interview you have been trying to get just for some reason hasn't happened yet. i want to interview chinese president xi jinping. really trying hard. big international interviews i think they make a difference. warren asks what is your biggest miss in golf? good question, low dark left is the -- yes the fox guy goes left occasionally. r.g. asks how early is too early to put up a christmas tree? what do you guys think? i think now is the time. >> juan: go for it. >> bret: now is the time prethanksgiving. my tree is up. tomorrow on "special report" will the second trump administration usher in the return of the justice department china initiative. remember, if you can't catch us live set your dvr 3:00 p.m. on the west coast and 6 congressmen on in the east. that's it for this special report. fair, balanced and still unafraid. ingraham angle is now. >> laura: good evening, everyone. i'm laura ingraham ingraham angle from washington. trump continuing to fill out his

cabinet at lightning speed tapping harold lutnick to be treasury secretary. he has been a major backer of trump and friend of his for many years and serving as the co-chair of his transition team. also getting a role in the new administration, none other than dr. mehmet oz. trump has nominated him to be the centers for medicare and medicaid services chief working closely with r.f.k. jr. we're going to bring you more as it comes in tonight. but, first, the revenge of the swamp monsters. yeah. that's the focus of tonight's angle. >> laura: an historic win, a popular vote victory has trump world and hardworking americans they are in a great mood. we all want to believe that the mandate is undeniable. trump and vance? they are hard-charging cabinet nominees? elon musk? and a republican house and senate, how could the goal of transforming government not be

reached? well, before trump has the opportunity to really drain the swamp, the swamp monsters will fight for their natural habitat, no matter who they are up against. >> government agents, scientists. soldiers, secret formulas. none of them belong in this swamp only one thing does. the swamp van. >> well the swampy defenders of the status quo find ways to survive and this includes setting traps for trespassers. while the democrats still have power on capitol hill, they want to hamstring trump by forcing hundreds of billions of dollars in wasteful and even destructive year-end spending. including spending for programs and initiatives that voters don't want or support like they have done so many times before. we have been through. this this is such a scam. and it seems to happen every year. with members anxious to leave

for christmas. they just abdicate their duties to be faithful stewards of our money. courtesy of senator mike lee, here are a few of the ticking time bombs that could be passed in a swamp any bus bill. second we could be locked in for continuing ukraine money. might as well have treasury just printed, what, another 50 billion and throw it in a bonfire on capitol hill. total waste there. and third. fast tracking of afghan nationals into permanent residency status. even when we know kerr tuesday courtesy of theinspector generay weren't properly vetted. new standards and regulations on artificial intelligence that will include dei requirements.

ai with dei. what could go wrong? so, will republicans say no to this madness and help make president trump's first year in office successful? will they stay as long as it takes in december to force the democrats to back down this is what speaker mike johnson warned about in september. >> we have broken the christmas omni. i have no intention of going back to that traditional tradition. there won't be a christmas omnibus. will there be mini buss? we are not going to do any buses, okay? >> laura: beyond that sour push schumer is trying to stymie trump's agenda by ramming through as many liberal judges as possible before the senate changes hand. >> last night i also filed cloture on another nine nominees to serve as district judges across the country. i will now have filed cloture on a total of 12 district court judges since the end of last week. >> we are not done. there are more judges to consider and confirm. we're going to spend the rest of

the week and the reps of this year focused on confirming them. >> laura: he looks like a real winner there reading his notes. while trump urged senate republicans, of course, to step up step and close downed cram down. now the veneer of bipartisan to do it. what's more extremist than pushing war? >> we are prepared to work hard to find bipartisan common ground with our republican colleagues and the incoming administration on any issue whenever and wherever possible. at the same period of time we will push back against far right extremism whenever necessary. >> laura: we know the swamp loves wars because the military industrial complex needs spending to always increase which will happen with biden's move authorizing ukraine to use long range weapons in russia. >> is this being done to box in

the next administration and make it harder to pull back support for ukraine? >> i can't speak to what exactly made this decision final. but i do think it's urgent that we put ukraine on a strong a footing as we can. >> laura: look, the swamp, its allies, they have never cared about what the voters want which includes putting america first. america first was the corner stone of trump's entire campaign. >> the trump victory is far from a mandate. >> president biden won the popular vote by more than 7 million votes in 2020. i didn't hear republicans say okay, let's give biden everything he wants because he has a mandate. no, trump does not have a mandate. he certainly doesn't have the moral high ground. >> laura: this from the party that thought calling trump a fascist was a brilliant campaign strategy. well, here's the bottom line.

