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>> i'm judge jeanine with a jessica tarlov, jesse watters, sandra smith and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is of the five. >> ♪ ♪ and sanctuary city leaders are gearing up to resist mastery petition forces justice finally comes fo r the illegal immigrant monster who brutally murdered a nursing student.judg the judge in georgia taking less than 20 minutes to find them guilty of murder sentencing the venezuelan national who shouldnt never have been in the country in the first place to the maximum of life in prison without parole. they sat motionless in courtth listening to thee heartbreaking victim impact statements and impact statements. >> if you have the abilityf tao bring her back out of all this i

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♪ ♪ >> sandra: a victory for nancy mace after she introduced a bill to keep transgender women out of the ladies bathroom on capitol hill. >> mike johnson announcing that facilities in the capitol and house office buildings are reserved for individuals of their biological sex. it's in response to the controversy over sarah mcbride, the incoming first transgender woman member of congress. take pride promises to follow johnson's rules and use the men's bathroom. now mace is going a step further, introducing another bill to expand the bathroom man to all federal properties and here is her reason why. >> i'm not going to stand for a man, you know, someone with a penis in the women's locker room is not okay and i'm a victim of

abuse myself, i am a rape survivor, i have ptsd from the abuse i suffered at the hands of a man, and i know how vulnerable women and girls are in private spaces, so i'm absolutely 100% going to stand in the way of any man who wants to be in a woman's restroom, in our locker rooms, in our changing rooms. >> sandra: and while that battle takes place, the democratic party is still fighting over how to talk about transgender athletes in women's sports, and issue many in the party believe cost them the election. but some don't see what the big deal really is. >> there are vanishingly few trans girls competing in high schools anywhere, even if there were more, trans kids like all kids vary in applicability and there's no evidence they pose any threat to safety or fairness. it is very weird for you to be so focused on the subject. >> there are just incredibly few examples of transgender girls playing in these sports. and when we see those examples, there isn't evidence that these kids are a threat to safety or fairness. >> sandra: okay, greg, you

seem hot on this. >> jessica: is interesting watching oliver and jen psaki because you get a clean of how e media works. they have all followed the same torture justifications. it's not really happening. but it is, and why should you care if it is? okay, it's happening, it is good thing, but you are worse because you care about it. it's a perfect illustration of the echo system. oliver got his points from an activist blog, and then psaki, just listen, she almost did it literally what oliver did, came out two days later, didn't do any research, didn't do any thinking about it. no steel manning, no consideration, or real empathy. it is about the members of the member, that's what i say. oliver has a british accent. which fools the mid wits at hbo into thinking he is thoughtful but he misses the clearest, obvious to points that americans get: and there is a system based on self reporting, it is

impossible to prevent the corruption of the system, hence the infiltration of men in women's safe spaces. unhealthy, somehow mentally unstable men, and they claim it only affects a small percentage of trans. than why are we forced to change entire systems if it's a small percentage, including title ix, buildings and bathrooms, it's about actually compelling society to adhere to a tiny percentage, and within that tiny percentage are a lot of men who are basically cosplaying as women as a form of perversion, perversion. the media has full compassion while denying real compassion to the families who are losing relationships to their children and losing children entirely to an activist-driven cult. we are going to look back at this era and go this is embarrassing, if anyone remembers oliver or psaki, they will be seen as those who cheered brutality and insanity. >> sandra: jessica, why is it that these democrats on capitol hill are so enraged that

women lawmakers don't want men in their bathrooms? what is this? >> jessica: there enraged by nancy mace's attention to her, which is going really well, and she's been doing this for years, remember she showed up at a prayer breakfast and said sorry i was late, i was doing it, which is definitely the kind of crowd you should be talking about -- >> greg: are you shaming? >> jessica: you ask me that all the time, and this time, yes, i am. sarah mcbride is a new member of congress and has been nothing but magnanimous about this situation because this bill was created just to shame her. and to float wild conspiracies. shown no evidence anyone has felt uncomfortable in a bathroom at capitol hill because there was a trans woman in the bathroom. if anybody has been attacked. she wants to bully, she wants to demean, and she wants to raise false flags about an issue. think back to the north carolina bathroom bill which completely exploded in republican spaces. this is not what they are

talking about. they don't think that your kid is going to go to school and come home with different. they do think a women's sports issue is a real problem, and what john oliver says we have different abilities, at the competitive level, that's the point. lia thomas was winning as a woman and was losing as a man. and when you're competing this isn't about 5-year-olds, this is about people who are in college, professional athletes. but this bill, it's so nasty, and it's for no reason, and good on sarah mcbride and good on the democratic caucus for standing up for her because it's so lame -- >> greg: false compassion -- >> jessica: no, it's really -- would you ever notice, if sarah mcbride walked into the room, would you -- >> greg: that's not the point. what you are doing, you've got to step back. you are talking about a system that changes for a tiny percentage of people. you are asking a lot of people they have every right to say -- >> jessica: why didn't you ever say anything before

