executive orders that untangle the regulation, get them off the back of our businesses because they can't compete and they will compete and we will be anybody but we can't if we ever owned regulatory climate that is putting us at a disadvantage. >> it might be a good time to put them in golf because his hand will be tired and blistered from siding executive orders, all keep that in mind, stephen moore, thank you for joining us on a sunday night. >> thank you. trey: thank you for spending part of your sunday with us. i hope you had a great thanksgiving and have a great week ahead. until next week you can find us online at gowdy america or the tri-county podcast good night from shannon: i am a shannon bream.

today an in-depth look at the rise of artificial intelligence, its promise to revolutionize human life in the 21st century. and fears it could spiral out of its creators control. it is a driving force behind remarkable advances in disease research. self driving cars state-of-the-art military and policing tools. artificial intelligence is quickly becoming the most consequential and controversial scientific development in modern history as the greatest minds in the world work to understand its power and dangers. we talked openai ceo sam altman about his vision to optimize benefits and mitigate the risks. inside the race to maintain superiority on the evolving technology as china pours a billions inofbillions into ai r. former secretary of state condoleezza rice the high stakes over the future of the tool and what it means for national security. >> we simply have to win what is now the most important

technological arms race and may be human history. >> all right now is "fox news sunday" looks at the state of ai. ♪ hello from not fox news in washington and hits a look at the top some of the top headlines president electronic nominate longtime ally kash patel to service the next fbi director set to replace current head christopher i would have to resign or be fired. patel served a number of rolls in quoting deputy director of national intelligence. syrian rebels continuing their stunning advantage of government held territory after taking control of the country's largest city, aleppo. the offensive monitoring the biggest challenge to the president's regime in years. a major winter storm blanketing parts of western new york and the midwest with up to 40 inches of snow. maybe more raising serious concerns for many ahead of the

busiest travel day of the year. adding insult to injury. an ugly role breaking out after michigan upset win over ohio state yesterday. try to michigan school flag. the special today state of artificial intelligence. powerful life changing innovation transforming just about every part of society. over the next hour we will explore how ai came to be comments unrivaled capability and benefits the very real risk it imposes for just a moment senate mark warner joins us on the debate lawmakers are having how to create guardrails without hindering innovation. first we go to william for a look at the progression of this technology and where it might go next. >> good morning. what can i do for your question. >> voice or text artificial intelligence is about to change your life since it microsoft.

>> draft an e-mail to my daughter's school pta. dear pta members, i hope this e-mail finds you well. >> so how does it know to come up with these ideas? >> it runs hundreds of millions of evaluations and millisecond time. >> weathers a conversation or generating images. >> were going to say wheat fields in a valley at sunrise. >> ai is revolutionary like the pc, internet, cloud and mobile phone. machine learning began in the 50s. by 97 the computer beat chess champion. later became a robotic dog and humanoid. >> my name is watson piquant watson one jeopardy. applapple introduced siri. amazon gave alexa by 2022 openai chatgpt outperformed many phd's.

>> is more information to the internet than any human being in the history of the world has ever individually consumed. >> access to that gives ai superhuman ability to sort images or generate new ones. >> is a sin ai generate image? lexis did not exist prior to my asking for. >> the future is not scientific or fantasy is not in the future. it's here and now. >> many on capitol hill fear ai competitors are moving too fast federally agency to audit assistant before they go public. what's the control of this technology by just a handful of companies and governments is a huge, huge problem for some states are stepping into prohibit cloning voices or faces. >> there's a lot of deep fakes out there not a lot of disclosure, not a lot of labeling. the industry worries regulation will stifle innovation, others fear the future if we don't. shannon: thank you william. to me now virginian senator mark warner and cha chair of the senl

