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>> hello everyone i'm julie along with lisa boothe charlie hurt and tom shillue welcome to the big weekend show the big story tonight president-elect donald trump is preparing for major confirmation fight right now. that he hases full team to dismantle the deep state. the left is freaking out over his decision to replace fbi director chris ray with kash patel. >> patel is a maga loyalist lacking serious experience in federal law enforcement. but then why should that stop him? he's obsessed with the so-called deep state that doesn't even exist. the kash patel one an agent of the president elect's retribution agenda. >> presidents don't do this coming in because of the fact that the fbi is supposed to be apolitical. start investigations simply to sort of whitewash trump's involvement with insightment illegalities. what will weaponize the fbi. >> but in case you forgot here's a reminder of everything that's

happened since trump left office. now just hours ago, we learned more about just how petty attorney general america garland is that he would sending federal agents into the home of a former president likely 2024 candidate over a document dispute. >> the 45th president of the united states deleting 2024 candidate donald j. trump has now been indicted by joe biden's department of justice. >> outrage pouring in after metaceo revealing pressured company to sensor americans during the covid pandemic and he says he regrets bowing down to the demands of the white house. he says when facebook didn't agree biden administration expressed frustration. >> chaos in virginia the last school board meeting resulting two people arrested and meeting ending and people worrying their

voices could be stifled if there's concerns about indoctrine their children with a woke ationd. now patel has been tapped to lead the fbi. watch this. >> i would shut down the fbi hoover building on day one. and reopening the next day -- as a museum of the deep state same thing with doj bringing in the right people you have to shrink government. people need to know there's a deweaponization of the department of justice and that in my opinion is how congress can most importantly secure the trust or resecure the trust of the agencies and departments. >> we have team coverage tonight madeleine rivera is live at white house but first we're going get to live to west palm beach florida where mark meredith travels with the president. hi, mark. >> julie good evening to you president-elect trump excuse me, president-elect trump is repeatedly criticized the fbi saying they are corrupt and full of political malpractice now he's hoping that his new nominee to head the bureau will be able

to overhaul the nation's premier law enforcement agency. now kash patel and trump go back a ways and somebody served as a public defender, a staffer on the house intelligence committee, and chief of staff once at the department of defense. patel is repeatedly said if he got to the top post he would root out the deep state over the years called for dramatically reducing the fbi foot precinct and limiting its authority which he says has been widely abused we heard from house speak or mike johnson among those praising patel saying he has extensive experience at intelligence and he's an american first patriot who will bring much needed change in transparency to the fbi. tonight some republicans senators are also cheering on the pick. >> i think kash does have relevant experience particularly with the mandate signed turning agencies around with completely corrupted. kash pointed out he's probably best uncovering what's happened with the fbi and i look forward to seeing him taking it apart. it is unclear if christopher

wray the current fbi director will resign before trump comes to washington or if a way to be terminated the fbi sent out a statement last night saying ray remains focused on his job one person who is excited for change in leadership iowa republican chuck grassley he wrote, ray is failed at a fundamental duties of the fbi director and he showed disdain for discretionary oversight and time to chart a course for transparency and patel must prove to reform and restore public trust in the fbi. a lot of different reaction coming in to this nomination, as for the president-elect, he spent much of his weekend at his golf club we didn't see him on camera except for the motorcade back and forth and he did announce nominations head up the dea as well as a new mitd east advisory who also happens to be the father-in-law of trump's daughter tiffany. julie. >> mark meredith thank you very much on more how preparing for the battle against to madeleine rivera live at the white house tonight.