sarah mcbride existed? >> judge jeanine: because she is confronted by the situation in congress. >> jessica: she was not afraid of sarah mcbride. >> judge jeanine: didn't you learn that the american people don't want this? that the majority of people don't want to be kowtowing to a .01% of people who want to enter into my bathroom? i don't want a guy who is dressed as a woman who thinks he's a woman, whether he has his thing or not, i don't want him in my bathroom. i don't want to think about him. i don't want to wash my hands near him. i don't want him in there. you know what? get your own freaking bathroom. go in your own -- wait a minute, waiting minute. all members of congress -- >> jessica: she said i'll -- >> judge jeanine: good for nancy mace. nancy mace is doubling down and saying on all federal properties. and by the way, people like seth moulton, we were giving him so much credit. why did he wait until after the election to talk about the fact,

about men in girls sports? why did he wait? because they don't have the chutzpah. now that they lost, you better learn why you lost. you claim to be so tolerant. you are not tolerant at all. you have to be tolerant of the majority and they have to work their way around the majority. they're not equal to everybody else in terms of title ix. they are not a specific category, so fight in your own category and go to the bathroom in your own category. >> sandra: jesse, nancy mace went further to say this is about real women and women's rights. the far left, she says, they want to erase women and women's rights. >> jesse: i mean, jessica, i love you, but you are saying mace is on attention to her? mace? this is the first week of congress. there is missiles flying into russia that we made. there is illegal aliens murdering people. and we are talking about this one person in congress, what bathroom -- >> jessica: that's because of nancy mace.

>> jesse: this woman wants attention. and his name is tim. a deep dive. it was tim mcbride before it was sarah. art major at american university. married a man. four days later he died of oral cancer, that is cancer of the mouth. worked for human rights watch, which is probably the one organization that wants to tear western civilization down, pillar by pillar. you know who's congresswoman, man, she is? joe biden's. congrats, delaware. so she comes in. she has her own private bathro bathroom, and they have unisex bathrooms at the capital, and she wants to go in someone else's bathroom -- >> jessica: she doesn't. >> jesse: she doesn't want attention? this is all about attention. even fetterman offered to have her use his bathroom. >> jessica: in all of your research, did you happen to read her statement where she said i will respect the rules and i'm just here to do the work of the delaware he ends. >> jesse: why does she say that it day one? >> jessica: it's because nancy mace made us think about this,

not because of sarah mcbride. >> greg: there weren't any rules, that was the problem. >> judge jeanine: i agree. >> sandra: thank you for the conversation. >> greg: thank you for leading it, sandra, you did such a good job. >> sandra: thank you so much, greg. thanks all around. just ahead, bill clinton giving a devastating assessment on why his party lost but will dems listen? greg, i love your sweater. >> greg: thank you. ♪ ♪

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great. but it's pretty hard if you are out there in the middle of the country, and you are working hard, and you've got to her three kids, and you have to watch every penny you make. there's a lot of identity conflicts, racing through our society now, through our world, and these culture wars topics still have enormous salience, and we democrats have to learn to talk to people. >> jesse: and bill clinton, ever the expert on women, claims america is ready for a female president, but there's a catch. >> i think it would probably be easier for a conservative republican woman to win. >> then a democrat woman? >> because, i mean, that's what maggie thatcher did. but i still think we'll have a woman, female president, pretty soon. >> jesse: he didn't really explain why. he just said margaret thatcher. why do you think bill clinton doesn't think we're going to have a female democrat

president? >> judge jeanine: i think because he realizes where the country is right now, because he saw what happened in this election. he knows that the country is more right than it was when he was president. and maggie thatcher was a tough, straight talking, conservative woman, friend, obviously, if you remember, of ronald reagan. i just think that conservative women don't focus on nonsense. i think they are just smarter. in your face, mark cuban, okay? but even more than that, i think when he was stumping for kamala, clinton, he said things now, you can say he slipped because he's older, but what he said was basically, you know, they weren't venting people, which is why laken riley was killed. he basically said the economy was better under trump, recognizing that it wasn't that good under biden-harris. and he was, i think he was very

straightforward. he knew when he was president he had to change things. that he listened. that the democrats today are not listening. i have to give him credit. i think he's right. i think the first woman president will be a conservative. >> jesse: what do you think, greg? >> greg: i think what he was saying, kind of like what the judge said, the gender thing is not important, it's about the other part that describes a conservative. if anybody liberal right now is in trouble, because they went too far left. but i like what he said when he said we need to talk to people. because i think he realizes, it's probably from being among democrats and younger ones, really young ones, that they talk at people, or they are talking at each other. they lack the persuasive skills, and they alienate people. they drive them away. perhaps because maybe their ideas aren't good. we know that. but they are also -- they are not being taught how to win friends and influence people. instead they are finding value in alienating and losing

