to any of it, so he is very focused, and i think he was very gracious given how the man on his right said that he was a threat to democracy and he was hitler and a fascist. i don't know that many people who could actually have sat there with a smile and said, you know, politics is tough but today is a great day.

and what i think is also interesting, i'll just end on this, jill biden apparently gave a letter to president-elect trump, you know, she is, she was the one who i think could have a lot of bad feelings. she felt that joe was thrown out and then they blamed joe afterwards and she was sitting next to kamala on veterans day, they didn't even look at each other. it will be interesting to see and hear what she has when she is out of the white house. >> dana: if he writes another book, indeed. one of the first things president trump did, jesse, was go to the house republicans, thank speaker johnson, sais peter johnson is the guy, let's not have any of these shenanigans or any of these liks saying. >> jesse: mike johnson sitting there, but i have to say something nice about joe biden, and i don't know why i'm feeling this way, maybe because greg is wearing animal skins or the stock market is roaring or i know every single member of the

cabinet -- [laughter] some of them even only money. but biden was gracious today. and the country needed that. and i don't know why he chose this tradition of lunch to be gracious after he disrespected the tradition of oh, i don't know, rating your rivals house, resting him and calling him hitler. not inside biden's brain. he probably doesn't know what he is think he, either. but the country needed to see these two leaders sitting in chairs by a fire and pretending that they don't want to strangle each other. we needed that. now melania's absence was obviously an admission that joe biden is disgusted. why would donald trump high documents in his wife's underwear drawer while he lives in a 100,000 square-foot mansion? it's the dumbest hiding place of all time and that is why joe is a little sick. let's put that aside. can you believe pete hegseth is going to be the next secretary of defense? so i had a hard time wrapping my head around it last night.

and now i love it. and then, as i was wrapping my head around it, mostly thinking about how i can benefit from it, can i use this plane to go somewhere? >> dana: no. >> jesse: no is the answer. i've been told that already. and then they hit me with gaetz. and i'm starting to understand greg's pirate analogy. and it reminded me of the '92 dream team. remember, harold -- >> harold: i do. >> jesse: they assembled magic, mike, and larry, and no one thought about that and now this is what you are looking at. they a dream team, they are assembling stars which i happen to know intimately. i'm so excited for this country -- not for me personally, although that is there -- i am just so excited for the change we are going to see in the next four years. >> dana: confirmation -- >> jesse: and i'm not talking about -- [laughter] >> dana: greg, would you like to get a comment on what you are wearing -- >> jesse: please. >> greg: very comfortable.

if it seems control to you, it is. no, you're going to hr, dana. but this is where 60 million people just realized another media narrative is alive because they are all lies. how can that guy be hitler when you welcome him with such regard. enough about that. i'm with jesse at this. i'm looking at the speed of these nominations. and the type of them. and there are no fs given. it is the difference between wanting something and deciding. in 2016, trump wanted to be president, he wanted to lead, he wanted to get stuff done. second time around, he's decided. there is no longer any decision-making. you can feel it. it's deliberate. it's definitive. we felt this way before, you wanted to move. wanted to quit a job, and a relationship. and then there is that moment that you decide, and boom, boom, boom boom boom. everyone around you realizes, wow, this is more than a

victory. in fact, it is transformational. it's not just that the democrats were vanquished, but an entire age has closed. the death of identity politics. of race-based reward and punishment. the tierney of the aggrieved. and a new age has started. i'm never been more hopeful or optimistic in my life, there was not just an election, it was a turning point, and i want democrats to thrive during this period. but the only way for the democrats to be happy, whether they like it or not, is they have to think less about identity and more about the outside world. start with your family and your friends and your spirituality. don't listen to "the view" when they say you should cut off these people that disagree with you. that is a mistake. you see so many upset people right now, and it's because they became obsessed about their identity, which feeds into your ego, and then when your ego takes a hit, you are miserable. so if you live outside yourself

and you remove identity pol politics, you remove the fuel for your ego. identity politics was a complicated word for "mimi me." this is why, when you saw people entrenched in it, they were so miserable, they were so blind, they couldn't talk to other people. if you replace that inner turmoil with curiosity and service for the outside world, you will be so much happier. it's really ironic that make america great again is about the future. because it's talking about the past. but you found out that the dems with the past in every respect. they felt it necessary to judge present-day individuals by people who existed 100-200 years ago. we are innocent. they also relied on past media narratives about how people work. this is how black people think. this is how brown people think. right? and they missed out on the sentiment of millions and millions of people.