hi madeleine. reporter: senate republican early support for kash patel a lot of democrats are promising to oppose him. i will organize them to see what's happening here. kash patel only qualification because he agree requests donald trump that the department of justice should serve to punish lockup, and intimidate donald trump's political opponents so the cost of the american public is pretty simple. the department of justice and the fbi is supposed to be there to go after gun traffickers and finance and department of justice is serving political interests. >> patel needs a simple majority to be confirmed his nomination make it is to the full senate. republicans hold a 53-47 majority so patel can only afford 3 provided that all democrats stick together in

rejecting him. the white house has not commented directly on patel nomination as fbi director but national security advisor jake sullivan did speak about the biden administration approach to the role. >> current fbi director chris ray was actually appointed by donald trump joe biden fire him. he relied upon him to execute his responsibilities as the director of the fbi, and allowed thoil serve out fullness of his term over the course of the biden administration. so that's how reproch things, and we would like to ensure that the fbi remains an independent institution insulated from politics. president biden meantime could be with the last international trip of his presidency. julie. >> thank you very much. all right so -- patel is, obviously, gotten a lot of praise from conservatives. over the fact that he wants to completely overhaul the fbi. and that's going to be possibly an issue i don't know when it comes to senate confirmation

hearings because -- the whole maga, you know -- hasn't helped when it comes to senate confirmation hearing how do you think this process will go when it comes to patel? >> i think donald trump deserves to have people surrounding him. i think there are going to be weak kneed republicans we've seen senator mike rounds say christopher wray is a good guy and mike rounds is a senator in south dakota a state that donald trump won with over 63.of the vote. so if you want to primary someone look at him for 2026. christopher wray is not a good guy i love this laughable talking point now that somehow the fbi shouldn't be engaged in the weaponization of government or should be some sort of apolitical body when is the last time it's been. look at what christopher wray has done and personally targeted kash patel. he also created a whole new division within the fbi to target january 6ers including nonviolent, you know,

grandmothers he's targeted grandmothers over the face act this is someone who targeted catholic churches you remember that fbi memo saying that catholic churches are, you know, breeding grounds for terrorism as well. targeted parents at school board meetings as well. the list goes on and on so christopher wray is not good guy but corrupt and tried to sow doubt saying that donald trump could have been a bullet maybe it was shrapnel and saying it was a bullet so christopher wray is a very bad guy he needs to get out of there and kash patel is not a threat to democracy but bureaucracy. >> but this one in particular, obviously, everybody is freaking out about -- a cnn senior reporter said kash patel an agent of the agenda and goes on to say presidents don't do this coming in because of the fact that the fbi is supposed to be apolitical.

have you ever heard of james comey that name ring a bell but saying that this is any different than any -- previous pick? >> and as lisa points out whole point of this is to end retribution inside the fbi. and but i also love the idea that you have all of these people in the press who were having vapors about this. saying that, you know, oh, my goodness he's maga. and he subscribes to donald trump's agenda yeah. that's why we have elections. the whole poifnght election is so that we elect a president who gets to hire people who share his world view and it is not like donald trump started talking about this in the last ten minutes but this is years and especially over the past year during the campaign. we've heard donald trump talking about this issue of weaponization inside a doj inside the fbi, and his drier to clean it out. and so we had the election. he won with those arguments, so

surprise, surprise that's exactly what's going to happen. >> right. democrat congressman jamie claims he hasn't seen proof that the fbi has been weaponized against a political party just watch this. >> i haven't seen what the proof is that the fbi has been weaponized against a political party or the department of justice. i think that's what they mean when they talk about politicization in the deep state. the deep state nobody has ever defined it apparently just means anybody who doesn't do the will. of donald trump -- >> so tom does that mean that there was no weaponization when it came to trying to loop trump with russia and having him the whole russia hoax? >> there we go. is that not weapon dismaition >> i made agree with jamie on this that there's no evidence that -- that the deep state has been against republicans or in thes they're against trump. they're against maga and what is the most bipartisan organization in the united states? the deep state that's why

they're all going on here. that's why you have republicans agrees with democrats they don't want kash patel in that position you have michael steele and john bolton and then a hand l of democrats why agrees because they're part of the deep state that's what kash patel is going after and we played a clip that was a brilliant thing he said he wanted to empty the building turn into a museum. of the deep state, but then he went on to say after that, and i want all of those employees we're going keep those employees get them out of the building and tell them to go out in -- in the highways and byways of america and start arresting bad people. that's what the fbi is supposed to do. >> actually go forward with that museum i suggest a wax museum so he can't talk and just be there. >> that's what it is like now. it is like a museum so idea he says let's get back to business to getting bad people that's what the fbi is supposed to do. i don't remember doing that recently but i don't know. >> other thing that really kind of drives me crazy i get people

