it is time for the american government to not give people different treatment based on their last name. everybody will get a fair shake from the government going forward. >> dana: the most budget request said promoting dei was the agency's highest goal. starting next year the fcc will end its promotion of dei. tell me more. >> we need to get back to common sense in the government. the idea the federal communications commission lists as a second highest priority promoting dei, there is no place for that. when the transition is complete and when we come in the fcc will end its promotion of dei and focus on our core mission, rural broadband, accelerating permitting for the satellite industry. those are the steps we'll take. promoting national security. it will be a lot of fun. >> dana: enjoy that and thank you for coming on the program. we appreciate it. >> thanks.

>> dana: we're awaiting a crucial decision in the new york criminal case against president-elect donald trump. coming up on the deadline for prosecutors to tell judge merchan how they want to move forward with that case now that trump is heading back to the white house. welcome again to a new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm dana perino. >> bill: good morning. i don't know what he will do. we're about to find out. >> dana: ready. i really don't know. >> bill: bill hemmer, good morning at home. judge merchan has repeatedly delayed key decisions in the case. sentencing is scheduled for one week from now. fox host and former federal prosecutor trey gowdy saying it is time for the judge and prosecution to throw in the towel on this case. >> i have never seen a more pro prosecution judge. you can't sentence him because he hasn't had an evidentiary hearing on presidential immunity. look. the prosecution said there are competing interests. not anymore. the competition is over.

they lost. he needs to end the case. he won. the competition is over. >> bill: that was that and now we bring in our legal panel with andy mccarthy and jonathan turley and kerri urbahn. it could come any moment. andy, what is your best guess if you want to start there? >> i think they are going to delay. i would be surprised if at this point bragg dismissed the case. i agree with the thrust of what trey was saying but i think the difference here compared to some of the other cases is that bragg feels like he didn't lose. he feels like he won the case at trial. so it would be difficult for him to swallow hard and dismiss it at this point. but he really hasn't completely won because important things haven't happened here yet. there hasn't been a sentencing or judgment or conviction and he doesn't have a clear path to get there because even if judge merchan rules his way on immunity, they are looking at a

long appeal. >> dana: jonathan turley, this is a statement from the trump spokesman after the delay last tuesday saying the american people have reelected president trump with an overwhelming mandate to make america great again. it is now clear americans want an immediate end to the weaponization of our justice system, including this case. it might not be all americans certainly but for those that voted for president trump indeed and maybe some democrats also think let's move on. what do you think? >> i think that the general feeling that this has been a three-ring circus. the federal case, the georgia case, and the new york case. the federal cases are shutting down. georgia is going nowhere and yet you have judge merchan here and many people feel he is continuing this long after the attractions were put back in their cages and audience has left. so there would be a great sigh of relief. i don't expect it.

i think the judge will view this as a verdict of -- by this jury that he is not just going to set aside. i don't think that holding this in abeyance for four years is a good option. you cannot have a president whose pending sentencing for four years in my view. the real problem for the court will be any sentence that limits his movement including a sentence of jail time, which i think we all agree is highly unlikely. he could impose a fine and not trigger those conflicts and allow trump then to appeal this case. keep in mind i think the judge really made an unholy mess of this case. there are layers of reversible error and those haven't been reviewed let alone the sentencing itself. >> bill: an interesting point, kerri, regardless what the judge does this is wide open for appeal. how long that takes we don't know.

>> one thing we do know is judge merchan is a political animal. he donated to joe biden in 2020. he said it was 15 or $20 but we've spoken about this before. it is that he did it at all. i clerked for the court of appeals and a state appellate court and shocking to me when i found that out that he donated while trump cases were percolating in his district and could come before him. it gave such a poor appearance. this man does consider politics. i think it would be incredibly politically foolish for him to not take one of the off ramps that has been given to him. whether via immunity, the fact that donald trump was reelected because does juan merchan want to be responsible for republicans winning again in 2028 because we know this lawfare strategy just didn't work. >> dana: andy, what do you expect to hear from the trump team today? >> i think they are in the mode

at this point of encouraging bragg. a lot of talk by people who i think were not informed well about what was happening today about the idea that judge merchan was kind of dragging this out. in fact, remember last week it was bragg's office and the trump team collectively or both were fine with the idea of having a one week postponement. i think the trump team thinks things are trending in their direction. whether this ends up as a dismissal or a long delay, and one way or the other, it is not going to end up in a conviction and sentencing they think. they will probably lay low in the tall grass and see what happens. >> bill: to both of you, professor turley, can a new york side set aside a conviction before the sentencing? >> yeah, there are grounds for