the country was no longer buying what they were selling and they wanted to do something. now they decided. >> dana: it's like everybody is back on the same page that america is an exceptional country. and you have to participate in it to feel that way. >> greg: you feel it too, harold. i know you feel it. >> harold: i said that picture of the president sitting there, you can't help but be hopeful. >> dana: i have to say one thing, that fire was roaring. it was like 75 degrees there today, so i don't know, a little atmospheric for me. coming up, it is the united states of d.o.g.e. -- how are we saying this? doja cat? donald trump taps elon musk and vivek ramaswamy two slash the size of government. ♪ ♪ doctor box, there were many failed attempts to fix my teeth. i retouched all my wedding photos, and it was even affecting my health. i trusted you because you specialize in dental implants. you created a permanent solution and customized my teeth so it still felt like me.

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♪ ♪ >> judge jeanine: get ready for the united states of d.o.g.e. donald trump is tapping elon musk and vivek ramaswamy to head up his new department of government efficiency, a.k.a. d.o.g.e. the pair will work together to take a blowtorch to bloated government waste and dismantle its bureaucracy. musk saying "all actions on the department of the government of efficiency will be posted online for maximum transparency. any time the public thinks we are cutting something important or not cutting something wasteful, just let us know." and here is musk making a sales pitch while on the campaign trail last month. >> your money is being wasted, and the department of government efficiency is going to fix that. [applause] we are going to get the

government off your back and out of your pocketbook. [applause] >> judge jeanine: musk joining president-elect trump on his trip to washington and got a standing ovation during a meeting with congressional republicans. >> elon has been so -- [applause] >> judge jeanine: [laughs] wow, that looks great. you know, jesse, how unusual. i mean, the power of eliminating positions and sectors and agencies and line items from people who weren't even elected and aren't employees, but we have total faith in those two. >> jesse: i do. i love those two, and i like them together. musk and vivek. just perfect. and i think musk might be running for president p or i'm going to put it out there -- >> judge jeanine: where was he born? >> jesse: oh, he can't --

>> judge jeanine: hello, jesse. i'm predicting he is not running for president. so i looked at some of the things we are spending money on. $20,000 for a drag show in ecuador. $100,000 to study if sunfish become more aggressive when given gin or tequila. $100,000 to study if quail are more promiscuous if given cocaine. you don't need a study -- they are. $200,000 to make money monkeys transgender. so you take that off the table right there, and then we get ripped off for half a trillion dollars, judge, each year, for fraud. we are defrauded for a half a trillion dollars. they just steal it, and no one cares, no one does anything about it. we have had now four years in a row of $7 trillion budget. now before the pandemic it was like $3 trillion or $4 trillion. we kept it going even after the pandemic was over. you've got to slash that. get rid of all of the departments, and make sure some of these people, if you move say

the department of education to, i don't know, omaha, maybe people don't want to relocate to omaha. maybe that may prompt them to look for jobs elsewhere and that could help us out a lot. because $36 trillion in debt. [laughter] >> judge jeanine: all right, dana. d.o.g.e. it's an interesting term. it's a form of cryptocurrency. and what's amazing about it is there is no relation to joe chicoine the department of government efficiency. but it appeals to the crypto brose. it is like part of this feeling we have about this new administration, it is kind of contemporary, it is with it. >> dana: this has been tried for to but not to this extent over these kind the people are technology. every and administration comes in, we are going to do this, cut red tape and get rid of wasteful spending. the difference is a couple of things. one, the two people involved they probably never need to work

another day in their life if they didn't want to. they are doing this because they believe in public service and they want the country to be better so their intentions are there. and they are not looking to help themselves necessarily. however, don't add me on the electric vehicles, i'm going to get to that. the other thing that is different, actually very good communicators. they will be able to do all those things that jesse just said. but they will also use the technology in order to make it very transparent so every buddy can see it, you don't just have to watch one network or see it in one newspaper, it will be there for everyone to see. i'm interested to see if they do some thing on the real estate issue because so many government employees have not come back to the office that we are paying rent, federal taxpayers are paying rent on buildings where you have 7% occupancy, and that should end. that should go away. that's one thing. but if you look at the budget as a pie, the majority of the spending is mandatory spending on medicare and social security, so you can do all of those things and it won't take you one