like jamie don't like this because, of course, the deep state you know he represents the deep state. literally and figuratively but members of the press. you're supposed to be like questioning the government. and they're just shocked at the idea that someone would be suspicious that the government is up to no good. that's the whole point of being a reporter in the first place. you're supposed to hold, you know, accountable people in power. but they don't care. >> part of the reason kash is drawn from christopher wray because he authored of the muñiz memo that house intelligence committee put out in 2018 calling foul on the fbi and department of justice weaponization against carter page. we have to move on coming up on "the big weekend show" is it the end of the world as we know it amazon alexa is predicting doomsday might be closer than we think. plus this. [inaudible conversations] i have no problem --

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♪ ♪ >> welcome back tots big weekend show. millions of americans will have to show their ids to fly back home following the thanksgiving holiday. but not illegals. they can pass airport security check points using either the cbb1 app or immigration forms. this comes as new i.c.e. data obtained by new york post reveals that nearly 670,000 migrants in the united states are either convicted felons or facing criminal charges. over 58,000 of those are reportedly roaming the streets of new york city, and more than a thousand of them are either suspected or known gang members. i mean charlie we also saw this

homeland security inspector general report talking about how high risk migrants have been able to enter the united states without proper idea to roam the country via domestic airlines dpluk doing that as an american trying to get through some of these check points. why are americans on receiving end of more scrutiny than illegal aliens in this inassistance >> good news for illegals they can also vote in most democrat states without an id either. i just chalk these up to the list of things that we're going look back at in ten years -- and marvel at that you actually had a major party in the united states defending whether it's not having to show id to vote, or allowing an invasion of the border again without ids. and then having taxpayers flying people all over the country without id. it's kind of amazing the good news is i think that this was probably one of the three biggest issues in the election. americans voted against this

nonsense. and i think that we're emerging from the insanity. >> yep. you know tom you saw some of the numbers with the criminals -- that have been able to enter the border it takes me back to after the laken riley trial of the msnbc headline that said laken riley killer never stood the chance not that she never did but illegal graduate killer never stood a chance and it shows you that world view and the mind of both the media and the left as well that somehow he's the victim and not her. >> we mention this is such a busy holiday travel weekend i'm assuming that americans all over are seeing this whatting in real time because i can remember a couple of years ago being in the airport and it was first time i saw people holding up a piece of paper to go through the security. you know, and we were all waiting there with our ids or we had, you know, scanning our eyeballs and i saw a line of people waved through by immigration officials now i see it almost every time i go to the airport people holding up letters and going through. i bet americans are seeing that

happening thousand. and of course we see, you know, that we're flying them all over the country, at first people thought these criminals are coming over our border and then there are just disappear they're not disappearing but registering with the authorities and we're flying phlegm one city to another. it is unbelievable. >> julie more than 58,000 in new york city there's a mayoral race next year we saw how this shaped the presidential election do you think this issue will shape that race? >> in the mayoral race illegal immigration problem here in the city is going to be addressed. no and i believe that a democrat is actually going to get onboard i don't think a republican will get elected here. but i do believe that the next democrat that runs for mayor gets elected for mayor will indeed make a change because roosevelt hotel which we're talking about later is another example of a hotel dpleel overtaken by illegal immigrants as far as the humanitarian crisis on the border, though, i have to address these videos that have recently surfaced. that one ten-year-old boy who was crying standing at the border abandoned left with no adult he was holding cell phone.

and he was left there no clothes no backpack, nothing. and this is in the midst of a sex trafficking crisis that we're, you know, currently undergoing with minors being involved. and all of these minors that are being abandoned at border and now they're allowed to fly around country freely with no identification what in the heck how do you do that? how does the country not take responsibility for minors forget the criminals criminals that's another thing but the minors how do we do that? >> i'm glad you mentioned that julie because over the past week we've seen video of three migrant children abandoned at the border texas dps is documenting those heart wrenching moments. watch this. >> the process -- >> got no problems -- >> see. >> senior -- [inaudible conversations]