that. to take one of those off ramps. there are off ramps that what kerri referred to. the easiest off ramp or the most obvious is to say the trial itself was undermined by the later supreme court decision on immunity. they did, in fact, use evidence that came out of the white house and evidence that probably would have been barred under that opinion. now normally i would say that that really doesn't represent much of a stumbling block for the court because they had all the other evidence that they used. but the prosecutors made this a closer question by emphasizing that very evidence in their closing argument. they sort of doubled down on it. does that give the court an easy out? well, it could. he could say look, i can't unravel how that evidence affected the jury when the prosecutors were emphasizing it in the trial and at the very end. most of us expected that he

would likely say it was harmless and still say that the jury verdict stand. >> bill: andy, your view? >> i think we have to be mindful of the fact the occasion for this, the reason we're having these proceedings, is because trump has a pending post trial motion to vacate the verdict. so he obviously the judge can grant that for whatever he grants it. i do think what kerri said before adds an interesting element to this because i believe this would have gone one way if trump had not been elected yet but now that he has been elected, i believe the political incentives here especially for merchan are very different. he is not looking anymore to send a signal to the electorate that bell has been rung. can't do anything about that now. >> dana: all right. if you three would stand by. we're awaiting this. it could happen any second and bring it to you as soon as we have it and grateful to have you here. we want to get you to this as

well. right now the head of fema is on capitol hill where lawmakers are finally getting a chance to ask about the response to hurricane helene and milton and disaster readiness as well as claims about partisan bias within the agency against trump supporters. if you had a sign for trump in your yard. senior congressional correspondent chad pergram is live on the hill where the hearing is about to begin. >> good morning. this is the first time that deanne criswell has spoken to lawmakers since the storms, political ones and the weather ones she did not say anything when she arrived today. expect a grilling. some lawmakers have questions about responses to hurricane and milton and probing whether there were politics at play. the question is whether fema employees were instructed to by pass homes with trump signs. >> we want to ask her if this is an isolated incident or pattern.

we've spoken to other fema employees and fear it is a pattern of behavior that happened over the last couple of years. again i will let the director speak for herself and we'll go from there. >> one fema whistleblower was fired, marn'i washington claims fema made her a scapegoat. washington says she just followed orders about visiting pro-trump homes. >> some were registered. some did receive case inquiries and updates. some of them came outside and said i appreciate what you are doing. i would like to participate. and then some were very vocal and firm that they didn't want anything to do with fema and they thought that we were crooks. >> this comes as president biden requested $98 billion to cover the damages of hurricanes helene and milton. it would reload fema's fund for future disasters. >> speaker johnson said getting disaster aid would be a priority

upon his congress's return this month. hope the speaker honors that commitment and works with democrats to get disaster aid done as soon as we can. we should not kick the can down the road nor withhold vital resources. >> some conservatives want off sets to that new spending and hope to attach that to that big spending bill at the end of the year. dana. >> dana: keep an eye on it for us. >> bill: elsewhere on the hill the national institutes of health director now testifying in another committee about the nih's oversight protocols as robert f. kennedy's nomination looms large. alexandria hoff watching that in washington, d.c. what are they saying there? >> current director has spent a year in the job. she will be testifying today. she was tasked with rebuilding trust following covid-19 missteps that. rebuilding will happen but likely not with her at the helm. one name being considered is a

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an appetite to let our adversaries cyberattack us without doing anything to hit back. >> we cannot just keep playing 100% defense on the cyber front. we need to start imposing consequences. clearly our adversaries aren't getting the message that this has to stop. the cyber threat called bolt typhoon coming -- exposed from china. not just taking data or spying, it is actually cyber time bombs in infrastructure. >> the cyber breach exposing -- a foreign adversary espionage. one of our adversaries wanted to gain access to questions lawmakers were asking and what answers they were given. they need to go beyond singling out individual hackers and going after the critical system that our adversaries use to send a

message. >> we're pretty good at hacking networks, too. it is important for the chinese to understand we won't name and shame the hackers and complain about it but we'll go into their networks and give as good as we got. in this real pal they need to see we're capable of inflicting a lot of damage if they continue their behavior. >> we learn the scope of a chinese intelligence hack that infiltrated telecommunications systems. t-mobile was part of that. they were using the hack as a way to spy on some of their targets here in the u.s. bill. >> bill: we'll watch it. could be an interesting change of course as we go. thank you very much. dana. >> dana: vladimir putin with a new warning to the west. the russian leader now lowering the threshold for using nuclear weapons. it comes after moscow says ukraine fired six u.s. made longer range missiles into russia following president biden's policy shift.