day into taking care of the interest that we pay on our debt. >> jesse: but we won't be touching social security -- >> dana: we will not be. so they have their work cut out for them, but i think both of them, one having done a significant amount of inno innovation, and electric vehicles and other things, rockets and all of that stuff, he knows what it's like to be under the heavy thumb of government. and vivek ramaswamy on the health care side of things, personally watching my husband build a business for a product that is basically just building a better mousetrap, it is not anything new, and it takes so long to get anything approved -- >> judge jeanine: a better what? >> dana: a better mousetrap, it's not a mousetrap, it's a surgical device, but it's a phrase. if you want to make a better mousetrap, the federal government makes it hard to get -- that's the type they are talking about, i believe. >> judge jeanine: harold come on the left, i think alex wagner said this whole thing is so orwellian. why is it so hard for people on the left to believe there are those who have, you know,

positive interests in bettering this country? especially with elon musk. >> harold: he -- the last time we had a balanced budget was 1998. a democrat was in the white house. to dana's point, the leader, the president she worked for had ideas on this. president obama introduced simpson-bowles, they came up with ideas to reduce the debt but president obama didn't support their ideas once they put forward. you even had president clinton, he came in and allowed al gore to run something called we invented government. i'm rooting for vivek. i'm rooting for elon in this regard. i think the fact that neither of them have to work again -- >> need to is worth a couple hundred billion dollars. and a lot of that wealth, it emanates from the car company. he understands the importance of government in the private sector because his space company and one of his other companies, including tesla, has benefited from urgent government policy.

it's going to be interesting because jesse, you made the point, social security won't be touched. i don't know how you really make a dent in the federal debt without looking at the entitlement programs. not suggesting they/things, but you are not going to be taken seriously when you talk about deficit reduction if you don't do that. the other reason i think it is important for president from to have this effort underway, formalizing the department, is that some of the things he is talking about, tax cuts and other things, including tariffs, all of those have the capacity and the ability, at least in the past, to trigger inflation. so the way you would counter that is reduce spending in other areas, so i rooting for these guys, and i'm hopeful they can find bipartisan ways to get this done because you are going to need democrats and her pub is to agree to long-term fixes. >> judge jeanine: but you know one of the interesting things ie government. you really don't have to scare people about entitlements. if we can start getting rid of

the fraud in terms of medicare and medicaid, i mean, as a local d.a., i found millions -- it wasn't even my charge. >> harold: i don't think you are going to find $36 trillion. >> judge jeanine: going to find a lot. anyway, greg, you want to wrap it up the way you want to wrap it up? >> greg: i'm disgusted that your husband makes mouse traps. very cruel way -- >> dana: someone's got to do it. >> greg: a very cruel way to end a mouse's life. if you think this is a bad idea, harold, then you are a debt denier. >> harold: i said -- >> greg: i know, i'm just kidding. it is a massive existential catastrophe just waiting for us. you can actually use the language of climate change correctly when talking about the debt. the only difference is we can actually do something about the debt. i love how they gave themselves a deadline. bureaucrats never do that. there only deadlines are when they are getting ready to go on vacation. july 4th, 2026, 18 months, it's an economic moon shot.

none of these so-called experts, political leaders took this roll -- knowing that there is $35 trillion just sitting there because a lot of these guys, let's be honest, they are going to be dead before the debt ever comes do so they don't care, that will be for somebody else, but this is what happens when you have the people in the government making decisions about how much money they get. so you need an outside force to come in, like these two fellas, they are the necessary outsiders. they are the bruce wayne and grayson of our economy and they are literally working for us without getting a dime, i think it's great. so in your face, harold. >> judge jeanine: and everyone agrees the government is spending too much. anyway, ahead, the war on woke could be coming to the pentagon. president-elect trump taps our pete hegseth for secretary of defense. ♪ ♪ (♪)