[speaking spanish] >> yes? [speaking spanish] [speaking spanish] >> that's awful. one of them is two years old we've also seen kids dropped over the border wall more than half a dozen abandoned over the biden-harris administration. charlie, i talked to incoming border czar saying this is a priority for the administration many are forced into forced

labor and sex trafficking. >> so this is a child humanitarian crisis that was entirely created by the biden-harris administration. i think i always think it is so funny when we get moral lectures from people who don't support donald trump, and i'm like wait a minute, you voted for this child humanitarian crisis. and even after you saw what they did to the border four years later, you voted for it again -- so i don't to hear anymore lecturing from the people about anything. my only hope is that, obviously, we cover this stuff as it comes out and we do it pretty diligently and my only hope is because we're outside of an election, that the rest of the media will wake up and realize that since there isn't an election at stake that they have to rig for in favor of their candidate they'll start telling stories because these stories are absolutely shocking and stunning and we're talking at, you know, anywhere from 30,000 to over a hundred thousand

children that have been completely lost, and you have to assume that a huge number of them have been lost to the sex trafficking. >> tom what do you make of what charlie said do you think the media will start telling the truth about this? >> media is lined up against it and take over opportunity like they did in the first trump administration with kids in caging and we have this massive bureaucracy of nongovernmental organizations that are going to fight tooth and nail to take advantage of our asylum law that's why we can't just do little fixes. we can't just put up a wall and just have that remain in mexico policy. we have to tackle the asylum situation because people generally they have this idea that there's such a thing as illegal immigrants, and then there's a other thing that's migrants that's refugees, and they're two entirely different things with different definitions and it is really all nonsense because in this country, we have people who will allow you to claim to be a

migrant to be a refugee. and they will give you an all of these organizations and they're loaded with money are going to help you be a refugee and take advantage of our system. so notice with the tax dollars. >> yes. i have to say something realistically speaking mass deportation won't happen they're not all getting -- >> way more than that. exactly but that's in the last couple of years. but that's not going to happen. what needs to happen you brought up amnesty because the program first of all would require for these illegal immigrants to actually show up to their courts or appointments most are got aways and they're forever lost in the system so then you look at the tens of thousands of people who are actually in the system and going to do it the right way even though they came in illegally you put those on the side and address the criminals in the country that are in the tens and tens of thousands get rid of them. deport them and then find there have been 300,000 total children that have been crossed into the country illegally where are they? they're in our schoolings and we're paying for their free

education that is absolutely -- >> been something like 10 million under biden administration and also if you came here illegally you didn't the right way but i'm personally for mass deportation. i think we can -- have the will to do it and i think it is going to be very hard to find them all. put me down for supporting it. all right. up next on "the big weekend show" -- >> was actually threatened i was concerned that he would lash out and i look around there's women and children. closing arguments are set to begin tomorrow in the daniel penny trial if the jury convicts the marine veteran should good samaritans be worried about protecting others in danger? we'll get to that, next. ♪ ♪ (♪) imagine checking your own heart with medical precision from anywhere. introducing kardiamobile 6l, the fda-cleared ekg

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>> welcome back to the big weekend show. closing arguments are set to begin tomorrow morning in the daniel penny trial here in new york city. the marine veteran is facing manslaughter charges and up to 15 years in prison in connection with death of homeless man jordan neely an shown interrogation video during the video. >> this guy was actually threatening. this guy was actually like i was concerned that he would actually lash out. he said you want to go to prison forever he said he's going kill you because of this and this, and look around there's women and children. >> jury also saw video of eyewitnesses telling police how they felt threatened by neely. [inaudible conversations] >> dude got up and about to hurt somebody and got up and -- i guess he was pissed or something. but i looked at him right and

then he started taking off his sweater and threw it and then he told like everyone that he had like a rough day and that he don't care what happens today. he don't care about going to jail. but that's someone is dying -- >> deliberations are expected to begin some time this week okay. so we don't have 12 angry men here so let's play four angry panelists -- what -- charlie should he be found not guilty or innocent it is your choice. >> definitely not -- [laughter] not not guilty and geffen an award. you know, obviously, what we have a second amendment right to defend ourselves. it is not given by the government it is given by god and if you have the right to arm yourself, then you have the right to defend yourself and your fellow countrymen on a subway. but you know, if this jury makes a terrible decision, and doesn't recognize that, i think it is going to get i think that -- the reasons for leaving this