we won. they lost. the american people don't want joe biden making any significant policy decisions now. plus, plus we saw the videotape we know he is not the one makes any of these. the poor man can't even stay in a photo shoot at the g-20. we know president trump is going to stand up for himself. and his priority but we also need republicans on both sides of capitol hill doing their part to prevent schumer and jeffries from hamstringing him until is he back in office think the swamp monsters running for cover. beyond the swamp they still want trump to worry about a prison sentence. manhattan d.a. alvin bragg is requesting a stay in trump's sentencing in the hush money case until after he leaves office. yeah. 2029. joining us now jonathan turley,

george washington university law prof and fox news contributor. jonathan, they want this hanging over trump so where is judge merchan ultimately going to land on this issue? >> that's a good question. because the judge does have the ability to dismiss this case there is a number of reasons for that the most obvious the immunity decision from the supreme court and they did use evidence that came out of the white house in the first trump term. and that evidence was highlighted by the prosecutors in their closing argument. so the judge could say, look, i think this trial has -- is difficult one to unravel in terms of what the impact of what this evidence may have had. the one option that he shouldn't consider is the one that bragg is pushing. that we should have this suspended for four years.

consider the ramifications a local judge and prosecutor have basically the president on a leash that, and keep in mind, also, that the governor of that state can pardon the president. now, this is not to say that trump would be yielding to that type of pressure, but it's going to create this appearance of a president who is beholden to local and state officials whenever trump makes a new york decision, they are going to ask, you know, did it factor in that they're holding this card that they are going to play in 2029? and once again, i don't believe that's going to influence president trump. what i'm saying is that this is an unprecedented and dangerous s type of condition. creating a layaway presidency that they are going to redeem him in 2029 and try to put him in jail. this is their fevered dream and

has been since 2015. this has been going on in one form or another for nine years. they wanted some major we 'recourse, orange jump shirts printed up for years. this is something quite different. he was elected president of the united states. the american public, they were very clear that lawfare was not important to them. they reject -- i would say they rejected lawfare against president trump or certainly didn't give it much credence, jonathan. >> i think you are right, laura, rage is addictive. you saw that outside that courthouse when many of us were covering. people dancing in the street with joy over the. it can spend the next four years suggesting is he a president awaiting sentencing. and that's just a thrill to them. it would be much worse for them to go to sentencing because it's

unlikely that he will be sentenced to jail. it's much better to have this sword dangling over his head for four years where they can say look, there goes the president, he's awaiting a sentence it's an option i hope the judge will not take. other courts would not allow this to happen. but that is exactly what alvin bragg is suggesting. >> laura: but trump's lawyers can't leapfrog to the court of appeals yet. can they or can they make some type of motion to the court of appeals to do that, jonathan, in this current posture? >> they can try. but it's very unlikely, laura, that it would succeed. the fact is that the judge here has yet to make a final decision. and so he is. >> laura: it's ridiculous. >> holding on to this case for dear life.

none of these courts can look at, for example, all the errors he made at trial, which are incredible. these are layers of reversible error that haven't even been reviewed yet and we are not even talking about the sentence. >> laura: okay. that's brilliant so merchan could be let's be charitable, could be just insulating himself from an embarrassing series of reversals or even court appellate admonishments given what i saw when i was in that courtroom and what you -- you came on this show i don't know how many times talking about this. so it actually helps him and the left thinks it hurts trump negotiating with world leaders? oh, you are the guy awaiting sentencing. you see why this is the lifeblood for the left. >> no, that's right. i mean, the real preference here is to keep the lawfare going by allowing this to be suspended, to leave the president in this suspended conditional state. we cannot have a layaway president. we need a president in this

country. and if merchan is not going to bring this circus to an end, then we are going to have to -- the country is going to have to seek that elsewhere. hopefully higher courts will prevail. but i'm still hoping, again, that judge merchan will recognize that this is becoming absurd and it's becoming dangerous. >> laura: it's bad for the entire legal process. jonathan, as always, thank you for the insights. >> laura: new survey telling us what we kind of already know, the moronic woke terms that the left wing loons force fed us for years especially our kids and schools and colleges are not popular. people don't want to use them. but confirming that house democrats have learned nothing after getting she lacked on november 5th election. they are going full steam ahead for biological men to use women's restrooms. the congresswoman nancy mace is trying to put a stop to it. she introduced a new resolution requiring members and staffers to use the bathroom that