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peace, ♪ ♪ >> jesse: america's enemies and woke pentagon bureaucrats are on notice. president-elect trump nominating pete hegseth as secretary of defense. headset lives and breeds the military. 20 plus years of service, did tours in iraq and afghanistan, two bronze stars. >> harold: need to also has degrees from princeton and harvard but -- pete also literally wrote the book on how to root out the woke insanity that has weakened our military, the man knows his stuff. when you heard about this, greg, last night around 7:00, what crossed your mind? >> greg: i'm losing yet another guest. i think the gutfeld show is going to be staffing the entire white house. he projects secretary of defense, kind of the way homan

projects border czar and jesse projects shallow frat boy. >> jesse: department! >> greg: heat is a guy, not a guy in a dress, not going to make you read a manual on diversity, equity, and inclusion. the media criticism right now is an appeal to authority. like who is this guy? as if they don't know how to google and find out he had two bronze stars, two decades in the military, also one of the most persuasive defenders of the military. he is what actors play in movies. he is what clooney impersonates. again, it goes back to my point about the avengers. they got the actors. we got the real people. hegseth was the first and most persuasive voice trying to preserve the lethality of our fighting forces under attack from the scourge of identity politics. lethality is a primary mission and it is only achievable through meritocracy which is the enemy of dei. military personnel, they cannot

be splintered into competing self interests, which is encouraged, of course, by identity politics. he undermines the cohesion of the fighting group. and so he is right at that spirit. of making changes. and he is pretty fearless. my problem is he is so unattractive. very homely man. >> jesse: this also shows how powerful trump is at this point. he's not afraid of the media, not afraid of democrats. he puts who he wants where he wants them. >> dana: i do think the initial reaction was shock, and then as you read through later in the day, people were like, actually, an inspired choice. and i say that because of having gotten a lot of text messages going what is going on? a couple of things. one, he is a great communicator. and one of the things we have not had in the last four years is somebody who can articulate what is america's position on this policy here, here, here around the world, and where are we going? this is where we are going, this is what we want to get to.

also he understands his audience. his audience is not just people on "fox & friends" that watch fox and friends. if he gets this job -- and i assume he will get confirmed or however they decides to do it with the recess appointments, his audience will be our adversaries, our allies, and our troops, and he understands that and is very good at it. anyone who is like who is this guy? read one of his books. he is an excellent writer and a great thinker. the books he has done on the military are great, but also his book on education was one of the best, and if you're worried about your kids education, he talks about classical education. also the people complaining about him are the ones who thought that an indecisive and skittish kamala harris should be commander in chief. and i just want to point out a couple other things. joe biden named this woman tracy stone manning to run the blm, bureau of land management, greg, she had direct ties to a niko terrorist organization. than after the october 7th attack in nominated lifetime

judgeship to a guy who had hosted anti-semitic groups on campus and defended cop killers. he had the luggage thief to oversee nuclear waste disposal, good thing he didn't steal any of that. i could go on and on but the last one i would mention is someone who literally invested in ev battery companies while serving as the energy secretary of the country. if you are going to be all up in arms about one nomination, just give pete a chance. i think he will do a great job. >> greg: give pete a chance. >> jesse: give pete a chance. nice, very well done. judge jeanine? >> judge jeanine: i was ecstatic when i heard the news. you know, like vivek, like elon, he's an outsider, he's in america first guy. we all love him here. he is a great guy. he respects everyone. for those people who may not know him, he's got all the accolades necessary. i mean, the two bronze stars, what is it, the combat infantry

badge, et cetera, et cetera. he's written a bunch of books, and i agree, the one on education is excellent. but even more important than that is the fact that he is so anti-dei, anti-crt, and he said he's going to start with the joint chiefs, and he's going to make sure that he weeds out those individuals, you know, who don't recognize that, you know, their allegiance is to america first. and that's what we can count on pete for. and i think it's also interesting that elizabeth warren would criticize him. she's defending tim walz, who lied about stolen valor, from carrying a weapon in war, from being on the tarmac in bagram, to not ditching his own battalion the night before, and she wants to support tim walz, but not pete hegseth, who was a