city just rack up on a daily basis but i can't think of anything of more profound personal reason than this. so leave this city. if the jury doesn't recognize his right to defend himself. >> yeah i assume jury is interesting -- charles gasparino said anyone who ridden the subway once knows he's not guilty and shouldn't be on trial at all julie. >> first of all according to prosecutors in order to charge and prove a second degree manslaughter charge, they do not have to prove intent so they don't have to say his intention or whether or not he blaifed recklessly. define that behavior i would believe that defending your life would not be reckless that is called self-defense and that is a legal term, and as far as the witnesses that are there, you heard penny in the interview room being questioned by investigators. talking about how there were women and children that were in that subway car that actually feared for they lives so he was defending them. what if he turned around and

killed someone on that subway and saying you're damned if you do and damned if you don't and you're right why live in the city if you're going on the subways and can't defend yourself from people who are on drugs and homeless and have nothing to lose. >> he was all of those things according to neely and what daniel penny be facing charges he weren't rate but those are charges against him and he's a patriot, marine two things the left hates but beyond that listen to what bistandsers had said jordan neely said -- >> i know i totally agree with you but i have breaking news i want to get to your reaction on this but we turn to fox news alert. ♪ ♪ president biden is expected to issue a pardon for his son hunter -- yes biden said on multiple occasions he would not pardon his son or he whispered it or commute his sentence and ahead of the december 12th sentencing for conviction on federal gun

charges hunter set to be sentenced on tax evasion charges december 16th none of that is going to happen lisa what do you think of that? >> i think he's corrupt we all now that joe biden was doing this and about jordan neely bystanders said he was instainly threatening sickening had a seitannic bell and that he was ready to go to go to riker's they thought they were going to die. that's what he was doing that day on may 1st, 2023. biden is corrupt and -- back to joe biden. >> she never let something go. you want her on that jury. >> a dog on a bone. >> the least shocking news -- that we've reported yet. >> you knew it was going happen. >> of course he was going to pardon his son and i think he should because he got him into the crack business in the first place. and so -- i mean, if i had that power, and i had a wayward son i would

pardon him. you know -- >> julie that's i think that's the key issue. charlie has it right it's that the fish rots from the head isn't that the saying? it was biden's fault that his son was running around selling -- you know, american influence right? >> no what bothers me most is lies we're told as far as biden knew what his son was up to that bothers me because two of them were, obviously, in conversation when hunter was, you know, practicing all of the international deals. it is just so wrong, and nobody is going to ever hold biden accountable for that. so i don't blame hunter. he got booted out of office. he got booted -- >> ultimately yes he does lose in all of this but i would have find out whose cocaine that was. i think we find that out before biden leaves. >> i think would you pardon your kid? i think i probably would. >> i would -- >> i don't blame he is pardon him. >> you said that well yeah. >> think about it like if any

dad could have pardoned me in all the jackpots i got into -- >> fame. >> i would be like yeah come on dad. dude. >> you're right absolutely. >> maybe that's why he got himself into all of this mess in the first place. >> completely -- >> well, i mean, i think -- >> you're so smart. >> you don't want to be on that jury. >> hunter biden doesn't want lisa on his jury. daniel penny does. >> kick me off in two seconds. >> haven't been picked as a cabinet member. what is it your turn? >> so good. >> a prompt if you're watching. we have a video of biden saying he would not pardon his son. let's see it. >> i'm extremely proud of my son hunter he's overcome an addiction he's one of the brightest most decent men i know and i'm satisfied that i'm not going to do anything i said i would abide by the jury decision and i will do that and not pardon him.