committee. he has back several measures on capitol hill with regard to regulated ai. senator welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> thank you, shannon. plenty of bipartisan support we have seen the hearings and yet nothing is made across the finish line. how do you see some legislation coming together some greeting guardrails? >> first of all, let's look at a couple other topics. first we have national security concerns i know you're going to have condoleezza rice on later. this battle and race to win the ai, we have got to win in china as our huge competitor. at this point we are ahead in nationstates like saudi arabia and uae are moving the geopolitical stance to more favor us because they want our technology pay that's good we've got to maintain that lead. second, to power ai we will need a enormous amounts of energy. the number of data centers at will. create around the country are

enormous. to power those were going to need to bring back small nuclear actors. not once people to clean my without that. on the regulatory front you are right and there's lots of smoke but not much action. i fear the race to ai the entities are moving ahead so quickly we may not be put in guardrails in place. think about recent news week telecom companies are moving so quickly to get speed they did not do much on protection and now look at the chinese penetrating all of our telecom networks and a major major at worst hack in our history. if that's of us on the same guardrails in place around ai without slowing innovation but i would argue it comes comes thae of buckets. one comment ramp systemic risk, macro risk how we manage that there's a couple of ideas nothing put forward yet that i think passes muster but that is one area. secondly to make sure specific risks like manipulation of markets one of things we did not

see this year with ai manipulation of our elections the way we thought the same ai tools could be used to manipulate markets and very concerned about that. some states have already moved with facial images. i am hopeful we will season action there. one area we all ought to be able to agree on is protecting our kids if we could go back 10 years ago but guardrails on social media most of us no matter where we sit on the political agenda it would put some guardrails in place. we ought to do the same in terms of ai. we do not want our kids not conceptual use of faces with nude images. there are some low hanging fruit i think even ai companies could move on even without regulation. shannon: you said more broadly you think there should be six sort of a geneva convention sort of agreement what comes of the use of ai and warfare. do you trust the international community, the other players would agree to something like that? what would it look like? >> listen, i don't think i would believe we authoritarian states

like russia, china, and north korea would ever adhere to standards. i wish we would've done that in cybersecurity pit where the nationstate back in the late '90s that did not want that to happen and now it seemed china penetrates a many of our networks. i do think having some guardrails because on international basis would set some standard of care. give note we develop the leading ai model some entities like mad at which have an open source model that is released into the wild. can be developed by other nationstates uae for example has done that. having some international guardrails recognizing at the end of the day the authoritarian nations will probably never fully hear to them. >> you have talked about this idea saying had of china on the use of ai technology you mentioned social media there is a lot of people who think social magali from washington for they were able to sort of regulate

some the dangers out of it for they were the same thing may happen with ai. talk to the cofounder of the center for humane technology. he's a guy who invented infinite scrolling he's not happy it's being used now social media for scrolling he says this about china at this race how we may have gotten it wrong on social media. here's his take. >> here ihere's the fundamental question we beat china to the wild scare deployment of social media into our societies. but does that make a stronger work did it make us weaker? >> we cannot just be in this race but getting technology first we have to make sure especially with the world of ai it furthers our evaluation when we are in this race of china how do we do that how do we find that balance? >> anthink again this is a question about speed. i think we are far enough ahead of china a little bit of speed

bumps were not slowed at innovation. i do not want to regulate this we go back to my analogy they were racing to get the fastest connection possible. we have seen recently with modern american history salt typo in the race to speed has allowed china to penetrate our network and frankly at a level of counterespionage problems we have never seen before. in the same can be done exponentially greater and ai if we don't build in some protections. if we do not also think about making sure these models are appropriately trained and tested before they are released. i think there's a lot of folks who agree with that. when you've got literally billions and billions of dollars racing in and who will get the next model out there, this is a constant tension.