correspondence with his or her biological sex. i can't even believe this has to be a thing. the move comes as the first trans member of congress sarah mcbride is set to take office. >> bullying a member of congress this what s. what we are doing? this is the lesson we have drawn from the election in november? this is your priority that you want to bully a member of congress as opposed to welcoming her to join this body? >> of course, as always legacy media helping frame the nice people versus the mean people. >> speaker johnson wants to treats every new member with the words dignity and respect. forcing this congress person to go into a male restroom is that dignity and respect? >> forcing women to share private spaces with men is not dignity and not respect. >> laura: joining me now nancy

mace congresswoman great to see you. as far as dignity and respect go, i am wondering, congresswoman. how have you been treated after introducing this resolution? >> very interesting question. so the height of hypocrisy. the height of gaslighting. they are threatening to kill me now because i as a woman am standing up to protect other women from men being in our private spaces. our restrooms, bathrooms, locker rooms, changing rooms, you name it. so now they are threatening to kill me over. this i'm being bullied online but what they forget is that, laura, i'm the first woman to graduate from the citadel, military college of south carolina. i will not be bullied into silence. i will not back down. and, in fact, i'm going to double down on this. i'm going to file even more legislation to protect women beyond the capitol. across every state in the nation. because the simple question is do women have rights? or not? it's a very simple question. >> laura: now, represent elect sarah mcbride responded saying this is blatant attempt from far

right wing extremist to distract from the fact they have no real solutions what americans are facing we should be focused on bringing down the cost of housing, child care and not manufacturing culture wars. your response? >> this is not manufactured. this is a person who has threatened to come into women's private spaces. i'm a survivor rape, sexual violence and abuse. i know how deeply vulnerable women are in places where we feel we have eight radio to privacy. this is not okay. if you are a biological man, you are born a man, use the men's restroom. you don't invade our privacy. you don't come into women's private spaces. this is not a thing. i will die on this hill. it will not happen on my watch. this is a fight worth fighting for. i'm going to fight to protect every woman in congress, every staffer, every employees and every woman and girl across the country. they didn't learn anything from november two weeks ago. women's issues were on the ballot and conservatives are now feminists. it's wild, it's insane that this is even up for debate. it's not up for debate.

>> laura: i'm sorry, one thing i know the left will say in response to what you just said is well, it's horrific that you were subjected to any abuse or assault any of it, but are you intimating that this new congressman elect would somehow assault you in the bathroom? that would be the argument? >> the idea of a man walking into a locker room where i'm changing is actually it feels like assault. i'm a victim. i have actually -- i have ptsd from the trauma i have endured at the hands of a man. i'm going to stand in the way of any guy who wants to come into our spaces and guess what? sarah mcbride doesn't get a say in this. i'm not going to -- i'm not going to succumb or be silenced by bullies online or the radical left. they lost, they lost big. i'm going to push back harder than ever before. >> laura: congresswoman, thank you so much for telling us your story. and why are democrats protecting illegals instead of american citizens. more on that, next. ♪

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immigrants are criminals and we will see home-to-home raids by immigration agents, step one, find out what donald trump is going to do. step 2, predict where he is going to be violating the u.s. laws and people's fund mental civil rights in order to ram a million people a year through the deportation system. >> of course, the aclu is filing a lawsuit because that's what it does to get the information on how trump plans to deport americans. -- illegal immigrants which americans support by the way. >> of course the aclu seems most concern about protecting the rights of people like jose ibarra on trial tore brutally murdering georgia nursing student laken riley. chris, so the aclu is trying to get their hands on these records. on how ice air. we will call it ice air

immigrations custom enforcement air operations could be expanded to carry out deportations. so, assuming they get that information which trump is not even in office yet, what legal road blocks do you think they can utilityize to slow down and even stop these deportation flights. >> i think there is a distinction between the ones they can try and the ones that can succeed. they are going to try to throw everything at the wall to see what sticks. we saw that already in the first trump administration. basically every policy initiative the administration rolled out was challenged in court. i think the good thing is trump 2.0 knows how to deal with that and knows how to get things up through the legal process a lot more quickly to get resolution. it's not just the aclu. it's also democratic governors and mayors have basically announced a campaign of massive resistance to federal attempts

to enforce immigration law, which of course, is one of the core responsibilities of the federal government. states and localities, much less the aclu don't have the responsibility over immigration matters that is a federal matter. you can't have states and localities just thumg their nose at federal law. >> laura: the trump administration will cite the fact that sanctuary cities, chris, freed 22,000 criminal aliens from custody rather than working with ice which they did deport some people in the biden administration, so we have criminals roaming free on our streets a lot. those people have to be removed and removed expeditiously. meanwhile michelle wu of boston says no, no. don't look to us for help. watch. this elections have consequences