♪ ♪ >> well i guess he can say i'm going abide by the jury decision there's not because he's going to be pardoned he was lying. >> officially -- any politician ever says. >> stevie wonder saw this coming i love after what joe biden says he wasn't remember when he originally said i'm not going to do it and media is like he's not going to do it. he's not above the law and like we knew this moment was coming. >> when he knew if he admitted he was, obviously, they would get him reelected and never become an issue. >> should trump charlie now say that january 6th peemg -- people i look at them as my children so i'm going to all of them. >> i think he should at least commute the sentences of all of them, and pardon every single one that is -- was, obviously, just following the person in front of them wand ring through the capitol pardon every single one of them there was some that did more than just that and should commute their

sentence let them all out. every single one of them. >> what other pardons coming here and why are we just learning about hungtser and still plenty of time with another month. >> and you know why? because i was thinking about this. if i were donald trump, i would not -- pardon hunter biden. but which is why joe biden has to. right? i mean there's no -- because on paper there's no justification for pardoning the guy. guy is guilty, he got special treatment he was still guilty. so it makes no sense. but if you're his dads and you've got him into the -- jackpot in the first place -- >> he got it easy to your point right only reason he ever faced charges in the first place is sweet heart deal blown up by a judge and beyond that we know that whistle-blowers came forward and said they were thwarted and their investigation into hunter biden and anything that could possibly lead to his dad joe biden as well. they allowed the burisma information they allowed that to

pass the statute of limitations to not get him on the burisma money. >> that is hard -- >> all of the charges he didn't ever face because -- >> also say the message that democrats are setting to gun toting republicans out there. go ahead, be -- buy a drug but buy yourself a gun. honestly because he wasn't supposed to have a weapon and he bought because of his drug -- >> lied on a federal form. dges these are democrats that don't want republicans to have guns yet if you have a gun and you have a drug wrap you can still get a gun which is it? i don't know. >> this is official now he biden has signed pardon for hunter that's what we're reporting right -- so why after -- according to nbc yeah. julie it is after the holiday weekend isn't this the kind of thing if you sign the pardon you do it before thanksgiving. >> busy pardoning the turkey. [laughter] he doesn't have a lot of hours in his day to get that much done. j the news of the week now it is monday i think he should have

done it before the holiday. >> buried it. that is very true but that is true because now you know this is going to be the talk. >> if you're joe biden what do you care at this point knocked down by your party totally kicked out -- securing border what does he care at this point? >> if he's all profamily now is he going to meet his granddaughter that's the only question i have right now if you're suddenly care about your family go meet your granddaughter and at the white house. >> why not? because do it now there's no point. like joe biden is ruined right he's got pushed out -- the dropped out of the vix somehow still the president of the united states and administration will go down in failure. >> replaying videos of him talking about the pardon wait a minute that guy is still president of the united states. this is insane. [laughter] you forget. >> we forget. exactly -- we move on to more important things. >> yet people are making decisions in ukraine to like -- long range missiles right into

russia right so it is like who is making these decisions? i guess he's i assume he's aware of making decision about hunter biden this might be only decision he's aware of. >> but i don't think listen -- people when you talked about this before, and you said, you know, we discussed this. when he promised he wouldn't pardon his son -- we talked about it and most people agreed well we know he's lying and then when you talk to people about it he said he's probably lying an you asked should he pardon his son yeah it is his son he has power to do it he will. so i think basically there won't be any -- there won't be any hill to pay for this that -- do you agree? most people will say well that's what i would have done. >> one of many lies. you know administration and everyone around him including kamala harris we're lying about his cognitive state why wouldn't he lie about pardoning his son and admit that he thought he was going to get reelected and never thought an issue. like you lie until you get caught and realize you have to tell the truth because you have no choice at this point he's not nothing to lose. >> he lies about weird things

why not lie about this. like top of the class -- he was bottom but like a civil rights leader -- >> truck driver, in a motorcycle gang -- >> what's trump going say about this? are we awaiting the tweet? >> what do you think he's going to say, i mean -- this is going to be the interesting point. >> he lied about being a truck driver. all right stick with us. we are going to be looking for trump tweets. stick with us we're going to have more on this breaking news and others news from the white house -- after this. christians and j ews, and this hanukkah holiday is of urgent importance. this is our last chance to help thousands of holocaust survivors who are suffering today. have you eaten this morning? i ate the carrot, so i ate half of it yesterday, and this is what she ate in two days. please pray for me!