congress is a record on this is just pitiful. we have never even put the beginning of a guard rail on any social media. finally some states are starting to put age limits in place. he may see states and move again on a clicker they've already started to use prohibitions for example in deep fake technology which we ought to take a look at the federal level as well. shannon: and went to get you a couple other questions for you want to ask about the situation that's developing in syria words that rebels are taken aleppo the largest city there is a credible same for the white house coming from the spokesperson who said essentially has not been cooperating with the un policies and regulations that are supposed to be in place with regard to syria. talks by his reliance on russia and ironic clearly they are signaling they will prop him up if necessary what are your concerns about what you are seeing in syria we've got a region with many, many other

problems? >> he is a bad guy. he hasn't murdered millions of his own people. his strongest ally is russia, hezbollah, iran, i think you are seeing the rebels now push back on aleppo you may see it moving towards other major cities in syria. his regime could come but we should be very concerned because remember it syria h syria has es amounts of military. chemical weapons, but this is what happens when russia props up and iran props up authoritarian figures like this. shannon: with respect to russia's will the ramping up attacks on infrastructure more recently that is been aimed at the substations that went to nuclear facilities in ukraine. what do you make of that situation and what you think is coming with the transition to a second trump administration with regard to wrapping up what's going on with russia and ukraine? >> i wish the biden

administration had allowed the ukrainians to use the missiles we gave them to target those russian sites that we are attacking. ukrainian energy sources would have made sense. clearly ukraine does not have the manpower that russia has. but remember ukraine without the loss of a single american soldier took out 87% of pre-existing armed forces 63% of their tanks. the armored personnel carriers there's a guy that grew up long term enemy ukrainians report magnificently per the getting worn down. i just hope and future trump administration does not pull the rug out from under them. shannon: editor or not we always appreciate your time thank you good to see you. >> thank you. shannon: former secretary of state condoleezza rice said this in a technological arms race and when it comes to ai. ahead, her thoughts on what needs to be done to keep america

ahead of the pack. >> 's nondescript building in san francisco is the incubator for artificial intelligence. coming up my conversation with the man whose guiding technology that is changing the world

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shannon: welcome back to "fox news sunday." the state of ai next guest is a leading figure in the industry. sam altman is one of the cofounders and ceo of openai. research company you will know well for its development of chatgpt. he has found himself at the center of this ongoing conversation about how to make sure ai benefits humanity.

an flesh out his thoughts about that responsibility. >> let's talk, best case and worst-case scenario. you have been honest about the potential harm that could come from ai. what should we know? quick societies been through things may not does many, many times the industrial revolution the computer revolution but one thing you can learn stating history's is not always obvious with the pluses and minuses are going to be. i will tail our current best guess. on the plus side people using these tools already today as ai medical advisors you hear from people who could not diagnose some disease they had these weird symptoms and chatgpt help them. to hear from people using this like an ai tool they are learning things they cannot learn before you hear people learning to help with their small business really wonderful things this is a tool that magnifies in all these ways. or very early into that will see incredible things hundreds of

millions of people in this already there will be billions and like with any other tool people will be able to do things they just could not do before. that really is how the world society gets better and better. on the downside to get right at it i am sure this will impact jobs, many drops they will make better and more productive but some it will make it worse and some will go away entirely. you can imagine cyber security incidents with these monitors would please him to hack into systems. you can imagine our adversaries getting a hole of these i'll be at national security issues. we have a lot of work to do we really need to stay in the lead. shannon: you talk about this will enable people to do things they couldn't do but what about things that shouldn't do? how much to worry about that? >> as part of building the tools. they're all sorts of things that you could imagine people using this technology for that for what we build, chatgpt we do not want use that way we try very hard to make sure you can't use it for some of the obvious and negative things you could do

with them. >> is this technology ventures we understand people are anxious about how it could change the way we live. we are to pick what you testified until you stay in touch with lawmakers. do you think they are the ones who at the guard rails? is it up to the developers? >> know it should be a question for society. it should not be open ii gets to decide on its own how chatgpt or how the technology in general is use or not. but we do have the responsibility to the best we can before that happens. so, as a society gets more expense with these tools which will take years and years i think it will become clearer what the standard should be. and that meantime we have to make some decisions should our tool respond this way are that which a certain query should you be allowed to use it for this thing that could be good or could be bad? one thing we try to do as a publish what our stanzas are so that people can tell when it's just a bug because he technology is still somewhat early and when