and the federal government is responsible for a certain set of actions. make sure we are protecting our residents in every possible way. we are not cooperating with those efforts that actually threaten the safety of everyone by causing widespread fear and having large scale economic intoxicate. >> laura: do you notice, chris, she said residents. she didn't say american citizens. or legal residents. she said residents. >> you are so right, laura. yes. you are so right. they always have this verbal slight of hand where they say i'm going to protect residents or i'm going to protect immigrants. no, no, no, no. nobody is talking about american citizens or people who have lawfully here. we are talking about illegal aliens, people who are here illegally so every time they talk about immigrants residents or our people, that is a vernal slight of hand issue. they should be forced to defend what they are actually doing,

which is just trying to defend people who are here illegally to stay here illegally. and you raised an excellent point i think a lot of people would agree that the first priority is to get the criminals, people who are here who have committed crimes here to deport them. but, you know, in our country, state and local police and law enforcement officers are at the front lines we don't have much of a federal police force. so, if these jurisdictions failed to cooperate, that is very problematic and i think people should call out these politicians on that. >> laura: absolutely. chris. before we let did you go real quickly. we hit this issue of judge merchan in new york holding on to this trump sentencing, not ruling one way or another when the sentencing take place. alvin bragg moved to maybe postpone it. but they are holding on to this sentencing of trump on the

federal level i'm not sure what can be done about this. how deleterious is that to our executive branch and future president if this kind of nonsense can continue. >> it is terrible, laura. look, let's cut to the chase. this case is dead it. should never have been brought. it was a travesty to begin with. now, it is dead. any attempt by judge merchan and the prosecutors to keep it alive somehow for four years. >> laura: unbleeble. >> keep waiving it like a bloody shirt whenever they feel like it is outrageous. >> laura: 2029. hold it until 2029 they want to keep lawfare going from 2015 to 2029. chris, i had to ask you about that. chris, couldn't stay on one topic. thank you very much. biden's fema has americans living in tents, still. the details and shocking video as illegal immigrants are living in hotels, yeah, that's next.

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>> laura: do you notice that we kind of just stopped hearing about the suffering of our fellow americans in north carolina? but we have seen scenes of tent villages when cold and wet weather is on the way. well, congress wants answers so fema administrator deanne chris well was in the hot seat today over the development's response to both hurricane helene and milton. and as to one of the most raging elements of this nightmare of whether fema instructed its staffers to skip over trump supporters' homes? >> we have investigated this incident and it is still under investigation. we are working with the inspector general to determine whether or not this is broader than this. the evidence i have seen so favor shows this was isolated incident and it has not gone beyond what this one employee

did. >> did you talk to the 13 people on this best practices text message? >> the office of professional responsibility has taken this and they are following appropriate protocols. >> how about you personally? have you talked to any of these 13 people. >> i have not talked to them. >> you have not. >> i have an entire team that focuses on this investigation. >> laura: more government waste. why doesn't she pick up the phone? january 20th cannot come soon enough. joining me congressman james comer chair of the house oversight committee. congressman, we seem to get a lot of info from inspector general reports eventually but it takes a long time. is that enough here from what we heard from her? >> no. it's not enough. and jim jordan questioned her very appropriately and she admitted that she hasn't talked to a single person involved in this incident. and she said, too, under oath that, she believed this was an isolated incident. we had another whistleblower come forward during the middle of the testimony, to communicate with our lawyers to say that a similar incident happened to

them in georgia where a fema worker told the people the american citizens you need to get rid of those trump signs in your yard or nobody is going to help you with fema. now we have had greg steube just communicated with me just minutes ago and said that he had over 10 people in his district in florida that had said they were discriminated against because they had trump signs in their yard. this is a pattern i never believed that woman sent text message if she wasn't confident that's how the government agency operated. they weren't going to help people that supported donald trump. >> laura: what do you think if it were a republican administration fema skipped over houses with trans flags flying? what do you think the democrats would say? >> i think it would be on the front page of every newspaper in america. >> laura: as it should be. >> i think democrats would be trying to burn the capitol down

they would be so outraged. again this is something we have seen in a lot of government agencies. not just fema. we have seen it with the department of justice. we have seen it with the irs. with the fbi. the biden-harris administration has created a culture of discrimination against conservatives. they haven't just censored conservative speech, they have essentially censored government services from conservatives. >> laura: weaponized in a different way. not lawfare weaponization but it's weaponization nonetheless. congressman, we're going to stay on this. thank you. and with the wet and cold weather coming. let's check in on the helene victims in north carolina. >> the main road swannanoa you can see tents up over here. okay. there are tents everywhere in swannanoa. if anyone is telling you like there is no tents. fema is doing its job. just tell them to drive down the main road in swannanoa, north carolina. the main one. okay? you'll see them everywhere.