real combat infantry man, who has spent his life fighting for the military, having people who were in the military, have a voice, using him as pretty much, you know, the trumpet through whom they could speak, so i think it's symbolic he was announced on veterans day, that night, and i think it is a phenomenal pick. i am so excited for him. >> jesse: these hearings for the confirmation are going to be interesting. harold. if liz warren wants to pick a fight with pistol pete. >> harold: first of all, congratulations to pete and his family. i have not known him as long as you guys have known him but the few years i have been at the network he has been nothing but a good friend and a gentleman, so congratulations to him. you talked about his experience in the military. i would add two other things. he has the confidence of the leader of the free world, the president believes in pete. and when you have that kind of relationship with the president, when your defense secretary, it

it allows you to speak with not only a degree of candor, but within the degree of authority across the globe. he will inspire confidence in the rank-and-file. that's a huge task he will have in front of him as pete knows well because the new pentagon, our new defense posture over the next 10-20 years will rely heavily on new innovation and new technology, and having someone who is young, someone who remains connected to the military, somewhat outspoken on issues, i don't agree with pete all of the things he has stated over the years but here's someone who is smart, thoughtful, who will listen, who will bring i think a fresh dose of leadership to the pentagon, i wish him well as he goes through the confirmation process. i differ slightly, i don't want any recess appointments. everyone should have to go through a full confirmation hearing. i have nothing but confidence pete will make his way through that. but for the country's sake we shuffle confirmation hearings for everybody. >> jesse: he doesn't even have to -- you deserve it, secretary. liberal leaders haven't learned. chicago mayor brandon johnson

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♪ ♪ >> judge jeanine: what is this? [laughs] >> greg: one week after trump made historic gains of among voters in the deep blue city of chicago, the windy city's mayor brandon johnson's branding trump a threat to minorities and migrants. >> the president-elect, former president trump, his threat is not just toward news new arrivals and undocumented families. his threats are also against black families. >> greg: harold, you are a g guy. >> dana: [laughs]

>> greg: what can the federal government do in chicago if it still says it's a sanctuary? does that mean anything? >> harold: i don't know. mayor johnson is not going to win this fight. and i do think we had a story, i think earlier, late last week, about governors who were readying to challenge or to fortify their states against what they think would be a tax on their values, which is fine, governors, when president obama was in office, f you think that the border issue is not going or migrants are going to be able to travel across our country without -- without this administration saying you are not going to be here, you are not going to commit crimes and places, if i were a mayor in one of these big cities, i would try to work with this administration. i would share with them where i thought they would be wrong but i certainly wouldn't let this be the opening salvo because we have a challenge in our country and donald trump won this

election. one of the top two reasons he won is because of this issue. >> greg: when you run for mayor of new york city, he will have that chance. we are making an announcement at the end of the show, so stick around. dana, do you think maybe mayor johnson might want to check in with his citizens before making these sweeping denunciations? they are the ones that are affected by illegal immigration. >> dana: every place in america went rightward except for like three counties so that doesn't work and also it takes a lot of call for him to say that donald trump is going to hurt public education when they have the worst records in the country and most black voters did vote for change because one thing they want to school choice and he thinks school choice is going to run education? please, that doesn't make any sense. plus a lot of these neighborhoods have their rec centers taken over by migrants so the kids can't play there. even despite all of this, president trump would probably give him the same deal that he offered the previous lady, whose name was lori lightfoot. remember, he said i'll send

troops, i'll send the military, what do you need? you want the national card to help you with the crime situation? and she said no. how many people lost their lives because she didn't take them u up -- >> harold: i will take chicago mayors for $500 peered. >> dana: you did great. >> greg: judge, the only people who can think like this are the people who can afford to. this is not, no skin off his knees. >> judge jeanine: he has all kinds of security, got a job, doesn't have to worry about anything. here's the scary part. he said trump is a threat is not just a new arrivals and undocumented families, his threats are also against black families. it was black families who went crazy in the summer of 2023 because they didn't want all of their schools and all of there, what was, the rec centers, being used for illegals and their kids not having the ability to have after-school programs and all of the phys ed they were having in

these various areas. but here's what you do. i would go in and i would say, you know, mayor, you don't want to work with me, just get out of the way, okay? i don't need you and your city ordinance that says chicago pd are not allowed to inform i.c.e. i've got my own undercovers. i've got my own, you know, people informants who are going to give me information. we are going to find out exactly who they are so just move your butt out-of-the-way and move your department out of the way they don't want to help us. i'm telling you right now every cop in chicago wants to have i.c.e. every cop has the instinct to get rid of these people who are committing crimes in the first place, and that is what they are going for in the first instance. >> greg: jesse, i think you would agree with me that rec centers are overrated. growing up, was there ever a fun rec center? >> jesse: you mean like the club? >> greg: no --