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this is comes what weeks before -- his sentencing was supposed to be on december 12th on federal gun charges something that there are people that are sitting in jail for today for less. >> this actually sets a very bad precedent honestly and this is goes much deeper you know people are going to wonder why is it such a big deal, of course, president of the united states is going to -- going to pardon their son. on criminal charges, of course, he is. but that's not the point the message under this is much bigger and it is a much broader problem. it is the gun problem, and the gun control problem the democrats have been -- arguing against for year and years now makes you wonder well what is it okay to have a gun if you're the -- son of a president and you have a drug wrap sheet or is it okay to get a gun permit as well? where were the background checks? that is such a hypocritical stance from that administration and goes to show and we just aired video of the president

formally saying that he would not he went on the record and spoke to the american people on camera. saying that he would not ever pardon his son and here he is on the door out of the white house. he never thought that he would see himself in that position because he thought she would get reelected here we are talking about not only lied to but they have set a dangerous precedent like charlie just mentioned about all of the inmates that are -- in prison right now who did the same even less. and they're serving time behind bars and it is okay for the president son to do that and walk away free this is big news this week. >> so he was facing sentencing on december 12 t for the federal gun charges on december 16th he was facing sentencing for federal tax evasion. and as we talked about earlier this is not even all the charges that he could have been charged with on the tax evasion. >> well right we have whistle-blowers step forward and say that they were thwarted in the process of trying to dig in especially on the burisma money as well. that government officials

allowed that to lapse the statute of limitations couldn't go after that and thwarted in hi trail that brought them to joe biden as well. but i think this also kind of digs then and speaks that conservatives have been feeling for a long time. you know, you look at hunter biden getting sort of the sweet heart treatment with that sweet heart deal and then you look at what donald trump has been through. right with a multiple federal indictments and different parts of the country. also with what he faced here in new york city, as well and we even get to the, you know, classified documents. as well -- and donald trump had his house raided over that mar-a-lago and find out that joe biden has had classified documents he's had them since his time as united states senator. and then the 1970s knew he had them and told his ghost writer bragged about it and yet nothing for him. right? >> classified documents that were in his home in delaware that is a home where hunter biden stayed so hunter biden

could have access to classified documents that is another thing that is disturbing questions will be hidden forever on that as far as what hunter biden knew or see and did not see. in all of that, so you've got the classified documents yes, and then we've been talking about the fbi and corruption there, you just brought up the mar-a-lago raids, the fbi, in fact, was a part of that huge part of that. and now the, you know, mainstream media this week is going to be focusing so much on kash patel and upend the fbi and now this president make an argument that former president trump wasn't politicized when he, in fact, got his mar-a-lago property raided by the fbi. but here we have hunter biden pardoned by the president by much bigger crimes. >> we have chief correspondent shannon bream joins us by phone. hey, shannon. >> hi charlie big news for your sunday night. >> it is big news were you surprised by this? >> you know what, part of the me

yes and no we all pressed the white house many time use see peter doocy and jackie heinrich all of us asking every different way would there be a pardon and repeatedly being told no it absolutely will not happen but there was this part of me if you're outgoing president of the united states you have a power to spare your son you're going to do it. i think a lot of american people will understand what you've done as a father. i think it is very interesting the wording we have from this released from the white house -- it is as a full and unconditional pardon for offenses against u.s. which he's committed meaning hunter biden or may have and taken part in fact period from january 14th through december 24th including but not limited to all of the offenses charged or prosecuted by special con sill so this is beyond the two cases. this is saying there's anything else in that period, for

essentially ten years, i as president joe biden am giving a full pardon for thengs that may not have been charged yet and may still be out there so i think -- >> a fascinating point. >> on a legal, you know, speaking technically, the difference between a commutation and a pardon. and then how this -- how that applies to this full pardon. >> yeah this full pardon, i mean, that write it is out as if the person was never guilty and they were never, you know, tagged with this crime with this result. it didn't happen. commutation may have served part of the witness and wipe out part of the sentence and doesn't get rid of the overlying plea deal. so they are different and this one is more expandive in that respect and remember, i mean, this release from the white house from the president talks about the fact that they believe he was politically prosecuted.