they are tents. they are everywhere. these people need help. >> laura: joining me now matt vanswol and durham north carolina couple bringing attention to tent cities. matt, this is both heart breaking and infuriating especially when we are often covering the crime and disturbances outside of migrant hotels in manhattan that cost the city millions, actually probably billions at this point explain what life is like for these people living in swannanoa area of north carolina? >> well, i mean, it's absolutely horrific there should be zero american citizens living in tents in north carolina right now. there are plenty of fema trailers available for these citizens. they are sitting maybe 15 miles away. they are nice and heated and operated by fema workers. i put out a post saying you

should get out of those and hand them to the people in swannanoa because it's getting cold outside in friday. hand them over and do the paperwork later. >> laura: we reached out to fema, guys. they did not provide us with an official statement. i guess we don't count. they sent us a daily facts sheet on their north carolina relief efforts. they have approved 243 million to more than 133,000 households. sounds like a lot. and individuals beginning their recovery. more than 252 million for community recovery and 4800 households checked into sheltering hotels and motels. could it be, aaron, that people are choosing as the inclement weather is coming to live in these tents? >> no they are basically given a choice. we were given a choice few days after we got out of asheville and came back. we got a letter from fema with a voucher to a hotel in tennessee. far away from everyone who

needed us here we came back twice. got denied twice. we appealed. getting a generator take care. one needed cpap machine other didn't have electricity of any kind including cook plates. everyone's circumstances incredibly different. so they have to figure out a way to help themselves. because fema one of our friends was offered $9,000 after her entire home was destroyed, three bedroom house. so the person that actually helped her the most was a church, a church donated. >> laura: yeah, that's the usual way it goes. the faith community steps up. but you talk to somebody who still hadn't gotten any financial assistance, correct? i'm sorry the angle did.

i'm sorry, we don't have it. okay. all right. we got -- sorry, i'm getting too much information while i'm trying to talk to you. so the point here is that i think americans see lots of people around the world need our help. i get it. when we are putting out $200 billion to ukraine and yet we have many americans who are still not in a really safe, warm shelter that seems criminal but they are running out of money. we have seen articles running out of money at fema. no money. >> that's the massive pivot and i wish -- i don't wish this upon anyone. but the big pivot was the matt and aaron, before this were pro-go help other countries, make sure they are taken care of. make sure ukraine has weapons. and now we realize wow, this is affected people, you know that, were already impoverished to

people in multi million dollars losses. once had land now the land is in the river. this has effected everyone. getting fellowship nonprofit and churches. >> that's it. >> pretty much end of list. the amount of fema help that we can count, i mean, what's the highest grant? $42,000. would that do much even a house 150,000? that's nothing. >> still have to pay a mortgage and find another place to live. >> our friends are paying mortgages on homes that don't exist. like how is that? >> laura: matt and erin, you are bringing information to light that most americans that don't know about or or the media has kind of moved on and forgotten about. but this is why president trump campaigned on america first. this is one of the examples. and, again, everybody is different, all victimization of hurricanes are not the same. >> this cannot stand. this cannot continue. january 20th cannot come soon

enough. fema needs a total redo. matt and erin, we will stay on this story. thank you. and just ahead, russia threatens to use nukes after biden gives ukraine long range missiles. ♪