dan hoffman, former c.i.a. chief of station with me now. this is what putin signed. working on this for a while but used the the recent action to sign it. he said aggression against the russian federation or its allies on the part of any non-nuclear state with the participation or support of a nuclear state is considered as their joint attack. turn it over to you to put it in context and what we should be thinking about today. >> predictably russian president vladimir putin left out the part about russia launching a brutal invasion of ukraine. the fact that ukraine is justified in defending themselves. the attack long range artillery has a range of 190 miles. won't get close to the kremlin. they got closer than that in a mutiny a couple of years ago. this is designed to strike

russian military targets raining hell on ukraine civilians in hospitals and schools. both sides are trying to gain an advantage right now in anticipation of potentially negotiations that may take place once the trump administration assumes office in january. >> dana: for the biden administration, why now? >> the biden strategy was senseless, this idea that as long as it takes was a strategy as if we had an indefinite amount of time. that's wrong subjecting ukrainians to being killed mercilessly at the hands of russian artillery. more importantly we never gave ukraine what they needed when they needed it. russia suffered hundreds of thousands of casualties, finland and sweden are nato members, europe has been awakened from a post cold war slumber taking on more defense spending burden in their budgets. this is a loss for vladimir

putin. he has failed to topple the government of ukraine and overtake it as he wished. the only thing putin has successfully done is this rhetorical nuclear brinksmanship. he knows president biden goes back to the cuban missile crisis that we'll be at risk of a nuclear war when putin is playing the kgb game and influencing his enemy very effectively. we should have done this on day one and given ukraine the authority to make those decisions themselves. >> dana: but we are where we are and with this action could ukraine be in a position to have a better negotiating position if it comes to that or when president trump takes over? >> i think it potentially could give ukraine a little bit of leverage. will help them in the upcoming battle in kursk with 50,000 russian and now north korean soldiers seeking to recapture territory ukraine had taken.

for this war to end the leverage over russia that matters most. the leverage we have over russia is giving ukraine the military equipment and munitions they need and why the war has dragged on for as long as it has. >> dana: last question on this topic about north korea. that state sent a bunch of people there. maybe they had no idea where they were going or what they were getting themselves into. that was an escalation. >> it was for sure. north korea is going to get a lot out of it. they get a diplomatic and economic lifeline from russia. the russians will be asked by them to give them the tech noll gill they need for their nuclear weapons program and weaponizing nuclear weapons for space technology. not to mention cyberhacking tools they can use against us. if we want to drive a wedge between that alliance between those two ruthless dictators the best way is help ukraine take the fight to the russians and

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if i have to send double the resources to that city we'll do that. title eight united states code 1324iii read about that and don't cross that line. it is a felony to harbor and conceal an illegal alien. read the statute. don't cross that line. >> dana: the boston mayor is saying we'll defy trump's mass deportations. we're waiting on this order from juan merchan. if we get that we'll turn it around. wanted to ask you about the mass deportation issue. president is serious. voters backed him up on it. >> good morning. i think that president-elect trump campaigned on this specifically. if you look at every single rally what did he say? he said we'll deport illegal immigrants. start with the criminals and we're going to get them out, he said, time and time again. it was one of the key platforms and planks of his campaign. so there is no surprise here. tom homan is not sugar coating

it. what it looks like specifically if push comes to shove and some of these mayors and sanctuary cities start to defy that, that becomes a major question mark. there is talk yesterday that there would be a national emergency called and the u.s. military could be used and the president-elect responded true with exclamation points. how that looks and what that feels like i think has yet to be seen. clearly it will be a big part of the early trump administration. >> bill: dana mentioned the boston mayor. listen to what michelle wu had to say here. >> what we can do is make sure we're doing our part to protect our residents in every possible way that we are not cooperating with those efforts that actually threaten the safety of our everyone by causing widespread fear and having large-scale economic impact. >> bill: a couple of things going on here. there has been a strained

relationship, i think, between ice and liberal leaders going back decades. i think that's very real. but the understanding we have through people like tom homan they are going after the criminals first, then going after the suspected terrorists. remember all those on the watch list. that's who they are going after. it may be some time, if at all, before they deport families, etc. they also believe there will be a measure of self-deportation. in other words, those who came here are now disillusioned with america thinking everything was going to be sunshine and rainbows and it is not. we can see them on the sidewalks of new york city every day and they may start to question their own decision here as well. but with regard to the deep blue mayors and the deep blue governors, if they put up defiance there will be -- there could be ugly scenes. i don't know how much thought you have given that, bret. >> bret: i don't think we'll go