but remember as that deal came together that then fell apart when a judge a federal judge started scwg questions remember we heard from the irs whistle-blowers which you guys have mentioned aye interviewed them and interviewed joseph ziglar who talked about not a conservative guy but he was watching these cases unfold and essentially our handle were tied we couldn't get to certain evidence we couldn't talk to certain people. and you know, he felt burdened enough as an irs investigative agent that he wanted to come forward so day this deal is not legitimate. >> shannon lisa boothe here you mentioned that this pardon is much broader than just the time period for the gun charges and the tax charges as well. what does that signal to you and looking at this as, you know, potential further guilt of hunt or biden and what he did? >> the president deciding to switch the messaging we got from the white house which was no pardon no commutation and for this son he won't have the power in a few weeks and he wanted to

step forward do this for his son and expect many of the american people are going to understand a father doing that and he goes beyond cases he was awaiting sentencing in. not indicating that there was anything else to be charged with but deciding he was going to take this step he wanted to make it as broad as possible to give as of protection to hunter as possible. for that time period that probably links up with when he, you know, prior to last five and a half years or so that he's been sober but he was struggling with addiction, and the president has always tried to protect him saying people make bad decisions in their adetections and cleaned up his life, and i think the president wanted to issue as much possible protection for him as broadly as he could before he leaves office. >> do you have a theory as to why usually we get pardons like midnight on january 19th and there's like a raft of them they get all of the embarrassing ones in there as well as -- the more defensible ones. and as you point out this one

will -- be perhaps easier to defend because you're talking about a guy's son, but also not exactly a political high point for joe biden but i wonder why he would do it, you know, a month and a half before he leaves office. >> you know, well you're coming off of a holiday weekend a lot of people may be traveling. maybe not paying attention, you know you drop it on a sngd night it is certain to make headlines on monday morning but our news cycles go quickly what will be the headline by monday night before you get to the traditional evening watchers although we have news 24 hours day on fox news for you it may have been that. maybe there was some family discussion over this thanksgiving weekend and a real heart to heart and a real soul searching by president biden also he's getting ahead of sentencing because those were coming and i had thought listen, if hunter biden gets some jail time adesigned to these convictions, maybe thing the president would say okay i'm not going to let my son go to jail.

but there's something about doing this ahead of the sentencing that you know will wipe him out so we don't have to find out whether hunter biden but a matter of fines, probation or whether there would have been jail time that also came with these sentencings. he's the president is getting ahead of that. >> for those of you whom that are just joining us now i want to update you on the situation here. this is breaking news coming out of washington. according to nbc, president biden will be signing a pardon for his son hunter which essentially means no jail time whatsoever for him and gets off scott free we have shannon bream on the phone and it to talk about charges and charges he's getting off on on december 12th scheduled to be sentenced on federal gun charges also set to be sentenced on december 16th after pleading guilty in september, on federal tax evasion charges. he pled guilty to those charges. so that was a deal that he, obviously, tried to plea out on by pleading guilty he was hoping

for a lesser sentence if, in fact, he were to be sentenced. let's say hypothetically this pardon didn't happen what kind of jail time do you think he could face? >> you know there were many scept ticks out there including, you know, people who are -- you know, right offender including former prosecutor who is said listen, these cases are not ones that i would have brought. this guy is -- other who is lie on gun forms that doesn't get prosecuted so there was a sense among a lot of people that includes trey who was a long time federal prosecutor who said, you know, i'm not sure those would have been considered a first time offender so he has expressed real doubt that there would have been serious jail time and when you look at two cases it is not just a situation of -- of him being a first time offender because of you have two separate charges that had guilt for him those could have

piggybacked into thing bigger and tbhoax thought as a first time offender not a serious amount of the jail time if any. >> shannon we've got a statement from president biden -- saying today i signed a pardon for my son hunter alleging that the prosecution is politically motivated a miscarriage of justice and charges came about only after several of my political opponents in congress investigated them to attack me and oppose my election. no reasonable person who looks at the facts of hunters case can reach any own conclusion that he was singled out only because he's my son. i hope americans will understand why a father and a president would come to this decision. biden added claiming he made the decision this weekend he and family are spending thanksgiving holiday in nantucket massachusetts with the entire family as you pointed out julia they were clearly a family discussion or maybe you said that shannon that this was a -- a family discussion over