it is a decision we made people may disagree with so we could maybe change it. >> legislate the guar guardraile restrictions regulated? >> i think yes at some point when it is, what form it should be. i do not know when that should happen but any technology of this magnitude out expected to be legislation. >> is an incoming administration people have said they're not sure were president elect trump is on some of the staff hates talked a lot, want to talk to about the racing in china to make her stay ahead of them you tweeted about that after his election is that it's critically important the u.s. maintains his lead in developing ai with democratic values. he very much wants us ahead of time then it will have the same vase impregnating ai that we will. so where do we go in this race with china? >> infrastructure and then i say to super important. ai is a little bit different than other kinds of software and that it requires massive amounts of infrastructure, power, data centers, and we need to build

that here and we need to build had the best ai structure in the world to be able to lead with the technology and the capabilities. i believe present electronic will be very good at that. look forward to working with his administration on it. it doesn't seem to us like this is going to be very important it doesn't seemed like this will be one of these unusually important moments in history of technol technology. we very much believe the united states and allies need to leave this. shannon: you mention what it takes land, electricity, water, the heat that comes in its production. their communities are raising concerns about that. they're worried about the impact on their lives. >> first of all we are making enormous efficiency gains this idea in all the energy on earth probably will not be true. one thing we hear again and again as some communities do not want data centers or chip facilities or new power plants and some really do. i think the ice age's ajanta

company than a plenty of room to do this by. >> incoming vice president jd vance is a senator he's been there when you have testified. he's talked about those who have rated huge concerns were ai's going when killing reading taker the human race and replace us. he said they're asking for regulation that would entrench the incumbents that we have it makandmake it harder for new ens to be able to create the innovation is going to power the next generation of american growth. he seems maybe in conflict with some of what we have heard about president-elect trump regulating, not regulating if it ends up benefiting the big companies already a part of this game. >> first of all we were the little up and comer very recently. think it's very important to the american innovation economy and our position in the world that we allow small companies to do iwhat they do. one of the most special things about this country is our ability to repeatedly lead the way on innovation.

and repeatedly figure out the future of technology, of science, of progress and benefit from the enormous growth that happens from that. we look at some of our friends around the world and see very clear evidence of how bad it is if you stop having that. we really need that. we really as a country don't want to do anything to impede our smaller companies or make it more difficult for them. we clearly have had a regulatory overreach as a country. but, i think the big countries can handle it a little bit better if we are right the systems are as powerful as we think they're going to be i think most americans will say some oversight on that is a good idea. >> where are we on the spectrum of getting to her ai is making his own autonomous decisions? >> as its capabilities go up maybe right now do a 52nd task without supervision and eventually you give it a five minute task and then a five hour task and that a five day task. and then it may be go to a

five-month task that's like a full scientist explaining something i think it will feel more like that it will feel more like increasingly senior coworker. not one moment it was a thomas and when it was. >> and think about a lot of people do not understand i'll put myself in that category of got a basic understanding. but they worry about ai becoming sentiments about it making a thomas decisions about it telling humans you are no longer in charge. >> it does not seem to me too be kind of where things are heading. is it conscious or not? that might not be the right question that it would be like how complex of a task to do on its own? shannon: what about when the tool get smarter than we are or the tool decides to take over? you see very calm and chill about the future and optimistic we are going to bill him list responsibly. >> tools in many senses are already smarter than we are. i think the internet is smarter than you or i for the internet

knows a lot of things. in fact society itself is obviously vastly smarter and thathan any one person. we are already good at working with tools, institution, structure, whatever you want to call it there vastly more than one person as long as we have a reasonable, reasonably leveled playing field where it's not like one person or one company gets vastly more powerful i think we how to deal with that. shannon: is your brain always work like this if you ever feel like i think about the world i think about the possibilities and maybe a different way than other kids in my third grade class? [laughter] >> i grew up in st. louis in the west in a time when technology was not such a thing. we did have some computers in my third grade class but most kids did not like them that much at that their supercool. i was like a nerdy shy kid that probably like sci-fi much more than the average kid did.