friends. there is a reason why identity politics fail. it wasn't about -- it wasn't about other people. it was about you and the secret to success in life, anyone who has read "win back friends and influence people," you win by ag about other people. what is interesting in their lives. people love it when you ask them about their lives. they are not interested in your pronouns. they are not interested in your identity. and that cuts people off. the other thing, dems love to say we need to have a conversation, but that is usually to get out of the current one. the kryptonite has always been a follow-up question. once they learn how to deal with a follow-up question, they will do a lot better but the issues don't allow that. >> jesse: i've noticed, after reading that book, women especially like it when you ask them about themselves. it gives you a great opportunity to just kind of sit back and just think about other things. once in a while, there is a moment, then ask another question. >> greg: ask her if she agrees with you.

>> jesse: do you agree? >> sandra: did you say something, jesse? there is one thing women don't like. they don't like you trying to talk over their heads or talk down to them, whatever it is -- >> jesse: what do you mean by talking over their heads? >> sandra: bill clinton said democrats need to stop asserting the economy is great, they did it all through the election cycle and it killed them. there was a moment charlie before election day when joe scarborough on his morning show said, i couldn't believe, my buddy called, $3 for butter? his wife taps him, $7. women know the price of food. they do most of the grocery shopping. i know a lot of men do, too, and they don't appreciate people keep telling them the economy is great when prices are up 20%-25%. this is one of the biggest problems leading up to election day. it's the economy, stupid. so when they kept telling everybody every thing was great, women at home or going, wait, what? i just got back from the grocery store and my normal $100 grocery thing was 100 and

whatever. what's 20% -- >> jesse: you are on -- i don't know. >> sandra: $20. >> jesse: all of this wisdom from slick willie, where was this wisdom a year ago, two years ago, when everyone was dealing with these high prices? >> jessica: well, the problem is that bill clinton, because he is a bit of a walking #metoo violation gets ignored by a lot of people, and frankly had the best advice in 2016 for hillary's team and they didn't take it, and he had the best advice for kamala's team, and they didn't take it. so in 26 teen he was like hillary hasn't been to wisconsin, guys. we need to win wisconsin. we lose. this time around, he went to the team, so says the autopsy reporting after the election, he said the charlemagne add is resonating with people. we have to say something. and i also pointed out that it wasn't just an ad about trans people, it was an economic add because the argument was we'll spend money on this special interest group, but we will not spend money on you, the

general american taxpayer. and they didn't want to say anything about it. and if we live in an endless cycle of recycling people that have run past campaigns, and listen, what the obama team was able to pull off his incredible. i think david plus and stephanie cutter are amazing. but why wouldn't you listen to a guy who won to elections, who is beloved by people, have you watched him walk a rope line? i mean, people are beside themselves that they are so excited to meet him and to get to spend time with him, and he has decent advice. >> jesse: you said the reason why is because he was #metooed. >> jessica: he wasn't -- >> jesse: you just said people don't listen to him because he was #metooed. even people that are #metoo deserve to be listened to peer peered. >> jessica: i'm glad we had that talk. ahead, trump is building his celebrity cabinet, tapping linda mcmahon and doctor's. ♪ ♪

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peered medicare and medicaid services, dr. oz. interesting picks, jesse. i have an issue with dr. oz. he is one of the greatest heart surgeons on the planet before he turned to tv. you know, we talked about this in the b block. he had, i feel, a very harmful stance on surgeries for kids in the transworld -- >> jesse: oh, he was pro kid -- >> greg: he since backed off saying there is no science behind it, but i think he went forward with this stuff on his show because visually it was appealing. and i don't know whether -- i have mixed feelings about it because i think he is a successful guy, smart guy, everything, but that is one thing i would ask about. >> jesse: i would ask about that, too. i wouldn't expect him to do the opposite of what trump's agenda is. it's not like he's going to go haywire and start cutting kids up at the agency. this is something, trust this

guy, he's going to do a good job, he's great on television -- and that's what a lot of these guys are. guys you can trust that are good on tv. it's not like you are hiring the offensive coordinator for the jets. i'm putting you in there because i like you and you are good on tv. you are going to get wiped out by the chargers week one, probably run up the score to 80-0, you don't know anything about football. it doesn't matter, though. this is a federal bureaucracy. it runs itself. they are there to cut the waste and not let people sue the bejesus out of trump personally. >> greg: so jessica, should i not be concerned that he is cutting the budget, not cutting kids, and just kind of like that was in the past -- i'm honestly grappling with this. this is a huge issue for me. >> jessica: i look forward to the questions about it. but no, we shouldn't just hope that we get really good tv communicators to be in charge of some departments that have 3 million people in them. it's not a joke. and i did not know about the trans surgery position, but