>> jesse: just kidding. [laughter] listen, record black wages, record black homeownership, record black business start-ups, under donald trump, with low inflation and low prices. you were saying in the g green room, greg, donald trump was actually the first black president peered. >> greg: i did. >> jesse: many people agree with that. it wasn't bill clinton, it was actually donald trump. >> greg: that's true. >> judge jeanine: i thought joe biden. >> jesse: the first black puerto rican truck driver. >> greg: [laughs] all right, that went nowhere. who is the sexiest man alive? he will be shocked and ashamed to find out it's not me. ♪ ♪ customize and save with liberty mutual. customize and sa— (balloon doug pops & deflates) and then i wake up. is limu with you in all your dreams? oh, yeah. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty. ♪ do your dry eyes still feel gritty,

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sexiest man alive? >> judge jeanine: not the sexiest man alive, but something else. i don't think he is sexy at all. i really don't. and i'll tell you something else. it's just the roles that are sexy, it's what he has to do in his fake life, like most actors. and that's it. >> harold: dana, do you have a strong -- >> dana: very sexist and i'm super against it. no, i don't care. he's fine. i subscribed to "people" magazine because one time i was on "fox & friends" years ago filling in and on the card it said make sure not to ask about his divorce. i didn't even know he was married. i didn't know he was getting a divorce and i felt so out of it that i subscribed to "people" magazine. >> harold: i love it. mr. gutfeld? >> greg: i think it is great that "pe people has announced ta trans mail can be the sexiest one alive. >> harold: anyone ever talks about it but he is trans. yes, his trans. i do have a problem with the

title sexiest man alive. it seems redundant. i'm assuming alive is a given. no one is thinking about dead dudes unless you are some kind of pervert like larry kudlow. i'll stop there. >> judge jeanine: narcolepsy. >> harold: jesse, what are your thoughts? you thought you should have been the magazine this year but what are your thoughts -- >> jesse: i said an offhanded comment, didn't really mean it. i don't understand what they mean by sexy. ladies, when you see him, the shirt off, that one shot, get to the shirt off, please. can we, please? >> greg: it's too late -- >> dana: i'm not for the beard. i hate the beard thing. >> judge jeanine: i hate the beard. >> greg: that is what trans men do. >> jesse: i don't think that's a bad looking guy. he's not a bad looking guy. judge says no? sorry, dana. >> dana: he's fine. >> jesse: the judge has more -- >> dana: refined taste question. >> jesse: the judge has more of a sexual appetite.

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>> dana: it's time now for "one more thing." change tone for a second and just report the sad news that ted olson who was an amazing human passed away. he was solicitor general of the united states under george w. bush passed away at the age of 84. extraordinary attorney argued over 60 cases before the supreme court and twice awarded a big award at the u.s. justice department. his late wife barbara olson was a passenger on a plane that hit the pentagon on september 11th. after barbara death he remarried. five great grandchildren and all of us who benefited from his mentorship, god bless ted olson. may he rest in piece. greg? >> greg: all right, tonight we got a great show, kat timpf,

tyrus. let's do this. in your face, harold. election news in the state of vermont kamala harris received 235791 votes. donald trump 19,395 votes. harold ford jr. received three write-in votes. receiving .0008% of the state's vote. not enough to win, harold, in your face. >> dana: in your face, harold. you get to go next. >> harold: another good point. >> jesse: only 3? >> greg: i don't know who came up with that but you are awesome. >> harold: ted olson was a giant. god bless his soul. this guy drove into a pool, stepped on the gas by mistakes. officers jumped in the water crowbarred the sun roof and got him out. god bless them. >> gillian: good evening from washington. i'm gillian turner in for bret baier. breaking tonight president-elect trump's decisive win last week