but i never in any realistic sense that this would happen to me and feel very grateful. >> what do you think will be your legacy? >> i will hopefully not think about that for a long time. there's deep philosophical questions and writ right now wos hard as i can ease dance i get tired and then collapse in bed and thinking about a legacy feels impossible for us still. i view human progress as is one long exponential curve where we all get to build on the work people down before us that people come after us get to build further on the work we have done. i think our legacy like openai if we got to put into one important layer and that is like a tremendous honor. what excites me the most common to the degree there's a legacy here for us at all is the things

that people can do with this new tool that we help discover i think will astonish us. shannon: thank you for taking a break from all that for us. >> thank you. shannon: up next a very enlightening conversation about another one of the key voices in the world of artificial intelligence at south former secretary of state trent eight currently the director of stanford hoover institution to discuss ai impact on national security in the classroom. >> it is going to be a challenge to our norms. it's going to be a challenge or processes. we cannot go back. we have to recognize our students are going to be using it

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in total prizes won. so now the easiest way to enjoy the lottery is right in your pocket. jackpocket. download america's number one lottery app today. shannon: welcome back to "fox ne"foxnews sunday." the state of ai heard the growing technology has major implications for democracy, national security, and education. former secretary of state trent eight has been tracking the rapid advancements. rice is the current director of the hoover institution a think tank located on the campus of stanford university perch also cochairs the stanford emerging technology review we sat down with her there in california to get her view. click submit stanford univers university. this is the kind of epicenter of this technological revolution.

universities like this, the private sector that is here and i think that is the point which that america remains the most creative and innovative country in the face of the earth. largely because of the activities of the private sector. but even the people who are at the frontiers of ai don't know where it's going. they would be the first to tell you there are discoveries that infect shock them when you think about the fact were sitting here two years ago we would not have beofbeen talking about generatie ai. it's an exciting new world out here. >> everyone is and when some of the guardrails come in from the issue of national security as well there's a lot of open source on ai boat china among others aren't leveraging that. how much you think about this in terms of a national security issue? >> my answer to the national security issue is run hard and fast. we simply have to win what is now the most important technological arms race and may be hummaybe human history givent

ai can do and china if you look at how they handled covid simply covering things up i do not want any strategic surprises out and had talk or see. well i understand people are concerned about guardrails, what should we not want ai to do? my prescription is let's run really fast and really hard. shannon: there seems to be allowed bipartisan conversation but what to do were to go. nothing has moved ahead legislatively. do you think at some point it's going to be up till washington to work with these private entities and figure it will be go? >> you do not want to start regulating making laws about something you do not understand. and so the conversation between the creators, the private sector that is really the driving force behind these technological breakthroughs, it really does have to be a conversation. right now they're beginning to speak the same language but they're not quite there yet.

>> many of the same to believe that they succeed in building computers are smart as humans were far smarter than humans that technology will be at a minimum extraordinarily disruptive and at a maximum could lead to literal human extinction. >> while a bunch of evil robots that will take over the going to destroy humanity. >> people tend to go to the dark side what are the downsides what are the dangers? i understand the killer robot. i have a friend who works kind in this area. his view is you do not give ai a body you do not have to put it in in arobot and then the robots generally intelligent. the thing that gives me comfort is that a lot of the people you talk to who are at the leading edge, the frontiers want to be responsible with what they are doing. they don't want to threaten humanity or society.