from 0 to 60 on day one. there will be a tiered approach to take care of criminals, go after terrorists. they won't kick down doors on all the sunday shows where they said the grandmother will be out in handcuffs. i don't think that is happening right away. there will be some deportation here -- self-deportation. most importantly about closing the border and preventing that flow that's happening right away. again, there is a lot we don't know about the early parts of the trump administration. this is a big part of it. and the resistance from these blue city mayors, maybe some governors, stands in the face of what the american people said they wanted to vote for. >> dana: there is also this hearing today about missing migrant children. alarming situation, bret. >> bret: huge numbers. you heard tom homan talk about that. it's definitely tens of

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>> bill: we're getting a live look now on the house hearing with fema officials. reports of partisan bias in the cleanup after hurricanes helene and milton. florida was hit hard. a lot of attention on western north carolina but florida was hit in the wake of that storm. deanne criswell runs the organization and is on the hill answering to the agency's mistakes right now. florida congressman cory mills. his district on the east side of florida just south of daytona. thank you for your time and i guess you guys were in the line of fire for this. here is what we came across. put up number one. about ten days ago. daily wire puts this out. internal messages obtained by the daily wire show a fema official ordered relief workers in florida not to help houses with trump signs. what you see in the highlighted portion there is best practices,

avoid homes advertising trump. do you think this was exclusive to florida? or are you thinking this happened elsewhere? >> no, i think it absolutely happened elsewhere. i spent roughly 11 days in western north carolina going from asheville to banner el bing, to pensacola, north carolina to bat cave to all the hard hit areas. during that time period, we didn't see fema out there doing anything. this is an area predominantly red. to your point what we witnessed is that areas with 70 to 80% who voted for trump were the ones being discriminated against. i don't think this is necessarily a best practice. i think it is political weaponization which continued to go on since the weaponization of the i.r.s. and before. what we need to get is answers on how it is okay for a political party to start actually using taxpayers funding or withholding taxpayers funding based on your political

affiliations. >> bill: this is a former fema employee basically saying that the gig was up during the biden years. watch. >> reprehensible is they are not being transparent. why is this coming down on me? i'm the person that jotted down the notes from our superiors. it is easy to satisfy it is her name and her writing. make her accountable for it. >> this was florida. did it happen in north carolina and other places? >> georgia as well. >> bill: that was the woman who was fired and she believes she was scapegoated and that's the reason she lost her job. here is the former fema employee on her testimony. >> this happened under the biden administration because previously when i was a fema employee for 12 years i never saw anything like this. or heard anything like this. granted, everyone has their opinions of politics or religion but we didn't let that trickle

down to this level of exposure or unethical orders. >> bill: two questions. where did the order come from? was it local or did it go back to washington, d.c.? and secondly was it really as simple as determining whether or nifty you had a trump sign in your yard or based on a region that was more heavily red than some others? what have you found out? >> i think there are two things. one we also have to look at how close it was to the election period. they didn't want to get necessarily immediate need to areas that voted predominantly trump. they wanted people to be taking care of their houses or the situation they don't have a home or other things going on so it can distract them away and hopefully don't show up to the polls. there are a lot more purposes behind this than not wanting to help trump supporters. how do they involve themselves in election interference to try to suppress elections and also more and more evidence just like we saw with the weaponization of the department of injustice.

his political opponent and looking at the weaponization of fema to get help to those in need to turn out to the polls. >> bill: we would never have known this had employees not gone public. those women showed a lot of guts. >> a lot of guts and courage. this is why whistleblowers are so key. it with as the same thing during the attempted assassination of july 13th. whistleblowers providing evidence. not the f.b.i. and those responsible for providing transparency. >> bill: additional request for more money. $98 billion in disaster relief request and on the list number one is $40 billion in funding for fema's disaster relief fund. is that going to happen now? >> i think it whats to happen. we need to help the recovery efforts in florida, georgia, south carolina, tennessee and western north carolina. you have 40 billion that's going just to disaster relief fund but keep in mind there are 14 other

departments this will be spread out to include the agricultural sector. we need to get the necessary support and help but again what happened to the money that mayorkas said he didn't have and had 22 billion and now all of a signed it's gone? a lot more oversight and auditing. the department of defense just failed their seventh internal audit. there needs to be a lot more accountability when it comes to walking and being good stewards of the taxpayers money. >> bill: you are everywhere. appreciate you coming back. thank you. >> thanks. >> dana: the laken riley murder trial could go to the judge by the end of today. prosecutors get ready to wrap up their case.