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lawyer the biden administration always brags about firsts. the first female. this the first lgbtq+ that. but now another first they are responsible for. ukraine launched u.s.-made missiles on russia for the first time. >> it is a signal that they want to escalate the conflict and it is impossible to use these high tech missiles without the americans. putin has said this many times. >> laura: putin warned us that getting us deeply involved would be considered an act of war and today, after that attack, he lowered russia's threshold for the use of nuclear weapons. joining me now elbridge colby former defense secretary. right? should biden at the end of his term putting risk and but the trump administration and in this position. actually not laura, great to be

with you. the american people delivered resounding mandate go in a different direction and end the war. he seems to be yund mining here. even more. the administration basically admitting in the "new york times" that the step is unlikely to materially change the military situation neither the ukrainians nor we have sufficient weapons of this type. the russians are continuing to move forward. the deputy national security adviser admitted down in brazil yesterday situation is extremely difficult and the russian also always up the ante. perfect example of the biden symbolism over effectiveness. as lavrov pointed out, putin himself has made significant threats. the nuclear thing is very serious. i would just stress that it's a lot more on the table, mortal regulation with the houthis, iran, china, et cetera. it's digging us deeper into the

hole. >> laura: unbelievable. >> without any sort of progress. >> laura: it's so terrifying given the fact that this man can't even find his way into a g-20 photo shoot and getting us deeper involved in this. by the way elbridge, this just in from "the washington post," biden has now offered the provision of antipersonnel, i love that, and personnel landmines to ukraine. what? >> they are trying to pull off all the restrictions they had held for the last two and a half years in this sort of last gasp of while they still have the policy. maybe trying to tie president trump's hands. and it's not going to work. the russians have mobilized their society. they have mobilized their military. they are moving forward, unfortunately. even more, laura and you and i have talked -- don't want to go back too much. over the last couple of years we predicted this kind of thing would happen. >> we did. >> other thing happen today pacific command admitted weapons

stockpiles are very depleted patriot defense missiles. things you and i have been saying for several years. here is something i think is so important to stress. biden and harris are leaving president trump and vice president vance in a deep, deep hole. people have to calibrate compensations accordingly. if we are going to avoid this iceberg you are going to make a 90-degree turn people are going to fall out of the bunks. it's going to be dangerous. people have to be realistic. we are in a bad world because of our leadership. >> laura: elbridge, this is terrifying you did predict most of this two years ago or three years ago. thank you very much. coming up, what trump being add today's spacex launch tells us about the future of american innovation especially over the next four years.t ♪ it must be delicious. delectables lickable treat. ♪

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>> prepare for liftoff. >> for, three, to, one! [cheering and applause]

[cheering and applause] >> laura: you can see ronny jackson and bill haggerty behind president trump. of course he went to the site of the space launch today and it's really what happens when you unleash the power of ingenuity and entrepreneurship under america first leadership. it is only going to get better. and it is a stark contrast to our current space leadership courtesy of the national space council chairwoman. >> i just love the idea of exploring the unknown. and there's other things we have just not figured out or discovered yet. >> we will learn so much as we increasingly, i think, are curious and interested in the potential for the discoveries and the work we can do in space.

>> laura: i didn't even know she was the actual space council chairwoman until just this moment. joining me now, a retired nasa and -- astronaut. what does today's test launch tell us? what was so special about this? >> i think there are several things. first of all, having the president-elect there was showing that he's got interest and he's got skin in the game or a dog on the hunt and i think that's important to the american people to know that their incoming president supports the space program. the lawn is all about innovation, he is all about making things happen as quickly as he possibly can. i think that is also something that can probably be good for our country. i think that sometimes nasa is a little slow and a little bureaucratic without they proceed so i am anxious to see what happens in the next several years. >> laura: now it was reported, i think, that this was the heaviest payload to be brought

up up to space, is that correct? >> i know that his rocket is the biggest one ever built so far and it is bigger than the statue of liberty. and to lift all of that mass into space is absolutely incredible. so he is taking steps way faster than we ever did in the apollo program. to do things like this, it is very exciting time for anyone. >> laura: you were an astronaut from 98 until 2013, something like that. but is it like for americans watching tonight, and they see the pictures, what is it like? you must dream about it. >> i want to go back. i watch all of this going on and i wish i was back in that world. because it is very exciting, it is very challenging, it is very fun. and to think about us becoming a multi-planetary species as mr. musk likes to say. i worked on the space station for five months and i loved every minute of it.

>> laura: and i think the great thing about all of this is that merit really rules the day. it's about who can do the best job, it doesn't matter where you come from, what colour your skin, whether man or woman, who is the best of the best? and i think that is what president trump is really encouraging and i think that is what musk and his hiring for spacex has relayed demonstrated. merit rules. >> i think i agree. it is important to understand that these are tough jobs. these are technical jobs that require people to not make mistakes. so you need to have the best possible people doing that work. i hashtag almost every day, never been against elon musk and so far he has proven me right. >> laura: awesome, it's so great to have you on tonight, especially tonight. that's it for us tonight. make sure to follow me on social media. i have some new posts up from this morning, check it out, jesse is up next.