this is an open field for conversation of what good regulation might look like. shannon: will roll to think there is for the government and development? >> right now the government i think would be best to worry about some of the things like the big infrastructure questions. what are you going to do about a grid that really cannot handle everything that we need? microsoft is famously now because they need. is that really the answer that we want? what are we going to do the power generation is taking place for instance in the middle east middle eastwork countries are md to be the supplier? i would say the government were about the infrastructure. worry about making sure that we have the talent to do this. the people who want to come hear from all of the world with this

partnership people engineering degrees recruit the best talent that universities are places of unfettered discovery in the sciences and engineering. you say we're going to fund fundamental research. we don't know if it's commercialized about. university of texas are places where people just get up and ask interesting questions. we have great strengths across the innovation ecosystem. we have distributed innovation one thing the chinese may do badly as he may try to control anything from the center. one thing we have going for us

someone may discover something quite remarkable. >> people here in the u.s. are doing it for joy on that a lot we discussed earlier is open source they want other people to benefit from these discoveries. sometimes those are people who share our values. >> it is very hard to contain knowledge. were trying to do the chip that makes it possible to do some kinds of generative ai. that he could do for a while. but eventually a society or country like china that has a much engineering talent will also figure out that problem. eventually people will figure it out. you have to keep ahead of them. shannon: you are here at stanford a long history of leadership here.

it's an academic setting this a lot of conversations about ai in that setting with term papers, with the researc research, with, with professors but how do you mention part of inflation? >> we are having such a interesting but difficult conversation about what to do ai aided learning and production. everybody is using chat gpt for basic functions. but i would like to convince my students that using a chat bot for learning has its downsides. did you ever actually learn the material? can you go 1 inch deeper than what the essay says? we have had this problem for some time. some of my students think if they googled it, they have researched it very constantly say to them this is a thing called depth in anything. don't just take the first answer

let's really try to think this through. his going to be a challenge to our norms. it's going to be a challenge to our processes. but we cannot go back. we have to recognize our students are going to be using it. we just have to figure out how it does not abbreviate in ways that are harmful, the learning process. shannon: you seem to be generally optimistic about artificial intelligence, what you're feeling moving forward? >> i'm generally an optimist always. but tickvertically optimistic ae technological frontiers. i recognize the downsides. for instance one of things people worry a lot about i know how hard the ai scientist, the engineers are working to try to deal with ways to show the deep fake. they are not aware of the

downsides they do not want to be on the wrong side of history. shannon: a lot of information comes from here it stanford thank you for taking time for us. >> great pleasure. shannon: she also told her she thanks european union went too far with it stringent ai regulations. sheet no it's not much innovation is happening happening there. send a panel reports sent truck may name a czar for all these in

>> even though we develop the leading ai models, sump entities like a medic which have an open source model, that is in effect released into the wild. and can be developed by other

nationstates uae for example has done that. i think having some international guard rails, recognizing the end of the day the authoritarian nations will probably never fully hears them. >> hundreson mark warner earlien the showtime international guard rails when it comes to the use of ai in warfare. time to talk about all with u a side gig at forbes contribute writer and editor of townhall.com. welcome as we debated thanksgiving sides versus turkey in the commercial cut of the important stuff to talk about two. we have got this issue regulate ai. how do you do that without stifling innovation customer in california had a law they got the bill all the way to governor newsom's desk he said he is not going to do it he worried it would burn the ability to innovate so he vetoed it. >> have learned so much this morning just by watching your show so thank you for diving into all the different aspects of this with a national security side of it, the energy side but

in terms of around washington d.c. regulation is a word that keeps coming up. politicians come wh, not to rego protect the american people to protect private property, intellectual intelligence. that if they are looking at doing with t but the big questis how they do that. violating civil liberties and stifling innovation. we have this thing called the constitution. and our haste to keep up with ai how it works in these companies doing amazing things, we still have to keep track of what policies may come out of d.c. and from the first amendment, see search and seizure of private data o the companies or maybe taking i'm not telling people who run these programs using ar. over too this a lot that can be done a lot of different aspects and filed on the underside of this, dcs to deregulate a lot. you were hearing from these experts is the white board many nuclear reactors on what you can