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their witness testimony today. they have called 20 witnesses so far and we expect the defense to start laying out their case very soon. today we first heard from a uga police officer about trail cam video testified that camera captured video of a man who prosecutors say the ibarra and laken riley. this was the last time she was seen alive and minutes before she called 911 that morning. prosecutors believe this is ibarra. you can see this man trying to open the door of another college student's apartment before seen walking in the direction where riley was later found. that officer also reviewed riley's cell phone and went through some of her last activity. >> before the 911 call, the text message to her mother. >> what is the the text?

>> good morning, about to go for a run. if you are free to talk. >> 9:58 a.m. >> received a text message from her mother saying you are making me nervous. not answering while you are out running. are you okay? >> the prosecution plans to rest their case today and the defense says that their testimony will only last about half a day so it will likely hear closing arguments after that and then it is the judge's chance to decide what happens to ibarra. send it back to you. >> dana: thank you for the update. we'll stay in touch throughout the day. >> bill: awaiting the crucial decision on trump's new york case in new york. criminal matter. 34 convictions a few months back the end of may. want to go back to jonathan turley and andy mccarthy and bret baier is still with us. professor turley rick andy mccarthy with us now. do we know what he is going to do, andy?

>> well, i think he will freeze things in place at least for a while. i just think this is very complicated and unprecedented and they don't quite know what to do. i completely agree with jonathan the best things that could happen here would be a wholesale rejection of this trial because there is about a million bases to overturn it. but i think to president trump personally it matters whether he is deemed a convicted felon or not and he wouldn't be if he can get the sentencing put off indefinitely and that may be more important to him than us. he is a pretty important player in this. >> dana: what is on your mind, jonathan? >> well, you get the feeling the judge is having that doe in the headlights moment whether he can move right or left or not at all. i don't think not moving option works well for deer or for judges. you are still in the middle of the road. and i think that the best thing

for him to do is to just resolve the case. you can avoid this difficulty by not putting limitations on the president's movements, jail, some type of probation, binding community service. impose a fine or declare being president is a form of community service. there are lots of ways to creatively go through this. one option is to say the prosecutors doubled down on the evidence they used out of the white house in the first term and, you know, this falls into -- you emphasized that in closing arguments and after the immunity decision we might have to toss this case out. you will decide what you want to do about it. >> bill: the political decision is over. that's been decided by the election. i think what andy touched on there is rather relevant here. trump does not want this thing on his record period.

his lawyers are fighting as hard as they can to prevent it. >> yeah. listen, i think this is a sign that you may be heading down that road. this judge may get to the point where he determines one, i will look at the immunity side of this and two, this doesn't seem feasible to hold over his head for four years until after he gets out of the white house. i have agree with jonathan and andy this is a pause that maybe it is upon reflection gets some action pretty soon. >> dana: we can pull up the various status of all of these different types of cases that are -- that are in front of president trump right now or on his plate he would like to clear off some of them. wait a see mode on several of them. on the federal election interference case and the federal classified documents case the d.o.j. is set to dismiss both of those. two of the president's lawyers

in the new york case have been appointed to positions at the justice department. so i'm assuming that new people come on board? >> those could be very important positions. todd blanch will be the deputy attorney general. always an important position. the dad kind of runs the justice department day-to-day but it could be a particularly important position here where the a.g. nominee may run into some pretty serious head winds in the confirmation process. a lot of moving parts. that's a very, very important position. >> bill: yeah. jonathan turley, go ahead and wrap it up for us. it could be that you had so much attention on these four cases. all four now are -- >> it is astonishing to watch the attrition take its toll. the federal cases are as dead as

dill -- dillinger case. the georgia case isn't going anywhere. we're left with manhattan. he doesn't move to toward a resolution any time soon. so you have to look at this and wonder when we'll call it a day. >> dana: you have to also wonder if there would be a bold decision. andy, your point is well taken that this is complex, there are nuances, it is complicated and they are working through it. we appreciate you three being with us today as we waited for the news. we don't have anymore yet. we could in the next hour. >> bill: good to be with you. >> dana: harris faulkner will take you through the next hour. a lot of news on the hill and elsewhere today. >> harris: this is a critically important day. the nation just decided in a