dr. oz has backed medical treatments that do not work, and spoken out against clinical trials disproven his stance on hydroxychloroquine. also what he did for diet culture is disgusting. parroting the idea that you should take pregnancy hormones and live on a 500 calories a day diet for weight loss. but probably most -- >> greg: there's a problem with that? >> jessica: there is. probably most damaging to the apparatus that he will be in charge of, cms, is he doesn't really care that much about medicare. so he has supported medicare advantage, which is run by commercial insurers, and even in his statement about this -- are you snoozing medicare? call your mom. >> jesse: medicare advantage on "the five," you are done. >> greg: kai get the judge in? i understand what you are saying but -- >> jessica: but everyone loves

medicare. >> greg: we haven't brought her up. >> judge jeanine: i love linda mcmahon. let me tell you something. don't look at me, jessica. i have that eye on the side of my head. let me tell you something. this woman knows a lot about education. she has been on the board of trustees for colleges, she's on the connecticut board of education, she's got all the requirements. she knows right now there are huge problems with our students in our education system as a result of progressive democrats. the unions that are running these schools, our kids being so far behind kids in other countries, student loans, kids are starting to rely on, they can't get a student loan. there is nothing merit-based anymore. i don't want to hear about drag queen story hour, gender identity, or a book that is being show to kids of two guys having oral sex with each other. linda is a fierce advocate of parental rights. i'm telling this story, i don't care. we don't need schools on the progressive agenda, and linda is going to put an end to it.

i think she's fantastic. she could get in the ring and fight. >> greg: what do you say, sandra? >> sandra: that's what trump wants her to do and she has a proven track record of doing that. she knows business. she does education. worked in long time at a university in connecticut. said this in the release about her, the education back to the states, and he wants checks and balances get back to math, reading, writing, and educating our nations children again. we have gotten so far away from that. these state-by-state report cards, they are horrific in so many of our states right now. >> greg: very true. yay on linda. hm for me on -- >> judge jeanine: i like mehmet. >> greg: i got to find out where he stands now -- >> jessica: the wwtv, a scandal going on that involves children. >> greg: "the fastest" up next. jessica! ♪ ♪

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musical. >> jessica: to welcome back. gladiator battles are making a comeback to rose coliseum and locals are not happy about it. airbnb is taking heat after inviting visitors to unleash the inner gladiator by downing historically accurate suits of armor and duking it out in this invitation blood sport. greg, how would you feel if you were a roman and the gladiators were coming back? >> greg: i'd tell the locals to stuff it. it's like, what's the big deal? finally somebody is doing something in the colosseum. me and kudlow do this in westchester every weekend and none of the locals there complain. granted, we are not wearing pants, but still. >> jessica: right into the hot tub. sandra?

>> sandra: i don't know. >> greg: make a point! >> judge jeanine: yeah. 30 seconds. >> sandra: does this trivialize such a historic site? >> greg: we can't normalize the colosseum. >> judge jeanine: look, as it says here, rome is not disneyland. i don't like them going in the colosseum. it's like the kata cold. you don't want to wear it all down, you want to preserve it. >> greg: rome is overrated. come on, they are all falling down, look at that place. jesse? >> judge jeanine: jesse, say something. >> greg: the leaning tower, fix that. >> judge jeanine: that's pisa. >> jesse: is that in italy? >> judge jeanine: it is. >> jesse: that's in italy. isn't the leaning tower of peace in italy? i thought we were talking about ancient greece. >> judge jeanine: pisa is not

in greece, either. that's the parthenon. >> jesse: i was licking the parthenon. >> judge jeanine: you were not. >> jessica: "one more thing" is next. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> judge jeanine: time now for "one more thing," jesse? >> jesse: feeding frenzy. let's see it. today we are trying tina's pizza thanksgiving pie. greg is going for it. second flight. roasted turkey grave, roasted roasted turkey, mozzarella and homemade cranberry sauce. deer park in new york out on long island. everybody enjoy. tonight, "jesse watters primetime," obama has got a new job. >> greg: really? >> judge jeanine: all right, go. >> greg: all right, tonight. this is amazing. i have jordan peterson for the whole hour and then who is

hilarious. kat and tyrus. should i skip animals are great? >> judge jeanine: that would be great. time for clueless criminals. >> greg: for that? >> judge jeanine: they didn't want it. if your delivery was late last week. this might be why. the bozo steals the delivery work while the worker is still inside. the poor delivery woman was forced to jump from the back of the truck while it was moving. thankfully it slowed down and the perp was apprehended and i'm on hannity tonight. so there. >> greg: that was no animals are great. >> jessica: animals are great and congratulations to raffaele nadal who retired from tennis. 22 grand slams. 14 french opens. a record incredibl raymond, thank you. jesse is next. it is donald trump's world and