have ai develop to get ahead of countries like china. they're going to take at the nuclear regulations that have limited innovation on that side of the power structure in this country and around the world at they're actually going to keep up with what the energy needs are. shannon: were the ways that may be handled isn't ai's art we are told president trump is considering having someone chosen. but keeping america first axis reports this to the person would work with the department of government accountability juice ai to root out waste, fraud, use including entitlement fraud reportedly told it would not be elon musk but clearly he is going to have a lot of influence over president trump in this area. he and saint altman started it openai together they got a breaking apart, and difference of opinions there's a legal action aimed at the committee. he's got the president's ear. the president's been general against regulation but now they got there at what to do with the

specific field. plus it is a difference of opinion is that nice way to put where elon musk and altman sort of are in this particular one. i do think katy is right around how congress has to view artificial intelligence in regulating it. i say that my sent congress a sort of miss the boat back couple of decades on regular and technology. regulating how technology companies show up in space, show up in our lives, show up in the capitalist marketplace and think regulating ai for this congress is going to be very difficult in a world in which it's abdicated responsibility for so long. as a think about regulate and ai are passing any policy around ai is to think about the other inputs that get two to where we are. one katy talked about how you feel the energy grid that at this point in time we could argue is stressed might be close to failing. but beyond that it's how you deal with diversity equity and inclusion and not the way you think about the diversity and how they don't access. there are seven parts of the country weather to west

virginia, arkansas, mississippi, where there are american citizens american residents that don't have access to broadband when you expand ai imparts the country care in washington d.c. where we have access to broadband are able to use ai in education, to use ai and technology. to use as part of the governance and for many years especially the irs by this other parts of the country that do not have access to broadband if you don't have access to broadbent or the internet how do you use ai is there an advantage given to those places where you have access question that is what congress has to tackle how do you find research and fund investment the same time how to have commonsense rules of the road for technology that seem to be moving pretty quickly? looks we should note along with things we talked about people being worried about retaking the human race, it's been to a lot of medical researchers a huge tool in scanning radiology, scans for cancer and things like that. early treatment for stroke and n diagnosing this in the federal government is using it to find waste and fraud and abuse and white-collar crime and that kind

of think there are positives is a question how to manage it. while were to have a potential trump nominations overnight with got where he is chosen kash patel to lead the fbi that means christopher wray eitchristophers or is fired. former acting fbi director has this to say about the patel choice. >> is a terrible development for that men and women of the fbi. also for the nation that depends upon a highly functioning professional independent federal bureau of investigation. the fact that kash patel is profoundly unqualified for this job is not a matter for debate will have to talk about the confirmation process first let's tversus talkabout former actingr andrew mccabe. he will be leaking information to the media. the inspector general at the department of justice referred him for criminal prosecution. he is one of the top people who

has destroyed the reputation of the fbi over the past 10 years. there's been no accountability for him. he calls the current nominee unqualified. let's take a look at kash patel's qualification he's a deputy director of national intelligence overseeing 17 agencies. he was in the department of justice under barack obama prosecuting isis during the trump administration the first time around, he was in charge of taking out isis cells in the middle east with the administration did successfully. he has the foreign poli foreign. on the domestic side he is the one who wrote that memo exposing the fact the fbi was illegally wiretapping issuing buys a warrant against american citizens who work for a political campaign the first trump campaign. he has gone through and expose all of the civil liberty violations the fbi has engaged in with again no accountability over the past really 10 years

for it to start at the irs under barack obama it was not just in the fbi. people like andrew mccabe are saying this is retribution they are conflating retribution with accountability and kash patel now has experience on foreign policy but also on domestic policy as well with all of his work rooting out th at this corn use for political purposes against political enemies inside the intelligence communities and on capitol hill. shannon: richard i sense a different take coming from you over here. >> yes and no play let's be very clear for decades we have seen problems with the fbi. let's go back to the wiretapping of martin luther king to the facfaculty in the wiretap amerin citizens today whether it be the case that katy mentioned her folks are protesting for black lives matter. we've seen the fbi engage in behavior that most americans in matter what had t the protocol t on raise an eyebrow to pray the question becomes is kash patel the right person to clean this up in a world in which we've heard him say things like the 2020 election results were not sure et cetera et cetera et cetera. this'll be the job of the night

state senate understanding for many, many years the fbi director's served 10 years because the whole deal is the political officer betty at the nonpolitical office of the fbi should be said that that is apolitical the question now the past two directors of both be awarded by trump of many americans questioning many senators questioning is the fbi now i political or are they apolitical that's a question. >> wasn't president trump trump chosen christopher what he's going to have to go if change is going to take this job he is into a 10 year term is a do think rate resigns or trump fires him question. >> i believe ray has already said is going to be leaving at the end of the vita ministrations of the dust trump will be able to potentially get his guy. if he does not leave if it's a potential president trump can fire him and then appoint kash patel fortuna days in a find someone else. >> is many senate battles to come we will all be here for front and center. thank you guys. with the next descendent lights,

camera, innovation how artificial intelligence is writing itself into the story next. >> they really look forward to that future were somebody does not have to move to l.a. and meet a producer and get a budget and get their film made. because of this some kid from indiana will tell their story easier.

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shannon: well, a.i. not only looks right out of the movie, it's also influencing how films are written, produced and released. claudia i cowan reports on its impact on the big screen. >> reporter: from whiz-bang special effects to helping movie studios optimize release dates, artificial intelligence is disrupting the film industry. >> it's putting more time and money back in the hands of the creators by automating the stuff that is very much part of the manufacturing aspect of production and post-production. >> action heroes aging backwards in the new indiana jones movie and soon, a.i.-enable ad scent emissions linked to audio cues

promise to make movies more immersive. >> oh, that's the ocean. i smell the ocean. >> reporter: but real world concerns about keep fakes and digital doubles without consent have turned a.i. into a bombshell issue. >> the possibility for exploitation both for members performing with their voice and their movement or in some cases all three, voice, face and movement. >> reporter: both sides made progress toward addressing the use of generative a.i. on screen, but if scripts are one with day written by large language models, oscar-nominated screen writer billy ray argues movies will suffer. >> what you're going to find as a consumer is that everything will get worse, and the kind of stories we tell will be limited. and the human experience welcome back compromised. and that's what movies are for. >> reporter: some film makers are launching their own a.i. models. visual effects expert -- cofounded wonder dynamics,

software that can benefit filmmakers with no funding or studio connections. >> some kid from indiana will be able to tell hair story easier. so i don't think long-term we'll see better effects and more opportunities. >> reporter: anyone with a browser now has access to a.i.-generated cg characters for a fraction of the time and money it would normally take. and he's something else to consider, a.i. today is the worst it will ever be, leaving many eager to embrace the potential blockbuster benefits. others worry without sufficient guardrails a.i. could lead to a tragic hollywood ending. shannon? shannon: all right. thank you to claudia cowan, reporting there. by the way, if you haven't seen it yet, be sure to check out fox nation's hit series martin scorsese presents "the saints." the third episode focuses on the life of sebastian who worked to convert roman elites to christianity and became a martyr for his faith. scorsese explains how he i drew inspiration for the series from

the saints' lives. >> i think it started with people just telling stories of men and women who did extraordinary things, were extraordinary people, who stood up to injustices and cruelty and risked their lives to help other people. shannon: martin scorsese presents "the saints" is available on fox nation, there are new episodes every sunday through december 8th. and by the way, don't miss if "fox news sunday," we'll be doing our sate of defense special, discussing the issues facing the country and the world as a new trump administration prepares to take over. i'll be reporting from the reagan national defense forum in simi valley, california. that is it for us today. thank you for joining us. i'm shannon bream. have a blessed week. we'll see you next "fox news sunday." ♪ ♪